/ftmg/ - female to male general

>>8202560
I don't hate my hair colour.

>>8202572
>tfw ywn be one of those cis girls who just pretends to be ftm so her topless photos don't get deleted off of facebook

>>8202591
post your hair dude

>>8202572
disgusting why just why

Whats an AAP
like the opposite of AGP?

>>8202715
yes

>>8202713
hah why? It's not my hair just the colour and it's just dark brown which I prefer to blond or ginger is all.

>>8202715
The OPPOSITE of AGP is allosexuality. The REVERSE of AGP is AAP.

>>8202776
Your autism will get you far, young tranny

>>8202572
Any other vegetarian that always desperate to get protien for muscle growth?

>>8202572
Can update your links? They kind of suck. Maybe add some links on getting on hormones or some shit.

>>8202895
>getting on hormones
it's very difficult to do without going through official channels, which is probably why there's no information on it.

>>8202776
the OPPOSITE of REVERSE is FORWARD
(never straight)

>>8202851
plants have more than enough protein for muscle growth. The whole obsession with "gotta have muh meat for protein" is a myth by the food and dairy industry to prop up their industrial food machine.

>>8202895
This, I'm going to see what I can put together

>>8203007
spot the vegan

>>8203072
not true, and not relevant. Thanks for the (you) though.

>>8203007
Lol I just keep track of my food intake and have noticed that I get minimum protien because I'm vegetarian. But I still get decent protien obsessing over shoving dairy in my mouth whenever I can.

>>8202851
My go tos are Quinoa and Lentils

>>8202851
vegan memes aside, just buying vegan protein powder is piss easy

i get it from bulkpowders.co.uk, i don't know if they ship internationally but i'm sure local counterparts should be available anywhere civilised

>>8203180
It is soy, tho, isn't it?
And I heard soy is a pseudo-estrogen that interferes with T.
Whey protein works if you're Ovo-Lacto

>>8202703

idk why she'd behave exactly the way she did, i'm just saying i wouldn't have assumed any of that meant she wanted a relationship... and technically you were just doing those things with a friend...

Hey /tttt/ I'm new here, I've been lurking for I'd say a little less then a month, I've been facing a lot of dysphoric feelings for the last 6 months or so but haven't been bold enough to see a therapist, based on the threads here I'm wondering if I should even remotely think about transitioning or if I should just try to get over these feelings. I'm 28, but I look young and somewhat feminine. Is there any chance at all or am I doomed to be hon? Do I give up or should I go see that therapist and maybe start the process? pls no bully.

>>8203219
So, what to you is the line between two friends and two people who have feelings for each other (not necessarily a relationship but it's going that way, let's say). At what point would I have been safe to assume this was moving away from friendship?

Also, led on was the wrong term to use, I just meant did I have reason to suspect this could have gone somewhere

>>8203234
wrong thread love. this is female to male, not male to female.

>>8203255
Weak it took me like 45 minutes to post that. Thanks for point it out though.

>>8202895
It depends on your area, really. Post your general location and see if any anons can help?
I have a whole list of providers and shit for Texas if anyone wants it typed up.

>>8203219

+ unless there's been a legit discussion and shit's been defined there's no reason to assume a relationship is gonna be part of the equation... idk, that's not how i'd see it and you made some of that sound like it might've been her sense of humour + like she just wanted your attention and reassurance...

>>8202851
Dairy, if you're not vegan.
Plus there's always protein powders.

>>8203253

to me what defines a relationship is just the mutual commitment level and some level of intimacy that you don't allow other people... for me that's just not shit like sex (aside from some specific fetishes) or even feelings to an extent... that and the responsibility towards one another and mutual future goals...

also the word change means everything... and idk, it might've... depends on the kinda person she is and how spending that time together went... you said she's independent and was coming out of a break up i don't see why she'd want to jump into the commutment side of a relationship necessarily... hard call though

>>8203301
Thanks for the insight. I am wondering, especially given what you've said, if I should have left it longer. The reason I felt the urge to do it is because I was scared she would get with someone else - her sister told me she seems to always want to be in a relationship, and I knew she was looking up guys on tinder. I don't know whether she just wanted to fuck though, or get with them, because she did already have a fuck buddy. But, yeah I guess that was what scared me to act sooner rather than later. And because I wanted to be able to do stuff - not sex, just kissing.

Maybe if I go back and am more patient we can make something happen, idk

Antiviolence anon is back.

My personal limit is physical violence towards another human, and irreversible damage to property (though protecting humans will always take priority to protecting property, in my book). I am actively opposed to shit like burning cars and smashing windows, but if I'm opposed to grafitti it's not because it's "property damage" but because it tends to be inefficent activism. Of course, this is a subjective limit, and just where I set my boundraries. I can see property damage being justified in a way I cannot see violence towards a person, even if I'm not personally going to defend it.

I also want to point out, again, that my opposition to violence is ideological, and I do recognize that sometimes it is an useful tool to Get Shit Done due to how our society functions, but I will still never defend it and I don't think that violence is what will prove to be what delivers in the long run.
Also, @ my fellow swede:

Om du bor i Stockholmsområdet, kontakta SÖS och HBT-hälsan, pronto. Om du bor utanför Stockholm är det ännu viktigare. Det tog två år från att jag först kom i kontakt med en terapist till att jag fick min första dos T, och jag bor i Stockholm och hade varit ute sen jag var typ fjorton. Det finns krav på att du ska ha levt som ditt föredragna kön i typ två år innan du ens kan få hormoner, så det är bara att ta tjuren i hornen. Prata med din lokala ungdomsmottagning (förutsatt att de är HBT-certifierade) så borde de kunna hjälpa.

>>8203234
Wrong thread or not we're all trannies here, so if you want a piece of advice try HRT even just for the mental effects. See if it makes you feel better, regardless of passability for now. You can see a therapist too, to talk about what you think you wanna do and discuss further options\clear your mind. But if you get on HRT now you'll avoid further masculinization at least, even if then you can't pass you won't age like a man.

>>8202851
Eggs, peanut butter, tofu. Cheap, easy to prepare, and tasty. First two are especially good for snacks, and will fuel you better than carbs anyways.

Many frozen/packaged meat analogues are also high in protein, but they're often pricey and extra salty.

>>8203301

commitment* my bad...

>>8203360

idk that you should go back necessarily, but it's possible it would've gone further had you stayed and done shit that would've made you both closer...

it's up to you, but i mean... if she's always looking (and it sounds like she is even when in a relationship) than that's potentially just what she's like... it doesn't sound like you necessarily want that...

i think if you were the fuck around, have fun and not take it too seriously type then it'd be one thing... but you're not and i don't think you being cautious was necessarily wrong considering...

you know her better though... it just sounds like you might've dodged a bullet to me

>>8203386

fair enough... i get your view, and like i said i think people like you are crucial so i respect it... i just wondered where your lines were cuz some people consider violence against inanimate objects on par with it on people... which i admitedly don't get, your view makes sense to me...

though i just see violence against civillians as something to be avoided as best as possible... with property damage i see that as a necessary thing depending on the goal, sometimes taking out places is good strategy or sends a message you know?

What's having a male identity like? I'm XY but I'm agender. I'm not out as agender - nor am I ever planning to come out - and I haven't asked any guys in real life "what is it like being man". Can you imagine a bearded gorilla of a """man""" (me) going up to a cis guy and asking that? Are cis men even equipped to answer? It feels like cis people never think about their own gender. It's probably like asking a native Japanese speaker what it's like to be fluent in Japanese. They wouldn't be be able to produce an answer. So yeah, what the fuck is being a man like?

>>8203066
I got bored but I put together something for binding info:

Places to purchase:
http://www.t-kingdom.com
http://www.lesloveboat.com/shop/
http://www.f2mbinders.com
https://www.gc2b.co
Place to donate + request binders for those in need: http://point5cc.com/chest-binder-donation/
Information: http://i.imgur.com/aEdOqM7.png
Reviews: https://chestbinders.wordpress.com

And I wrote down some notes on what information we should have:

Hormones:
Expected process in north America and uk - types of application – effects and expected timeframe

Top surgery:
Techniques w/ pros and cons – surgeons – photos – scar care

Prosthetics:
Products – reviews – websites to purchase – care guides

Bottom surgery :
Options and techniques – personal accounts – surgeon websites

Other surgery:
Facial surgery info and surgeon websites – body sculpting info and surgeon websites

Extra:
Name change info – clothes guide – hair guide – timeline photos – voice training – facial hair - skincare

I might try to add some websites in tomorrow

>>8203572
oh and our discord

>>8203572
http://www.ftmguide.org/index.html

Good place for a lot of the things you mentioned that didn't have links. The different pages could be linked under your categories.

>>8203572

Helping a bit more. Still needs a lot more links or maybe we need a fucking google document lmao
Hormones:

Types of hormones/effects/risks:
- https://apps.carleton.edu/campus/gsc/assets/hormones_FTM.pdf
- http://www.ftmguide.org/ttherapybasics.html

Expected process in USA(+):
- http://www.thetransitionalmale.com/steps.html
- (need better links than that one that explains the new informed consent path)

Timelines:
Wish the original link still worked cause finding a group of timelines in one link wont be easy unless someone makes a tumblr gaytard page and we link the tag?


Top surgery:
- http://www.ftmguide.org/chest.html
- http://www.topsurgery.net/surgeons/
- http://transguys.com/features/scar-care


Prosthetics:
I hate these so someone else can give links...

Bottom surgery :
Hysterectomy
- http://www.ftmguide.org/hysto.html
- http://www.hysto.net/
Genital Reconstruction Surgery
- http://www.ftmguide.org/grs.html
- http://www.metoidioplasty.net/
- http://www.phallo.net/

Other surgery:
- http://www.ftmsurgery.net/facial-masculinization-surgery/
Facial surgery info and surgeon websites – body sculpting info and surgeon websites

Extra:
Clothing
- http://www.ftmguide.org/suits.html
- http://www.ftmguide.org/shortmensclothes.html
- http://www.ftmguide.org/shoes.html
Voice Training
- Voice Pitch Analysizer App on Apple store or Google Play
Name change info – hair guide – timeline photos – facial hair - skincare

>>8203545
Uh desu I'm not sure how to answer either. I was thinking of the things I associate with being a man and I'm not sure if most of them are innate or socially constructed. I guess the essential thing is being most comfortable in a male body and wanting others to acknowledge you as male.

>>8203940
>the essential thing is being most comfortable in a male body and wanting others to acknowledge you as male.

this

I could use some advice. I'm ftm but still pre t, so look like a young boy/andro girl.
I have a best friend; I've never been this close to anyone before, even previous gfs. I'm straight too, but lately me and him agreed to cuddle.
It feels good just because we're both lonely, but when I think about it I get worried. Especially worried he sexualizes me which 99% sure he does. Is it weird to want platonic cuddles? Should I stop being friends with him, because the more I think about it, I'm scared he's going to want more and the fact that he probably thinks of me as a girl that he wants to fuck, really kills me.

>>8203940
>I guess the essential thing is being most comfortable in a male body

I see. I feel okay in this XY body but I don't feel particularly attached to it. For some time I entertained the thought of what I'd feel like if I randomly woke up in a female body someday. And I think I wouldn't care as long as it was functional and healthy. Oh I guess I'd want it to be aesthetically pleasing too, I wouldn't like being ugly.

>wanting others to acknowledge you as male.

That's an issue for me. Being acknowledged as male (which isn't an issue, being biologically male) makes me feel uncomfortable and guilty. Like a spy or something. But with less murder. When guys think I'm one of them and I have to play along, I feel like shit. It takes a lot of mental preparation to sell it too. Having to reverse engineer an external gender to make social interaction work is killing me.

So I guess having a male identity means LOVING being in a male body, being really attached to it and feeling relief/satisfaction when others view you as male too. Yeah, I'll probably need lots of drugs to achieve that.

>>8204116
Have you told him your ftm?

>>8204116
Just make sure he knows in the future you just were being friendly. If he says he's into you or some shit, just be like sorry dude I'm not gay? At least that way you're emphasizing that you are a boy or will be in the future.

>>8204191
>>8204197
He knows and avoids saying stuff he knows I wouldn't like. But I still can't help being anxious about him thinking I'm a girl and shit.
Should we stop cuddling? I mean it's really comfy desu, I wish it was more accepted for straight guys to do it.

>>8204222
Maybe your friend is closeted mtf so it's not gay after all?

>>8204184
I did the same thing before I "knew" I was trans, I'd observe so much and try to read tips about how to act like a girl. I hung out with mostly girls but it took so much energy to put on a different voice and think about things to say. It's much better when you are able to just be yourself, unfortunately I'm still in the closet with 95% of people so I still have to "act" a lot.

>>8204222
Eh unless he does something you aren't comfortable with or if he starts to treat you like a girl, for real just talk to him. Cuddling is fine. I lay in bed and watch Netflix with my gay male best friend and we both would never think about each other like that.

>>8204222
You have to decide which bothers you more, your apprehensions about his thoughts or giving up the contact. If it bothers you this much then I would personally just stop, but I'm not that fussed about platonic physical contact, so

>>8204116

you know i never thought anything of cuddling with friends... it's whatever to me... it's just something that happens sometimes, i've had a lot of friends who were physically affectionate in that way, and it's just how shit is with them... it's pretty much like holding hands to me

as long as you're real about where you stand and don't do something that you're uncomfortable with then you know... no big deal... you should probably just be honest, and try to understand where you feel... if you talk to him often maybe put a little distance there so you can sort out how you feel without him being there... space helps sometimes when it comes to figuring out how you feel towards someone and what's between both of you... it's hard to see things clearly when you're too involved with them

and you should try meeting people... if you're the same guy who's brought this up multiple times now... then you really need to try meeting people cuz you're clearly not comfortable with what's going on in the sense that you aren't comfortable with him you're just lonely so you need that from someone, and you can find that...

>>8204222

it's really not a big deal... it's just cuddling

>>8203594
This one right?
https://discord.gg/6BpMyXt

>>8202572

gay cis guy here; should I let a ftm kick me in the balls ?

>>8205154
kick yourself in your own damn balls

>>8203386

btw... graffiti can be effective in getting across a statement, all art can and graffiti's an art form... a good piece can get a message across and get noticed by being in a public space... i mean shit there's well known graffiti artists like hush or banksy

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>>8205293

>>8205449

i disagree... it's easily accessible media that can reach masses, why wouldn't it be potentially effective?

>>8205154
why tho

>>8205557
----whoooooosh-----

>>8205557
Brooklyn, sometimes I can't help but to question your intelligence.

>>8205673
Dude, not Brookster but google banksy's Palestine project

>>8205934
That antisemite can go to hell.

>>8205971
kek

>>8205154
post bum

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>>8202572
>shitty food porn

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>>8206086

>>8205673
>>8205633

We all know Brookles can't into humour. High ftm autism rate strikes again.

>>8206094
>>8206086
>tfw vegetables have bigger penors than you

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>>8206223
>how can vegetables even compete

i want to go to sleep but it's pretty hard to sleep when i keep noticing i don't have a penis

>>8206620
Stuff your pants and go the fuck to sleep

>>8206620
I just try to fantasize about how I wanna look and just close my eyes and then have a cozy dream. Waking up is horrible though but what can you do.

>>8206663
Also yeah you can stuff your undies/pants.

>>8205225
not limber enough
>>8205600
fetish
>>8206006
no

>>8204288
I feel like cis guys would have a different opinion tbqh.
Also how do you make friends pre t when it feels so hopeless? I don't want more people to deadname and misgender me every time we speak.. And even if I made "accepting" new friends (which I am rn) I'm still not coming out to them

>>8206689
>no
do it

>>8206765
>I'm still not coming out to them
Well don't then.
Why do you have to?

>>8206219

you know that's sarcasm specific right? matter of someone autistic having a hard time with vocal cues and tone of voice (large parts of sarcasm) which doesn't exist with text... for the most part everyone here is actually anonymous to me so i can't judge based on their sense of humour either just through getting to know them... fact is it's an opinion people actually hold and communicating actual opinions through stupid memes and pictures is pretty normal...

theory of mind though... that story with the 2 girls and the marble in the box where one girl leaves and the other moves the marble before she comes back... anyway the whole purpose is to illustrate the lack of empathetic understanding and being able to understand other people's point of view, cuz someone autistic will usually assume the girl who left knows the marble is in the box cuz they do... they can't place themselves in someone else's position or understand other possible perspectives and assume theirs is the only reasonable one


>>8205633

it happens... don't expect much from someone who's high most of the time

>>8205673

considering i have neurological damage and deal with brain and spine inflammation often enough i'm sure that's not unwarranted...

>>8206765
Dress for the job you want, not the one you have.
Present for the gender you are, not the sex you have.

>>8206765

depends on the cis guy... you're right when it's straight guys cuz social conditioning, but plenty of gay and bi guys are just kinda like that... i've actually never done that with a straight guy friend come to think of it... occasional hugs if that, and this one guy i knew really liked holding hands, but aside from that and him nah...

anyway your discomfort seems to have more to do with the fact that he sees you like a girl rather than what it's socially acceptable for straight guys to do... what is and isn't socially acceptable isn't objective anyway, so it's not the best standard for shit... but really aside from that, it's two straight guys to you and isn't to him; he's told you that...

introduce yourself with the name you prefer and don't tell them if you aren't ready... personally i don't see a point in putting off things like getting to know people just cuz other areas of my life aren't what i want them to be... and if i let my discomfort with myself keep from that i'd never leave the house or speak to anyone... you never know what's gonna happen in life though, so waiting for a specific set of conditions to do things just ends up leaving you with missed opportunities

that all being said i'm sure you're just gonna keep doing what you're doing cuz that's what people do...

>>8206842
what if you want to be a lawyer but work as a farm hand? do you clean muck dressed in a three-piece?

>>8206858
Absolutely.

>>8206966
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydPVFgiR-NY

>>8206769

nah

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>>8207105
faggot

>>8207113

yes I am.

>>8206620

put one of these bad boys down there, you'll feel all better >>8206094

>>8207163
We've all seen the comic about that.

>>8207243
n-not all of us...

>>8206828
>>8206219

who left knows the marble isn't in the box* my bad...

anyway, i mentioned it cuz it makes what you said kinda funny...

>>8206851
Brooklyn, do you have a discord? You should join the ftm discord, I'd love to talk about plants and stuff with you

>>8207399

i did, but i don't remember any of the info cuz i've destroyed a lot of technology since then... i'll try to get my shit together so we can talk though

>>8204116
Whenever I see posts like this I cringe a bit 'cause I can imagine that 99% of the time when straight/"bi" guys do flirty shit like this they don't see you as a man. They don't care about your identity if you look like a cute girl and as long as you believe them they can get what they want over and over. Of course, after you get on hormones and start changing they'll freak out and say that they "just don't want to" accociate with you anymore.

>>8205154
I'll kick you in the balls if you say mean things to me afterwards

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>>8207543
yeah that sounds about right

>>8207556
>if you say mean things to me afterwards

but that is supposed to be your job.

(Also what kinda things)

>>8207543
I'm scared this will happen with the dude I like. Oh boy. He flirts with me but also like, he corrects himself if he misgendered me etc, but idk if he truly sees me as a dude, probably not.

He makes gay jokes with me a lot etc so idk what to feel. And when I ask him, Are you gay? he says he has no idea.

>>8207543
Yeah, trusting "open minded" straight guys leads to disaster. It's all fun and games until you start getting to scruffy for their tomboy fantasies.

>>8207794
>he says he has no idea.

No heterosexual man would ever, ever, ever say this. Even a half decent liar wouldn't say that.

>>8207794
He just wants to fuck you, takes nothing to say a couple of shit about "i'm like soooo gay" if he knows that opens the panty floodgates. If the eyes see a tomboy-ish chick, that's what the brain perceives, even sexually. There's no way around it.

>>8208016
My friend with a tomboy fetish kept buying me masc clothes. When I mentioned I was starting testosterone he got very angry. I'm not getting clothes anymore.

>>8207991
>>8208016
I don't really know how to feel, he kind of used to flirt with this dude too but he doesn't anymore. I came out to him a while back and he flirted with me before and keeps doing so now.

I guess I am just paranoid but if he tries to like say he likes me I will tell him that I don't wanna be with som straight dude and see how that goes.

>>8208045
If you're still pre-t and look like a tomboy he can easily lie and throw around some bullshit about being bisexual to fuck you. If you wanna fuck him that's cool, but keep in mind he'll see you as a chick. And people who know you pre-hrt will have a hard time thinking of you as a male anyway, even post hrt, let alone somebody who's flirty. I got to the point that being called "he" by people who knew me before hand smells like fake pandering.

Is it just me or does gc2b binder not bind as much as I thought they would? I have the right size but it's still obvious I have tidddies.

>>8208330

i've seen people mention a lot of mixed results, but i don't have any issues... you could try underworks, but in my experience their shit runs kinda big and even their smallest size is too big for me

Guys ssi I live in a really "country/hick style" state in the US. And I usually wear jeans and hoodies since I'm overweight. But lately I'm starting to think that if I dress like the style of all the cowboys I would pass a lot easier.

Is there like a certain style of clothing that makes passing super easy for you guys?

>>8208442
>>8208442
tbph I would say the only thing that is guarented to look specifically manly is if you dress kinda scruffily. That's a typical guy thing, girls always usually make some sort of effort in public, even if they're going casual. But that's just my opinion.

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>tfw ywn have that bone structure
>tfw ywn be part of the first wave of hip hop
>tfw ywn form an intense emotional bond with 1970's Jaden Smith over grafitti
>tfw ywn be the perfect interracial, sexually and artistically liberated queer couple
>tfw ywn be able to pass with long hair

top surgery at 7:30 AM tomorrow

any post top guys have last minute advice for me?

>>8209017
>tfw ywn be able to pass with long hair
grow a beard, wear a wife beater, talk like a wigger pirate, then your long hair won't hurt your passing

>>8209119
after they shoot you up with the good stuff, touch the doctor's bum

Does it bother anyone else when people like planned parenthood use the term "menstruating people" or whenever someone says something about men and dicks some cis girl jumps in and reminds everyone some men have vaginas?
Like does it really bother some trans men that they aren't specifically being including in someone's tweet? You know what they mean and it doesn't mean they are referring to you as women and not men.
All it does it make me feel dysphoric like I don't need everyone and myself to be constantly reminded I don't have the genitals and reproductive system I feel I should have.

>>8209125
But I want to be a pretty boy.

>>8208975
I use to play animal crossing a lot and pokemon but I've bought sapphire and moon and still haven't bothered playing either of them.
I just take these long breaks from playing certain types of games before eventually binging them again. At the moment I'm playing my few console games I want to get through, then I'm building my new computer so I'll be on there for a while then maybe I'll get back to my ds.

>>8209172
Yes I hate that they're trying to be progressive but doing it in the completely wrong way. I should have a dick and imagine myself with a dick; I shouldn't have a vagina and don't want to be reminded that I currently have one.

>>8209199
You are already a prettyboy

>>8209017

i get a lot of mixed reactions from people about my gender, get called both (sometimes by the same person) in spite of having long hair... can't imagine why passing full time would be impossible for someone who's on t just due to hair length...

>>8209172

never noticed people doing that, but i don't care either way honestly...

Back again after a while away. Gonna blog. Sorry.

Got fired from my UPS job because I slept through my alarm and stayed up late. Before then I got moved to a low-strength, memory-based position, being pre-T. I was starting to get comfortable when I got walked out, which sucks a little.

Been working with my dad to help him move out of the house. Just the other day I helped him load up a Uhaul full of furniture and unload it in San Antonio. Got a hundred bucks outta two days, which is maybe too good a deal.

My girlfriend is being awesome about my transition, and is starting to open up. She's a bit crazy, but it's not like I'm crazy either. Not quite sure what to think, but I love her so I'm gonna try to make it work.

>>8209119
Once come round, don't try and stress about what happened. Just try and sleep it off and they'll tell you everything went fine when you're good and ready.

You may wake up with a pressure vest on, don't be confused (idk if everyone does this, but I got it and was a bit like wtf am i a terrorist now), that's if they haven't already told you (didn't tell me)

If you're in pain, do say, but try not to be a little bitch about it. The more you fuss over the pain the worse it is. (Mine was painfree, but I've been in hospital for enough stuff to know that you can't focus on the pain, because you're literally stuck in a bed with nothing else and it'll be 10 times worse if you dwell on how stuck you are)

When you start getting in and out of bed, take the drains with you as you lie down, then lower slowly them down from the tube.

It's not that bad. Come back in a year when you want bottom surgery advice.

>>8209573
Tell us about bottom surgery. Are you happy with your results?

>>8209555

if you worked there 6+ months you might be able to get unemployment 'til you get a new job

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>>8209598
I'm not entirely done yet. I was due my last stage a few weeks back (pump and scrotoplasty), but I fucking contracting some other sort of illness and wound up in hospital for that the day before I was due to go down for stage 3. Thus far, however, I am literally over the moon with my new abomination of a dick. It looks good and I have sensation to orgasm when I masturbate, but obviously I can't speak for sex yet. I've showed a few friends and they've been pretty impressed with the length and girth. The glansplasty really did a great job and now it just looks like a regular circumcised dick 2bh.

The one issue is, it does need shaving because it's obviously hairy all over as it's taken from my arm. The healing of my graft site didn't go quite as well as most people's and it actually looks more like a burn than a scar (people often ask me how I got that burn), but it doesn't faze me. It's definitely worth it. That image is just after it healed, and those red patches have now risen a bit more - making it look more burnesque, but I don't have a recent image, sorry.

But I was happy to have a dick even when it was just a tube of flesh (before the head was defined and before I could piss through it), so I mean I'm the sort of person who was always going to be very satisfied no matter what happened.

>>8202572

How weird of a fetish is it on a scale of 1-10 to want to have sex with a Fujoshi even though im a cis gay bottom?

>>8209598
The surgery is tough. First stage was a week in hospital and then weeks of doing nothing. They put staples in your ass where they take skin to cover the donor site and you can barely walk. I apparently have a high pain threshold, but it's supposed to be a lot more painful that I found it (aside from pain when I tried to over exert my legs, there was none).

Second was more painful for me because of the hysterectomy. As they use keyhole, the gases they use cause your nerves to fuck up....in your shoulders. So when I have to move myself in and out of bed, I can't because of the pain I'm getting in my shoulder and I'm struggling to pull myself up. I can't lie with my arms still either, because that hurts too. I had to bend them into weird positions just to stop the pain, but then I couldn't sleep because I'm like having to constantly hold my arms in place. It only took two days in hospital, but, for me, that one was worst pain.

>>8209654
Oh cool man I'm glad you're happy with the results.

>>8209667
2 - no way near the weirdest thing I've seen.

>>8209667
zero, psbi is normal for aaps.

>>8209202
>tfw no tranny friend that I can visit on ACNL
What type of games do you like? I can't afford other consoles so I play only on the PC and 3ds. My GPU is pretty outdated too so I mostly just play pre-2012 games or games that don't have super fancy graphics. It's okay though since I'm still having fun and my favorite games are Fallout 2 and New Vegas anyway.

>>8208330
gc2b is shit for me, Underworks gives me the snug fit I need. I think it depends on your body type? (I' have a small frame, skinny built, but with large flabby ex-fatty tits.)

>>8209667
>having sex
Fujoshi would rather watch you getting rammed by some faceless old black guy.

Why are you asking that here though?

>>8210991
he probably figures there are some aaps here who he can call fujoshi

>>8210617
Not that anon, but what pre-2012 games do you play? Do you like Dark souls?

>>8209017
man i liked the fuck out of that show, even though the second season wasn't quite as strong.

Really did not care for the cartoons.

>>8209555
>San Antonio
Come say hi.
Only don't, I'd know you from 4chan and that would be terrible. Neither one of us needs that.

>>8211531

meeting someone from 4chan isn't necessarily terrible...

i've chilled with a transchick i met here (we still talk, but since i left brooklyn so seeing her would be a bitch right now), and i'm still alive and it went well... first time we met we spent hours talking and shit, ended up cuddling on a bench talking about politics and wilderness survival skills like navigating by star...

doesn't really matter where you meet someone first... in some cases anyway

>>8211531
Came back up to DFW on the second day, so I can't right now.

It probably wouldn't be just awful unless you're also a depressed bastard. I'd like to have a beer and a smoke and shoot the shit with one of you guys.

Besides, he actually lives in this little dinky country town called Blanco. Gorgeous wildlife, got to watch the fireflies. Got bit to shit by the mosquitos though.

its so weird dating a rich boy who drops hundreds of dollars on technology n shit
while im tryna scrap together pennies for rent

Should I bite the bullet and tell my counselor I am trans?

>>8212031
that's not a rich boy

>>8209172
>Does it bother anyone else when people like planned parenthood use the term "menstruating people" or whenever someone says something about men and dicks some cis girl jumps in and reminds everyone some men have vaginas?
It annoys the fuck out of me. I get no pleasure out of being included in the category of people who menstruate or have vaginas. The fact that I'm in that category is kind of the whole fucking problem, and I don't understand why it's suddenly considered progressive to rub my nose in it.
Oh right, because the bulk of 'trans activists' these days are children in their rebel phase who have no idea what being trans or having dysphoria even entails.

>>8212563
you should obviously tell your counsellor you're trans

they're confidential

>>8212720 addendum
Also, is it just me or have people NEVER done this sort of thing for gay people? In all the shitfits people have about media catering to the 'male gaze' I don't think I ever once saw some SJW screeching "what about gays and lesbians?"

Which is fucking insane, because it comes back to something Zeke said about being outed on Survivor
>Many gay people consider coming out a moment of liberation, because sharing their sexual orientation with the world causes them to be seen more authentically. Often, the opposite is true for trans people. When we share our gender history, many see us less authentically — doubting, probing or denying our identities.

So why is everyone screeching for trans people to be acknowledged as their natal sex (you know, the exact opposite of everything trans people have ever fought for), but not screeching for gays to be acknowledged for their orientation?
I swear to god, these SJWs look more like a right wing conspiracy every day, how do they not realise how fucking horrible they are?

>>8212031
yeah he sounds pretty trashy and normie

rich boys cover others' costs too

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>>8212756
>Which is fucking insane, because it comes back to something Zeke said about being outed on Survivor
>>Many gay people consider coming out a moment of liberation, because sharing their sexual orientation with the world causes them to be seen more authentically. Often, the opposite is true for trans people. When we share our gender history, many see us less authentically — doubting, probing or denying our identities.

This is very well put and at the crux of a lot of the LGB and T divide. Thanks for sharing that Zika virus quote

>I swear to god, these SJWs look more like a right wing conspiracy every day, how do they not realise how fucking horrible they are?

Pic related

>>8212742
I have severe social anxiety though and she is like 45 years old. Idk if she knows anything about trans people but I really should tell her. If I stop being a pussy.

>>8212925
My therapist is the same age. She only thing she had heard about transpeople was drag queen jokes. Just be patient. Show her a good trans web page with the basics. Make sure you tell her that it is not a choice but something you're born with.

>>8212925
Make sure she's read the DSM-V or WPATH so she knows gender dysphoria diagnosis and that it is medical.

>>8213015
dude it's a counselor

>>8213066
So?

>>8213404
I think it was implying that straight counselors can read.

>>8213409
>it

Where do I find a masc, straight / bi ftm to be my bf and to fugg me?
Would any transguys even want a transgirl gf?
And how would sex work assuming you're as uncomfortable using the mancave as I am with the girltumour??

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>>8213555
Here. Have a lunch and stuff. Can I see your tiddies pls.

>>8213555
No.

anyone else get phantom penis sensations occasionally? doesnt happen often but boy its fucking weird when it does

>>8207794
I don't think he has bad intentions, maybe he's Just confused and trying his best
But who knows.

>>8213881
There are also rapists and pedos with no bad intentions. If they guy sees anon as a girl he will probably change his mind the moment T kicks in, and some guys get angry and blame the transguy for 'things going bad'

>>8213881
We don't know each other irl so he wouldn't be able to get physical anyway unless we were like seriously dating and meeting up. But he is a nice person, I know he is, we talk a lot but I still can't get this feeling out of my head.

>>8213887
And he supports me being trans and he doesn't mind the fact that I'm gonna transition, he probably will stop liking me when T kicks in but I am glad he is supportive though.

>>8213555
>And how would sex work assuming you're as uncomfortable using the mancave as I am with the girltumour??
Strapons and your ass

You guys know any voice changing programs? I wanna like play online without getting called GRILL all the time, some kind of pitching program would be cool.

>>8213887

do you think maybe he's secretly hitler too?

>>8213840
Yeah I think I do, specially wearing masculine underwear. It's a common thing

>>8213555
I love girls, so dating a transgirl would be no problem. Sex would just be us staring lovingly into each other's eyes and LARPing out a scenario with our wanted genitals verbally.

>>8213897
I'm a bit scared this happens with my boyfriend too. I'm Pre-T and he's bisexual, but I know he kinda has a tomboy fetish and talks a lot about my genitals, before he used.. "girl names" for it but then I told him to stop. He calls me stuff like pretty boy, sometimes handsome too, made gay jokes and flirted since we were just friends, usually apologized for misgendering me a couple times saying he does it with every guy (now he never misgenders me) and I know he's supportive and says he likes the idea that I get T one day and look like a man. I know he loves me but aghh I'm just not 100% sure he sees me as a man

>>8214020
who even cares? as long as he's attracted to you and treats you the way you want to be treated, what's the problem?

t. mtf who would date a gay guy

>>8210617
I honestly dont think I have a favourite genre of game just as long as it has a cool setting I like. The last couple games I finshed were dishonoured 2 and resident evil 7 and now I'm working through dark souls 3.

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>>8209172
>>8209220
>>8212756
perfectly horrible example - notice its not from a ftm calling himself just a man or a transgender man but a "transmasculine"

>>8214026
Because the whole point of being trans is that people see you as the gender you transition to

>>8214179
Did you get the dark souls 3 DLCs? Ringed city was a nightmare

>>8214211
we aren't all hsts

>>8214228
Aren't hsts straight?

>>8213986
yes

>>8214212
Not yet, I have to admit I don't usually bother with dlcs for whatever reason.

tfw finally have insurance
but high ass deductible i cant afford
so i still cant afford doctors visit to get T cause im gonna have to pay it outta pocket anyways :')

>>8214608
i read shit like this and im just like god bless the fucking nhs.

>>8214305
All dichotomies are false dichotomies.

>>8214712
>babby's first social science class
:3

the discord server got raided by a bunch of /b/tards hahaha

i'm trying to learn a foreign rap song and I feel like as soon as I have done it i'll lose all interest in it.
so sad.

>>8214822
so many wrongs with this post

>>8214822

I can flawlessly sing the full version of Haruka Kanata 10 years post-Narutardation. I don't know what any of it means, but I can sing it. And do. Enthusiastically. (Where no one can hear me, of course).

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When i miss a dose or 2 of testosterone i start to have dreams and thoughts about living as a girl again. Like i genuinely miss wearing dresses, applying make up, and the simplicity of not being trans (no surgeries, no hormones, no name change, no sad mom)

When im back to a stable T level all those feelings go away. Why is this? A sign I shouldn't transition?

>>8214887
ok judgemental judy
>>8214911
it's not a language i'm unfamiliar with, it is a language i've been learning for many years so i can sing other stuff. it's just the speed of the rap and the liberal use of tongue twisters.

>>8214957
probably that you're a drag queen 2bh.

>>8214957
Yeah sounds like you might be making a mistake famalamadingdong

how long you been taking the 'mones?

>>8214997
2 years

I detransitioned once but missed being a guy. But the thing is, as is common for girls, i get irrational and super emotional especially during shark week, so it's hard to tell if I'm just being a crazy girl or genuinely prefer to live as a man.

>>8215033
do you pass?

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>>8215046
Yeah, and being a guy makes me appreciate my nose. I'm not super masculine and don't try to be besides building muscle but that's for practical reasons not aesthetics.

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>>8215090
This is right before i started T.

>>8202851
Avoid soy cause it boost estrogen

Maybe since T calms my emotions i just like that, not the actual transition part. Anti-Anxiety/depression pills dont help with my emotions. I wish i could afford a therapist.

>>8215090

you know, you've been saying the same things for a long time (years)... the same doubts, the same issues, the same uncertainty, and literally every time that i've seen it you mention your mother... to a point where it makes me wonder if she's more the source of your doubt and discomfort rather than yourself... have you ever spent a significant amount of time away from her and on your own? i honestly think that you spending time on your own and being whoever you are (whether that comes with dresses and make up or not, that doesn't make you male or female anyway) away from her and without her input would do you a lot of good...

it sounds like you need a chance to really reflect and see how you feel, and she sounds like she holds you back from it...

>>8215189
You've got a point.

>>8215215

it happens from time to time...

even if you can't get away from her for a little while you could try doing something like writing down all of the reasons you feel like you might not be trans and then pinpoint the causes of those feelings... if you notice a pattern of those reasons going back to her repeatedly then you should really reassess how you deal with the guilt and doubt she puts on you for being yourself...

i've just seen you mention too many things like her giving you reasons why you can't be trans, and putting her emotions on you like you're meant to be personally responsible for them at the cost of yourself... so you need to really weigh those factors

and whether or not the shit you like is masculine or feminine doesn't change whether or not you feel dysphoria or are happier with yourself now and/or being on t...

>>8214957
You might just miss the gender roles of being female. Like dresses arent just for girls, neither is makeup

>>8215090
can you post your tat? You got other works?

Hey lads. I'm in the UK and have been looking at getting referred to a GIC, but to be considered for T, I need to live as a dude 100% for a year...Which is really friggin hard when you don't pass because you're not on T (talking about NHS funded places, not private)

What do? I'm out to my wife but that's it. I dress as a guy but use the women's toilets etc....

>>8215479
No you dont, I'm in the uk and didn't have to do that. RLE used to be required but isn't anymore because they finally realised how retarded it is. I'm at the laurels if that helps.

>>8215479
>socialised healthcare
>even once

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>>8215474
This is all i got. It's a cover up.

>>8215506
My bad, I think I freaked out and read it wrong. Do I just get my GP to refer me to a clinic near me? Are there any "requirements" I need to meet? Is the laurels NHS or private?

>>8215553
I've heard that Nottingham still does RLE. I can't confirm or deny since I'm long since started. All you need to do is get your GP to refer you.

>>8215553
https://ukftm.tumblr.com/post/101177678456/transitioning-on-the-nhs

>>8215563
That's what I was looking at, the ones closest to me are Sheffield and Nottingham but I think RLE applies more to the surgery side more than hormones...

>>8215569
Much appreciated

>>8215547
Nice. What did it cover up?

>>8215580
I can tell you 100% that Nottingham used to demand RLE for both. However, I do not know if they have changed. Did the tumblr post shed any more light on the situation?

>>8215620
Under the leaves in the tattoo there's a faded black star. Covering that awful thing up. I love the calico. Got one more session left.

>>8215658
As far as I can tell, that still stands for Nottingham, but Sheffield only requires RLE for bottom surgery (and that's after you've been on hormones for at least 12 months) Top surgery only requires 6 months on T I think.

>>8215658
And yeah the tumblr link was really helpful thanks

>>8215774
I didn't post the link, btw, I just wanted to know if it cleared things up.

So, I believe you can ask your GP to get you referred at Sheffield, which is probably easier.

Should you, for whatever reason get stuck at Nottingham, you may be able to get around it. When I said I was fulltime, I wasn't really. I told them from the get go that I was, and I'd got the deedpoll done before I went to change my name and present as male as soon as I got there. They said they'd still need 2 pieces of evidence, so I just used the deedpoll to get a new bank account, one that I didn't use for ages whilst still using my deadname one. I did however also get my name changed at uni, because it's liberal and they didn't give a fuck, and that was my second piece of evidence. But it did it and by the time I was approved for HRT (It's probably going to take at least 10months to get you officially diagnosed) they also said I had completed RLE because I had told them I was fulltime from the beginning. So I could pretty much go straight onto hormones.

So, I dunno how easy it would be for you, but if you do have to do some RLE, then it's worth trying to consider if you can convince them you are fulltime without actually going fulltime, if it makes things easier for you, you know? I appreciate probably not everyone can, but just thought I'd share my experience if it can be helpful.

Boys I need your help. I'm going to be starting T soon. Currently I'm living in Orlando, and I'll be moving to Austin later this year..I'm of course terrified because, I don't know where I should start looking for an obstetrician when I get out of this oven. Does anyone have any references who might live in Austin? Yeah Google exists, by I'd rather not be stabbed in the neck by some unknown, help a brother out.

>>8215845
What happens if you have a unisex name and don't want to change it?

>>8216371
you don't have to
but you have to get your title changed to mr

>>8216895
What if you don't use a title from the start?

>>8216926
What do you mean from the start, like from your first appointment?
they won't count it as male while you're still down as miss.

>>8216926
if you mean like, can i literally not use a title, i don't think so. They'll get your patient info from the NHS, which is going to have your gender on it.

>>8216941
If you've never used miss or mr for anything.

>>8216986
But you have to have done
like your bank details will be to mr or ms
or even if it's not specifically a title things will have your gender, like it says male or female on your passport.
My point is, you don't have to change your name, you just have to present as male appearance wise and get your gender marker changed on some sort of official documents as proof.

>>8217003
But before and after transition I want official sources to refer to me without a gender and without mr or miss.

>>8217042
I think some things do use the Mx option right now, but I really don't know if that applies to passports and shit. You'll have to look into it, but if they only have m or f then you'll just have to pick, I'm afraid.

Is this because you want to remain gender neutral or you don't want to be down as male until you pass?

>>8217061
>you'll just have to pick, I'm afraid.
Not what the question was.

A mix of both columns.

>>8217092
>Not what the question was.
Don't you have a passport? If so, it'll be down as female already. You'll have been given a national insurance number at some point, right? That'll already be down as miss.

It doesn't matter if you haven't used a title, you'll already be on records as female, so even if you don't pick, you'll just be down as that by default.

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Still haven't washed my shirt

How the fuck do you come out at work without it being awkward?

Started a new job, and got she'd all day long. HR said they'd try to help on their end, but I'm gonna have to say something to my manager tomorrow and I don't know what to say other than "So by the way, I'm a guy".

>>8217302
You can't. Depends on how accepting your co-workers are. Coming out is never not going to be awkward. Unless you can do it via message so you don't actually have to have the conversation in person.

how do you guys get a gf? I've lost 100 pounds and I get looks from qts all the time.

>>8217302
I transitioned during a job I really liked, let them figure it out on their own. Got a better job with better pay after because I was able to do a more physical demanding job once I had gained a little bit of muscle mass. Never told anyone I'm trans because I work in a trade now.

>>8203516
>Eggs
Pretty sure vegans don't eggs cause >m-muh animal cruelty

>>8211719
Nah, I was being (mostly) facetious. I've met people from this site before and it was pretty chill.
>>8211531
Hill country, nice. DFW seems to have a pretty big trans scene, at least from my perspective. Lotta medical providers (relatively) also.
And yeah, the fireflies have been pretty intense this year, it's fuckin' great. I'm not really a smoker but I'm game for a beer if you ever wander back down.

>>8208039
Straight guys want a bro they can drink beer, play games and have sex with more than anyone.

but

Straight guys also kind of really need that bro to be all feminine and soft and round in the right places.

That puts FtMs in difficult situation.

>>8216345
....you mean a gynecologist?

I don't know why I'm asking, I don't actually know of any, but I have a friend in Austin I could ask.

Austin tends to the liberal, if it helps.

>>8202851
Lentils are my go to cheap and easy beans, and are supposedly good protein addition.

My vegan coworker wouldn't shut up for a while about that anyways, he's a recent convert.

I'm a male to female transitioner. I met my first trans guy recently this story is now about 7 months outdated, (I didn't pass at the time) at the LGB pride center and it made me cringe. I referred to him as a "trans man" and he said verbatim "excuse me...trans masculine". I just paused, looked at him like blankly and smiled, but in my head was thinking vicious judgmental thoughts like "no shit you're not a man, not with that attitude, you fucking tranny lmfao none of my male friends would give a fuck about any dumb fucking shit like that".

Is this a common thing amongst transgender masculines? Or was that the odd tranny out who just likes being offended? He seemed exactly like every trigger happy LGB club woman I've ever actively tried to avoid, other than the body. Really threw me as a loop.

I only bring this up now because I'm visiting my transgender friend who is just starting his transition like this month. I don't have explicit ftm advise for him, like I would for a mtf, so I'd appreciate any newbie trans advice you've got including types of people to avoid etc.

Thanks guys and thanks for not being Tumblr whores.

>>8217721
As a follow up, I did screen cap the binding info and the other info dump at the top in this thread - you guys are way more organized than /mtfg/. I mostly just want personal advice like what you'd say to a first timer etc like critical pieces.

We're from NY if that matters culturally or medically.

>>8213969
There's Audacity but I'm not sure if it can pitch your voice and then play it back to someone online. The only programs I know of for that usually have really fun/crazy filters, not just vanilla pitching.
You have to be really careful with it though, because it can be obvious to someone who's used to hearing male voices (ie. gamer guys). Don't go too deep.

>>8214202
What even is transmaculine? I see it on Tumblr a lot.

>>8214608
It's mostly the blood tests you have to worry about, paying just for T isn't that bad. Any insurance should cover blood tests.

>>8216345
Austin in Texas, right?
I don't know of any OB/GYN in Austin specifically, but there is Brian Harle in San Antonio, if you're up for an hour long commute.
You can also look into Katy Koonce, she's a therapist that can write recommendation letters for hormones or surgery, so she might have other connections.

>>8217721
The unfortunate thing about FtMs now is that half of them are Tumblr types. Fairy prince transmasculine he/they pronouns uwu kind of shit. Very non-committal, usually they don't even seek transitioning outside of social.

>>8217748
Like he straight up was on HRT but only literally had MTF friends (lived with 2 of them - no other friends). I just write the whole lot of them out as social degenerates and willful pariah complexes. Like I'm over here rapping in a mans voice wearing pink and growing tits calling myself a chick, those other bitches are all still crying about social justice and making tranny signs for fucking climate marches lmfao. Like at what point do you just get adopt a male identity? I don't understand it. I hate most notably or "openly" trans people who treat being trans like being vegan. Don't worry, they'll fucking tell you. Thing is guys will pretty much adopt any new bro with or without a dick, so I don't understand the need to distance from men other than eating too much LGB propaganda and watching too much Amanda sarckeezian

>>8217488

i've only ever dated people i was friends with first who have asked me out... meeting people any other way feels like a chore and shit like dating sites seem like they'd need to be a full time job to sort through all those messages and people and shit... easier to just make friends and see what happens

>>8217503

eh i'm not vegan cuz of animal cruelty... i mean that shit's not exactly ok, but that's got fuckall to do with it... not every vegan is an animal rights activist

>>8217507

got'cha... some people are weird about meeting people from 4chan as opposed to other sites

>>8217721

idk what "transmasculine" is supposed ro mean... never heard it

>>8217742

i'm from brooklyn... so i don't think location necessarily makes a difference

>>8217843
>Like at what point do you just get adopt a male identity?
When it's more comfortable for you.

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had top surgery this morning and am in the hospital for tonight. i am really happy. they gave me percocet for the pain. i can walk a bit but im really tired.

>>8217940
I hope they saved the tits for a deserving mtf to have transplanted.

>>8217885
Same, I've only ever dated girls who liked me and made the first move but that was when I asked them to be my gf. Since I'm male now they expect me to figure shit out and let me do all the work.

>>8217981
Enjoy your male privilege!

>>8217981

eh that's not how all women work, and regardless you just still meet people and if you click shit just happens naturally... even if you feel like you wanna be assertive with that shit it's still the same steps you just make the first move...

i've never made the first move with a friend cuz i'm always pretty oblivious about that kinda thing when it's directed at me, and by default i assume things aren't like that so i don't think about shit in those terms... nearly all of my close friends have eventually told me they were in love with me or wanted to have sex, but i'm still surprised every time cuz i'm stupid and don't learn... so i get frustrated confessions... part of it's that a lot of the people who interact with me are usually pretty forward about just wanting to fuck or whatever from the start, so people not doing that throws me off... people either don't give a fuck about actually knowing me as a person, or when they do i assume that they don't like me once they have...

anyway, next time you catch a chick looking at you find an excuse to say hi, take it from there

>>8218118

once they do* not have... my bad

>>8217222
Dude, weren't you going to wash it in the sink at least?

>>8217981
It's annoying as fuck, from an mtf perspective. Every girl I've been with has (as a guy) treated me like it was my job to plan all events and micro manage both party's emotional states. It's insane. Also, this thread seems so much nicer and less mentally ill than mtfg. I was just visiting but I might stick around and just not chat as much.

>>8217222

so day 5? you should really wash it... i feel sorta hypocritical saying that cuz i'm wearing a shirt that should really be thrown away at this point it's so ripped up and old, but eh... at least it's clean

>>8218177

i've had girls ask me out then expect me to do all the other shit... never been in a position where someone else was doing everything... though my s/o can be pushy about getting his way all the time

>>8218177
>Every girl I've been with has (as a guy) treated me like it was my job to plan all events and micro manage both party's emotional states.
tfw want to be a girl so a guy can do this for me

>>8217940
your so lucky you were able to walk

>Just woke up from top surgery
>Told nurse I had to pee
>Hands me one of those hospital urinals
>No one must have told her that I'm trans
>Explained to her I can't use that
>She said yes you can just put it in there and pee!
>She is very confused
>Politely ask to use the bathroom again
>Asks if I can walk, I say yes
>Get to the bathroom and do my business
>Get up too fast and collapse
>Everyone heard me collapse
>Only allowed to pee in a container afterwards

I'm very happy about my top surgery. Don't forget to massage your chest after a few days.

>>8217940

glad it went well... wish someone would give me percs... they're shit as far as opiates go, but i haven't had any since mid feb so they'd work well enough...

>>8218118
Do I just say hi? or like hey (insert convo-starter here) sort of thing?

>>8218177
Yes, American girls particularly. I'm a canuk so some of the girls I've been with were just like "we are going to a party" or we a are going to my friends place and your coming. I do however have a say where we are going to eat or other shit like that.

>>8218414

pretty much, you just talk about something that's relevant to the sotuation or if they have something with them or are wearing something that's indicative of any interests they might have pick that out and bring it up cuz they're likely to engage in conversation then... don't immediately hit on a chick cuz they can get weird about that, but if you can get them talking and they seem interested you just take it from there... keep flirting light if there's an opening for it, if not then try to get an opportunity to spend more time with them and get to know them better then go for it then...

when you seem immediately yoo interested you're just giving them an advantage over you and opening yourself up to possible bullshit... but when you're friendly and keep shit light you avoid annoying shit longer and still get what you want

>>8218486

too* my bad

>>8217647

If you could ask your friend, that'd be so helpful man, please and thank you. I need someone to be able to have my bloodwork done and...you know, keep getting my testosterone. I'm not worried about Austin itself, I'd just wanted to figure out where to go to ya know...keep going and not have to stop T when I move.

>>8218486
Thanks for the good advice anon. Wish I heard this earlier. Could have saved me from a lot off bullshit.

>>8217748

I will look up Katy, I appreciate any response very much

>>8218486

situation* damn it...

>>8218567

np, hope it works out for you and you meet someone...

no matter what once you're dating someone there's gonna be some level bullshit...

got a fever, no people at job to call in when sick (there's like four of us total), have to go work outside for five hours.

It/'s not even mentally or physically demanding, but I'll fall asleep standing up I swear.

>>8218799

that sucks, hopefully you feel better, what kinda work is it?

do you at least have time to sleep a little, pop so tylenol, and take a cold shower? helps a lot... supposedly weed can lower fevers too, can't say i've ever noticed though...

>>8219007
Already slept for 12hrs, and it's guiding people to their cabs, pretty much.

>>8217503
the guy asked for vegetarian advice

>>8217940
Mexico?

>>8219539
Miami FL

They changed the bandage and wrap this morning and I got to see my chest. It was great.

If someone's calling themselves 'transmasculine' it means they think of themselves as female to nonbinary, so they moved towards maleness but aren't really male

>>8217503
Some vegans eat eggs because you can get them from chickens that aren't treated like shit and bred just to be slaughtered for their meat. As the eggs are useless if they're not fertilised, it's no problem for some vegans to eat eggs from chickens kept under these conditions.

>>8220095
explain honey

>>8220176
Again, vegans are divided on the issue. I have two vegan friends, one does eat honey, the other doesn't. It's a matter of belief, and if you simply believe we shouldn't be using animals for their products then honey is a no. If you believe we can use animal products, if it's at no cost to the animal at all, then yes. As a non-vegan and non-beekeeper, I don't really know shit about the process of collecting honey but I feel like it's humane enough and non-detrimental to the bees to allow the some vegans to be okay with it.

>>8215845
That makes sense, thanks anon.

>>8220095

then they aren't vegan... they're vegetarian, they might be mostly vegan but technically eating just eggs would fall under "ovo vegetarian" ... though unless they're raising chickens or getting them from someone they know the animals are probably still being abused "cage free" means as much as "organic" typically does for fruit and vegetables...

>>8220176

honey technically makes me a vegetarian, but it's one people don't really count unless they're feeding other people who are vegan... typically when people say vegan it's cuz they mean vegetarian - eggs and dairy...

so honey falls in a weird grey area... i think it's probably partially cuz of the environmental factors since unlike anything else you could eat that's an animal product if you support small scale apiaries you're helping keep bees alive...

that's not why i eat honey, but yeah... that one's actual grey area and technically vegetarian... it's just that saying you're vegetarian comes with eggs and/or dairy so it's inconvenient to use

>>8219176

you probably already went to work so... hope it went well

>>8220241
>though unless they're raising chickens or getting them from someone they know the animals
that's exactly what they do :^)

So are you vegan, brooklyn? or at least trying to practice a vegan lifestyle as much as possible?

>>8220095
>>8220241

+ " vegan" doesn't describe the ethical means of a product... it can get used that way, but really it just implies that eggs and dairy aren't eaten... vegetarians eat animal products but not meat, and if they go to a small farm where everything is raised well to get eggs or dairy they aren't suddenly vegan

i say i'm vegan (technically i'm not cuz of honey) so people don't try to feed my eggs or dairy... don't care where it came from or how humane it was

i only get someone eating eggs really infrequently using the term if they're vegan most of the time and then once a month or a few times a year they'll make an exception...

>>8220250

that's cool... if i was settled somewhere i'd consider that, but i still wouldn't eat the eggs... the birds eat them though...

yeah, other than honey... i haven't eaten meat in years, i'm not even sure how long now... it's not about animals though, it's cuz of ocd

and i stopped eating eggs and dairy on/off after getting sick cuz i on/off (during bad flares) get allergic reactions to both... i can tell when i'll get a reaction based on how alcohol hits me (i'll take feeling extra sick to be drunk), but i can't eat any of it any more whether or not i'm having a flare without getting anxious... even when i'm not in the middle of one (i am now) the association fucks me up and makes it so i can't enjoy any of it

i don't wear fur or leather (could never stand it), but that's not ethics either... i just can't personally cuz the idea of something else's dead skin touching my skin bothers the fuck out of me... it's honestly all just a matter of personal disgust and shit rather than any large scale greater good thoughts... i like animals, and think them being treated well is ideal, but i mean... nature is destructive and brutal all around...

all that being said i'd consider going hunting if i knew someone would use the meat, and i do go fishing if i know i can give the fish to someone else who will eat it... i just see it like an activity where i get to be on/near water and shitfaced and that's 2 of my favourite things right there but with "purpose"

>>8220323
Yeah, that's the thing isn't it. In a technical sense you are vegan, but it's come to mean more than just renouncing consumption of animal products, hasn't it? Like some vegans would argue you wouldn't be a vegan if you're going out and hunting or fishing, even if you're not consuming the produce, because to them it's all about total rejection of any form of harm to the animal.

Also, your birds eat the eggs? Never would have thought that

>>8220362

it means different things to different people... but i've never heard it mean eggs or dairy are eaten... i imagine your friend uses it as an ethics term then?

they could argue it sure, but i get bitched out by preachy vegans even without fishing (i've never been hunting, i just would give it a shot for the experience) being brought up cuz i don't eat the way i do for ethical reasons so it'd be nothing new... you can eat like them, not wear leather or fur, and still deal with preachy bitching if your reasons are different than theirs...

in a dietary sense aside from honey i'm vegan, but ethically? nah... i grow some of my own food when i can, but that's just cuz i like plants and i buy from farmer's markets and shit but that's a matter of better quality + i'd rather support small businesses and individuals rather than larger corporations

parrots eat eggs (gypsy's never laid an egg, i actively discourage it cuz i don't wanna deal with it and it takes a toll on their bodies doing it + possible complications) idk about other kinds of pet birds, but i know they do... you could actually find seed mixes for them with dehydrated egg in it, mine don't really eat seeds though (people feeding their parrots seed based or just seed diets actually cut their lifespan down significantly)

they eat the shells too... you just toast them first

>>8220452
Dairy doesn't count because even if you aren't killing the cow, it's taking milk away from the calf. It can only count for eggs because they're just chicken period. But, yeah, I guess to them they take it more as what can we do to limit animal suffering because they won't use like stuff tested on animals either and shit. I mean, you clearly are vegan, but the concept is kinda like an identity now, isn't it? So there's bound to be clashes between people doing it for dietary reasons and those people who have varying ethical and environmental concerns.


Wow, that's really cool. I totally had no idea. Is the toasting to soften it up?

dumb question - if you apply injectable T on your skin, do you take in any of it?

>>8220501
dairy cows produce more milk than the calf needs. Yes dairy industry is fucked but if you have a cow and she gets a calf you have to milk her on top of what she's feeding or else she can get bursting udders or infections. We bred them this way.

>>8220533
It has to get into your bloodstream to work, so probably not more than a tiny amount that literally won't do anything, if that.
You afraid of needles or just wondering?

>>8220533
t-gel is a thing

>>8220539
idk senpai, tell that to the vegans.
Although, I guess it's because every farm that produces cows is going to be slaughtering the calves anyway, so the line is too blurred to say that we can drink milk because there would have been enough - it's still supporting farms that are harming animals is the bottom line, I guess.

>>8220533
It's injectable for a reason, anon...
also
>>8220545

>>8220544
Umm yeah, it's a long story. I want afraid of needles until I did like 5 or 6 shots myself, and now I can't physically get myself to insert a needle into my leg. I just get like really anxious and can't do it. So I started having the nurse at my clinic do them for me again while we tried to sort out the details on switching to gels or pellets. The clinic is closed today so I had to do it on my own this morning, but I couldn't manage to do it again. So then after two hours of staring at my leg with the syringe in my hand, I noticed an air bubble had formed and tried to get it out, but ended up accidentally spilling my T like an idiot. So then I thought, "okay, maybe I'll just apply this to my leg and how I can take it in transdermally." I then started looking up to see if that would work at all and it seemed like it probably wouldn't, so I called to see if I can have a nurse at my uni's infirmary do it for me, so I'm headed there now. All in all this feels like a fucking trainwreck and I hate not having the right reproductive organs. I really hope I can start on pellet implants soon.

>>8220588
Hope*, not how

>>8220545
It is, but it does have a few drawbacks:
>it's much more expensive
>insurance isn't as likely to cover it, even for cis dudes with low T
>you gotta apply it every day
>if you have a girlfriend or pets, you gotta make sure it doesn't rub off on them

>>8220595
>>it's much more expensive
It is?
My shrink told me the opposite. Weird.

>>8220588
If the clinic is closed today, why don't you just go another day? it's not like a few days is going to make such a huge difference. Especially if you are so bad at doing it yourself.

>>8220501

i dated a chick who grew up on a farm that had dairy cows... and i vaguely remember her telling me once that you can get milk without it affecting calves negatively... since a cow (if it's being milked regularly) can keep producing milk after the calf doesn't need it... that kinda shit doesn't happen when things are done on a larger scale cuz it would get in the way of production... shit like that just can't be done ethically on a large scale if what you care about is solely profit

and the problems with those industries large scale extend really far beyond the quality of life the animals have, the products themselves have all kinds of shit in them from the way animals are kept and the workers are generally treated really poorly too + highly unsanitary conditions

people make everything into an identity now... i don't really have an attachment to the label honestly, it's just convenient if someone else is feeding me... ethical vegans just tend to clash with everyone cuz they usually get preachy and have that moral superiority delusion going on (animals get killed to keep them from eating crops on large farms that grow produce on a massive scale) which makes them insufferable... they're easy enough for me to deal with though cuz ultimately they don't disagree with my dietary habits and clothing choices etc so pointing out that they're just nitpicking usually works

the heat kills some bacteria so the shells are safer to eat... they're loaded with calcium and some people actually grind them up and eat them, i never have personally but yeah... they're good for plants too

>>8220622

+ also this >>8220539

she said something along those lines before too...

>>8220618
Rather, it was closed all week

>>8220533

iv drugs are made in a way where they need to be injected... that being said technically you could plug them and absorb a decdnt amount, that's the non iv option

>>8220611
Depends. My insurance covers it, so the difference is like $10/mo for injectable versus $25-50/mo for gel. Depending on your financial situation that isn't too bad.

>>8220636

decent*.

i know cuz of iv valium not t, but i don't see why it'd be any different...

>>8220636
testosterone is IM not IV

hi hello
i hope you're all doing ok

>>8220690
what is difference?

>>8220690

yeah, my bad i just associate needles with "iv" ... but anyway, injectable shit can be used without injecting it if you plug it...

>>8220701
Intramuscular not intravenous. You're trying to get it in a muscle not a vein.

>>8220701
IV goes in your veins and is short for intravenuous, IM goes in your muscles and is short for intramuscular.

>>8220701

no difference when it comes to what i said, but when you're actually injecting it's different...

Brooklyn do you have any experience with licking toads?

>>8215845
Anything else I should prepare myself for when I get my appointments at a GIC? I'll just come out and ask - what am I gonna need to say /specifically/ so I can jump through their hoops and get delicious T ?

>>8220777

nah, but i'm pretty sure it's only certain kinds of toads that can even get you high... and then the high varies depending on species, cuz i know there's a species of toad (i think it's i south america) that produces an opiate like toxin rather than a psychedelic one which is typically what's associated with toads...

i've heard the trip isn't pleasant and the dosing is risky... if you're really curious i'd check out erowid and see if there's a section on toads...

>>8220846
Never heard of that. Thanks.

>>8220846

i think it was a toad anyway... the opiate like high i mean... i watched some doc a while back where people tied a toad up then poked it with sticks to get high and they were saying it felt like a strong opiate... i mostly just remember cuz i felt bad for it but part of me was like "well it it feels like that..."

regardless though you can't just grab any toad and get high...

>>8220866

np... erowid's actually a really great resource for drug info cuz not only is there a lot of comprehensive info, but there's a lot of user content and people sharing their personal experiences with all kinds of drugs... it's divided up too so you can see first times, bad trips, good trips etc

bluelight can be good for info too

>>8220877
nah but in european witchcraft they used common toad to get high and there's loads of those right now, mating. i came across at least 14 couples/orgies while walking in the woods today. Pervy little things. I'm thinking I should collect while they are out and about.

The toad you're mentioning is probably Colorado river toad if erowid's sources are any good. That's what most of the info is on.

>>8220893
Thanks again. this is great.

>>8220916

didn't know that... interesting, was it part of specific rituals? know anything about them?

wouldn't hurt to collect them whether or not you decide to give it a try... i can't imagine actually picking up an animal and then licking it though personally... the high would have to be amazing and even then it'd probably be a really sad process... i guess you could probably rinse the toad off with running water for a bit and then agitate it further before you licked it...

the one i saw the doc on was only in a small region, but the one on erowid is the one that's in the states i guess...

np

>>8209654
Curious, what do you say when people ask about your "burn"?

>ftm srs
Sup dudes, phallo vs meta? Assuming that money was no option?

>>8220822
You mean excluding the presenting as male soon as possible to bypass RLE?

The only thing I would say, is just be yourself. Unironically. If you are trans, that should come through on it's own. if it helps, think about your life thus far beforehand, highlight what moments indicate you were trans and rehearse the narrative before you go in. From personal experience, I can say there are things you can play up and exaggerate, but lying may come back to bite you.

For example, before I got my appointment, I'd been reading up on advice back on 420chan and they told me that you needed to tell them you needed to be accepted by your family. In retrospect, I think the wording was a little ambiguous and what they had meant was you need to be out to your family (and this was back when you needed RLE, too), not they need to support you. So I told them everyone was fine....only for my mum to write a letter to the clinic saying she was so worried about me etc. In the end it didn't actually cause any damage, they were like you're an adult and she will have to deal with your decision (they didn't reply to her, ofc, because privacy, just in case anyone with paranoia is wondering). So, yeah, you might not have an obsessive mom, but either way, the point is if you tell a lie it may come up again later and you're gonna have to think fast.

So stick to just embellishing. I never really felt a lot of physical dysphoria because I was lucky with my build, but I told them I'd felt depressed during puberty about it anyway, just to tick the boxes. The one thing that may be good to lie about, if you can, is what you're doing with your life. They like to know people are active in society, so if you're NEET just tell them you're aiming to go to college or something. If you have no plans for the future, then find some, learn them well, and stick to them even if you're not that interested on following through.

>>8221022
Depends. I have some friends who I'm stealth with, and obviously they saw this process occur. So I went with a lie about a bike accident, which everyone seems to believe. If I meet people who are unlikely to come into contact with this group of people then I just say it's for a skin graft. Which is the truth and the vast majority of people don't ask where. Except from a few medical professionals (most nurses haven't chased up), only one guy (a mechanic) asked where it was for, and he kinda got the vibe immediately that it was for the dick. Most people are just like, oh right as soon as I say skin graft and don't follow it up.

>>8221036
Having only ever had one, I can only give you one account. If money is no option then you have to take into account surgery and surgeons where you are (so, travel if you only live near shit ones.) Phallo takes more surgery and greater recovery. Is it worth it? In my opinion 100% yes. Pissing is great. Having a massive dick is great. Sensation is still there - can't speak for sex yet though. Although I heard you can use multiple condoms to get stiffness, but I'm not convinced, but I might have to try this if I can get my friend drunk enough 2bh.

I noticed there were a few UK lads in the thread. How many of you guys have applied for your gender recognition certificate?
I'm in the process of gathering the medical records for it at the moment, and trying to find a good, but cheap solicitor who's hopefully dealt with trans people before.
Any advice, tips...? It's taking me such a long time to get through it.

>>8220981
the rituals depended a lot on where it was since the traditions were so different. But we can't be sure what the actual use was compared to what tortured people said to make pain stop. It can be that a lot of the stories are made up nonsense that people said because they had heard rumors of 'witches' doing that stuff and when they needed the torture to stop, that's what they said.

I know the devil's coat of arms had three toads, and that toads around people, on your property or near your belongings, meant that you were a witch/wizard/devil-worshiper.

I'm not going to wash the toads. just rub them a bit and scrape off the white. Apparently, from what I just read, you can dry it and smoke it. I'm going to try it wet first though, and low dose so I don't kill myself. It affects the heart muscle apparently, along with hallucinations.

>>8221163
Why would you want it?

>>8221178
Why would I want a big F on my passport next to my male name, male picture, etc..?

>>8221161
You're not getting the pump and rod implant so you can get erections, or is that coming at a later stage in the surgery? You did mention it was unfinished, after all.

>>8221109
Sounds like I'm on the right track already, then. I present male, I'm out to my wife (not family/friends yet), have a job, go to the gym...

I think I'll definitely benefit from listing all the "ok I'm trans" eureka moments. Thanks for the advice buddy.

>>8221197
Because you can get a great big M on your passport without a gender recognition certificate. I know I did, and I don't think it's been changed since.

>>8221211
I am, I'm just waiting on my last surgery is what I meant.

>>8221161
I'm definitely leaning towards phallo, but I'm obviously terrified of never having sensation, god forbid I can never cum again I think I'd rather die. What's wanking like for you?

>>8221163
No where near that stage yet. Still waiting for GIC referral.

>>8221220
Interesting. I'm applying for a new passport and all the information I've read on the gov website says I need to have a gender recognition certificate to have M on my passport.
How did you get around it?

>>8221036
I'd probably rather go with phallo, because it's actually usable for sex, but I'm really unsure about bottom surgery as is because I'm a wimp about this kind of stuff. I'd hate to have a huge scar on my arm, too. Although I think I'll definitely get bottom surgery in the next 10 or so years. I have plenty of time to think.

>>8221234
Where are you from?

I must admit, it's not like wanking, and I doubt where you will ever be able to climax from something like wanking. It needs to be a fucking motion to come - I mean, I may not even be able to climax from sex yet, I don't know. I get myself off by dry humping.

>>8221214
Good luck with it, I've heard waiting times are ridiculously long, so all the best. And I hope you don't get sent to Nottingham.

>>8221241
iirc, I had the exact same problem when I was doing mine. But I didn't...I ended up sending them a letter from my tranny clinic doctor, and I think I needed some other male name proof like a bank statement or something. Can't remember entirely. Let me read through it again and I'll get back to you.
>>8221269
It doesn't have to be taken from your arm. And If you're into tattoos it can be covered.

>>8221241
Yeah,
Send one of the following when you apply for a passport:

a Gender Recognition Certificate
a new birth or adoption certificate showing your acquired gender
a letter from your doctor or medical consultant confirming your change of gender is likely to be permanent
If you’re sending a letter from your doctor or medical consultant and you’re changing your name, you’ll also need to supply both of the following:

evidence of your change of name (such as a deed poll)
evidence that you’re using your new name (for example a payslip, or a letter from your local council)

So a certificate would do it, but if you can get a letter from your clinic, that will do too.

>>8221168

yeah that's a fair point, torture doesn't exactly get the best info results...

i know toads are associated with that shit frequently, but i've never really thought about any of the details surrounding it...

yeah nah i figured you wouldn't and i imagine most people don't that's why i said me doing that would just be sad... cuz you know... ocd crazy

usually (idk if it's the same with this) but when you smoke something it lowers your chances of overdoing it cuz smoking isn't the best way to get the most out of drugs... so the other way might be safer...

i should probably avoid shit like that 'til i see a doctor again... my heart flutters and shit sometimes + what i have can affect it so who knows at this point? i'm supposed to be going to the doctor for regular check ups once a month technically, but i haven't cuz the move back to brooklyn fucked with my insurance situation... i fixed it, but i was heavy on heroin so i didn't go, and now that i moved again i gotta deal with the insurance shit... it takes me forever to do things cuz i'll just get disracted by anything and everything and find things i have to do more irritating than things that i'm not obligated to take care of...

>>8221277

if it really looks like a burn at this point that's not gonna just be an easy cover... especially an area that scarred/big... cuz skin textures and ink doesn't go into skin like that as well

>>8221296
Hey, thanks for looking into that for me dude, you've saved me a lot of hassle and a bit of money to boot.
Although it makes me wonder why they even have a gender recognition certificate when it isn't even necessary.
I would've needed to get a letter from my doctor for the certificate anyway, plus another medical report from a different doctor.

>>8221320
Mine looks like a burn because I healed fucked up. The topside is fine, and I could get it covered, it's just one patch on the underside. My tissue was healing too much and that's why it's come up as a big scar. Everybody else I've seen, be it at the hospital, or at the clinic, or in pictures, don't have a scar like I do. They have a scar around the edge and discoloured skin, but I just got unlucky. I'm not normal.

>>8221350
Maybe at one point only the certificate was valid, but perhaps it's been relaxed since. The only other purpose I know for getting it, is to get an updated birth certificate - but what's the point in that when you can change all your practical documents anyway.

>>8221364

well... i was talking about yours specifically, i thought he was saying yours would be an easy cover up and it wouldn't be cuz of that part of the scar... i'm aware not everyone heals the same, and i know tattooing over scars has its limits...

>>8221378

+ i just misread and thought it was about the burn looking scar not just scars from it in general...

>>8221378
Oh no, I don't care about mine. I just meant it is an option on the table because he said he didn't want a scar.

I'm sure you are right, I know nothing about tattooing over scars, but I have seen a cover up and - at least from a normal viewing distance it looks fine.

>>8221277
No tattoos as of yet, because I'm indecisive about that sort of thing, but I wouldn't mind some in the future, maybe to cover the chest scars at first.
Either way though, I'm quite hairy and practically any donor site would need shaving or electrolysis. Arms especially so.
Although my main reason for being uncertain is that it's such a complicated procedure either one you get, with risks and recovery times. As I said before I'm a wimp. Conceptually I can deal with having something taken off the surface of my body, like breasts. But going in and re-arranging internal organs, taking them out, it literally makes me feel dizzy. I'm sure I'll get past that someday though, but first to get top surgery out of the way..

>>8221441

yeah i understand now... i have a tendency to skip over words and shit when i'm reading, fucks my shit up sometimes...

apparently with certain kinds of scars the needle can't properly penetrate to put the ink in... on top of that you need a good artist cuz there's certain shading techniques and shit that make it less noticeable

>>8221481
>But going in and re-arranging internal organs, taking them out,
So you wouldn't want a hysterectomy?
Also, are you in the UK too?

>>8221493
Unless they just tattoo in between the scar. As it's taken out like a rectangle, if they just put the sleeve in between the scar, and then make it look like part of the border, it might not need any work done on the actual scar, idk. If that makes sense, anyway.

>>8221526

like work the scar into the design? that'd work, yeah...

>>8207794
Super late, but i'm affraid this will happen with my current bf once I start transitioning (haven't been able to due to economical situation). We've been together for ~5 years now so it could either go really well or end up in disaster

>>8221526
>So you wouldn't want a hysterectomy?
Realistically I know it'll be a medical necessity in the future but the idea of it unsettles me, honestly.
>Also, are you in the UK too?
I'm actually the anon from earlier who asked about the gender recognition certificate process, so yes!

>>8221580
If it helps, the hysterectomy isn't a big operation. They can do it using keyhole. You don't HAVE to have it done if you really don't want. It's not necessary for the phallo at all, but obviously there is a risk of getting cancer there from testosterone exposure.

I will say that the team at St Peter's really know what they're doing. I don't know how up to date the information you have is (because mine was terrible, even from the GIC), but they've been doing it for so many years now that a lot of the risks are totally minimised. They've really optimised the procedure, and I hope that that will put your mind at rest a little for when you get round to deciding about having it done.

>got a syringe for free
Got it covered for a week at least.

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Any other latinamerican bros around here? Or are anglos the only ones around?

>>8221716

i'm puerto rican/cuban/italian... not anglo

>>8221752

+ from what i know about my family both puerto rican grandparents and the cuban one are spanish heritage for the most part... i'm sure there was mixing cuz that's how it tends to go, but i know that generally they were from spain rather than native... the italian side is from naples so mixed there too i'm sure...

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>>8221277
>Where are you from?
England...no idea what srs is like on the NHS...
Could you describe the feeling more compared to what it was like before? How long since the op? Are you likely to get more sensation?

>>8221548
Apparently there's plenty of us worried about this
Could it be we're just paranoid?

>>8221716
I'm Argentinian boludo

>>8218548
Actually Austin has an informed consent clinic now.

http://kindclinic.org/gender-care-services/

I'd call now to find out when they'd be available, I heard there may be some kind of wait for appointments.

Also, if you need just a -doctor- that will prescribe you hormones, which is what it sound like, I know a cis gay doctor that works on the informed consent model. Check if Terrance Hines takes your insurance.

>>8217748
Hey, can I ask why you recommend that Harle guy? San Antonio isn't great for making it clear on who is reliable as a resource to trans people.

..also it's about time I got the bits checked again.