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• Makeup tutorials : http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels:http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels:http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Reducing Muscle http://www.trans-health.com/2001/lose-muscle-gain-fat-dieting-for-mtfs/
• Size charts:http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• Transition time lines:http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training:https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg

Previous thread - >>8337948
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found a pic of seiryu posting on /mtfg/
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>>8339260
>u could OD and die
Sounds perfect
>>8339262
>implying I pay cash for it
>>8339275
I told you so
it depends on your baseline levels. spironolactone is the weakest anti androgen so start with that. Get a blood test in a few months, if testosterone is high up dose or switch to cyproterone acetate. Estrofem and progynova it's a matter of personal choice they both do the same thing. I personally prefer estrofem but progynova is cheaper. browse /HRTgen/ here or r/transDIY/ over on redditif youw ant to know more
Good luck!
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>tfw new episodes of a children's cartoon gives me life
S O O N
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Who all has had electrolysis? How much did you pay?
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>>8339296
I wish I was that pretty.
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>>8339310
I pay $95 for an hour session once a month
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>>8339300
incorrect.
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>>8339295
I mean the same could be said of any genre of electronic really like half of oldskool jungle was just the amen break
The drums are about the most 'boring' part of a track at least imo moreso for anything four to the floor
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>>8339284
Since it's a new thread, I might as well post the question here, even though >>8339298 is making a good sell for HRT.

Does anyone know anything about pueraria mirifica, whether it grows titties after 3 months or is just snake oil. I've been informed in this thread that I should do HRT even though I just wanna trap a bit, but if anyone has an academic study, or at the very least, a detailed journal log somewhere they know of, I'd appreciate info on long-term usage.
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>>8339310
it's like 70 a hour, it takes a ton of sessions too :(
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>obamas mother had that jaw and chin
So cishons are a thing i guess.
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>>8339313
正しくない
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>>8339312

For just upper lip and chin area?

>>8339321

I have a couple blonde hairs and I don't really have a giant pile of money to spend immediately.
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>>8339325
did u just get that from reddit

and there was this girl at my high school. she had a really big man chin it was gross, but she somehow still had a bf
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>>8339319
Thats true but i dont listen to a lot of jungle desu. In fact i dont even remember the last time i listened to dnb that used drum samples.

But im probably just biased against house because i saw it nekkid. The song u linked was actually pretty gud

>>8339330
>did u just get that from reddit
YES
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>>8339325
>Insulting the mother of His Supreme Exalted Sublime Grand Holiness Lord God Obama
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>>8339327
>For just upper lip and chin area?
no its whole face
we only get a small area done per session though because I have a lot of facial hair and almost none of it went with laser
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>>8339333
Do you listen to Masters at Work? You gotta at least like them.
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>>8339326
this is an english speaking board you Mongolian cunt
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>>8339333
i'd call u a normie but i was just looking at that post. people were making chin jokes god
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>tfw getting my hair done
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>>8339326
meat is tasty
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>>8339338
Iv heard of them but i dont think i can recall any tracks by them. do you have any suggestions?

>>8339341
I cant be a normie i dont have normiebook
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>Zna and Grace both stop posting
GRACE IS IN TROUUUUUBLE. again
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>>8339327
it takes a very long amount of time, I started going like 6-7 months ago and just now am I get lil clear areas more and more, and that's with going frequently....
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>>8339339
でも!これが日本のアニメのイメジボードのサイト
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>>8339350
Trying to figure out my own emotions before really acting, honestly.
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>>8339345
>I cant be a normie i dont have normiebook
>mfw
>>8339344
taste my meat then homo
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>>8339355
I'm the guy. For what it's worth, I wasn't intending on actually ERPing, nor did that happen. I just find that fantasy hot from her perspective s-so I thought it would be fun to type up some fantasies. We didn't do anything, and, even though it's none of my business, I'm sorry. Please don't hate grace. She's a good girl.
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>>8339357
*bit*
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who wants to have some multiplayer fun
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boy with boobs
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>>8339350
i just thought it would be a priority to talk to zna directly
and im also talking to the anon about some unrelated stuff
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>>8339355
*hugs*
>>8339357
>>I cant be a normie i dont have normiebook
>>mfw
Im pretty sure its a prerequisite of being a normie. Do you know a single one without it?
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>>8339352
bUt tHiS iS tHe siTE oF jaPaNeSe aNimaTion iMagEboArd
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>>8339362
>he types this up as grace is sending him nudes
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>>8339333
Idk, I'm pretty strongly biased towards it just because it's about the most danceable form of electronic music and is pretty amazing when it's done right.

Nothing can top a good house bassline for getting your foot tapping, at least i m h o
More cuz I was a tard and opened up my house collection when I should be replying to emails
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii7kP_mHOmk
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>>8339365
me
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>>8339355
you had better spank her
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>>8339365
I'm interested. How do I become such a thing?
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>>8339343
Nice :3
>>8339364
W-what is that for
>>8339365
Ur a girl with boobs
I'm the boy with boobs
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>>8339369
ill piss on u where do ulive. don't be using google translate; i can tell'
>>8339367
no ig
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>>8339343
It was super fun at my last cut. I went in for a dye and my first girl cut at a salon school and I had two students working on the dye while the instructor would occasionally walk past all excited almost singing, "It's transformation day!" Everyone that wandered nearby seemed pretty excited about it. Really strange feeling getting that much attention!
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>>8339371
Foot tapping? Punk and metal do that better for me. Fuck, even some baroque pieces do.
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>>8339369
What would a month or two of light estrogen would do to a male body that doesn't have much testosterone to begin with?
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>>8339371
>danceable form of electronic music and is pretty amazing when it's done right.
That is true. I remember the most fun i had dancing at raves was to electro house.
>when I should be replying to email
Im sorry i didnt mean to bother you if you have important things to do.

Also the synth in this song is sickkkkk
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>>8339345
Here's a selection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfRJhmC-G1Y
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>>8339381
>>8339343
does it help a lot? kinda on the edge of doing anything to mine
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>>8339378
it's just a shower curtain ring that easily slides
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>>8339373
>>8339378
u r girl with bobb
>>8339376
my bro brad took these pills, he stopped taking the pills but the boobs stayed on and he had the face of a fucking chick and acted totally gay
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>>8339386
Yes, hair is huge and it can completely transform your face.
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I have a question anons

I've been transitioning for..well, years now, and I pretty much assumed I'd be forever a hon and was resigned to my fate. I tried to dress sort of unisex, slowly grew my hair out, and all that, don't let it be said I didn't try, right?
But lately people started to "misgender" me a lot. Calling me miss and all that. And I always feel super conflicted because on the one hand I'm overjoyed, on the other hand how do you even tell someone that "Umm, I appreciate it, you're very nice, but I'm still in boymode?" so I usually just went with it, and didn't correct people.

Anyway. I think this might be a sign that I might not be a total hon. Frankly, it scares the shit out of me. How do you make that jump from "wait, is that thing a boy or a girl" to being a woman? I kinda wanted it to be gradual, because my family is really transphobic, and it's very likely I'll get kicked out if they find out the truth.
Also I'm terrified because what if I dress up in women's clothes and 5 out of 10 people think i'm just a dude in a skirt?! I'd die of embarrassment. I guess what I'm trying to say is; how do you know you're ready?
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>>8339393
How does one acquire such 'pills'
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>>8339378
>>8339381
ill take pics after :3 here is the before
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I miss her so much and she won't even look at or speak to me
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>>8339394
I kind alike how it looks now but I think having a actual feminine cut instead of grown out boy cut would be a good idea
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>>8339385
>boiler room sets
ayyyyyy. Have you ever been to one? Also this is pretty good
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>>8339384
Oh no you aren't bothering me, this is a mistake of my own doing and down to me just not listening to enough music when depressed

>the synth
unffff right?
just makes me wish I was being smacked with it by a bass bin
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>>8339320
Pm is real but you need real estrogen if you can get it
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>>8339386
yes it's a massive difference

>>8339393
i look like a boy tho
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>>8339399
by following your heart
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a bad thing bout talking to someone i know through the internet that knows i'm trans, and then if we discuss like a hypothetical situation where they would be in person, there would be the whether or not to use male or female pronouns in the hypothetical conversation
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>>8339405
Nope, can't find where they're advertised, I really want to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ili8uNNrwpg
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>>8339398
It gets worse every year you're on estrogen

Good luck, only way to really do it is to live full time
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>>8339398
well rn you're failing boymode so that's a good sign that you look like a girl to people. I say when you fail boymode and have a passable voice you're ready to start gradually dressing more fem

girl underwear
bra
girl shoes and pants

thats a good start
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-0H2vc8sF8
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>>8339414
why did you detransition anyway?
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>>8339416
Over a year HRT and my boymode is still rock solid.
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>>8339407
Mildly concerned it'll fuck me up for life.
Also, how long it'll take as well.
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>>8339406
>ywn drop acid and listen to good music with lanna
life is suffering

>just not listening to enough music when depressed
Do you feel any better in the last couple of days? Im going to assume you have feel atleast a little better after finally getting accepted <3
Also holy shit im blonde as fuck for going to school for audio and not knowing the difference betwen a subwoofer and a bass bin. Its a good thing i dropped out.

>>8339415
Do it . Il never forgive you if you live in london and dont go to one.
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>>8339393
herro r dis mave?

this am of the bean and little man

hru?
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>>8339424
it'll slowly turn you into a girl how long it takes depends on you
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>>8339421
i never did transition. I only turned 18 a few months ago.
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>>8339428
d-d-d-d-d-did some one say......

.

.

L O N D O N
O
N
D
O
D
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>>8339431
hey faggot is this trip the original avatarfag that like talked to me about wizards and such?

greenpill?

yes?
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>>8339430
Well I'm low T, but not so low I've been recommended supplements. I just want some small titties for cosplaying.
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>>8339428
How do I get a ticket????
>>8339432
Yay! Another London trip!
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>>8339432
are you a muzzie
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Can one of you trannies teach me how to buy Bitcoins? I want cheap cigarettes.
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gf's getting on 500 spiro and getting girl injections instead of the blue pills.

is it like a lot different?

she's on 200 spiro and peeing a lot already.

thinking of like buying her a water bottle for me to carry around but how do yall deal with the constant peeing or just pay ur way through?
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>>8339434
nope, I don't think so, at least.

I've been to /lgbt/ in the past, actually got banned for 2 years because I was dumb enough to post my age when I was 16, but I've only browsed /mtfg/ recently, as in a month or so.
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>>8339437
>! Another London trip!
No im pretty sure hes talking about the
L O N DO N
O
N
D
O
N
meme. What most ppl dont know is it was about a girl from london ontario tho.

https://boilerroom.tv/upcoming/
Request an invite.
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>>8339423
Took me three years to start being found out, four to be "you weren't born a man"
>>8339424
It kinda will not going to sugar coat it for you
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>>8339437
still beanboy
shhhh...

they're watching you.....
>>8339440
no.....

haven't heard this one hit me anon

hit me hard

uuuuuuuu make it hurt bb
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>>8339441
i used to use coinbase but alines was saying something about how gemini is better
>>8339442
500 is a lot..
>>8339429
hi little bean man
i'm bored
hbu
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>>8339442
She is going to give herself irrepairable kidney and or liver damage.
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>>8339428
RIP
And you even missed the window on hitting up festivals with me too, I'm basically done with being a drugged up degenerate now. Also that's totally fair not knowing what a bass bin is if you're doing like studio engineering, I think the only people that care about bass bins are people that do sound reinforcement and the e-tards that spend the night grinding on them

Also, I'll let Katrina and the Waves say how I'm feeling for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPUmE-tne5U
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>>8339448
See, that's basically why I'm so damn resistant to this. I figured I'd try PM to get titties, and post a 3 month blog/diary or whatever if I can't find a study since apparently that's how long it'll take anyway, but I'm not gonna fuck up my body for the sake of some cosplay tits and possibly softer skin.

If PM will work for low test boy, it's something people like me might wanna know. I'll grab a cheap packet/bottle or whatever, and then update in a month, and then in 3 months.
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>>8339445
AND IT WAS STARTED ON /fit/ YES WE ARE ALL WELL AWARE DO YOU THINK WE'RE NEWFAGS OR SOMETHING HUH MISTER DO YOU???

MISS????
>>8339448
hi faye......

let's fck plz

:(
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>>8339453
>i used to use coinbase but alines was saying something about how gemini is better
I heard that my bank hates Bitcoins so they block purchases or something so I was wondering if maybe one of you will buy me some if I buy you Steam games or something.
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>>8339431
oh for some reason I was thinking you were on hrt for a while then stopped. ate you tran or repressing?

>>8339436
then take hrt for a while and you'll grow some pre teen tits and get softer skin and look about 10 years younger

cosplay was the one of the reasons i started hrt too so gl anon. these sites all have hrt for relatively cheap

alldaychemist
inhousepharmacy

>>8339442
what the fuck. no don't go past 200mg that's already alot by itself. more isn't better at all with this shit and she'll just kill herself by doing that. too much Spiro damages your kidney and liver
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>>8339445
Interesting I didn't know that. Fucking Canadians memed my city.
>Request invite
Kk thanks.
Do you want more house? I have loads.
>>8339448
I'm a masc af black guy no-one will ever notice anything trust me.
>>8339451
Are you on meth?
>>8339456
>tfw just started being a drugged up degenerate
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>>8339453
alive wew

wew lass i said

WEW

.

ok 500 is a lot but what does it do nigga what does it doooo????
>>8339454
really???

i'll talk 2 here about this

like drink A LOT of water right?

like fuck tons?????

and easy on the liqour cuz she trusts me and likes me so much she feels safe enough to enjoy being drunk in a long time boo.

drink FUCK TONS of water correct??

i need you on this one /mtfg/
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Here it is.
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>>8339442
>500mg spiro
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You can take up to 400mg of spironolactone daily. However past 200mg it'll take a significant toll on the quality of your life. I'm on 300mg and it's necessary to keep my T down but I drink like 6+ liters of water a day and run to the bathroom every 15 minutes. Forget enjoying movies or drives or being able to work efficiently or sleeping more than 3 hours at a time.
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>>8339462
i may try to start hrt in august when i start college, because my college's student health care covers HRT. But Im not too sure about actually doing HRT. I mean, I'm repressing a little, but not much. i don't do really any girlie stuff because i'm repressing
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>>8339468
500 does nothing at all and just harms your body
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>>8339473
who is this
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>>8339462
What were the side effects? And what did you take?
I really need some more information before I start doing this shit.
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I'd like to extend a thank you for all your inclusivity pandering.

Sims added custom gender options and the ability to cross dress so I've been getting off to turning traps into muscle men then getting then pregnant by other men. Thanks progressives!
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>>8339485
Yasmina, a black woman.
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>>8339456
>I'm basically done with being a drugged up degenerate now
Oh me too it was mostly a joke. I stopped using when i got on hormones and i didnt need to escape reality anymore.

Im glad that you feel better, you really deserve to be happy you did it! You are going to be ms smart scientist lady.

Oh idk if i ever told you but my grandma used to be a scientist for the gooberment. I cant remember exactly what field but theres like pages and pages of her published journals still sitting around this house but i feel weird going through a dead persons belongings.

>>8339460
>YES WE ARE ALL WELL AWARE
nah u thought it was london england dont lie to me. I bet you dont even remember crescent fresh ;)

>>8339467
>Do you want more house? I have loads.
yes actually i should probably get up and go listen to all this music you and elanna linked me on my real speakers instead of the shitty macbook ones.

>>8339487
>o turning traps into muscle men then getting then pregnant by other men.
Wha?
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>>8339485
Shakira or mercury.
But pretty sure it's shakira
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>>8339462
ok then why the fuck did her doctor tell her to do it im gonna have to have a somewhat stern talking with him >:(
>>8339467
NO

FUCK NO I'M JUST LIKE THIS BITCH

i'm srs not though fuck that drug fuck people fuck people who come here looking for it
stupid white bitch from Seattle asking me if i can sell her some ganja for 3.50$ bitch fuck you yes im brown fuck you no i'm never gonna sell you meth or knownly refer you anywhere or to anyone who might know fuck that fuck you

NO OFFICER NO!

like if it was a big joke

like if i don't know these stupid shitposts aren't being read by

lalalalalalala

wew.......

idk....
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>>8339481
well the cool thing is that you can try out hrt for a little while (about 6ish months) to get a feel for it and see how you like it

if you decide to stop it won't have any lasting harm so it's worth a shot
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>>8339477
>>8339483
kay we'll like talk
>>8339493
shut up

stop bullying me wtf

I NEED AN ADULT

i read that it was Seattle or something though

fucking wizard shoo!
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>>8339473
>>8339495
>Shakira passes they say
>See this
I hate this hugboxxing hellhole.
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>>8339497
my biggest worry is how long I'd really be able to take HRT. 20 years? I don't even know what it'd be like taking it for that long,
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does genital based dysphoria ever improve from hrt?
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>>8339487
Screenshots or it didn't happen.
>>8339497
I'm actually interested, because it seems like it's gonna be more effective than PM, but I'd like to know what you were using, and how much it affected a) titties, b) mood and c) face.
I'm heading into like, my final year of university as well, and I can't afford to have some kind of psychotic break.
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>>8339507
:)

yet.

yet anon.

yet.

yet here you are...

(:

:^)
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>>8339486
i took progynova (estrogen) and Spironolactone. the side effects aren't much just pee a bit more often and you'll be mood swingy at first

like I was telling the other anon the cool thing is that if you don't like it you can quit down the line and everything reverses

hrt changes you so slowly that you can take it on secret for up to like 4 years while dressing like a guy and no one will really notice
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>>8339507
for a nigger she passes pretty well
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>>8339493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3vrhoFW-cg
>>8339507
Who said that's me?
Who said I pass?
I'm a 220 lb 6'0 black man.
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>>8339517
>up to 4 years
People already noticed and called me out at 1 year before.
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>>8339511
depends if it getting smaller helps with your dysphoria i guess. for some people it does others no
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>>8339507
Better then Korra
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>>8339524
You know what I am going to say...
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>>8339511
Mine did but i already told you that xD
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>>8339527
I get upset just knowing it's there
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>>8339496
because clearly he's fucking retarded and can't be trusted with basic shit like this. in astonished he said something so dumb

>>8339509
ehh don't worry about that stuff in 20 years you'll be alot better. plus if you get orchi you don't revert back to being a guy cuz no test

>>8339514
spironolactone (anti androgen) and progynova (estrogen)

a. they started off as tiny little pre teen mosquitoe bites that grew very slowly into okayish sized boobs

b. mood stayed about the same with some low points here and there but that was related to rl stress and not the pills themselves

c. pic related for face. pre hrt vs now ( it's about 5 months out of date now)
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>>8339528
true
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>>8339524
your milage will vary
>>
It's ok
I understand
I know you don't mean it
I know I'm stupid sometimes
It was my fault
No, I shouldn't have made you angry
I know you love me
Please, hold me

idk
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>>8339530
I hope it happens to me :(
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>>8339517
Fair enough. What was the change like in say, 2-3 months? I guess after six you'd be looking at something like >>8339536, but I'm fairly femmy already.
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>>8339493
Heh, if only I'd been smart enough to quit using after getting on hormones

That's cool af though, how long ago was she active as a scientist?
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Sup "girls"
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>>8339536
ewwwie what if i actually look like a girl or somewhat if I take hrt for a while wtf too spooky for me
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>>8339529
Just because people say I look like a girl doesn't mean I look like a girl

also this was 6 years ago
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>>8339551
>how long ago was she active as a scientist
I would have to ask my mom but AFAIK she was a scientist from the 80s until like 2002. Come to think of it we took all of that stuff to the other house to sell it so i dont think anyhting is left.

Il text my mom and ask her more about it tho. She was a crazy fucking loony bin with no empathy for anyone but she was smart as fuck. A true autist.
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psst.... science is gay.. don't tell elanna i said that tho..
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>>8339507
no way in hell would she pass as a white or asian girl. She's lucky she's black.
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>>8339563
>>8339551

Im blonde, i meant we took her stuff to the other house so we could sell this house. Not that we are selling her journals or something T_T
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>>8339517
Actually, what dosage of spironolactone and how much a day should I take? The Progynova 2 mg seems straightforwards, either once every 12 hours or once a day.
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>>8339528
You may hate korra but don't lie in that way.
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>>8339550
2-3 months wasn't anything at all except for feeling the preliminary boob growth body scent changed and my skin was softer. if you're already femme then it'll be harder to place the changes since it's similar to your already existing look

>>8339557
o-oh do i look bad or something? ;~;
and hrt will make you look more girly yeah but to make a convincing girl the rest of the work is on you and how you present and its quality
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>>8339514
He's gonna breed lots musclemen full of babies
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I said hi
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>>8339565
WHAT THE FUCK NO SCIENCE IS STRAIGHT
>>8339563
A true scientist
>tfw too neurotypical to be successful
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>>8339578
oh no, you don't look bad; you look good. I was just saying ewwie about if i looked like a girl because it would be so weird. It was kind of in contrast of your pictures of hrt making you look like a girl
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>>8339588
>WHAT THE FUCK NO SCIENCE IS STRAIGHT
>!GAYFER.0Fc
hmmm
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>None of the black trips pass
KEK
Ur glad you aren't a nigger, aren't you?
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>>8339595
they pass as negresses
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>>8339574
200 is the standard dose but I would start off at 100 and ramp it up over the weeks. just like e take it 12 hours apart ideally the second dose right before bed since it makes you sleepy

>>8339591
what's wrong with looking like a girl? I guess it's a big changed from now and to tell the truth it was shocking to me at first too but once I. got used to it the whole being a girl thing felt way more natural than pretending to be a douchebag guy
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>>8339600
>big change
this is why desu. And it seems just unfathomable and weird.
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>>8339595
Mercury passes.
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>>8339588
>>tfw too neurotypical to be successful
Its not so bad she didnt have any freinds and her entire family hated her. She died a sad bitter lonely old woman that everyone was glad to see go because of how miserable she made everyone she interacted with. Except my mom because she has stockholme syndrome >.<

Meanwhile you would win a popularity contest on here any day.
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>>8339600
>ideally the second dose right before bed
then u just have to get up a bunch to go pee lol
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So uhhh nooones going to say hi to me?
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>None of the Asian trips pass
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>>8339612
You are the only Asian trip lmao.
Oh yeah there's Hips
She doesn't pass.
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>>8339612
Tanya passes desu
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>>8339607
>ywn be the popular girl in /mtfg/ high
>tfw you are the fat girl who eats her lunch in the toilets
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2 months ago.
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>>8339611
Hey
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>>8339603
yeah it's something big to wrap your head around at first like dude I'm gonna be a fucking girl like whatttttt but after doing it for months and months it feels no longer alien and totally mundane and normal.

>>8339609
i never had to wake up and pee desu
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>>8339619
2 minutes ago
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>>8339612
maybe current but ren used to trip here
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>>8339625
Why won't you grow your hair? You made a lot of progress
>>8339626
Ho do we even compete with this?
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>>8339625
I think you need to ditch the beanie, it gives you kinda a dudebroguy look when the rest of you is totally feminine. The hair could get longer too.
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>>8339609
...I've been having problems with having to pee all the time for a while now.
> the possibility that someone's been microdosing me with spironolactone is now something I have to think about.
>>8339619
>>8339625
Gotta admit I don't see a difference that can't be explained by hair and clothing.
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Oh are we posting selfies?
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>>8339631
yeah ive been crushing it into your food when you weren't looking
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>>8339628
you don't compete, you sit there and cry

yay
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>>8339628
I do grow my hair. It's just curly.

Lemme straighten it real quick.

>>8339631
awesome, I guess? photo quality and lighting are v different too

>>8339630
I use it to keep my hair in one place ._.
I need a brow shave - it's such a shame because my hairline is great.
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>>8339635
I'm just gonna pretend she's cis and keep on truckin'
>>8339636
Oh same problem as me then
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>>8339628
just console yourself with the fact that you haven't done porn or reality tv so there is still maybe a chance for you to live without every single person who knows you knowing you're trans
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>>8339607
Yeah but I bet she was a damn good scientist, all the really good ones are bitter and angry and quirky

I can't be a good scientist if I like people and/or they like me that's just not possible
>>8339593
I'm straight therefore science is straight!
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>>8339638
True, true.
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>>8339636
Maybe try a hairband or something instead? That beanie look is something I've seen on so many stoner guys that it just screams dude to me.
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>>8339640
>I'm straight
its okay to be bi senpai
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>>8339640
>I'm straight
You would turn gay for a tall confident trans girl who topped you in a heartbeat dont lie you lesbo.
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>>8339606
>never posts a pic
>hasn't been seen irl
>complains of being an ugly hon
>6 feet 5 inches tall
""Ok"""
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>>8339646
oh.

I'll think about it, I kinda like my beanie though :(

do you think a diff color would be ok?
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>>8339654
basically me
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>>8339654
She's posted pics here before and cams. She's 6'0" . And plenty trips have seen her IRL
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Beep boop beep! I'm a robo! How is everyone tonight? :)
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>>8339649
No it not
You know why?
It's not ok to be elanna

>>8339651
I mean ime she doesn't even have to be tall
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>>8339635
I'd honestly believe that I'm lowkey being exposed to it from the ice coffees I drink.
>>8339636
I meant you're looking cute, in a fem way, just not that different. Is that from when you started HRT and now?
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>>8339661
>I mean ime she doesn't even have to be tall
I knew it you're a bisloot who lusts for girldick
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>>8339655
Maybe like a girly pastel color. I still think the beanie is a bad idea though, but maybe it's just me.
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gibe me a good book to read for the night
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>>8339680
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulliver%27s_Travels
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>>8339680
red mars
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>>8339673
I've been pretty forthcoming about being pretty ok with the girldick
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>>8339686
I know lol im just teasing you. How was your pizza btw.
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hello can I please have some (you)s?
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>>8339670
no, I started a year ago. I was on too low of a spiro dose before though.

>>8339675
I feel like I could pull off a soft blue desu
>>
I'm going to bed, night everyone!
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>>8339695
Dang those ARE boobies. That's even bigger than what I'm going for here. How'd you get that big on spiro? Will getting a lower dose have them grow a little slower so I don't overshoot?
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>>8339695
pretty cute desu senpai
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>>8339694
Soulja boy, tell 'em
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>>8339689
It was breddy gud
Needed more spaghet desu
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>>8339694
Hey korra! How are you? :D
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>>8339695
I disagree with her I think you look a lot more female than before. Breasts are bigger too. Yet again I see HRT working great on someone else yet did absolutely nothing to me, this sucks.
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>power goes out in the middle of a competitive dota match where i am holding up the whole team

Great I am going to come back to abandon penalty and a loss reeee
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>>8339625
thicc dicc succin lips
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>>8339699
my mom was a 34D - I've been on 6 mg E for about 11 months.

>>8339700
<3 tyty
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>>8339702
thank (you)

>>8339706
heya qt spicy. im ok just getting my hair washed and flat ironed. you?
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>>8339704
>ywn give her an extremely sarcastic look irl as she covers her pizza in spaghetti
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>bf fugged me
>took a nap in his arms
>he hand fed me gourmet bbq pizza
Now this is pod racing
>>
Why didn't HRT work on me? All my blood tests said my E levels were female range. Am I estrogen insensitive?
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>>8339718
I am doing good :) Just waiting for a friend to finish eating so we can dark souls together. How long does it take to iron your hair?
>>
there's no reason to keep going really
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>>8339727
you're just ugly/unpassable. some people are ugly no matter what, male or female.
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>>8339727
Could be estrone oversaturation
>>8339718
Do you have a discord?
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anyone else have the excessive need to be alone all the time but feel like shit being starved of human affection
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>>8339731
How do I fix this
>>8339730
Oh well there's always FFS.
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>>8339659
>>8339659
can anyone substantiate THESE CLAIMS?
>>8339659
>>8339659
>>8339659
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>tfw raise
Aww yiss
mebee I don't need to quit now
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>>8339738
she anon selfposts too
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>>8339737
FFS doesn't make you pretty, it makes you more female. you look like an ugly female, and ugly females look like men. FFS wont help you; you'll still be ugly and fat. Just accept your fate.
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>tfw finally bought a pair of meme shoes
Converse are p comfy, went with blue instead of red
Also apparently I'm only a women's size 14, I thought I was a 15
>>8339733
Welcome to my life
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>>8339733
yes
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>>8339738
basically just stop being a newfriend and go back in time to when she used to go on tinychat all the time
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boys smell gross

>>8339742
ambiance i thought you were leaving >:C
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Bf bf bf bf bf bf
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>>8339727
>Why didn't HRT work on me?
You need to give it more time and cycle your weight down and up again.
>Am I estrogen insensitive?
Highly unlikely; it's extremely rare.
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>>8339728
oh nice that sounds fun! it depends i always let my hair dresser do it xP

>>8339731
no but i might download it since a lot of ppl ask me to get it.
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My power is out and probably wont be up for the rest of the night

I already slept

Wtf am I supposed to do
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>>8339746
I've been here a year, I'm not new.
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>>8339737
Getting on another form of estrogen
>>8339751
Did you drop trip or something? o_o
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>>8339747
I decided against it
Figured out it's stuff in my life that makes me miserable and not this place. I'm actually numb to the sadness on here through a decade of wasting my time on 4chan.
Plus it's just too hard to stay away
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>>8339755
korra is a known tripdropper
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>>8339528

Faye I need you to fuck me plz
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>>8339753
read a book
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>>8339680
Mein Kampf
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>>8339759
bad
BAD
if you keep this up i'm going to rescind your breathing privileges!!!
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>>8339753
get turnt
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>>8339763
No lights..
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>>8339753
seek moonlight pinhead
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>>8339713
>my mom was a 34D - I've been on 6 mg E for about 11 months.
Okay, so 6 makes a really noticeable difference? When you were on less, what was that like?
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Gib (you)s plox
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>>8339764
i knew someone would say this god. i surprisingly have it on my phone somehow
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>>8339768
oh. any candles?
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>>8339772

boybutt/10
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>>8339759
Yay ambi is staying with us :D
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>>8339772
nice butt
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>>8339772
your bf banned you from srs
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>>8339772

I'd tap that.
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>>8339770
I had a sex drive
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>>8339772
Cool pic but I hate those kind of underwears :( They ride up your buttcrack :( That's uncomfortable
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>>8339780
It's breddy gud, not gonna lie.
10/10 ass, would recommend.

The pictures really don't do it justice.
I am a poor photographer, and her camera phone a shit
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>>8339747
>boys smell gross
why do you keep lying to yourself?
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>>8339783
Lol baby why u gotta stalk me?
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c-can I have some (you)s too pls?
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>>8339772
My but
>>
hello you amazing ladyboys(women)
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>>8339784
i just had to spend like two hours sitting next to a smelly guy playing BL2
i have literally never smelled him not smelling gross

>>8339787
hi sheen
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>>8339788
great lighting lovely picture
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>>8339765
Not my precious breathing D:
>>8339776
Yep :D
>>8339787
(You) :3
>>
Is there anything to do outside at 10:30 pm or what
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>>8339786
Because you aren't in my bed anymore : /

Your fault, desu

>>8339787
Here is one, but it's from a filthy biscum chaser so it barely counts
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>>8339783
>>8339786
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>>8339790
>>8339792
>>8339795
arigato gozaimasu
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>>8339787
hi sheeen!
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>>8339794
You can smoke cigarettes, jog or go to Walmart
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>>8339787
(You) hello Shannon
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>>8339800
My power literally just came back on wew
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>>8339799
>>8339801
t-thank
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>>8339795
>Your fault, desu
But u had to drop that tool off, i don't get ready till 9:30
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>>8339798
Also not to sound dick or nothing but I used to he type 2 obese before I cut ~90lb, so hmu for weight loss tips
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>>8339772
would smack/10
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>>8339804
You and your semantics.
I can't be bogged down with all these "facts" and "accurate accountings of what happened"

You aren't here right now, ipso facto I am stalking you
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>>8339792
you'd better leave right this instance >:C
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>>8339755
whoops I was posting on another board and forgot I need to put it back here lol
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>>8339787
>>8339787
>>8339787
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>>8339810
I wanna be in ur arms so bad, sorry i slept for hours, you make me feel so safe and protected

Thank you thank you thank you for mod pizza, should have listened to you earlier about them
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>>8339789
heyp. how was work?
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>>8339789
hey, don't call me amazing
>>
I'm so happy for kayla, our little girl is growing up
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>>8339818
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>>8339805
>so hmu for weight loss tips
post what you got
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Tfw tranny
Tfw 5 months on hormones
Tfw no boobs
Tfw pic related
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>>8339827
I'm stealing your pictures btw >:)
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>>8339812
B-but I wanna be here now
>>8339826
Same
Happy she's got stability in her life
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I'm really unsure if I should start using make up.
It will either help me pass
or I'll look like a guy with make up

what do you think, /mtfg/?
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>>>/r9k/37254259

>>>/r9k/37254402
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>>8339832
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>>8339781
And see this is the sort of thing that makes me immediately remember why I shouldn't go HRT just to crossplay better. It's clearly something that actually ruins your fucking life.
>>
>>8339830
you have to eat to get boobs
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i dont like being an ugly freak so why am i doing this what's the purpose of actually going forward with transitioning over kmsing myself
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>>8339830
>Tfw no boobs
same
>>
i feel like i'm a slightly more stable (and significantly more leftist) version of red
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>>8339844
>killing myselfing myself
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>>8339845
...
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>>8339841
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>>8339845
you're really shit at compliment fishing, like it just seems scummy
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>>8339853
it was a joke i dont care about compliments
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>>8339851
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>>8339851
her eyebrows should be forks too
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>>8339843
[Citation needed]
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Wanna get big? Eat more
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>>8339849
ThatsTheJoke.JpegPhotographicExpertsGroup
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>>8339851
there should be forks between her fingers like wolverine
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>>8339853
She ain't the sharpest bulb in the shed, but I think it was purposefully silly.
>>
>>8339741
>ugly females look like men
Examples?
>>
>>8339855
okei I won't steal em
>>
>>8339829
Well If you want me to go into detail, it would probably make more sense to talk in a more private setting so as not to de-rail the thread, but I'll try to tl;dr:
>food scale - can't track calories without a scale, spend 2 weeks or so only eating food after it has been weighed and calories tracked.
>water, water, and more water - seltzer water is great.
>intermittent fasting. 16/8 worked for me
>all the fiber, all the micronutrients
>35/35/30 p/c/f
>focus more on NEPA than exercise
>use anaerobic exercise to increase TDEE when not exercising (so called "afterburn" effect)
>actually fucking track your calories if you stop gettig results

Fatties like you (and formerly me) have a high energy availability and are not nearly as catabolic given an isocaloric deficit as someone leaner.

for this reason I recommend startingg with a rapid fat loss protocol (maybe even psmf) before worrying about the -500kcal pound a week nonsense

I was doing my best crash dieting at .8lb a day for a good 2 months. The fast results keep you motivated

Since getting lean, cutting slowly had been more difficult than any other weight loss I have tried
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>>8339863
>implying he is natty
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>>8339864
tfw too stupid to understand jokes
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>>8339867
I didn't make the picture, that one has the most forks
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>>8339842
yeah, no, it has a lot more to do with your life than with your appearance imo. I personally would love to never feel the need to masturbate ever again, and I never fit in as a normal guy (even with gay guys).
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>>8339858
source: even boys who eat too much get boobies
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>>8339838
okay vv
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>>8339883
Ah, I see.
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>>8339875
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mN9Df3O9mOI
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>>8339856
idk how to photoshop :\
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>>8339886
you need yummies in your tummy wummy
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>>8339883
Well that would be fat yes but theres also breast tissue you can only get from high estrogen/prog that gives your boobs its shape.
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>>8339891
>>>CONETITS
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>>8339876
>implying the wealthy harpsichord is a roider

He just pretends to take massive doses of roids to make us feel less insecure about his massthetics..

He really is that much of a bro.

You could get this big too if you took enough scoops
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>>8339886
wtf? how did you get muscly arms and still skelly mode?

>>8339875
when are you going to post both your guns for all of us to see?
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>>8339892
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1l5CaS4INjt
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>>8339888
just tell them "more forks" c:<

(also you never answered me on discord :c)
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>need to lose weight
>have to eat more to get boobs
>>8339884
Do iit
I believe in you snick ^^
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>>8339897
>have to eat more to get boobs
Have you tried prog?
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>>8339894
I fucked up.
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tfw she's not here for snuggs
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>>8339894
>when are you going to post both your guns for all of us to see?
When kayla takes a pic of me with a pump in good lighting lmfao.

When I take selfies in my terrible horrible bathroom lighting, I literally look like I am allergic to lifting.

Pic related: astoundingly DYEL (at least is no pump)
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>>8339897
thia is my cunundrum as well.
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>>8339881
Stopping me masturbating seems okay, but I'd kind of like a sex drive. Also, I do sorta want boobies purely so I can play with them in sex/masturbating, so as a side note, how sensitive are yours?
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>>8339898
My old doctor wouldn't prescribe it
I'll try to convince my new one to get me prog
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Newfag here what is AGP?
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>>8339908
autogynephilia
aka trans lesbians
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>>8339903
You're going to have a hard time passing with those shoulders but I think a nice cardigan can help
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It wants to die.
>>
where can i go to get a roast beef sandwich at 11 pm

jimmy johns is closed
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>>8339908
u just posted it.
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>>8339910
I think the androgens should help cap out my delts and give me some nice boulder shoulders..

So sick of this natty nonsense

I just want to be half as good as jeff seid
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>>8339912
Between my legs desu
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>>8339912
Walmart
>>
c'est ta fete, mon amie
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>>8339905
like stupidly sensitive.

idk, it's up to you. My dysphoria seems to be worse than most people's, so I wouldn't really take my reasoning as being the standard for HRT. If you wanna be more girly and have fewer boners, go for it, but just be aware that it might make cross-play feel less exciting and more normal.

>>8339908
a meme people made to say that transition is a fetish.
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>>8339910
tfw always wear a cardigan at work but everyone still calls me sir
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>>8339915
gross

>>8339916
oh yeah i can make a sandwich, huh, i forgot about that

i kind of want arbys
>>
why is Logic's music so double sided.

One song in his album Everybody is like everybody let's not let our differences let us separate us, and that all the dumb racial shit in the media is just a bunch of nonsense that just tries to separate people more and more, but in the same album, he's like "fuck u white boi"

y
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>>8339924
stop listening to bad music
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>>8339400
and this is my hair after getting it washed / straightened
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>>8339924
top listening to bad music
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>>8339917
y a-t-il des tabernacs dans mon fil?
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>>8339928
cute hair
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>>8339910
I'm the cardigan wearer in the relationship
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>>8339928
For what it's worth, I prefer the aesthetic pre-straightening
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>>8339920
So now I'm back at the start again. Why can't I just use PM for 3 months, see if that does anything?
People seem pretty insistent that HRT is the only way to go, but I've known for a while the drawbacks are fucking insane.
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>>8339931
ty i should have done a goofy face
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>>8339934
I think it would be cute if you two wore matching outfits
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>>8339934
Right?
Suddenly just because I wear panties and a wig and want to be a girl, everyone thinks I am trans...
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>>8339928
Cute :3
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>>8339941
do you steal your girlfriends hrt or are you afraid they will cut into your gainz?
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Wanna get dead
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>>8339943
Lol he won't even kiss me while my estrogen is dissolving
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>>8339943
Literally don't even kiss kayla for a good few minutes after she takes that gains-killing poison.
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>>8339941
>and want to be a girl,
Just like mootikins
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>>8339950
Was m00tles trutrans or agp?
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>>8339930
peut être hon hon
>>8339929
>>8339927
it was only the beginning of the song that was like "fuck u white boi". It transitioned over to the normal Logic equality nonsense.

Idk about you guys, but recently, a lot of popular rap has been super groovy. Not exactly referring to Logic.
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>>8339948
>>8339947
Lol, we are so synched its crazy
I love you daddy
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>>8339955
D'aww remind me I owe you headpats for being such a cutie
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>people on a discord talking about 'special interests' because apparently autistic people tend to have those
>realize my obsession with shitfiction would probably qualify as one
who the fuck gets emotionally attached to 600k of mario being a nazi
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>>8339953
trutans. Didnt you see her in avatar?
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>>8339937
PM?

yeah, it's kinda crazy, because you're literally replacing one set of hormones for the other. It's very all-or-nothing, and honestly, you need to be ready for that.

HOWEVER

you can't just sit around for years wondering whether the drawbacks are worth it - no cis guy would ever even consider looking girly to be a benefit.

>>8339950
holy shit, back when I started posting, people used to say I looked like moot xD
his jawline is SO much worse
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>>8339957
Wew
S-senpai~
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>>8339960
Haha holy shit.
Oh dear lord.
I almost shat myself from laughter.
I don't have an appropriate enough reaction image to express the hilarity
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>>8339950
>tfw not as coot as moot
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>>8339958
>Tfw hardly little to no interests and hobbies anymore
being boring is great.
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>>8339908

It's a dumb meme based on some weird fringe psychological theory that's been rejected by the scientific community. It's used to tease transgirls if they do...just about anything other than be straight and hate themselves.
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>>8339965
>kaylas bf is a newfag
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Hi /mtfg/ just here for my semi-annual check up
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I want to transition but, I a ubermenschen
I have blonde hair and blue eyes, all my ancestors are German, I feel I would destroy my heritage transitioning but I have a feminine form and posture.
Help me, why can't I stop being dysphoric?
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>>8339928
Linebacker in a dress
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>>8339967
want to write autistic shitfiction with me?
rn i'm working on "corvo of the sacred heart: masketta man"
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>>8339970
Pass, leave. Free yourself from this shit hole
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>>8339970

Hey you're pretty cute
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>>8339954
>peut être hon hon
fais attention, je t'ai à l'oeil, peu importe ce que tu es
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>>8339971
>ubermenschen
du bist untermensch
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>>8339969
I've been here since I was a 14 year old faggot, I just live a half normie life spending most my time off 4chan, so I miss some of the danker memes
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>>8339971
Transition and live long enough for gene therapy to let you have biological children. Or sperm bank. Are you into guys or girls?
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Wanna get dead.
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>>8339970
That's a face I haven't seen in a while
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>>8339965
yeah moot legit transitioned to sygnourny gender
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>>8339970
Hey hon
>>
i keep eating. i wish i didnt do that.
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>>8339978
But no one knows
>>8339980
I like boys, but I have shagged a couples girls
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>>8339961
Pueraria mirifica. It's a herb supplement that contains phytoestrogens, and in short term trials didn't do jack shit, but most people raving about it helping grow their boobies say you need 3 months at least. See >>8339320
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i can't wait to be a girl
>tfw starving your masculinity away
>tfw haven't looked this good in ages
>tfw boobs coming out
>tfw can look in a mirror and see a girl sometimes
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>>8339973
ty i was a professional NFL lineman pre hrt
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>>8339981
that looks like a bad place to aim a gun - you'll just blow off your jaw
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>>8339970
>Jocelyn is still angle master supreme
You people never change.
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>>8339977
je ne sais pas bon avec parler francais, parce que je le n'etudie pas dans longtemps
>>8339974
idk i've never really written much. I wrote a short story once like last year, but that's it desu.
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>>8339981
just transition already bb
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>>8339996
Gender, gender never changes
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>>8339981
>>8339981
You are not holding the gun right, if you pulled the trigger you would end up in the hospital with skull damaged or end up in pain for hours while you die
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>>8339994
Brain stem or temple would be more effective
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>>8340000
I'm trying. I want to die.
>>
>punched a mirror
>mirror broke
>got glass in my hand
>had to go the hospital and get the glass taken out and the wounds stitched up

Why did I think punching the mirror was a good idea
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>>8339998
>writing ability
>shitfiction
let me tell you about shitposting
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>>8339990
I can't wait to be a roidmonster
>tfw eating big to get big
>tfw haven't looked this good in ages
>pecs starting to fill out
>can look in the mirror and not see a DYEL sometimes
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why couldn't i have just been born a girl dammit
why am i trying to force it when it's hopeless
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fuck, I don't remember when I put my pasta in

>>8339986
someone's jealous

>>8339989
>Pueraria mirifica
AHAHAHA holy crap, no, PM doesn't do jack shit. Just get on HRT already if you want boobs, herbal is legit meme-tier snake oil.
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>>8340006
Your a mentally I'll degenerate like the rest of us, that's why
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>>8339992
Your face says it all
I showed that pic to my sister and she said you don't pass
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>>8340008
I just don't want ur attitude to change on T. Test makes people agro, but I'm not saying go on estrogen either because thats silly, real silly
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>>8340012
Does pueraria mirifica help if you're already on hrt
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>>8340004
dw we've all been there. just take your pills and keep on living it's hard but u can do it
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>>8339990
Girl mode pandora WHEN
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>>8340007
Oh, I think I have an really decent writing ability, but I'm not entirely sure about fiction. What is shit fiction anyways
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>>8340012
take a fork and just get a piece of it, blow on it, and see how soft it is
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protip: if you wear a diaper your hips will look bigger
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>>8339977
that's kinda creepy
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>>8340017
i mean okay but why would that be relevant to me at all?
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how the fuck do i see a girl in the mirror
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>>8339989
I will say though --- you need to give estrogen/spiro like 3 months, but you actually get results instead of just moobs.

>>8340020
not really. You may as well just tweak your dose instead.

>>8340024
yeah, that's what I did. Still p hard.
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>>8340025
don't b weird
>>
i think HRT broke my bipolar
i haven't gotten a proper hypomanic period (ie longer than a day or two) while on HRT
when i stopped HRT for a month i got a proper rebound for a week or so
it was bad hypomania because i was suicidal too tho
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>>8340025
S T E W I N G

A
N
D

B R E W I N G
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>>8340025
Or u can so squats and hip thrusts
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>>8340027
all anons are by default massive creepers
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>>8340025
delete this post please
>>
Hey just to let some of you know just because you can post something every time the post timer runs out doesnt mean you have to.
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>>8340029
get a girlfriend and get her to stand in front of you
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>>8340029
Effort
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>>8340023
shitfic is just shitpost fanfiction basically
pre-hrt i wrote a 600 thousand word mario /pol/fic over the course of two years

the last chapter was like 40k of bernie sanders giving birth to goat babies

>>8340022
when i move out probably
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>>8340035
>implying you have even touched a barbell since transitioning
Dr. Bret Contreras is disappoint
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>>8340028
Why transition when you don't pass?
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>>8340029
take girly pills and come back to your mirror after a couple months
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>>8340012
>>8340030
And now I'm back at this again. I've gone around on a massive circle like three times now.

> hey does PM work
> no, you need HRT
> doesn't that fuck you up
> yes
> well why don't I try PM to see if it works for me, and if it doesn't I can bring back some proof for people curious in the future
> no you need HRT
> but that fucks you up
> yeah it does.

Seriously, does ANYONE know of a 3 month trial of PM, and whether it did anything? Because yeah, short term I agree it does fuck all, but I'm seriously curious if long-term is possible, or if it's just rubbing the PM creams into your breasts and growing them via massage that makes a difference.
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>>8340035
those make your thighs bigger but not really your hips..
>>
where does chara post?
>>
>>8340019
I already told you, ho.
My bro has worse anger/stress issues than me, and both him and his fiance say test doesn't affect him, but tren gives him hella roidrage.

I have no plans on taking tren
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>>8340053
you're mom
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>>8340051
I wish I had beeps perfect legs
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>>8340045
Well then show me how to do it next time baby, i dunno how barbells an shit werks
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>>8340053

https://discord(DOT)gg/PkRsKB

the transgirl discord group
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>>8340051
>hip thrusts make your thighs bigger
Y-you're not exactly literate in biomechanics are you?
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>>8339987
im eating sour patch kid
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>>8340044
why don't u write seriously
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>>8340058
>implying we will waste our precious free time together under a barbell instead of cuddling and doing lewd stuff
Yeah sure..
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Who else is taking HRT but never transitioning or presenting female
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>>8340066
me
i don't want to be a freak
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>>8340066
kinda
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>>8340066
Me
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>>8340064
Yeah, guess ur right. Cuddle time is best time. Sry i forgot to massage ur neck. I have tomorrow night off so maybe we can use your Jacuzzi, i don't think my belly piercing will get infected
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>>8340063
no motivation
i do write smut tho
or at least i need to get back into it
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>>8340066
You know it bb
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>>8340057
*puts my legs across ur lap*
here
>>8340060
what
>>8340062
good choice. i bought wings tonight bc they wouldnt cook me rice :/ need low protein diet
>>
>>8340047
i do pass tho like no matter how many times you cover your ears and scream at the computer screen YOU'RE A UNPASSING HON

what doesn't stop being true is that I objectively pass and I've been living full time in a hostile anti trans area for a long time now

so really of you and your sister agree that I don't pass its quite literally irrelevant to my daily life because to most everyone else i pass and that's really what matters

some random in the internet I'll never see again saying I don't pass is like I said before totally irrelevant regardless of how strongly you feel about it
>>
>>8340066
>>8307445
>>
>>8340066

I dress pretty much the same as I did before except when I'm going out with friends. But I'm out to my friends and I have my preferred name used at work.

Sometimes when running errands I use my deadname because dumbasses can't pronounce my name apparently.

Despite dressing the same, I look pretty femme because of my hair, face, and build.
>>
>>8340078
You Really Think Someone Would Do That? Just Go On the Internet and Tell Lies?
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>>8340050
PM is totally useless short and long term. it's either take hrt and accept the changes, or don't. it's really simple

>fucks you up

care to elaborate?
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>>8340053
mfw when summoned.
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>>8340066
I wanna do that, but I don't wanna fuck up my life with HRT.
>>
>>8339928
you would wear a belt so that your shape looks better. you look like a bit of a potato right now, lol.
>>
>>8340087
begone foul demon
>>
>>8340087
>mfw when
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>>8340084
hi kanaya
>>
Suicidal. How do I see a therapist for help without them putting me in the hospital and taking away my hrt
>>
>>8340086
> all these people in these threads complaining about how since starting HRT their moods have been fucked
> all those health issues
> that sterility
> that post-transition/during transition suicide rate
I just want b o o b s for fondling damn it.
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>>8340090
the demon that comes when people call its name

>>8340091
who the fuck are you
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>>8340084
lol im a waitress and interact with the public daily

>>8340089
yeah im pudgy I agree with needing belts
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>>8340050
It really depends on what you want. PM will not give you boobs. The best results I've ever seen were moob-tier. You can check susan's for trials, but I'm feeling super lightheaded atm.

>>8340053
/r9k/
look for piety
she lurks here a lot too, and I think on /b/ as well?
>>
>>8340074
nuh

im going to bring you around and call you my waifu

ill wear my suits and stuff
>>
>korra posting pics
makes me feel sick and laugh at the same time
>>
>>8340099
Just some drunken bored autist
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>>8340084
black transwomen pass easier because black women look like men
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>>8340106
Yeah hons are funny.
>>
>>8340101
Anyone can tell you're a man
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You're all going to make it, I believe in each of you
I wish I could hugg each of you when things get rough in y'all's lives
>>8340097
Just talk about the suicidal thoughts without mentioning plans. You'll only get committed if you're a danger to yourself or others
>>
>>8340106
lol, same.
>>8340110
i wouldn't say that at all.
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>>8340117
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>
>>8340098
yeah if that's what you want then there isn't anything out there that will give you that
>literally everyone has bad days trans or cis it's not a problem exclusively tied to hrt since the transitioning process is difficult and not for the weak
>health issues such as?
>adopt or sperm bank
>due to several factors unrelated to hrt making you directly suicidal

but anyway yeah nothing here that'll help you. you can waste money on pm if you want tho

>>8340116
lol
>>
>>8340112
Says the hon
>>
>>8340112
>>8340116
>>8340118
makes me wish my brain was missing whatever part and allowed me to be as delusional
>>
>>8340098
if your fake magic estrogen plant doesn't change your mood, it's because you're not getting enough estrogen
if you don't block testosterone it'll be hard to get boobs
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Well while, im here. One time offer.
If you wish to have your folder removed here is your chance.
>>
>>8340129
>has folder of self
?
>>
>>8340129
delet me
>>
>>8340099
moap's sad you won't be friends with her anymore
>>
>>8340129
what's in the pandora folder
>>
>>8340126
well when you start passing and living full time as a woman maybe you'll post pics and show all hons out there how it's done eh?
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>>8340118
>i wouldn't say that at all.
black women who have western beauty ideal features either got surgery or they have european genes
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>>8340126
how the heck am i being delusional. korra looks weird, i guess she passes to an idiot, sure. I didn't say all black women were men though. that was a /pol/anon
>>
>>8340141
thats a sub-saharan african.
>>
>>8340129
everyones. time to grow out of your old porn.
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>>8340132
can never trust yourself.

>>8340133
done

>>8340134
moap is literally stalking me, it's so weird.

>>8340135
just some pictures

>>8340140
kek
>>
>>8340142
I was saying korra is delusional
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>>8340122
Well I can't argue with those dubs. Fuck, I'll probably give PM a shot simply because I'm an optimist but it kinda sounds like HRT is too hardcore for what I want.
>>
anyone have latest tier list saved?
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>>8340129
Make a folder for me.
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>>8340148
ok but which ones
i need to know
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am i kawaii
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>>8340129
why are people like this
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>>8340129
deltoid please ty
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>>8340148
>moap is literally stalking me
she isn't the only one
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>>8340152
i mean there's being optimistic and then there's being retarded. I'm telling you pm does fuck all because to grow breasts you need to suppress testosterone production and replace it with estrogen or you do not get breasts. pm. does not do that it's a medical fact
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>>8340149
>passes
>is full time
>these objective things that happen daily in real life are delusions

Shit dude if. that's the case then unplug me from the matrix I want the blue pill
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>>8340153
we need a new one
>>8340129
PLEASE MAKE A NEW TIER LIST!
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>>8340147
I don't masturbate to them nigga.

>>8340154
Sure what's your name skeleton?

>>8340155
Any you posted in discords, or publicly.

>>8340158
Like what?

>>8340160
done

>>8340164
No, I'm well aware i have around 3-5 stalkers currently.
I wish anyone luck that tries.
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>>8340129
>tfw you're in a different folder
._.
I totally forgot.
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>>8340170
3SPOOKY5ME
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>>8340170
you hold folders of data of various people
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>>8340156
yea
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>>8340176
A lot of people save pics. It's not that weird.
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>>8340168
I'm not the one who made the tier lists.

>>8340174
I finally got around to it.
tfw you never talk to me anymore.

>>8340176
I like information.

>>8340181
It's not just pictures.

Maybe i should just post all the information publicly
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>>8340181
Idk how I would feel if anyone saved my pics, thank god I have only anonposted any pics of me.
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can you just stay in r9k chara
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>>8340189
Then i have every single one.

>>8340192
I'll be gone soon, just saying hi.
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>>8340186
I rarely talk to anyone I met here anymore, it's nothing personal.

>>8340186
>Maybe i should just post all the information publicly
please don't, I know you have some sensitive info of mine.
>>
>>8340189
the attention is nice i guess
i don't have a facebook or anything that could really pinpoint my location so i've got like
no worries posting my selfies
>>
>>8340179
nice
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>>8340193
You have my one faceapp photo then kek
>>
should i post some images of my young nude body
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>>8340165
Shit, you're right. Lots of stuff has phytoestrogens and that does fuckall.

I mean I'm low test now, but I assume since I'm not in hospital or taking supplements, I'd still need blockers.

Fuck me, there's no easy way. I'd say 'stop trying to make me take HRT' but it's more a case of I'm too nervous about the downsides, or getting arrested for importing a controlled drug or something.

How legal is it to self-medicate in places? Pastebin says for America, but I'm in a different western nation, and our customs are insane.
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>>8340205
UNDERAGE B&
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>>8340206
its not illegal anywhere afaik they will just destroy the package if they find it
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>>8340194
But we are best friends, ill share some orbiters.
I wouldn't post that stuff, if we're still friends.

>>8340203
Living the dream :^)
i think i know which one you're talking about then.
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>>8340193
hi chara
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>>8340214
hi sheen, no one has been bullying you while i was gone have they?
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>>8340206
it's legal
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>>8340217
yeah but I deserved it desu
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>>8340206
>since I'm not in hospital or taking supplements
I was low test before transition (to the point where people recommended supplements), but I still need blockers.

>>8340211
<3 I'm glad to hear it. Too many people cut me off just because we haven't talked in a while :(

It'd be great if we could share orbiters, but I'm not nearly charismatic enough for that ._. pittsburgh has flint-tier water, I have no money, and my last brita filter just died.
>>
>>8340210
Fuuuug.
I just wanna be a little more fem, damn it. Is the 6 months you can stop thing a meme or real?
>>
>>8340196
Yeah, I'd like to post pics, but I got facebook and I'm paranoid as fuck.
>>
>>8340186
i know that. but you do have everyone's pictures, which means you can make one again
>>
>>8340224
once you stop taking hrt you slowly revert back to how you looked before including losing all breast growth
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>>8340222
Tell me who it was.

>>8340223
Want me to buy you a new one?
I've been making a lot of money recently.

>>8340227
I don't really care to, i will if you pay me though.
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>>8340229
you can also die
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>>8340230
ahhhh that would be awesome!!!
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>>8340233
Death is preferable over stopping hormones for good and aging as a man imo.
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>>8340233
your skin turns inside out and all of your internal organs will explode
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>been rotating between depressed and horny back and forth for the past two hours
heck you too estrogen
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>>8340239
if for some reason I had go permanently stop hrt I would just be a drag queen tbqh sub optimal but the closest I could get
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>>8340243
I dont think i would last more than a few months if im being perfectly honest. I was so close to suicide before hormones and i know those feelings would just come back.
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>>8340238
message me on discord, and you can have one.

I'm going now, until next time trannies.
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>>8340247
>implying
>>
>>8340242
>tfw not on mones yet and would kill to feel like that...
>>
Would pressing a gun against my eye ensure the bullet reaches my brain?
>>
>>8340251
can you just go get on hormones please? You will feel much better and the people in your life arent going to be devastated forever because of your loss. Stop being selfish and get help.
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>>8340247
did you remove me from your friends list or something?
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>>8340246
yeah I'd be alot more depressed but I think drag would maybe keep the feelings at bay enough for me to live life
>>
>>8340242

If you get a bf that will take care of both btw
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>>8340250
>tfw exist
>>8340251
look up the anatomy of the skull and make a hypothesis based on that and the trajectory; bullets go straight usually. Although it's been a while since I've studied the brain, which by the way is god awful to formally study, you'd likely just hit gray/white matter
>>
>tfw girls are easily prescribed spiro for acne
>tfw I have to see a psychiatrist for months to get the same drug

life is cruel
>>
>>8340251
maybe some of the lower half the frontal lobe and the occipital lobe, but I have no clue. I haven't looked at a brain diagram in forever.
>>
>>8340261
Say that it is for acne and that you are a real gril. Discrimination if they don't give it to you, get their licence revoked.
>>
no matter what part of my face I cover up I still can't tell what my worst features are. It's all bad.
>>
>>8340273
Yeah, totally.
>>
>>8340273
trade faces with me.
>>
>>8340261
well you know we need to think of the 1 patient out of 5000 who thinks they are trans but turns out to just be a cis guy. having the wrong hormones in your body is terrible and we have to do everything possible to stop it from happening
>>
>>8340250
It's a wild ride and it's not all good.

Times when I'm dead inside I want to feel like this

Times like this I want to be dead inside

>>8340259
I have someone better
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>>8340273
bdd
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>>8340273
then get u some nice shades bam. you won't have to see your face at all
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>>8340277
I'd rather a wild ride than perma dead inside, but I guess I won't find out for a few months
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>>8340283
Tell me that again when you haven't been able to leave your house in 8 days and you're laying on the bathroom floor crying your eyes out and holding a knife to your throat and thinking about all those regrets in your life that are coming out unrepressed all at once
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>>8340286
Stop scaring the little babytran you goober.
>>
>>8340286
Not sure a Smug Anime Girl™ was appropriate there, but it was certainly needed.
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>>8340283
its gonna be gr8
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>>8340291
heck u im going to cum in your ass
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>>8340295
oh my..
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>>8340286
Thank you fren
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>>8340295
Seems like the bad pupper must learn her place.
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>>8340302
Sorry if I came off as an asshole. HRT is a mixed bag of tricks and not all of it is always good. Being dead inside has some perks if you have a lot of unresolved issues. At my lowest times I wish I repressed and stayed dead inside since it's easier than struggling on.

>>8340303
W-what?
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>>8340310
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>>8340315
>>
>>8340310
It's fine, I am just very anxious to start.
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who tf up
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tfw the ONE thing holding me back from ever being happy is my ogre height
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>>8340329
i am sure your height is cute!
>>
>>8340329
Is 6'2 ogre? Not that I am that height, asking for a friend.
>>
>>8340328
You.
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>>8340329
If that's the only thing holding your back, seems like you're doing okay senpai
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>>8340294
ayooo
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>>8340335
true
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>>8340322
Gonna fluff your hair when I see you.
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>>8340337
whoops, shit.
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>>8340337
>>8340342
Hey Charizard
whats up
quit ringing my fucking doorbell
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>>8340339
So am I.
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>>8340344
phone broke
get to chat with my social worker if I get something to call from by tuesday and have all the documents I need
on a new anxiety med
almost blacked out an hour ago
hbu
>>
>>8340346

>>8340346

>>8340346
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>>8340347
gosh that sounds like a lot going on
im in a rather crappy situation
but ive been skyping kari for a while now so thats keeping my spirits up at lesat
>>
>>8340350
woo~~

family problems? or something new?
>>
>>8340276
yeah :/
hormones are drugs. they're pretty much as bad as cocaine. right?
cis girls can still take them for acne though. as long as they're not mentally ill fetishists it's ok
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