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the discord rules say
>be European

i'm a britbong does that count?

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>>8215772
Why, yes ofcourse

>>8215906
I feel like an EU joke could be made out of this

>>8215772
NO it doesn't.

>>8215906
NO.

Shota bulges and gross and creepy

>>8217096
>gross and creepy
Ironic coming from you.

>>>/soc/25132319

post /boyfeet/ and leggies :3

>>8215709
>Most are gay
Never met an effeminate dude who was also straight

>>8217576
I've met a few, probably not quite femboy-tier though, just effeminate personality.

>>8214200
>>8214277
>>8214339

Last thread archived before these were answered and I'm interested in what's to say.
Anyone have any hair tips?

>>8217816

I biculatamide (sp?) and finasteride (sp??) help
As well as biotin, vitamin supplement
That's about all i know, anon, but only through skimming other convos

>>8217576
>>8217624

I've met plenty here in my college town

>>8217816
talk to a dermatologist about your scalp
you don't know that you have mpb until you've been checked for it, likely by said dermatologist
there are many contributing factors in hair loss, a lot of which come exactly from stress and anxiety to form a viscious cycle of hair loss
if you do have mpb, you'll likely be given the option to take finasteride/propecia (typically 1-5 mg [1mg is enough, since there are diminishing returns right away, but 5 won't exactly kill you]) which is an fda approved method of reducing the effects of mpb
also be sure to understand that finasteride, like most medications, has side effects that should be considered
the other fda approved method of reducing hair loss due to pattern baldness is minoxidil (rogaine)
though often less effective, it has the potential to help if used twice a day, every day until you die
there are also dietary changes that can potentially help maintain healthy hair, though these are usually not proven or don't have enough of an effect to be considered helpful
i don't know how your particular situation will be, since you also have a skin condition and extremely long hair, but it should be pretty similar and i would imagine a dermatologist would be able to better help you there
be wary of scams, too, but that's basically a given in these times
there are also less healthy ways of managing the effects, depending on your goals, but try this method out first at least

I never met a European that didn't diddle in the drizzle at least once.

>>8217816
Yes. What kind of hair do you have? I have straight hair, so here's my advice for people with straight hair:
- Conditioner is mandatory. It won't make a difference right away, but as time goes on your hair will look much better.
- Don't blowdry your hair. Shower at night and let it air dry.
- Don't just grow your hair out and forget about it. You need to get it regularly trimmed or the ends will look ragged.
For the days you want to look extra pretty:
- Brush your hair upside down. It will give it more volume. If your hair is thin, use a little hairspray to keep it in place afterward.
- Get an argan oil spray and use it on the ends. Be careful, though, as too much will make your hair look greasy.
- If your hair is too flat on the top and the brushing upside down trick didn't for you, you can use a small amount of volumizing powder.

>>8218093
Can I get this but for thick curly Jew haired fags?

eurogen is just a nazi getting drunk
idgi

are there *any* ways to get a feminine haircut without just flat out asking the stylist to give you a woman's cut?

i live in the deep south, so even hairstylists will get weirded out by broken gender roles.

>>8218130
Short hair or long hair?

>>8218105
>dodo


Dodos an ebin doxxer creepy tranny chaser failed male faggot. Avoid at all costs

>>8218135
it's long, but it just looks like typical long unkempt dude hair. I don't want to look like Katy Perry but I don't know how to ask a stylist for something fem/androgynous at least.

i guess i just have to suck it up and ask or see if I can find a stylist that's trans friendly, but like i said in the deep south it's hard. most stylists here are poor white girls from the country who are still very homophobic/transphobic.

My night nurse complimented my hair on being big
I didn't think it was particularly big but then i looked in the mirror and holy shit
I've got some hardcore knaps going on
someone get me some fucking conditioner, i look like i have a lion's mane

Daily reminder that circe drops trip to attack tripfags and randoms from discord like dodo. Ignore "her" at all costs.

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>MFW I am getting a spot test done on my hive break outs in 3 days.

It could be the spiro and if it is I have to self med because "MUH FDA"

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I'm the anon with long hair, didn't realize somebody linked to my previous questions, but I'm super happy they did.
>>8217911
>You don't know that you have mpb until you've been checked for it, likely by said dermatologist
Okay so the derma should be able to tell me that for sure? All I have to go on is my PCP told me I had it around 3-4 years ago. It started around 5 or so years ago and been slowly creeping back ever since. I've got a severe V thing going on and it's super thin in the middle.
Think Vegeta from DBZ, that's how I look at it.
I've heard of minoxidil before, that's a cream right? I'll be honest I'm getting pretty desperate here these past few months because I love my hair very dearly. I'll ask about all that after I pick out a good derma to talk to.
>there are also dietary changes that can potentially help
I'm a celiac and also have severe colitis, I suppose this is a good segue into me asking about diet stuff since my diet is absolutely fucked most of the time due to this.
>>8218093
My hair is straight most of the time but a little curly on the ends or short bits. I use to do a straight part down the middle but ever since my hair loss it won't lay right and it's too thin in the middle to part, so I do a backwards retarded comb thing. Like obi-wan kenobi from episode 2 sorta. Which just shows off the bald spots worse, but it won't lay right any other way.
Couple questions.
Are all conditioners basically the same? pic related is what I've used about a year now but still not sure if I even do it right.
>Don't just grow your hair out and forget about it. You need to get it regularly trimmed or the ends will look ragged
So this is a real thing? I've been told this before but I haven't gotten it cut in 5+ years or so. How much needs to be trimmed?
How does one brush their hair upside down?
>>8217890
I have a vitamin shop near here, so I should be able to find vitamin supplements as long as they aren't overly expensive.
Thanks for the advice anons.

>>8220154
>Okay so the derma should be able to tell me that for sure?
If they are any good, yes.
>I've heard of minoxidil before, that's a cream right?
It usually comes as a liquid, foam, or spray. I'd recommend the foam type to you in particular, since it seems to be less irritating to the scalp and you may have sensitive skin, but I'd ask a dermatologist about applying it at all with your skin condition(s). I don't really know too much about skin conditions and what affects them at this time and I don't know much extra about the spray method. Topical minoxidil also comes in 2% and 5% minoxidil content: go with the 5% ones. They're shown to have better results and the 2% one seems to mostly be used in female treatment. Minoxidil also comes in pill form but DO NOT take it in pill form, as that's mostly just a blood pressure medication.
>I'm a celiac and also have severe colitis...me asking about diet stuff
Well probably nothing with gluten, eh? But seriously, I'm not too sure what sorts of foods/suppliments would work for you off the top of my head. I can look into it, but this week is so swamped I'm starting to see Shrek when I close my eyes.
>Are all conditioners basically the same?
Technically, in that they all condition, but there are important differences between different types. One should choose a conditioner that fits their hair style. Kind of like how you wouldn't wash cotton fabric the same way you would wash silk fabric. Normally people choose a conditioner based on their hair texture or hair health. Like, the conditioner you have is meant for frizzy hair; do you have frizzy hair? There are guides on how to choose a good conditioner, and it doesn't need to be an absolute perfect fit for it to do a good job, but that would be a good start.
Fitting shampoos are also probably not a bad touch, but I don't know much about those.

>>8220505
Yes, I do have extremely sensitive skin, something of which I really hope they can help me with. It really sucks having red scaly itchy skin in horrible places. But that's a lot of info on minoxidil to digest, thank you.
>Nothing with gluten, eh?
Yeah that's the big thing, you'd be surprise where all that shit can wind up at, even in the most unexpecting places. Besides that a lot of stuff makes me sick, so I'm pretty underweight, but that kinda helps with my fem body if I can just whip it into shape some.
>do you have frizzy hair
Yeah that's been a problem for a long time, it's why I started using a conditioner in the first place because my hair would get straw like and break easily and everytime I comb my hair I yank out tons of hair. It's crazy. I don't understand how women keep their long hair so pretty, I really want to do that.
>fitting shampoos are also probably not a bad touch
Yeah I've been thinking lately I might need different ones, I've used the same two brands for like 10 years now.
Thank you for your help

What's the best femboy drug to stop hair loss as well?

>>8221139
Dutasteride, it's finasteride's big brother and will block more dht in your scalp follicles by blocking almost all 5ar.

But beware the sexual side effects. It nuked my libido when I used it. No sex drive EXCEPT for my agp, but I also still got wet dreams?? So take my experience with a grain of salt.

I quit dutasteride and I'm trying to get a finasteride prescription now but my dermatologist didn't want to prescribe it. I'm going to ask again next visit or else I'll have to resort to dut again.

>>8221199
Hmm, I'm not so worried about sexual side effects honestly, and if anything a low libido will help me stop watching porn so it's sort of a benefit.

Also how does blocking DHT affect the body in other ways?

Thanks.

>>8221104
How long have you had sensitive skin for? One would think you would have visited a skin specialist sooner, no?
Do you take multivitamins or other supplements? Just curious. May be worth a look, but I don't have a whole lot of scientific information to give out on them just yet.
Also curious as to whether do regular exercise or not, but it's not vital for me to know or anything.
>everytime I comb my hair I yank out tons of hair
H-how hard do you brush? Or is the hair so loosely bonded that it pulls out even with the gentlest of brushes?
But yeah, more things to consider with conditioners and hair care in general is the climate you live in. It seems that humidity and wind are the main factors to consider, along with maybe sun exposure if you care about hair color to an obsessive extent.
>I've used the same two brands for like 10 years now.
You use two different shampoos? Any reason for that? And experimenting around with different types (giving it a good 2-3 weeks per change) can yield great results if you put the effort into the research. But there is a lot of (biased) information out there, so I can understand the troubles. Also, some shampoos/conditioners may irritate the skin; I don't know which ones to look out for in that regard though.

>>8221139
a bullet


Also circe doxes people watch out

Fuck dodo

>>8221486
Wtf?

>>8221498
Howdy dodo

>>8221139
Many antiandrogens negatively affect the androgens (mainly DHT) that are thought to cause pattern baldness. So whatever choice you make is likely to do both.
With systems as complex as human body function, there is no best drug. Otherwise there would only be one drug for a given thing, and seeing as there are hundreds of antiandrogenic drugs currently in use out there... One of the most commonly provided drugs for (pattern) hair loss in males in finasteride, though I don't know of the feminization it may or may not cause. Dutasteride isn't typically used for feminization (it's not a prescribed tranny pill), however it seems effective in reducing hair loss. Dutasteride is like finasteride's big brother in that it inhibits types I, II, and III of 5-alpha reductase enzymes (they convert testosterone into DHT) as opposed to finasterides inhibition of types II and III (for an overall circulating DHT reduction effectiveness of ~90% compared to ~70% for finasteride).
What other meds you take also matters, as redundancies and interactions between meds may arise (e.g. redundancy: if you're taking meds that nuke your testosterone, inhibiting your testosterone doesn't do a whole lot at that point; interactions: dutasteride's side effects tend to be boosted or affected when on bicalutamide, though there are few studies to support this [like many drug interactions]). Also these types of meds may be straining on your liver, so be wary of that general rule. Also be wary that dutesteride (for hair loss) is usually around .5mg, as opposed to fina at 1-5mg.
TL;DR: Just take whatever antiandrogens that won't kill you and you'll likely experience less hair loss. Maybe supplement it with fina (1-5mg) or Duta (~.5mg). Also be sure that you're taking more than just an antiandrogen, as that tends to be problematic at higher dosages.
>>8221486
What's the controversy, again? I only just met Dodo, like, a month ago. They seemed alright to me. Hopefully nobody actually got doxxed.

>>8221453
>How long have you had sensitive skin for? One would think you would have visited a skin specialist sooner, no?
Yeah, I've had psoriasis for 12 years or longer now, and I use to see a derma in another city around 5 years ago but at that time I only got some creams and ointments that would stop working every month and I'd have to switch to different ones and they burned like hell. But it's gotten pretty bad lately so I've been gearing up to see a new dermatologist clinic and go all in with everything I can.
>Do you take multivitamins or other supplements?
No, I don't take any vitamins, but however I do drink a special nutrition shake multiple times a day due to my other medial problems and it has a lot of vitamins and other stuff in it, supposedly. I guess that kind of counts, not sure.
>Or is the hair so loosely bonded that it pulls out even with the gentlest of brushes?
Yeah, pretty much like that, I shed a lot, LOT of hair.
>Humidity, sun exposure, wind
I have in a horrible cesspool of humidity.
>You use two different shampoos? Any reason for that?
To be honest, I guess it's just because it's been my routine for so long that I never thought about it, I just replace the bottles a few times a month and I've never thought to try out other brands or experiment. There's always so many that I guess I've just never thought about it. As for why I use two brands, well a few years ago the main brand I use (Head and shoulders) Started to get where it wouldn't clean my hair properly, even after I would wash it it would be greasy and dirty feeling, so I started to do a back to back thing with that brand, plus another called Prell. Most people should know the first, the second looks like green jelly.
Almost forgot
>do you do regular exercise or not?
I don't, really, outside of small morning walks. I'm sort of sickly so I don't do too much.

>>8221557
Thank you

>>8221627
>I only got some creams and ointments that would stop working every month and I'd have to switch to different ones and they burned like hell
Woah, really? Did your body get some tolerance to them or something? That sounds awful. I'm glad you're going to get things checked out though; I wish you the best of luck!
>I guess that kind of counts, not sure.
It's probably better than just taking a single multivitamin, since getting vitamins from food is usually more effective...assuming the shake is made of mostly food and not just crushed up vitamins, I mean.
>I shed a lot, LOT of hair.
This is probably something to look into (likely with a dermatologist). While shedding is natural even for the healthiest hair, shedding a lot for more than a couple weeks is likely cause for some alarm.
>I have in a horrible cesspool of humidity.
I feel for you. Though at least it's super windy here, so it's...slightly more manageable, in a different way.
>the main brand I use (Head and shoulders) Started to get where it wouldn't clean my hair properly
Just out of the blue? Interesting... Could be a few things, but I'd need more information to be more certain, not that it's of particular importance right now anyway.
>I don't, really, outside of small morning walks.
That's understandable, was just curious. I'd ask more but I'm not fond of prying or annoying, even if it's only a chance of doing either.
Also I'll be gone for a while after this post, in case it matters.

>>8221827
>Did your body get some tolerance to them
Yes, that tends to happen sadly with psoriasis, so it's why sometimes you have to switch up every couple months and then switch back between ointments. But actually some of them have steroids in them which can cause issues.
>Shedding a lot more than a couple weeks is likely cause for some alarm
Yeah that's what I think too.
>Just out of the blue
Yeah, again I'm not really sure why.
>I'd ask more but I'm not fond of prying
That's okay anon, I like to answer questions and mostly tell anyone anything they want to know if their nice.
Have a good day/evening/night informative anon

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I am murifag living in a european town where being gay is very very much looked down upon.
Femboy is in my group of friends.
Voice never dropped.
Slim and cute face and eyes.
He never even shows interest in girls.
I am certain if he lived in a place where he were exposed to different sexualities he would be curious but since he not I bet even someone who seems so incredibly queer as him would react disgusted if I approached him.
I feel really bad because I don't usually have such feelings but with this boy it is differnt somehow.

>>8222001
>since he not
*he hasn't been

>>8222001
what country

i hate dodo and circe so fucking muchm I hope they both die

>>8222401
>being this butt flustered about 2 posters on a laotian motorcycle enthusiast board

My esophagectomy is tomorrow morning.
I'm being done a mighty frighten about it.
I hope i don't die in a freak slip up.
Or wake up paralyzed.
Or with complications.
I hope my voice will be ok.
I hope my quality of life won't be shit.

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Quick question would taking Horny goat weed totally fuck up my progress with hrt? I have been talking to a cute guy about it and he says it enhances your mood can prevent bone density from deteriorating and he says can make you precum like a faucet. I doubt the latter claim but the increase in energy would be nice since Mother Nature decided to fuck me and make the only anti androgen I can take be Cypro.

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>>8222946
I hope you die in a freak slip up.
I hope you wake up paralyzed or with complications.
I hope your voice won't be ok.
I hope your quality of life is shit.

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Happy Kawoshin Day, guys!

5/3

>>8222946
good luck :(
try to avoid noxious substances during fugue states in future or something I guess, idk how you can really protect against that shit
are you expecting any long-term issues?

I might lose my welfare money soon which is terrifying because I can't afford rent/food/HRT without it and if it happens I'm probably gonna kill myself because fuck being homeless/starving every day

>>8223221
get a J O B

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>>8223221
How to get autism bux?

>>8224277
What is this? That dude looks like my dad and it's creeping me out.

>>8224277
ew wtf

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>>8224277
>>8224291
>>8224302

>>8224294
420chan eddy the defiler of dads

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>>8224277
M-Mario, did you start dating human bowser?

>>8224461
>implying bowser is that ugly
Guy looks like a goblin sucking on a virgin's teet in some old oil painting.

>tfw no Russian mob boss to suck on your nips and pump your bp
Is it disgusting I'm kinda jealous?

>>8224302
Eh maybe your stud is kinda ugly but whatever, I'm proud of you, you look great and I like what you're doing. Great moves. Keep it up.

How do you know when you're a fem boy and not fully trans? Like does anyone have an answer to this or do I have to live with people telling me the generic "just imagine your future as both" kinda stuff? I really don't know what I am other than knowing I don't want to be masc

>>8225575
Just start transitioning and you'll get a general idea of what it's like being a femboy, it's literally the exact same as being a regular boy except you look prettier. If you were fully trans then you'd probably want to be called she and have a girl's name and receive pink birthday cards instead of blue ones. Idk, I'm the wrong anon to be answering you because I don't care too much about all these labels, it's better just to do what feels right and don't get too caught up about the who what where when why and how

>>8225605
there is no guarantee of looking pretty just because you take female hormones

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Does anyone have suggestions for androgynous clothes suitable for summer? I'm having a hard time finding anything to draw inspiration from. Like every time I try to search for ideas on Pinterest or whatever, it's all just guys in sweaters and women wearing suits.

Please help. It's gets too hot here in the summer for jeans, and I don't want to spend the summer in cargo shorts and t-shirts yet again.

Pic related, that's what came up when I searched "androgynous summer clothes" on Google Images.

>>8225633
You're technically right but I still think it makes boys pretty. I don't ever wanna see an old fat 'femboy' tho, thankfully we're a pretty seclusive group

>>8225710
flannel, T shirt, shorts, espadrilles, sandals? Why not just search up 'summer clothes', you'll get more normal results. Maybe you should steer away from andro (edgy connotations) and start thinking more unisex

>>8225775
>flannel
>summer

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>>8225860
what?

>>8225875
that's a cute boy

>>8224308
So where's the lewd half of the album?

>>8225903
That's a girl anon.

>>8225710
Why don't they get a cute twinky dude or femboi to model this shit rather than make a regular man look like a crossdressing hon.

Femboy in training here, how do I get a bigger ass/become thicc?

>>8226619
>Easy mode: hormones
>Hard mode: squats + oats

>>8226629
I didn't know hormones changed the hips and ass, I'll probably do that instead

>>8218160
>most stylists here are poor white girls from the country who are still very homophobic/transphobic.

Tfw my hair stylist is Asian and is super nice about me wanting my hair in a more feminine style. I'm from Texas and I get along pretty nicely for a femboi (trans in denial) in the south. I'm even getting on HRT soon and I'm super excited.

Just shop around for more stylists and you should eventually find one with a nice personality that works for you. Unless if your area is really as trashy as you say it is. In that case just say fuck it and push onward I guess. I doubt a transphobic hair stylist is really going to harm you. They still have a job to do.

>>8226705
If you are young enough, like under 20 your hip bones might actually expand. Above that is a gamble if it'll have that affect. Otherwise hormones do redistribute your new body fat to a more female pattern, so it'll go to your thighs and butt.

>>8226757
I'm 19 right now so I'll probably get on hormones asap. I've always wanted to give a guy an assjob

Would appreciate some advice guys: is progy and bica a safe combo? Already been on the bica for 3 months. Any idea what this is gonna do to my body?

>>8222964
plz respond bio chem anon

>>8215709
I still don't understand what this general is.
Why are so many people talking about hormones? Do non-transitioning people really take hormones? That can't be healthy.

>>8222946
dont die fag

>>8229546
Yeah it's not safe but still there's no other way desu

>>8229745
No other way to do fucking what?
You could just work out and diet.

>>8229546
yeah its like a 50/50 for if all these cute boys are gonna die of liver failure in 20 years but most seem say they want to kill themselves after 30 anyway, so...

>>8219624
GnRH agonists are something that can be used. Bicalutamide is something that can be used.

>>8222964
>>8228990
I have responded to such things in the past:
https://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/7999643/#q8010863
>The active component of that plant is icariin. It inhibits PDE5, which is the same mechanism of action of most erectile dysfunction (ED) drugs. This is an effect upon the blood vessels, not upon the brain, so it cannot treat loss of sex drive itself, which is the effect that antianndrogens can potentially have. A femboy with primary erectile dysfunction (which eould not be caused by an antiandrogen) would be better off taking a normal ED drug. The icariin also stimulates osteoblast activity via some mechanism, which can help with osteoporosis. Raloxifene would do that more effectively while also fixing the other issues that (essentially) having no sex hormones can cause.

>>8229745
>>8229546
It is perfectly healthy.
>>8229760
There is a low chance of adverse liver effects unless you are an idiot using cyproterone acetate. In any case, a comprehensive metabolic panel will detect any potential liver effects long before actual damage results, this is why it is important to see a doctor, or at the very least get a blood test done on your own.

>>8230225
this is based on studies of middle aged people taking these medications for relatively short periods of time right?

Like not boys mid puberty for decades

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>>8230225
>pumping your body full of random hormones for petty vanity is perfectly healthy
Maybe hit the gym instead of the pharmacy. Or go to /mtfg/.

>>8229546
>I still don't understand what this general is.
It's a place for males who are or want to be feminine or androgynous.
>Why are so many people talking about hormones?
Because that an effective way for a male to attain a more feminine appearance.
>Do non-transitioning people really take hormones? That can't be healthy.
It's no different from a trans person taking them.

>>8230372
Hitting the gym will not fix the femboy issues. Also, we continue to identify as male, so we are not MtF.
>>8230356
For the combination of bicalutamide and raloxifene itself, we know it is safe from prostate cancer patients. In addition, there is no reason why it would not be safe in the young, femboy population as well. Bicalutamide does not usually create problems that estrogens cannot fix, and raloxifene is estrogenic in the areas needed to fix any problems from bicalutamide, while not developing breasts.

>>8230356
>>8230372
Do either of you have any actual information to suggest that this is not safe?

>>8230568
we have as much information to suggest it is *not* safe as you have information to suggest it *is* safe


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i fully support yall taking this shit, if i had a bf who wanted to do it id be all about it, im just being real here

>>8230619
I'm in camp of someone who doesn't care honestly never had a blood test 3 years now.

If I die nothing is really lost plus I can fight masclinity in the small hope I'll remain youthful but if death releases me so be it.

>>8230619
Study on prostate cancer patients using bicalutamide and raloxifene:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/articles/27771244/

Study looking at using SERMs to counter the adverse effects on lipid profile and bone mineral density caused by antiandrogens alone:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2213888/
Study on raloxifene being used to treat gynecomastia in adolescents:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15238910/?i=3&from=gynecomastia%20AND%20raloxifene
Raloxifene being used to treat depression caused by menopause:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20961269/?i=8&from=raloxifene%20AND%20mood&sort=[relevance]
Raloxifene being used to treat cognitive issues caused by menopause:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19918203/?i=14&from=raloxifene%20AND%20cognition&sort=[relevance]
Bicalutamide being used to treat hirsutism: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11915584/?i=3&from=hirsutism%20AND%20bicalutamide

We have similar such articles listed in the Pastebin. The evidence would seem to suggest that the combination of bicalutamde and raloxifene is for certain safe for femboy purposes, and also effective. Do you have an argument against this?

>>8230718
Why do you not get blood tests?

>>8230793
not that anon, but getting blood tests means you have to talk to people about your degeneracy

>>8228763
Don't see why it wouldn't be safe.

>>8231028
was waiting on a reply, thanks, hope not!

>tfw first laser appointment tomorrow
what should I expect?

>>8231250
You should expect getting a laser treatment.

>>8231250
Spread those cheeks like a good girl

>>8230786
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/articles/27771244/
> in 28-day cycles (maximum, 6 cycles)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2213888/
>In a 12-month open-label study
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15238910/?i=3&from=gynecomastia%20AND%20raloxifene
>a 3- to 9-month course
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20961269/?i=8&from=raloxifene%20AND%20mood&sort=[relevance]
>for 3 months
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19918203/?i=14&from=raloxifene%20AND%20cognition&sort=[relevance]
>for 12 months
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11915584/?i=3&from=hirsutism%20AND%20bicalutamide
>6 months


taking ibuprofen daily for a month is probably safe, taking ibuprofen daily for a decade will fuck you up

>>8230793
I'm not transgendered so I'm not going to a therapist or informed consent clinic since the closest one is like thousands of miles away. plus I have horrible social anxiety and fear going outside and dont drive. maybe I should get back on biccalcumide for all I know those hives could have been caused by something else and cypro can fuck up the liver.

>>8231404
A study for 4 years of bicalutamide showing that at the least testes are not harmed:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11260298
Overall risk-benefit ratio of raloxifene found to be favorable for long-term use in menopause:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2971719/#__sec4title

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>>8215709
How close is this to the average femgen?

>>8232510
Sounds about right. What's that from?

How do I get rid of all my body hair easily

>>8232605
bathtub full of veet

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I have a question about shaving techniques
How do you fem anons shave and what are the best ways to do it? I'm not asking for laser advice or other hair removal, just strictly shaving with razors and shaving cream.
I've been doing my whole body once a week for quite a while now and it's just an awful chore to do every week and I'm not even sure if I'm doing it right.
Is there certain razors or cream that helps?
I am thinking of other hair removal since
>shave face
>five o'clock shadow and already growing back the next day
>get mad and give up
These are my razors I use.

>>8232411
Study on bicalutamide for 96 weeks (which is around 1 year and 10 months), on patients with prostate cancer, finding it to be safe:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15126801/?i=11&from=bicalutamide%20AND%20long-term&sort=[relevance]

>>8232510
We do not want to be treated as female, we wish to be treated as enby/male.

>>8232510
oh shit thats me pretty much.

unrelated but I figured I'd share something that happened today. I was going through the flash drives my family owns looking for my old artwork see folder that says artwork click on it nothing but 2-d trap porn look at date saved its when I was 14...welp I guess that means I have AGP

I remember when I was in kindergarten and I kept complaining/asking the teacher why I couldn't marry a boy and she just kept saying "because you can't" and she made me throw away all my drawings of me and my boyfriend.

>>8232605
>>8232616
What this guy said. Be sure to put veet on certain places w different sensitivities first. When I did it first, I burnt the shit out of my armpits and it hurt forever. The second it kind of hurt my penis. Also, to groom don't be afraid to put tape over the part you want to keep. It's also normal to have to shave off some of the dead hair that's still on you. It doesn't make it any less dead and you probs won't get razor burn
>>8232647
Shaving in the shower is good because it makes the little knicks and abrasions not scab over. You're less likely to have razor burn in the shower, but still use cream on your body. I use those razors too btw

>>8230786
Are you serious? It's hard to tell. I don't think you mean poorly, but... It's just hard to tell.

I just came back from my first laser treatment. It went fine, but they said it'll take 6 more treatments, at about one treatment a month. Is it really going to take 6 months for my beard to disappear? How much should be gone this time next month?

>>8233747
I am serious. Why are you confused?

>>8233792
It isn't about you or your hair.
It is about them and their income.
Remember that.

>>8233863
This is unfortunate, but thanks for the speedy response regardless.

>>8232647
I use those expensive 4-5 blade razors. I've pretty much given up on trying to keep my whole body hairless and now only shave once a week (both beard and body). It's just impossible to keep that perfect look, I'm hoping when I start mones that it will slow body hair and beard hair growth down but that's in the future.
I always shave with the grain, and although it won't make me look as smooth and the hair will grow back faster it's better than going against the grain and have razor burn everywhere. Make sure to sit in warm water for a bit to open up the pores and use shaving cream everywhere. That's about all I do and it works pretty well.

>>8234119
How is that unfortunate?

>>8233879
Okay, but what's going to happen in the first month?

Should I get a blood test before taking e? Can I just wing it until I look cuteboy? How much does a blood test cost?

>>8232605
>>8232616
use nads on your nads
veet/nair hurt me like fuck but nads was just fine, dunno why

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>>8232510
Please for the love of god sauce me up fampai. I need more trans manga in my life and can't keep rereading Hourou Musuko. Also is pic related from the same manga? Can't find the source on it.

>>8234279
>everyone_in_femgen.png

>>8232647
>shaving your entire body regularly
Jesus, no. Women can do this because their hair is finer and grows slower. As a guy, you'll spend half of your life between shaving and uncomfortable ugly stubble.
I would highly recommend just shaving your face every morning (your 5 o'clock shadow likely isn't noticeable outside of bathroom lighting) and only shaving your body when you think it's going to matter.
Alternately, start waxing or using hair removal cream, depending on how sensitive your skin is.

>>8218130
Learn to cut it yourself. Take some time to really know what you want from pictures, then watch some YouTube tuts for techniques (using hairdressing scissors), then try them... carefully, until you get good ^^.

Advice to start is to look into layers, and how to cut a fringe/bangs.

Biggest tip is to always cut less than you think. You can trim more if needed, but you can't put it back on ^^

Source: Have been cutting my own fem hair for a looooong time (wanted to be a hairdresser at one point, go figure).

Good luck, anon

>>8234208
Google: "Private blood test {insert_country}"

You can usually be sent a kit that you send back and get results online.

Though most people will be fine with the standard 4-6mg Estro, 200mg Spiro routine.

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visualmagick.blogspot.com/2017/05/taoist-sexual-practices-and-sexual.html?m=1

>tfw never be a white tigress and rejuvinate my youth.

How do I got about finding a third trap or woman to fuck with my boyfriend?

Are americans really not allowed in the discord? :/

>>8235894
They let in whoever they like; what you are/where's you're from is irrelevant to them.

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Hey guys, i made it.
Hurts like a bitch tho

>>8236837
cut your hair

>>8234162
The shaved hair will grow for 1-2 weeks, then start falling out and getting patchy until all the lasered hair falls out. You'll be hairless for another ~3 weeks or so until new hairs start to grow. These new hairs may or may not be thinner but expect less over a longer period of time and multiple treatment.

source: have brazilian laser

>>8236837
sweet
do you have to avoid swallowing til it heals properly, how does that work?

>>8232411

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2971719/#__sec4title
>Overall risk-benefit ratio
but these women are at risk of hip and other bone fractures so the increased risk of blood clots and stroke are acceptable
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18278183
femboys do not have an increased risk of bone fractures so they are assuming the increased risk of clots/stroke for...

>>8234208
considering the stakes price shouldnt matter, you cant unfuck your body

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After 3 months in the discord here is my list of the cutest boys (no particular order):
cuteboysandcats
soda
aphex
ghostie
helix
the russian kid
swimp
thistle
ethan
yeti
AB
pup amaro

sooooo cute UWU

>>8237971
Ur a fucking retard

>>8238290
thought her penis was supposed to have been damaged?

>>8238290
STOP THIS. Circe is NOT /ourguy/. Tell him to trim that pubic hair because no matter how much it matches his greasy tangled mop it's still fucking disgusting.

Anyone know how often you should get laser hair removal?
Would it be like every week?

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tfw smoking is disgusting but makes you look cool so you do it anyway

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>>8238302
/ourguy/ circe working you into a shoot brother GOAT stay mad femfag. /ourguy/ is here to stay

>>8217576
if they are they just need a good dicking.

>>8238704
Lol genuinely thought that was Circe, and even after I still thought it was at least his dick

Any tips regarding getting a cage?

>>8238752
/ourguy/ changing the rules of sexuality gender and just basically shes the best.


Works the trannies works the fems works the tryhard mascs works your dick GOAT


G O A T
O
A
T

Im telling best shitpisters caraposter tham circe shes the king.

>>8238290
>pubes
Hot

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I never thought id be saying this but it has to be said...is circe...dare i say it.../ourguy/?

>is beautiful
>has a thriving colorful sex life with many different flavors expierencing all life has to offer
>does not jewish made concepts like feminity and masculinity hold them down
>isnt white so very exotic
>completelt bold even posting with a trip to show shes proud of their posts
>nonviolent and a sweetheart princess just like how femboys should be
>takes the most abuse yet gets up and keeps fighting
>prettier than you
>is very controversial... you either love em or hate em but you dont ignore them
>works you marks into a shitposting frenzy
>made zombo act like a child and they just ignored it
>legitimately good person
> not on hrt
>is hope that anyone can be a femboi


Face it shes our guy.

>>8237753
A femboy would be at a higher risk for that while on an antiandrogen. Of course, they would not have that risk if they did not take the antiandrogen in the first place. I recall it being the case that the sum total of all the effects of normal MtF cross-sex HRT increases lifespan, much how biological females not on cross-sex HRT have a longer lifespan than biological males not on cross-sex HRT. So then there is the issue of determining if the same holds true for bicalutamide and raloxifene. Of course, this combination would decrease your risk of breast cancer and prostate cancer, while normal MtF HRT decrease your risk of prostate cancer as well while increasing your chances of breast cancer. I will attempt to search through the research literature to determine it. There would not exist data specifically on the femboy case, these drugs have not even existed longer enough to measure the end result upon lifespan with a femboy starting it at 18, but reasonable inferences could likely be made from other data, to require data until the data for this exact type of case in particular on these exact drugs would be applying a much more strict standard of evidence than it typically used in medicine.

Anyway, I would like to thank you for continuing to debate this with me, it is not often that I have someone else with enough knowledge to actually debate stuff like this with me in this thread.

>>8238918
*decreases your risk
*to require data until death for

>>8238908
>> not on hrt
why not!?

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>tfw little over a week of hrt
>already developing breasts
I'm not sure I want this feel. I would order Raloxifene to prevent breast growth but inhousepharmacy doesnt ship to my country. Should I stop hrt until I can somehow get Ralo or just accept being a boi with conetits?

>>8238959
How the fuk do they grow so fast?

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>>8239004
I don't know, anon. It surprised me too. I remember vividly a post here on femgen a few weeks back of some femboy who had breasts sticking through his two layers of sweaters after a month of hrt and I'm not sure this is the road I want to go really.

>>8238959
You're on hrt, you're a tranny...

If you didn't want tits, get OFF hrt and just be a femboy.

And stop spelling it 'boi'. Christ.

>>8224302
Is he autistic? Why is this even allowed?

>>8239016
Stop giving a fuck or throw yur pills away.

>>8239016
I had mine start growing maybe the end of week 2 on a low does. If they make you feel better mental and psychical wise, keep popping them. Besides boiboobs are cute.

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>>8239016
3 months in on bica only and am forming breasts. I was gonna take ralox too but I've decided not to bother. Odds are I won't grow big tits, but what I do get I will probably want to keep.

>>8239464
Why that picture m8

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>>8239110
It's something I'll have for the rest of my life though..
>>8239208
>If they make you feel better mental and psychical wise, keep popping them.
Difficult to say but I have been crying more the past few days.
>Besides boiboobs are cute.
Yes but if they are obvious it certainly won't make my life easier. I'm not sure how well a sports bra would hide them either

>>8238373
>tfw don't want to smoke tobacco because gross but smoke weed and nigger friends always want to smoke blunts over joints

>>8239525
>It's something I'll have for the rest of my life though..
I'm pretty sure your hormone levels will sort of balance out and your conetits will go away for the most part.

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>>8239525
I cried a lot before hrt, I find its more controllable now in a sense and I know when its coming.
It might make you look odd but you can always hide them. I kinda like the weird mixed gender feel people view me as.
>>8240316
I'm a vape fag and can't seem to quit, I did cold turkey for 6 weeks then lost it when I had some major living changes.

>>8238941
see >>8236837 and related

>>8239464
Bica and nothing else isn't sustainable long term. You'll be good for, what, maybe 2-3 years, 5+ if you're lucky, but after that you'll start getting the symptoms of low sex hormones, bone issues etc. 'd suggest you weigh risks up carefully and consider adding e or ralox at some point in the future.

>>8241738
>>8239464
Bicalutamide alone would be fine if the bicalutamide had gotten your levels of estrogen into the normal female range, which is unlikely, but it would be fine if a blood test shows that.

>>8238826
Shameful bump

>>8221557
>>8229760
>>8230225

what are some things i can say to bullshit my doctor into giving me a liver test?

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>>8242943
>Hey doc, I'm taking meds that I ordered from a gray market online pharmacy so that I can look pretty. Am I going to die of liver failure?

What a time we live in.

>>8238826
>>8242879
Like a dog cage?

>>8218093
I haven't used shampoo in over 6 months

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>>8243312

>be me
>be 22
>still not on hrt (almost got therapist approval so I can go the official route)

So I want to nuke the fuck out of my T and Cypro seems like a decent idea. I don't mind the effects such as boob growth and chemical castration so I'm really considering it. Anyone else have any luck with Cypro or am I better off taking Spiro or Bica for health reasons?

>>8243994
Cypro is kinda dangerous. Spiro is a povvo drug and should never be prescribed. Bica > all

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>>8224277
>>8224291
>>8224302
>>8224308
holy shit there's hope for all of us

>>8243996
Yeah I'll stay far away from Spiro for sure since that seems like common knowledge now. What if I took Cypro for a while then switched to Bica later on? I really want to get some of the feminine benefits from Cypro such as fat redistribution.

>>8244087
Estrogen will give you fat redistribution.

ive been on spiro for 5 years. should i switch to cypro? why is spiro bad?

>open thread
>might as well be /hormones/
No thanks I like being male and sane.

>>8245297
we tried, so many times
we made a pastebin with all the hrt info, we let people come into the discord and ask questions, we don't trip and we kick out mtfs.
but they just. won't. stop. asking. about. hormones.
it can't be done. these retarded faggots will shit up the thread until the end of time.

>>8245475
Well whatever, /cb/ sucks, dating sites suck, this here sucks, the other discord communities I've seen suck and the stuff I haven't seen probably suck too. I guess online is just bad in general. Befriend the few genuinely nice people and just talk with them personally.

I feel like fully transitioning is too much bullshit and doesn't guarantee passing. If I prefer female pronouns but I accept the fact the I'll never be a woman and I'm content with being androgynous what am I?

>>8245576
femgen's discord is really nice. the other discords on /lgbt/ are comparatively garbage

>>8243994
>>8244087
>>8244640
This discussion belongs on >>>/lgbt/hrtgen
That thread isn't specific to trans people. There are other femboys and nonbinary people there who can answer your questions.

>>8245725
Anatomic AGAMP and behavioral AGP. So, slightly more trans than most femboys.

>>8246267
But I'm androphiliac, so does AGP still apply?

Is there a site to find androgynous males (not brainwashed trannies or sex grandpas) in Germany?

>>8246282
Pseudobisexuality.

>>8246362
Oh, you're that poster. I suppose you're going to tell me it's a result of meta-attraction too?

>>8246391
What poster?

And yes, pseudobisexuality is a form of meta-attraction.

>>8246999
Blanchard poster. I'm gonna call y'all the 12 Apostle's of Blanchard.

Does anyone else in /femgen/ have experience getting off hormones? I was on them for 6 months, but I stopped using them a few months ago because I figured it would be best to wait until I move out for college since it was getting hard to hide. Since then I've noticed that I feel very numb to emotion, get bad body odor that I've never had before, and I just feel shittier in general. Did I fuck my body over? I figured it would self correct after awhile, but this is making me think about how seriously dependent we might be making ourselves on these pills.

>>8248988
>seriously trans we might be making ourselves on these pills.
ftfy
Taking HRT is not an aesthetic choice, it has strong effect on you mentally more than anything so it should be a fairly decisive choice. Have you bloods done? Your body probably doesn't produce enough testosterone anymore and the human body needs normal levels of one sex hormone in order to function properly...

>>8248988
It might correct itself over time but were you really not prepared for an eventuality that you might hinder your bodies testosterone production?

>>8248988
What drugs were you taking? Have you gotten a blood test?

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Do I look like a femboy?

>>8249122
You look like pre-hormones blaire white

>>8249029
>>8249054
I understand the permanance of taking them but I guess I underestimated how well your body can fix itself. Also, I wouldn't have thought that getting off them would put you in a worse state than before you started them, making me wonder what happens if you stop taking them 20 years down the line.

>>8249070
Spiro and progy. No blood test but it would be interesting to see.

>>8249132
Well you for sure should not be taking AAs for 20 years. They harm your liver, they're only for use until you get an orchiectomy.

>>8249122
with a nosejob you'd look cute, with ffs you'd look andro

>>8243280
lel
>>8249132
id defer to bioanon if he has data that says otherwise but these drugs actually increase amount of testosterone in your body amongst the other shit they do so once you off of them your test levels might remain elevated (for a while?)

>>8249122
fix your shitty hair

>>8249668
That is for bicalutamide and raloxifene. The drugs that >>8249132 was taking block the production of testosterone, so it would indeed go down. Some user has stated before that estrogen can start to have a more long-lasting effect after a while. A blood test could be used to see if this is the case. If it is so, then you would either have to take estrogen, testosterone, or a SERM then to avoid the adverse effects of no sex hormones, if a blood test were to show that. If you take a SERM, then 60 mg/day of raloxifene would be the best, although a SERM would possibly get rid of the breasts that you already have, I do not know how they would impact potential future breast development.

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Gonna buy some Nair Tommarrow
Any tips for use, or should i buy wax strips instead
>pic unrelated

>>8254688
nair is shitty.
Just make your own sugar wax, or buy an epilator.

>>8254713
why

>>8254780
Nair just makes a mess and leaves a ton of stubble.
At least if you epilate it grows thinner over time as well since it damages the hair follicle. Even if it doesn't result in a permanent removal it at least makes the hair softer and less noticeable.

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Can one of you femboys take a photo like this?

>>8243294
chastity cage

How can I convince my mtf boyfriend that I like him the way he is and he shouldn't start HRT because it will only ruin his body and amplify his depression while deteriorating his mental health?

>>8249122
Need to fix your skin

>>8255471
Good morning all you cite little femboys. I live north of the GTA in Ontario canada approx 50 min. I have some girl clothes from when I used to trap.
I don't see myself wearing anything more than the loose t shirts and panties but can't bring myself to trash bag the clothes when they could make someone else cute too.

I'm just leaving this here to check back when I get home so I'll list what I have to offer so people aren't stuck waiting. All clothes are S/M size
1 A cup bra (grey with pink trim)
1 teal bikini top and bottom set
2 dresses, one black the other a black red with sewn on buttons and a floral pattern.
3 outfits;
Red riding hood: hood, dress, sash thing
Darque school girl; Google it, it's not hard to find.
Maid outfit; dress, white sash/apron thing, the what is it... doily?

It's nice to help others ^~^

>>8255774
Photos of the clothing please?

>>8255797
I can't atm :< what happened to imagination

>>8255801
>what happened to imagination
Died of dysphoria.

>>8255802
I wish I could remember the name of the shop I got the red and black dress from to link.
Very nice small shop near barrie waterfront. Easy to buy/lie when I still had a female friend with the same body size as me

Use a revive on your imagination

Girlfriend said I can keep sissys. How do I go about getting one?

>>8255854
Spam on femgen

>>8255858
So just make a "LF: Sissy boytoy" post once a day and I'll get one eventually?

>>8255862
I mean, maybe?
Spam your other locales too

>>8255866
What other locales? I'm new to the concept of keeping a male concubine.

Why do I keep getting erect when I stretch my muscles '^'?

>>8255870
Lgbt
Pol
Online vidya (do sissies even leave the house?)
B
That's all I got.

>>8255876
>/pol/ and /b/
>not /r9gay/ where there is always at least one trap thread

>>8255877
I've never been to r9k
B always has at minimum 2 trap/femboy/she male threads
Pol is a bunch if closet fags that want to be dominated

>>8255877
>>8255931
I also found a long distance sissy boi via wowcraft. He masturbate and calls me master at 3am ^~^

Should I go to a doctor to become fem, or will it be hard to explain? I'm not interested in a full transition, but I want to look more androgynous/feminine. Would I still develop breasts, and would my nipples be sensitive? I would only want like an A cup or barely budding breasts, something easy to manage/hide. 19 btw

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>>8255992
When i was your age i just took care of myself in a way that i thought would help me fem up

>>8256051
that diet advice is so shit tier

eggs and meat are healthy foods that everyone should eat (unless you have some moral objection or something)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BT3ruVYBvnb/?taken-by=stavstrashko

Stav Strashko is DEFINITELY on estrogen now, just look at her last few pics

>>8256199
she'll be out as MtF within the next 18 months, mark my words

>>8256199
>>8256204
it's already been official for a few months, that interview last year made her just sound genderqueer or something but all her profiles and stuff have been changed to female pronouns exclusively and she's obviously on standard HRT now

http://www.vogue.com/article/proenza-pre-fall-2017-model-stav-strashko-israeli-transgender-model

kind of a shame to see more femboy representation snatched away again, same as with Pejic, but at least she'll be happier now

>>8256271
almost like femboys are just repressing trannies :^)

>>8256276
I've met enough IRL to know that there are some that are repressing MtFs but they're in the minority, most are genuinely just cute neotenous flamers with no desire to transition past taking T-blockers

now, if you wanna make the argument that being a femboy is a subsection of the non-binary umbrella, then you probably have a decent argument, because the fear of masculinisation almost all those I've met experience can definitely be seen as gender dysphoria- but most of them are equally disgusted and unhappy with the thought of having female traits like boobs or being gendered female, so not MtF

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who is the best femboy to cosplay??? for research purposes

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What's the best way to retuck in public when there's nowhere to hide?

>>8257154
go to the bathroom

>>8255992
Going to a doctor would be a good idea, an informed consent clinic might have more experience with dealing with nonbinary patients, which you essentially are. The normal way is taking an antiandrogen and an estrogen, you would develop breasts from that. It is possible to have surgery to remove the breast buds before starting cross-sex HRT, then they should not grow at all. Another option is to use an antiandrogen (such as bicalutamide) and then a SERM, selective estrogen receptor modulator, to avoid the adverse effects of (essentially) no sex hormones from the antiandrogen, you would not develop breasts, although feminization elsewhere would be uncertain. Alternating between an estrogen and a SERM is sometimes done, to try to keep breasts at a reasonable amount while trying to have feminization elsewhere.

>>8241738
Starting progy soon, appreciate the concern though!

>>8255876
>>8255877
All the shit boards great.

>>8256088
Yes, though don't eat too many eggs (3-5 per day max, and not every single day) because of avidin making your hair thin and making it fall out much more.

>>8257643
Actually cook your food first to denature the protein.

>>8257135
these are ones ive been considering in no particular order

1.Griffith
2.Gwendolyn
3.Link (gerudo outfit if possible)
4. Kawarou
6. Shinji
7. Alois Trancy
8. Hideyoshi
9. desire
10. Kanato

probably 2 tall for all of these

>>8257742
depends on how you cook em though

like i do mine over easy and i dont flip em so theres still some undercooked egg white on top

but mostly you are correct, i think most people cook their shit more thoroughly than me

>>8257154
Sauce?

>still no cute femboy boyfriend to dress up in girly outfits and cherish
It's not fair.

This is an lgbt emotional support group.

https://discord.gg/Az82T

>>8259216
Some book that helps parents teach autistic teens not to masturbate in public. Ellie something

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>>8260059
>>8259216

>>8260090
Every day we stray further from God's light.

I'm sure this question gets asked a lot, but what does /femgen/ do about hair removal?
Shaving is right out with coarse, thick, fast-growing guy hair.
I'm using a depilatory cream right now which is fine (thanks to my tough-as-nails skin) and mostly effective, but it doesn't seem practical or safe for full-body usage.
I've considered waxing, but I can't decide between hot/cold/hard varieties, or if it's a particularly smart idea to wax your balls. I could go get it done somewhere, but I have neither the money or confidence for that.

What do? It's hard to feel cute with a fucking jungle down there.

>>8260111
lighter fluid and a match. for real though, depilatory creams or powders are your best choice, unless you want to get laser. waxing/sugaring/epilation just aren't worth the pain.

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Can I still be a femboy if I'm 39 and have tits?

I still fuck college muscle boys if like that's a determining factor

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Does anyone have any tips or advice for hair? Like to help stop fading color or to help its damage. Some tips on to help my face seem more slim and cute would also be helpful

So femgen is still a bunch of edgy teenagers trying to be cute but are not able to admit they are full on faggots. At least Hitler accepted his twinky faggot life why haven't you idiots

>>8262611
You cannot be a femboy when you have tits

You are trans

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>>8262661
Fuck that shit

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>>8262611
>39
>has tits
>wants to be a femboy

>>8262870
he's a sad case honestly

>>8261588
Laser is worth, but you're just abitch if you can't handle the pain of waxing/epilating

>>8262870
We'll all be there someday.

>>8262955
IDK about you but I'm not growing tits anytime soon

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hey boys

is this a good femboy body?

>>8263355
Maybe
The hairy arms look disgusting and make me think of my abusive dad tbqh

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>>8262611
Loved you in Z Nation tbqh pham

>>8263047
But the rest, being 39 and wanting to be a femboy.

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>>8263367
yeah, I shoud shave them. but I'm scared of people noticing

>>8263437
But if you don't shave your arms, senpai may never notice you tbqh.

>>8263437
why would you care if people notice you shave your arms?
straight men shave their arms.
they get waxed because they don't want to look like a werewolf.
it doesn't mean you're trans.
it's all the feminine clothing and behavior that make people think you're trans.
not your shaved arms.

>>8237971
>tfw on the list

>>8263355
yeah hips are pretty nice

An antagonist for the cardiolipin-binding region of alpha-synuclein could potentially be used as a treatment for Parkinson's disease.

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>>8263811

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>>8263821
These should help explain:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22155643
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25319443

saw a femboy with a cis gf out in town today
there's hope for you guys dw

>>8263355
wew
nice hips

>>8263437
who cares
it's cute
you're cute
own it bruh otherwise what is even the point?

Faye my Faye

You stupid faye

You give me the biggest fattest most awkward boners whenever i make the mistake of thinking of you

They're very noticeable, yes they stare.

Fuck you faye

Please my faye, make my day

and say oh say, my lovely faye

you'll let me in that sweet backdoor

I'll go so slow

and kiss you soft

my stupid Faye

i hate you so.

>>8264102
beanboy strikes again

>>8264117
come to LA love im 21 now so i can legally buy hard liquor lelelele went into a 7/11 and bought two beers 4 minutes after turning 21

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>>8263437
I recognize that hat!

>>8264130
sek sunlight pinhead

>>8263355
cuuuuuuuuutte

you take hrt at all?

>>8263047
good plan cone tits suck anon.

>>8263432
>tfw approaching gay death and its horrible I just wanna stay cute.

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What does /femgen/ use to get rid of their leg/pubic hair?

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>>8264249
>people dont use magic shave

seriously we need to sticky this shit for all gaymen.

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What do you people think of the issue of bicalutamide and raloxifene, metabolism, and appetite?
>>8264124

>>8263546
t-true
>>8263769
>>8263863
>>8263871
thank you!
>>8264200
thanks :3 no hrt yet, hopefully soon
>>8264143
nice catch, anon!

post some cuties for me to gush at

fuzzytrunk.tumblr.com

>>8263355
lichen?
fuck you so much imma murder you for dem rafs

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>>8264249
I shave my legs and use pic related on my upper thighs, butt, and pubic hair. I don't like using a depilatory on my legs because it's messy.
>>8264279
I haven't studied biochemistry. Skimming Wikipedia, it looks like glucocorticoids stimulate the appetite and cause fat deposits in the abdomen, so I guess antiglucocorticoids would decrease appetite and fat deposits in the abdomen. Is that correct?

>>8264279
Sexual dimorphism in basal metabolic rate is entirely due to differences in non-fat mass and fat mass. If those are the same, then sex is irrelevant to basal metabolic rate. So, the issue of how bicalutamide and raloxifene is reducible to the issue of how they effect the total amount of non-fat mass and fat mass.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16280423/?i=16&from=basal%20metabolic%20rate%20AND%20sex&sort=[relevance]

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>>8265082
For reference: >pic related

>>8265105
>>8265082
For reference, while the article does say that T4 levels can impact basal metabolic rate, that does not vary by sex, except for the fact that pregnancy can impact values, so the only mechanism by which cross-sex HRT can effect basal metabolic rate is via effect non-fat and fat mass.

>>8265629
And there are some other issues.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26503109/?i=1&from=bicalutamide%20AND%20fat
In that study of ADT in Japanese prostate cancer patients, blood tests of lipid and glucose metabolism changed significantly. What we are looking at here, the change in fat mass, was a significant increase. Of course, the fact that the study was looking at patients on antigonadotropics is a severe limitation, as they would not have the antiglucocorticoid from testosterone that we still have, only being on a low dose of bicalutamide. In addition, we know that taking raloxifene would improve lipid profile, and the study did not look at raloxifene, so it is possible that raloxifene would impact fat mass as well. I will try looking back at the studies of bicalutamide and raloxifene at the same time, to see how that effects fat.

>>8265678
The study on using bicalutamide and raloxifene at the same time in prostate cancer patients does not metion fat, but it references another study that might have useful information here.

>>8265916
Bicalutamide alone does increase fat mass, but not as much as antigonadotropics: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15226323/?i=11&from=bicalutamide%20AND%20fat

>>8265952
Bicalutamide has similar effects to antigonadotropics on fat-free mass: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15126801/?i=12&from=bicalutamide%20AND%20fat

>>8265965
In postmenopausal females, raloxifene improved lipid profile and significantly decrease fat mass compared to the control group.

However, there was something else in the study that might be of interest to femboys:
>These results [...] suggest [...] that RLX [raloxifene] promotes the shift from android [male-typical] to gynoid [female-typical] fat distribution
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16218045/?i=11&from=raloxifene%20AND%20fat&sort=[relevance]

>>8266013
In postmenopausal females, raloxifene increased fat-free mass:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19884264/

>>8266013
Please note, the change was specifically in the trunk and abdominal area, overall there is no change seen in fat mass in postmenopausal females on raloxifene, as seen in >>8266013 and >>8266029.

In >>8266029 fat-free mass increased by 1.9% in postmenopausal females taking raloxifene. In >>8265965 fat-free mass decreased by 1.56% in prostate cancer patients taking bicalutamide. That would seem to indicate that the two should approximately counter each other out to no net effect upon fat-free mass. Of course, they are two separate patient populations, but this should be approximately the case.

>>8263437
nice rafs and cps my guy

>>8265952
Increase in fat mass in bicalutamide was 6.4%, compared to 30% in a normal MtF case:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=43*%5Bvolume%5D+AND+1016%5Bpage%5D+AND+2008%5Bpdat%5D+AND+Lapauw+B%5Bauth%5D&cmd=DetailsSearch
Raloxifene would seem to have little effect upon total fat mass in postmenopausal females, so likely none here: >>8266103.

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>>8264249
shave.

Home laser kit or electrolysis?
I have patchy facial hair and it grows way to slow to shave everyday.

>>8264258
I was think that that was a catboy, but when you look at the bottom, that character seems to have breasts, indicating that it is likely a catgirl.

>>8238941
genetically circe is actually non-binary

new
>>8267097
>>8267097

>>8264900
It doesn't seem to work for me, mixed it one to one as it says (kinda hard to even get the powder to mix with water) and tested 4 minutes, 4 and a half and then 5 minutes (not the same spot obviously) and nothing happened at all, it just stinks because of the sulfur.