Learn to be yourself, not what you think others want you to be.
•Makeup for beginners: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
•Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
•Correct hormone levels: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
•Checking your levels: http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
•Reducing Muscle http://www.trans-health.com/2001/lose-muscle-gain-fat-dieting-for-mtfs/
•Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
•Transition time lines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
•Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
•Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
•IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
old thread >>8160256
>>8162248
>being one's self
That's a bad advice for this place.
Stay positive /mtfg/
Learn to be thinn, not what the thicc memers want you to be
just got back from the kink fair
got a fresh birch flogger tailored to fit and made on the spot by this dude
got some giant clothespegs and a couple of low-temp waxplay candles too, talked to some people, it was fun :)
(the flogger is wrapped in clingfilm in the pic to preserve moisture while in storage, the birch is brined for four hours but if it dries out too much it gets brittle)
>>8162248
>tl;dr i'm a slut
stupid cis whores
>>8162256
THICC
>>8162255
This :D
>>8162251 (Spicy)
That's good! Because it's shit, lol.
>>8162150
I am 6'1", weigh almost 190, and my bf percentage is around 11-13
do you consider that fat?
>>8162206
I never found you attractive and I never wanted you, definitely not enough to bend over backwards for your sorry ass like your small army of thirsty beta orbiters
that's what this whole thing is about, you're so narcissistic and full of yourself that you can't even fathom the possibility of a guy not falling for you and obeying every little command that you've waged a hate campaign against me for LITERALLY ALMOST TWO YEARS and in the process you've lost all your closest friends and resorted to making shit up to get a rise out of me because you're the only one left
also
>it went from fat to just overweight when called out for proof
make up your mind you vindictive cave troll
>>8162256
this
>>8162258
This desu
>>8162259
>tfw don't consider myself fat anymore just flabby
the thicc lobby can't beat me
>>8162254
I want to cummy in anzu
>>8162258
You sound jealous.
>>8162278
Am i supposed to want to look like that?
Pic related is peak female performance
>>8162282
A G P
i bought all the ingredients to make some vegan chocolate chip cookies and they're going to be amazing
which is fortunate because i'm really fucking sad now, my lil babby cousin is in the hospital and it's not good
>>8162275
hey flabby i'm saggy nice to meet you
>>8162282
>Anime
yes birry do not reproduce
>>8162286
NO I DON'T SAG
>>8162277
Pls don't talk like that. Anzu is pure...unlike most of this thread.
>>8162289
I want to cummy in you!
>>8162282
You are supposed to be at least 18 to post here.
And not be Welsh.
i can't make my cookies until my roommate finishes recording his friends' guitar session and i'm REALLY goddam sad rn i need cookies
>>8162287
well i fukkin do
better than still being a giant butter troll tho
>>8162295
Being a tranny does not meant you have to be socially inept.
Hey thread! What's going on today? Anything fun happen at church and/or other sunday related activities?
>>8162282
>peak female performance
step aside
>>8162307
You sure about that? :^)
>>8162308
I thought I filtered you
What do I do when there's no meaning left in life and would prefer to jump off a bridge
>>8162313
do a flip
How do I get used to wearing a bra?
I know Time is a factor but is there anything else?
I wear Sport/Croptop Bras.
>>8162309
oh good my giant legs are "peak" female cool
desu colorado is pretty peaky
>>8162289
>Implying that a woman's sexual ownership of her body makes her a worse person.
Christfag pls
>>8162319
>desu colorado is pretty peaky
Heh.
Mountains.
>>8162312
Try harder
>>8162325
does a slut own her sexuality or does her sexuality own her (hint for your 79 IQ, it's the latter)
>>8162327
i can see them out my window
THIS is peak gender spectrum performance
How to tell when someone hates you?
>>8162335
bill nye the science gay haha
>>8162331
but why though?
so you can post your dick again whenever you want and everyone has to see it?
>>8162319
Thick ass quads are hot
>>8162334
Aren't there like 3 anons in Colorado? I know 1 is in the springs but I think there are a few(?) in denver.
>>8162308
I went to my cousins birthday party/emotional prison and all the strangers kept looking at me.
>>8162332
Drake please, you're living in a fantasy world. You should like go out and socialize with people similar to you
>>8162335
that show is legitimately cancerous
>>8162287
Why do you meme memes you don't even really believe in?
>>8162335
post your gender abacus configs girls
>>8162338
>Be me
>Post
Drake and angry basement caveman repressed tranny posts mean stuff at you.
Just like any overt signs of hostility, put downs, you know. You'll feel it
>>8162307
Wrong
>>8162361
if you didn't constantly change your name, I would never comment on a single one of your posts
it just defies logic that you want people who dislike you to see all the awful things you say and all the disgusting pictures you post
>>8162311
ayy...
>>8162344
mine are getting pretty big, i need a road bike and a hillier route for max muscle (or i could start lifting but EH) desu my legs already look a lot like the girl on the orange bike's
>>8162347
i don't ever see them if there are
there's a trip every now and then but i think she's smart enough not to snort/inject mtfg and i haven't seen her in a bit
>>8162352
i believe in memes as a form of expression and as an artform
>>8162214
Its best to keep me at arms distance, but few people have the discipline to do that.
>>8162216
Yeah hes kind of a loser but he was nice at first so I liked him.
>>8162238
Its rediculously easy, you just put the stuff in it and let it cook. PRactically effortless. I wanna try making chili with it
>>8162264
Listen Bird, if you wanted to pretend that you dont find me attractive then you shouldnt have tried to beg me for cyber sex again.
Overweight is synonmous with fat, you can tell how you're a fucking tub lard cause you make that distinction to feel better about yourself.
Birdie you a fat fuck.
>>8162341
Your argument is badly constructed, it starts as a personal complaint but suddenly it becomes a matter of a popular need.
Chill out bby. Come out to your parents, gwt on hormones, lose weight and stop masturbating to pictures of transgirls on mtfg and I swear you won't mind me.
If it's any cnsolation I won't be posting that again
>Inb4 barrage of sass screenshot posts/pics to try to sway public opinion
>>8162372
Perhaps I am mistaken, but I thought I saw a few posts about people living in Denver on 4/20 for obvious reasons.
>>8162378
Do you think young people are losing appreciation of memes due to modern saturation of meme's?
>>8162382
can you just stop changing your name?
I literally don't care about ""public opinion""
I just don't want to see the posts of a very large muscular 40 year old man who takes hormones because agp and who has posted pictures of his penis
>>8162391
you gotta be on the forefront always looking to expand your horizons in search of new topics and macros
>>8162380
>>8162238
>tfw no instant pot
those things are cool af, who needs a slow cooker when you got an automated pressure cooker
>>8162385
i rly wasn't on mtfg on 4/20 so maybe i missed them, i'm here pretty regularly tho and mention denver often enough so they're probably not very regular
>>8162391
I've actually thought about this. It's like memes aren't memes for memes sake anymore.
>changing your name every time you post
just woman up and let the people who hate you filter you instead of dedicating yourself to being the most annoying cunt you possibly can be
>>8162380
>still arguing with birdy
how do I stop sadposting
I feel claustrophobic
>>8162398
What's it like in Denver? In terms of like...acceptance, I've been looking to move away from Texas and it seemed like the least bad place that is also closest to me.
>>8162396
Seriously. Stop harassing me. I don't know who you are and I've tried to quell you beef you have against me.
Seriously stop being a creep. Stop with my post screenshots, stop saving my pics, stop replying to me.
Stop.
>>8162380
Slow cooker chili is fantastic my mom used to use hers for it all the time
Idk, I think it really stands out with stew I made a pretty solid beef and lentil stew earlier this month. Make stuff in quantity and freeze it, that's the way to do it.
>>8162398
Idk it's about letting them cook slow and low and letting those flavors mingle thoo.
>>8162401
Wait aren't you burch? I thought I filtered you.
finally "came out" to my dad, it went really well i guess
>>8162412
yay hugg
>>8162406
Happy thoughts.
>>8162412
Come on! Details!
>>8162412
What about ur jewish lodge?
>>8162408
stop changing your fucking name and let people fucking filter you jesus christ
not sure why you're acting like some poor helpless victim when you're going out of your way to do everything in your power to force everyone to see your posts
>>8162380
jesus christ why are you so obsessed with me dude
my benis is really hard
>>8162406
Read fluffy stories.
>>8162425
c-can i taste it?
>>8162409
i stopped using that name like three months ago
>>8162429
my feminine benis would love to partake in an adventure
i just had a glass of pickle juice.
weirdly satisfying
>>8162433
>feminine
ehhhh
sure let's taste the rainbow
>>8162435
Are you sad again Evangayline?
>>8162437
.......i'd heard the memes but does spiro really make you do this
>>8162380
Seems like you're the loser if you're still attacking him because he didn't call someone ugly for you two years ago. Really makes me think.
>>8162441
idk if it was spiro
>>8162437
I thought it was just a meme until I tried it, bretty good honestly
>>8162407
that's why i'm here, pretty much. denver is a very accepting city, it's trendy and cool to be progressive so people try hard. i came from the suburbs outside of houston, it's a lot nicer
it's not the pnw but pretty close, considering
>>8162409
>practical application of ideal gas laws
>made by canucks
>don't have to remember to start it early af
really it's better than a crock pot in like every way... i don't think there's anything you can do in a slow cooker that you can't accomplish with high pressure and there's tons you can do with a pressure cooker that you just can't otherwise
>>8162440
yeah i used to ride "competitively" when i was in college (i was slow though)
>>8162422
Stop harassing me creep.
You can't tell me what to do or what not to do, get it through your thick skull.
Stop with the harassment.
>>8162429
that's so gay
>>8162441
it's being female that does it...I've always had a taste for pickles, but it is much stronger when on hormones.
>>8162438
>tfw baited elanna with the benis
id love to give you sum luvin bb
>>8162450
And you shut the fuck up and stop changing your name, fucking creep, you manage to be worse than the people stalking you, jesus christ
>>8162439
yes :(
>>8162446
almost as good as a nice tart crunchy pickle.
>>8162443
moap thinks being a vain bitch makes him more of a woman
>>8162454
same.
beni syōga is absolutely amazing
>>8162449
I'll consider it a lot more when I look to move then, I want to get away from the heat and I have always wanted to go skiing!
>>8162450
>says I can't tell you what to do
>in the next line tells me what to do
really got me thinkin man
maybe stop trying to make everyone see your posts if you don't want negative things said to you
believe me I'd very much like to pretend you don't exist and that I haven't seen your penis
but again you do everything you can to make that as difficult as possible
>>8162449
>ideal gas law
Reee don't get me started on that
I mean the starting it early af is an advantage in my mind. You put on your food before you go to work and come back and have dinner.
>>8162452
No is straight
>>8162455
You found my weakness
>>8162458
Is it a general tranny malaise or has something happened?
>>8162466
can i show you my penis?
>>8162463
i fucking LOVE the weather here incidentally. it doesn't get too miserably cold and most of the precip is in the mountains, so snow isn't a big problem. it's not humid at all and sunny like 300 days of the year
>>8162468
what if you sleep in etc.
crock pots are cheaper tho, there is that, but if i had decently remunerative employment i'd buy an instant pot yesterday
>>8162468
will you be my gf now?
>>8162473
at least you have the decency to ask and not just post it in this SFW thread where several regulars are under 18
>>8162476
>what if you sleep in etc.
I mean my problem these days has been waking up early rather than the opposite
>if i had decently renumerative employment
welp looks like crock pots for me
>>8162478
I just want penis tho I don't want relationship with a girl that's gay ;~;
>>8162482
it's not like i was actually going to anyway
>>8162486
ok ok ok
you can take my benis virginity but beware its very feminine
>>8162264
>I am 6'1", weigh almost 190, and my bf percentage is around 11-13
If that were the case, you should have the body of pic related
>>8162449
when I round the right gearing to pedal cadence, I was competitive speed wise, and could outdistance most. Then dancing took over...
>>8162456
just ignore her and stop filling the thread with trash posts.
>>8162462
There was one I could get on Long Island that I loved, but I forget its' name. They were small 2" long by 3/8" wedges and were ultra crisp. They also had a nice bite to them.
Don Cherry is basically Anchorman but in real life
>>8162489
Who's gonna top?
>>8162491
i wish i had the money to go shopping for food stuff. all i have left now is pickle juice, rice, & some condiments.
i'm all out of mayo too ;~;
>>8162486
>I just want penis tho I don't want relationship with a girl that's gay ;~;
But it's fine, because you're gay???
>>8162496
me ofc
my benis is raging for some neo vagina wink wink ;)))))
WHEN DO THE BAD FEELS STOP
>>8162502
literally never
>>8162471
I just feel bad
>>8162501
Well shit
Does it make me a chaser if I kinda want to be topped by a trans girl?
>>8162498
i actually feel the same way she does
i really want to be a housewife omg, i'd be an amazing mommy and cook yummy healthy meals and everything :/
>>8162486
they're cheaper than i expected really ($80+), but i'd want the bluetooth enabled $180 model
>>8162491
i mostly just like going places and bust my ass for the cardio aspects
i could try running, that'd be okay, but i need new running shoes and would rather spend the money toward a tourable road bike, i wanna take a week and ride 500-600 miles through this state
>>8162502
the ride never ends https://youtu.be/mvPIvoJkmGs
>>8162414
:3
>tfw ur dad gives headpats
>>8162420
my jewish what?
>>8162419
idk we just talked about surgeries and i kind of downplayed my interest or desire for them and about the difficulties of being trans and i kind of explained about being stealth and how i wanted that and why it took me so long to tell him and stuff
>>8162512
ye absolutely
but its all daijoubu
this is pure love
>>8162512
Just a little, but it's okay.
>>8162513
Ali, I think I have some news for you.
I just found out I have to wait to at least September just to see a gender therapist, and apparently you have to be in therapy for a year before you get to start HRT. Tranny life is full of sad feels sometimes.
>>8162525
start self medding
>>8162525
just self med
>>8162525
euro or something?
>>8162524
i'd only want trantrans for the peen.
nothing else.
not really interested in ciswomen, frankly
>>8162524
but, jeez.
i really want some cake :(
>>8162524
It's like borderline gay tho lets be real
I mean
It's not like I've ever been topped by a tranny...r-right?
>>8162522
just like in my mangoes!
>>8162482
Posters under 18 shouldn't be here. global rule 1.
>Also
The children someone please think about the children
>Mfw
>>8162549
WHERE YOU AT I WANT THE BOOTY
>>8162525
you can DIY and also continue pursuing the legitimate route if you'd prefer
>>8162545
I don't post here to be liked by anybody.
Like me or don't like me, that's your problem
>>8162551
i don't get why people are so gay about the age rule here
it's a blue board anyway, there are places to post your pron
people who want to be here should be here, the age thing is for shitty normie society
>>8162543
>>8162547
Only gays can eat the gayke, or else it turns you gay.
>>8162549
So your NB ex doesn't count~?
>>8162547
Cake is bad for you, mmmkay.
>>8162551
Why are you being such a dick and make it hard to filter you? Do I have to use search operators on yo' bony ass?
>>8162563
Yeah, I don't care about underage posters until they start threatening to commit suicde or posting cutting images
>>8162566
N-no
They do
I've been both topped by a girl and topped by a tranny
And I liked it
>>8162528
>>8162533
>>8162545
>>8162559
I would have started that years ago if I had the money. Maybe I could take a second job to be able to afford it.
>>8162567
Do what you have to.
>>8162582
do what you gotta do senpai.
dont let your memes be dreams
>>8162573
Just accept the girl lust, Elann!
>>8162574
That you should eat the gayke, obviously.
>>8162556
BC
Canada
>>8162551
>posts dick on a blue board
>cites rules of 4chan
you never cease to amaze me
Hi.
>>8162502
Hey Beep, i think people are really starting to not like me here.
Lol.
What should I do?
>>8162596
Stop changing your name you colossal fucktard
>>8162594
Please stop stalking me.
>>8162596
stop changing your name every post in an effort to avoid filters
>>8162591
I don't want to accept the girl lust
;_;
>>8162595
Hey.
>>8162603
Obviously. Why would you feel bad about it?
>already sad
>end up throwing up in shower again
>drop pizza on floor
I should just go to sleep
>>8162604
why do you want me to see your posts so badly?
>>8162594
Please stop stalking me creep
>>8162502
after we kiss
>>8162609
Why? It's so soft and warm.
>>8162614
Hugg. That's awful. :c
>>8162609
don't listen to her
boy love is pure
>>8162582
it's not that bad
idk, if you stay on a low dose you could probably get it for 400-500$ a year
but that's from inhousepharmacy
on QHI it's probably cheaper
>>8162610
I wish I had a bunch of human skulls on a shelf.
>>8162318
Anyone?
>>8162610
idk.
not interested in vagine, or anything that looks like it has vagine.
i want a penis-haver, but not a penis-haver that looks enough like one to eligible for having more than 1 penis.
he look enough like penis-haver to have @ least half a penis.
maybe i just just find a """"lesbian"""" w/ a penis?
Girl love is the best kind
>Get together with ex gf at her house
>Make her spaghetti amatriciana
>drinking wine
>Having fun times
>she puts her hand down her panties
>wipes vaginal fluid on my nose
>turn beet red
>you like this don’t you, you dirty girl
>You’re a dirty girl aren’t you
>start kissing
>Go to guest bedroom
>get naked
>fooling around
>Gets up angrily
>Your cock is useless, it can’t even get hard
>You’re all skinny, your breasts are small
>this is what you get for wanting to be a girl
>storms out of the room and locks herself in the master bedroom
My life is a sissy novel ;_;
this is getting out of hand
>>8162318
>>8162641
are they ill fitting bras? that could be it. but if its just the general irritation of wearing a bra, theres nothing you can do but get used to it.
make sure your bras are fitted right though
I just applied for a job at Albertsons
I'm pretty sure I'll get it
Then I can pay for hormones, feels naisu
>>8162318
You just... get used to it over time.
>>8162638
Real or fake ones?
>>8162643
Sounds like a plan, honestly. Try to seduce a femboy.
>>8162648
Your mom and I raised you so well.
>>8162650
Yeah, and?
is it weird if you don't mind gay porn but you're personally really uncomfortable with men
>>8162652
>filtering best girls amy & cindy
jealousy much?
>>8162651
>>8162635
That seems resonable. Maybe I can do this!
>>8162648
Girl's are best for friendship, but guys are too cute to not be the best to love.
>>8162670
the reason i don't want QHI is i've heard they can take up to 3 months
inhouse is safe and clean but overpriced to hell and back
gatekeeping is bullshit, don't let that stop you
>>8162663
Amy is literally Spartan and Cindy is 15.
>>8162660
congrats :D
now i feel bad for myself.
i'll have a lot of time soon though.
we'll achieve our liberation eventually.
it's only a matter of time
>>8162676
bica is 90 cents a day from inhouse if you take 25mg
i think it's something like 60 if you order from QHI
cypro is a bit pricey desu
>>8162650
I just posted my name with the little "ª" because I thought it was cute and then some psycho stalker starts harassing me, acyssing me of wanting to evade their filters and start talking shit about me and posting my pictures. And this shit >>8162651
Come on Elanna, you know me better than this.
>>8162684
yeah but
feels good nuking yer balls
>>8162648
I agree desu <3
>>8162097
>You don't even like girls for the most part, lel.
I feel like I only like guys because I didn't try hard enough with girls
Even tho I feel little physical attraction.
I grieve for the loss of a heteronormative life. which in my mind. Seems like the apex of life achievement.
>>8162100
Yeah :-: I guess
>>8162693
when i get dysphoric i want to but i'm already suicidally depressed all the time so it's probably not a great idea
>>8162662
Hmm.... It might be cool to have a real one. But that might also be kind of creepy. I'd take fake ones.
>>8162707
oh because of cypro depression?
true it's definitely not very fun
>>8162690
yes, for you have never said before you're doing it so people can't filter you
and this is totally the first variation of your retarded name that you've used
also you literally typed that story out and called your life a sissy novel, then asked why people said it was agp
>tfw you get called a transphobe in your college class because your critique of Marxist economics "focuses on the aspects of Marxist economics that are necessary to end transphobia"
>tfw you explain that you're not a transphobe because you're a transsexual with a diagnosis and everything and that wouldn't make any sense
>tfw the other person in the class discussion accuses you of lying about being trans to "cover for your bigotry"
What is my life?
>>8162318
Are bras really that bad?
Asking because I might need them pretty soon
(I've been on low-dose HRT for quite some time, I'll start full-dose eventually)
>>8162714
beep
>>8162722
If you get a bra that fits you it's totally fine. I've found a few that I'm comfortable wearing all day.
>>8162282
Nonce
>>8162722
i dunno what anon is talking about, bras are whatever
and how long? :/ you don't want to fuck up your puberty, you should start taking it normally now
>>8162690
I don't care, you've changed your name multiple times this thread and are being annoying as fuck.
Pick one name and stick with it, it's not just anons that want to filter you, I'd really rather not have to pick through yet another one of your meltdowns.
Can you drink alcohol on tranny meds? If not, I'm gonna have to make some life changes.
why do i look this masculine at 20 both my parents had weak jaws i read articles saying that kids had to parents at a later age were uglier
i look sick
>>8162660
Good job ^~^
You're gonna get even prettier <3
>>8162706
Just get onto that other side of the heteronormative life and get a cute husbando.
>>8162710
Either way, medical supply stores are your friend if you just want something realistic. If you want to be edgier get some crystal skulls.
>>8162719
A /pol/ meme, but so are all of our lives since Trump got elected.
>>8162735
idk I've drank pretty excessively and I haven't died yet
I'm sure its not a good thing though
>>8162719
https://youtu.be/ikgHjXwgsz8
>>8162736
nim you're cute
>>8162736
>i read articles saying that kids had to parents at a later age were uglier
pls stop torturing yourself but looking things like this up :(
it makes me really sad honestly
>>8162735
not much
>>8162719
you should have listed off your hrt regime
>>8162744
that video was excellent
>>8162773
darling nim
>>8162777
checc'd
>>8162730
I don't know why you are worried about this.
I have medical supervision via informed consent, it's usual to be on low-dose (starting with spiro only for a few months, then starting low-dose estrogen, eventually going full-dose)
>remembering that one time my mom got really angry at me and was screaming at me that it was physiologically impossible for two boys to have sex so I had to explain to her how anal sex works and she still didn't get it so I showed her a video of gay porn and the look on her face made me laugh so I hard I couldn't breathe and was rocking back and forth clapping my hands like a mute seal
>>8162773
nim stop :(
I wish I could help you stop focusing on stuff like this
even if you did "look different" because your parents were older when they had you I don't know why you're researching this information
>>8162713
yeah idk, i don't think i could handle worsened depression
most of the time i don't get genital dysphoria though
it might just be a symptom of my bipolar
>>8162789
If by "different" you mean "too timid to point out when you're being an idiot", then no, sorry, I'm not
Get your shit together sass, I come here to talk to adults, not overgrown children.
>>8162804
well that's why i asked how long, you said quite some time i was thinking like over a year
>>8162817
>come here to talk to adults
What
This place is filled to the brim with people that have the maturity level of a 14 year old girl, and then there are the actual 14 year olds
Sass is a retard though I'll agree with you on that
>>8162739
Excuse my English; I'm not from an English-speaking country. I used to be a pretty progressive person and even had some sympathies with democratic socialist parties elsewhere in the world, but honestly I've been slipping right in the past few years. Since my move to the big city for college, I have had so many awful experiences with leftists and have experienced their bullshit firsthand. I'm sick of their nonsense. The terms "racist" and "bigot" used to mean something and were reserved for people who are actually fucked up human beings, like actual Klansmen and Neo-Nazis. Now it's just basically a secular left wing synonym for "blasphemer." Even the word "Nazi" is this way now. They just call you a Nazi, even if you're a classical liberal or even left wing but not quite as left as they are.
>>8162744
What did I just watch? Who is this guy? Is this satire?
>>8162767
I had my estrogen pills in my purse because I have to take my second one of the day around 1PM. I should have showed it to this person as a way of telling them off. I hate this nonsense.
I know that this is a long shot, but I may as well try.
I've been looking to get into crossdressing, and I've been told that I could be passable if I tried, but I feel like I might do better with the help of a mentor of sorts.
Are there any willing people here who would be able to help me, preferably people with experience with crossdressing? I'd like to establish contact through Kik. Please be gentle. :)
>>8162817
damn
>>8162811
im researching it because i want to know why i look this way
>>>/pol/122515605
is this true? do guys really like thicc girls or is it yet another jewish ploy?
>>8162825
this is a tranny thread not a faggot thread. get out reeee
>>8162817
>>8162834
I want to be serious about it, but I can't pluck up the courage.
>>8162827
:(
I really really think things are gonna start getting better for you once you're in new york, seriously
or anywhere you end up going to school, the independence plus schoolwork is probably going to be really great for your overall happiness
>>8162823
The modern left's an Ouroboros in the west. It needs a good purge to be not shit again. Or it can continue to pursue inane ideas and alienate moderates, that's fine too.
>The terms "racist" and "bigot" used to mean something and were reserved for people who are actually fucked up human beings
>tfw fucked up human being
>>8162831
Some do, some don't.
>>8162836
serious about crossdressing?
just buy clothes a wig and makeup and see what works for you
or just cut your balls off or something idk
how old are you?
>>8162836
get on hrt. talk with other trans people. don't make it a fetish thing weirdo
here's a trans server: https://discord.gg/qjxGSxY they might be able to help you get on hrt
tfw one of your main flirt squeezes enters a mono relationship
;_;
>>8162825
This is mainly a transgender thread. We might help you but it's not the best place honestly.
There used to be a crossdressing thread but right now I don't see it. You could create a new one.
>>8162822
Ehhhh
There are always a handful of posters at any given time that are actual relateable adults.
Then there's people actually talking about tranny shit.
Let's be real the underage posters are usually cancer.
>>8162744
...what?
>>8162838
you can have some interesting conversations about being trans on /pol/ and its not just them asking to see your tits or telling you to kill yourself for being mentally ill
>>8162744
>>8162851
>Let's be real the underage posters are usually cancer
You can always tell who's underage and who is not pretty quick. The underage posters are awful.
>blaire white's livestream still hasn't gone up
I hope she's alright
her livestreams are /comf/ af
>>8162851
am i underage?
>>8162817
by different, I meant that a person that regularly shitposts playfully about sex/gender stuff and has regularly drug induced breakdowns would be a tad more understanding and less of a bitch.
so filter me already.
>>8162839
im getting bica soon, we'll see if i get my motivation back on it
i don't even feel excited about going to new york anymore, or a trip
>>8162868
>that shirt
>that hat
>that beer
b o y f r i e n d m a t e r i a l
>>8162877
estrogen is what fucks with your mood desu
my bipolar got worse on bica + estro
don't expect much besides libido IMO
>>8162884
im not bipolar though
>>8162869
Hey, this is one of the very few places where early transitioners can discuss trans issues without being misinformed by trenders or gatekeepers worshipping hons. Sure, it's 4chan. Still, show them kindness. Early transitioners need all the support they can get.
>>8162851
wbm
>>8162884
im switching to injections soon as well
The only bad kind of posting is the "I can't change this about my life but I complain about it all the time instead of dealing with it" or worse "I can change this thing in my life I don't like but I don't want to work for it and it's easier to just whine about it".
>I will never be able to afford FFS abloo bloo
Well why not get a job?
>no i CANT U INSENSITIVE BIGOT MY ANXIETY IS SO BAD I CANT EVEN PROGRAM FREELANCE ONLINE OR WORK A MCJOB
Oh ok
>>8162877
I went through a super bad patch of lack of motivation and depression that I'm pretty sure was due to cypro...like I was kinda really thinking i was going to kill myself and I just wanted to lay around all day, I didn't care about school or anything
but now these last few weeks I've felt so much better! and I have energy again, I went exploring on a nature path I found near campus and the whole little adventure of climbing over trees and stuff just made me so happy! (and wish I had a bf to walk it with)
so idk just please don't give up nim seriously
>>8162900
you do this all the time
>>8162900
Dont be this kind of person.
>>8162889
i know but estrogen is what can cause mood instability
like women have much higher rates of histrionic and stuff too
idk
doesn't cypro depression stop after a few months? the only reason i could think of that you'd get less depressed is your brain would still get some T, but if you don't have any production left...
>>8162900
>>no i CANT U INSENSITIVE BIGOT MY ANXIETY IS SO BAD I CANT EVEN PROGRAM FREELANCE ONLINE OR WORK A MCJOB
people do say this often desu
many such cases
>>8162876
Sass, unlike you, I actually recognize when I've done something wrong, and feel bad about it.
You seem entirely incapable of self reflection or critical thought, hence why you assume that I'm a bitch for getting pissed off at you this -once- when I've suffered through your asinine nonstop spergouts for the past few months in total silence.
Fine, you're filtered, I hope you're pleased with yourself it was well and thoroughly earned.
>>8162872
If you have to ask..
>>8162884
how much worse does it get? a mania phase is already shitty without E
>>8162901
idk it's easier to say "don't give up" when you're not in my position but i appreciate the support
i haven't really left the house since my therapy appointment on thursday, glad you're feeling better though
>>8162900
Yeah fuck people for having problems and not looking at them in the most simplest, unhelpful ways.
>>8162906
idk
i think cypro might be lowering my T too much
>>8162900
At this point, I'm pretty much permanently banned from working. Granted, it's work that fucked me up that bad and I get a decent compensation for it.
Still, there are other people who are also too fucked up to work but only get very basic welfare, barely enough to survive decently, definitely not enough to save, even less to get a loan.
>>8162893
Hmm, you do have a good point here. I think this is the most unbiased place on the internet to discuss trans issues. I honestly don't mind if underagers lurk/ask questions, but when they start causing drama and shitposting hard that is when they get annoying.
>>8162900
>suicidal depression constantly
>medications take at least a month to know if they work
>already went through one that didn't do shit
gee i wonder why i'm not functioning haha
must be a personal problem right? haha guess i'll just stop being depressed, my bad
>>8162911
i'm hypomanic so my high periods are great
but it cycles a lot faster, like idk, i was going through an invincibility high for a week but then two days in a row i got incredibly dysphoric + depressed then was great the next morning again
>>8162909
>You seem entirely incapable of self reflection or critical thought, hence why you assume that I'm a bitch for getting pissed off at you this -once- when I've suffered through your asinine nonstop spergouts for the past few months in total silence.
>Fine, you're filtered, I hope you're pleased with yourself it was well and thoroughly earned.
its almost as thought sass only has an iq of 79 or something
>>8162900
You have the weirdest personality flips
>>8162900
it's nice to have somewhere to vent and complain about shit though
i think that's fine
>>8162913
from the perspective of hormones causing depression and nasty moods, you really really shouldn't give up because it WILL get better
>i haven't really left the house since my therapy appointment on thursday
this probably doesn't help depression :(
I know its a cycle thing, where depression causes you to not want to go out, and I think then not going out contributes to depression
thats why I'm hoping/thinking living on or near campus and being a full-time student could really help change that for you!
>>8162909
i still want in on you
people have problems and this might be the only place they have to vent
just because you can't relate to the problem doesn't mean it isn't real for them, you just can't relate
>>8162931
Don't lie to her, sometimes it doesn't get better
Take that coddle shit back to kindergarten
>>8162902
Do I? I try not to since problems are meant to be overcome. I think any problem I vocalize is usually psychlogical and can't just be overcome through willpower and work and time or I'm already actively working towards fixing.
>>8162905
If there's something in your life you don't like you should work towards changing it. If you simply cannot you should make the best of what you have. Am I wrong?
>>8162914
I never said there's nothing wrong with having problems, it's when you actively refuse to do anything about it or improve your life that it really sucks.
>>8162930
post your feet
>>8162940
literally read what I said, I'm not just blindly saying "it gets better"
its not unheard of that people get (more) depressed after starting hormones, but it doesn't last forever
and a change in environment and setting where she can live how she wants without worrying about her mom will probably really help
so its hard to believe those situations won't improve
>have been trying for the last 2+ years to get my life together but every time i start a project i lose motivation within a week or two and enter suicidal depression
>have been going to bed at 1-3 am for the last week because i have commissions to do and i want to but i just can't work on them
just gotta try harder bro's!
>>8162916
emi your awake! I got the baking supplies but didn't manage any flowers yet, going to try planting some in the garden once I get some seeds, going to try baking some cookies later tonight, I'll send you pictures of them
how is the lowered cypro going??
>>8162943
Compared to tumblr, Susan's or reddit, /mtfg/ is a beacon of sanity and reason...
>>8162911
my bipolar got way, way better on HRT
>>8162931
im not really sure where'd id go anyway
>>8162921
I remember the transgender subreddits were pretty good ~4 years ago but now it's filled with so much hons it's literally susans 2.0
So yeah /lgbt/ is now pretty much the only place I discuss trans issues.
>>8162943
to be fair you earn some of the hostility you get
>>8162942
never again
>>8162951
oh cool :)
im worse than yesterday i think but better than the day before that, kinda in the middle
>>8162961
i still have your feet pics tho
i need more
>>8162922
usually it's 3-5 day phases of depression or mania now. sometimes I switch fast into hypomania if something exiciting happens like I meet up with people I like. so idk how much faster do the cycles get?
>>8162966
post em I wanna have a fap
>>8162977
sluges feet are mine and only mine.
>>8162909
whatever banana :p
so my sin is changing my name? lol
sorry for making you suffer in silence.
>>8162932
But I'm a crazy bitch u don't want in on this
>>8162986
omg cute
>>8162988
but my feminine benis feels good inside the vagoo
o, helloh
>>8162962
I got cinnamon and chocolate to put into them and plenty of supplies to bake quite a bit of things, gotta figure out how to make a glaze too, that would be nice
keep sticking with it, hopefully it will get back to where it was yesterday! :D
>>8162983
uh
i'm pretty sure that's proven false? i mean women have higher rates of histrionic and aggravated bipolar and whatnot
idk where you heard that
the babytrans i know are more than coincidentally some of the most miserable people i know
>>8162994
is that your cat?
>>8162943
>nope!
>it's filled with overly hostile anon shitposters and a good few self-hating /pol/trans
I mean, its not great, but compared to reddit/tumnlr/Susan place, I'd say MTFG is the best trans site on earth.
>>8162983
ptsd too?
god i wish i transitioned now im just spartan 2.0
>>8162992
S-stop making me think about this
>>8162985
You know, most people refer to forcing yourself upon someone as rape
>tfw had a mental breakdown and spend the past hour begging my boyfriend to admit I'm a man and leave me
I'm honestly such a bad girlfriend
>>8162983
>>8163000
it depends on the mental disorder tbqh
depressive episodes will get better after like 14-16 months of HRT, and bipolar has been shown (when combined with good bipolar meds) to help improve those symptoms
but ymmv regardless and things like borderline etc are made a lot worse on mones because they're more related to hormone fluctuations and can't be treated with mood stabilizers.
>>8163021
lowkey i wanted a dog but now i'm thinking maybe a kitter
>>8162988
I like crazy girls but you seem kinda normal
Sorry if I came off rude or as a dick. Hope I didn't hurt or offend anyone.
>>8163017
id like to force my benis inside there
>>8163011
Just find a gay boyfriend instead of transition.
>>8163005
that's not saying much
you're better off in private discords and whatnot
idk how long you've been here but we've had some really obnoxious manposters shit up the thread for months
I'm making macaroni
these cookies are gonna be fuckin amazing, i wish i had a better pan to cook them on
>>8163017
>changing your name is rape
um... it's pretty much the same thing as posting anon & avatarfagging or just identing yourself desu
whereas rape is... a lot more rapey
engage your internal ignore function mebbe
>>8163028
It was just the part of you that makes you seem like a huge bitch.
>>8163037
That was what some people refer to as a 'joke'
>>8163000
>higher rates of histrionic and aggravated bipolar almost all others personality disorders are predominantly found in men
>>8163045
nice excuse it's stupid tho
rape isn't a joke tbqh
>>8162900
>"just deal with it"
wow great advice now I don't have gender dysphoria or disabilities anymore who needs to transition anyway when you can JUST GET OVER IT :^)
>>8163022
you should work to become less crazy so you can be a great girlfriend
>>8163028
i mean, yeah, implying crippling mental illness doesn't exist because you don't have experience with it is pretty dick-y
do you want to argue gender dysphoria is a choice as well???
>>8163048
lmao
i didn't actually look it up i just remembered hearing borderline and histrionic were worse in women
my bad
>>8163046
>>8163006
mine did
>>8163051
who asked you?
pack your ass off to tumblr if you can't handle it this isn't a safe space
>>8163051
Dude it's 4chan, people have been making rape jokes here since its inception
>>8163037
it would actually be great if *you too* could get a name or a trip that could be filtered, instead of your avatar faggotry.
>>8163058
if you get a big dog they need a yard, but not a little one. and potty training them isn't too hard+ you can teach them to use a litter box or one of those in door grass patch things
>>8163065
you seem awfully offended for someone talking about safe spaces
maybe don't say stupid ass shit and whine for literally fucking hours about sass
>>8163060
Is less crazy even possible got a non-passing tranny.
>>8163063
>take hormones
>life becomes a sissy novel
I wonder why you waited until you were nearly 40 to transition!
>>8162986
HOLY SHIT THAT PILLOW
>>8163051
>>8163058
idk if i'm real bipolar bc my moods switch SUPER easily, like it's mostly cyclic but i can get confidence highs that only last a few hours
>have an argument and three people block me and feel amazing for the rest of the day but am depressed by night
probably have dependant as well
>>8163065
god I'm sorry i offended you
>>8163066
be a better girl
i can assure you the venn diagram of people who think rape jokes are funny and actual fuckin women has very little intersection
>>8163070
I'm a jaded old fuck and will sound off because I don't really care.
Get the fuck off my lawn you rotten teenager
>>8163078
jeez what even is left in life to talk about at that point
>>8163036
I'll do that if I ever end up in canada. still you don't have a lot of breakdowns and they have something reasonable behind them. you don't just start crying in the middle of a party and lay down on the floor for no reason. you probably don't even leave any bite marks on the boys you like.
>>8163084
> people who think rape jokes are funny and actual fuckin women has very little intersection
is this fucker trying to start some shit?
>>8163067
but i wanted a doge like pic related
>>8163077
right?? i wanna buy one lowkey lmao
>>8163079
i mean the thing is, HRT can help bipolar symptoms, but you have to be taking the right medication for bipolar. are you taking the right meds?
my best friend has bipolar disorder, and i've seen with her mania and lows that it's totally out of her control and can last hours or days or even a week +
>>8162869
so POTC, Faye and Angie are under age?
>>8163083
>be a better girl
lmfao good shit
jokes don't have to be funny btw
>>8163086
How great feminism and Marxism are, clearly.
>guest at the hotel complains that I didn't attend to him enough during an extremely busy day while I'm working alone
>boss threatens to out me at the next meeting if I don't do better despite me still within my first month of working there and that being my first complaint because she doesn't want to lose her 5 star rating
real talk can i take this to HR? that is extremely dangerous and life threatening information down here in the south
>>8163100
huh thats funny
the really old posters seem to be awful too
>>8163083
>be a better girl
>to be a girl you have to get offended by inane shit
That's pretty fucking asinine.
>>8163094
Wow holy shit 4chan is full of MEN
>>8163106
you don't like me? :(
>>8163105
You can definately do it, but what else besides your word against your boss's do you have? :/
>>8163064
did you have memory related problems because of ptsd too?
>>8163105
>>boss threatens to out me at the next meeting if I don't do better
thats p terrible
idk how you could continue working for someone like that
>>8163105
Yeah do it. Get yourself fired.
>>8163017
>using rape as leverage in an argument.
what ever happened to Canada cockfest 2017?
ahh ok.whatever banana. I still have good memories of you. hate me if you want
>>8163105
>texas
if your company is based in a decent state it's probably safe to do but...
>>8163101
saying stupid shit and then claiming it's a joke is pretty funny actually
>>8163094
i dunno do y'all want to whine for hours about your inability to just not pay attention to shit??
i really can't believe i had enough time to walk to the thrift store, find and buy a mixing bowl & measuring cups/spoons, then walk a mile to the grocery store and buy baking supplies, then sit on my ass for an hour while my roommate recorded a vocal/guitar track with friends, make and eat a bomb ass salad, prepare chocolate chip cookies.. and you girls are STILL whining about sass
>>8163108
actually making neckbeard jokes is the problem, not a lack of being offended
>>8163105
What the fuck is that? Get out ASAP.
Or just wait to be outed, record it and sue them. Easy FFS money.
>>8163105
I skimmed this and at first thought you said your boss threatened to fire you. which sure is bullshit but understandable from her perspective and a realistic scenario
But threatening to out you? I'll take things that didn't happen for 200, alex.
I see its "This totally happened" hour in mtfg.
Everyone tell your stories about stuff that totally actually happened.
>>8163116
i was on zoloft and now i'm on bupropion
>>8163116
how bad is it? I basicly forgot most things pre november 2013
>tfw crushing on your best friend
>he's not really into you
>still tells you you're cute/pretty but is honest with his criticism, and knows you don't pass
>he still thinks of you as a girl
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why
>>8163121
>saying stupid shit and then claiming it's a joke is pretty funny actually
No I don't really find you funny, actually.
>>8163126
I was raped as a child by many men and women so i now have ptsd and I'm physically disabled and have a very bad memory
also my parents used me as a prostitute to pay for the housing bills
then last week i was raped by my uncle at a family christmas party
i could go on but my memory is really bad
>>8163111
>>8163127
talk to your psych about getting on a mood stabilizer desu. that's the issue. zoloft and other antidepressants don't tend to help bipolar.
you can treat the depression that comes with the mood fluctuations with an antidepressant, but you need to treat the mood swings themselves as well.
if i could take meds for my bullshit, i would.
ur all gay
>>8163126
ur the gayest
>>8163043
I hope it's a small part.
>>8163062
I'm not going to have a competition of pity with you. If you really well and truly believe you're the only one that goes through a dysphoric and suicidal hell, take a good long look at others' lives and not your own for once. Every single person here including me has been and some of us still are struggling to find just one reason to keep going.
>>8163142
>...ok but what mood stabilizer are you on
>you should get off that shit RIGHT NOW if you don't have a mood stabilizer that's really dangerous
right lol
>>8163126
I was raped by my gay cousin
>>8163141
I'll be gay 4u baby
>>8163124
>be tranny
>don't have your name or gender marker changed
>general manager hires you and explains the situation to your department manager
>department manager is reluctant to hire you and interviews you 3 times before giving the okay
>constantly reminds you how she went out on a limb and stuck her neck out to hire you and keep your "secret"
>tells you that some guests have commented on how tall you are and your figure
yeah okay totally a nice person that would never say something like that in the deep south with zero lgbt work protections
>>8163126
My boss said he was gonna pull down my pants and show everyone at the next meeting my wang if I didnt do a better job! Its really troubling because I pass 100% perfectly and no one ever clocks me ever ever ever ever ever ever ever.
Or thats what I tell myself to make the voices go away.
>>8163076
>saves my pics
>modifies my pics
>quotes my greenposts
>claims to avoid my filters
I wonder why re so obsessed with me?
>>8163155
this is my fetish desu
>>8163149
rip lmao my bff kinda has that issue too but she managed some of her other bullshit with anxiety meds
i can't even take antidepressants because my depression is caused by my BPD fluctuations and you can't treat that
i love my horrible life
>>8163126
I fell in love with a guy once.
>>8163105
oh for real tho korra
if you're gonna go to HR you need to have solid proof
and keep in mind that might mean breaking other company policies, so be slick
hr's job is to protect the company not you. don't make any noise until you have strong evidence of impropriety
>tells you that some guests have commented on how tall you are and your figure
aka "hey I think the person waiting on us is actually a dude"
>>8163142
:(
I'm only good at remembering information but forget most emotional memories.
>>8163155
Hey, HEY, HEY!
Don't be dissin any methods to get rid of those voices. Fuckers tell us to kill ourselves, even if we're getting close to passing, if hiding behind false confidence gags those /b/ ass mother fuckers, that's end of story
>>8163140
i don't mind the hypomanic episodes because they actually help me a little bit, i dunno, is the point to keep me from getting hypomanic at all?
idk the psychs just started me on antideps
>>8163142
um
the doc never prescribed me any mood stabilizers
they just put me on antideps
i only have hypomanic though so at worst i'll just say really stupid things
>>8163143
>Every single person here including me has been and some of us still are struggling to find just one reason to keep going.
then stop going around saying "try harder hon!"
your attitude is one of complete ignorance
you may as well be a terf or /pol/slut going around telling people all trans are fetishists
i don't need your pity, i just need you to stop saying retarded shit and pretending you know what you're talking about
>>8163159
love is terrible dont fall for it the only thing that awaits for you at the end of love is heart break when you arent good enough for the other person
@8163151
really making me think right now
and so what's your boss' endgame? Tying to understand the logic of "Lemme just out this transgirl to be petty instead of just firing her"
>>8163156
"dicc only makes it better"
Why can't he just realize how shit I am and break up with me? I hate it, I'm not good enough he shouldn't have anything to do with me. He deserves better.
Why can't he find a girlfriend who's actually a girl?
>>8163142
When in fight or flight mode you don't remember anywhere near as well. Causes all sorts of problems like poor performance at school, and of other things too.
>>8163170
Too late, I'm dating a girl I love.
>>8163164
As someone who doesnt present full time but was hanging out with a girl who did a couple times, the amount of times I heard people say things like this as they walked by was staggering.
>>8163156
I just want to pretend you didn't show me your penis
I guess we all deal with trauma in different ways
also
>claims to avoid my filters
>claims to avoid my filters
>claims to avoid my filters
>claims to avoid my filters
literally what are you talking about
its like I'm trying to communicate with a monkey
>>8163170
I dunno
Its made me very happy
>>8163175
Because you're emotionally developed and not so shallow that you'd break up with him just because he didn't compliment your new sunglasses.
>>8163155
That could be sexual assault.
>>8163131
iktf
except for the
>he still thinks of you as a girl
he doesn't even think of me as a girl
>>8163126
at one point in primary school I was literally getting chased down and beaten up by the entire rest of the year group on an at-least-weekly basis. that's 59 kids chasing after me. one time about a dozen of them jumped on me and the left side of my body was paralysed for about five hours afterwards and my neck and shoulder were all swollen up. until I found out about dyspraxia at 15 I thought this was the source of my worsening physical problems (hypotonia can, and in my case does, get worse with age)
>>8163114
>>8163142
>tfw not sure anymore how much of my memory problems is dyspraxia and how much is cptsd
wew
>>8163177
best of luck i guess but itll end in sadness
>>8163168
yeah it is. the main difference between borderline and bipolar is that borderline is like...a polygraph constantly fluctuating 24/7.
bipolar is like high euphoric feels, either being minimal like hypomania or severe all out mania. and when that happens, you will always crash with the same severity.
like a boomerang. if you stabilized that you wouldn't have the depressive issues on the comedowns and you wouldn't need the antidepressants.
plus the antidepressants are going to react differently depending on what level your mood is at lol that's what makes it dangerous
>>8163177
I wish I could date the girl I love
>>8163193
There's a good chance of that, desu, but I'd regret it if I didn't try anyway.
is it normal to get really tired to where you can't really do anything for like 30% of the day
>>8163161
yeah i might have to bite the bullet on this one and just don't do anything. there's was a witness in the private meeting but there isn't anything that i can really do
thankfully i do have some wiggle room for one more fuck up. she was trying to make the argument that keeping the fact that I'm trans is causing problems so outing me would help. (somehow) fucking terrified me ngl bc i keep it on a need to know basis for obvious reasons
>>8163158
that suckssss my bestie has BPD but she also has bipolar so meds sort of half work but not all the way
>>8163165
fml sameee
>>8163168
that's incredibly irresponsible and stupid of them
that's probably what made your bipolar worse, did you start antidepressants around the same time as HRT?
>>8163176
rip
>>8163192
:(
>>8163194
You deserve a cookie.
Just thought I'd say it now, while it's not relevant, but you're a valued member of this community, even if people tell you otherwise.
>>8163202
i dont know but i love you
>>8163201
you have a lot more courage than i do i already given up on the thought of being happy with another person again
>>8163202
elf harm lmao
>>8163121
>making neckbeard jokes is the problem
Woh woh woh
Are you misgendering people?
In a safe space??
>>8163194
that's a good point desu
i'll talk to my psych when i see him next but idk
he's some super busy fucker who only comes to the big island once a week and he sees people for like....7 fucking minutes max
maybe i have both? i mean i get long periods where i'm predominantly depressed or hypomanic but i also fluctuate a bunch in between
>>8163205
no i started antidepressants when i overdosed on aspirin, which was like a month and a half ago
i told the psych i might have bipolar but he just tried to deal with my depression
i don't have a bipolar diagnosis
>>8163194
What are your thoughts on histrionic personality?
>>8163168
You're putting words in my mouth and making up ideas about me. Don't go down that road since you won't find the vindicative satisfaction you want since I'm not the monster you want me to be. I don't pity you, I think you can do good things with your life. I've been in the exact same spot you have and simply saying over and over I haven't doesn't make it true. I know what I'm talking about since I've been there for the blood and tears so if you want to just dismiss me as a liar that lead a perfectly happy life with no dysphoria, and it makes you happy to believe that, don't, since it doesn't destroy me, just yourself.
>>8163189
I'm not emotionally developed at all
>>8163214
elanna is a bully
>>8163202
are you on spiro
>>8163214
I don't really understand what attracts people to 4chan when they are easily offended and want to preach about the kind of language thats used
of all the websites to use why come here
>>8163207
ok why
be my gf?
>>8163222
no, decapeptyl
nice trips
>>8163223
no one will hang on to me forever though
a lotta bpd goin on in this thread rn
>>8163218
>get better hon
thanks, but when you're stuck with crippling depression that you make no progress with despite battling it for years, and your parents think medicine is a spook and refuse to help you get any help besides going to church
i think it's safe to say you're kind of fucked
i never said that you have no dysphoria, just that you clearly don't have experience with severe mental illness
i was likening badmouthing mental illness without having experienced it to badmouthing dysphoria without having experienced it
>>8163096
you def need a yard for a huskie I think
you could get a corgie though
>>8163230
thank you!
>>8163203
just record this person talking to you whenever you have a chance
they're gonna keep doing this and use your status to bully you, just be prepared for it
i'd recommend writing & signing a detailed statement now about what happened and getting some sort of trustworthy timestamp on it. it doesn't need to be notarized or anything but that wouldn't hurt. probably cool to just take a pic on your phone and upload to a cloud account with timestamps or physically mail it to yourself
>>8163214
>implying cis women don't experience hirsutism
ok dear
>>8163232
I know right? it's like people have been forgetting to remove all their body hair, do some exercise and drink some nice green tea before posting
>>8163202
a pear
>>8163205
i can't even imagine dealing with both of that at the same time. how does she even cope????????
>>8163206
3: oh gosh. well ty. that made me blushu irl.
>>8163215
it's totally possible that you could have both (altho obviously i wouldn't wish that on you)
you should really talk to your psych about it as soon as you can. cause if you can get diagnosed with bipolar and get treated for it, that could really help you.
i totally get the whole depressive episodes ruining your life thing and i know how awful it is so it'd be great if you could not feel like that :c
>>8163217
i don't really know much about it desu. the only reason i know a lot about borderline now is cause i have it and got diagnosed and had to do a ton of research.
and my best friend has bipolar so i know a lot about that kind of stuff cause of her treatments and researching things for her. i'm not a doctor tho ;_;
>>8163231
Why not?
>>8163232
my buddi
FRICK OFF
i love you
>>8163180
*claims to avoid me by using filters
sorry for my typo bby.
>>8163232
hi nimmer
>>8163243
idk yo she's pretty much amazing
>>8163245
i am a terrible partner i guess
>>8163242
i just got out of the shower and im sippin on some water
im p comf rn
>>8163252
Why would that be the case?
>>8163239
well on the day to day basis everything I'd usually gravy. but this one came out of left field and I wasn't expecting it ill just have to wait and see what happens i guess. oh well ill just chalk it up to a bad day at work and have to be extra sure I don't fuck up in anything at all ever
>>8163243
idk i consider myself histrionic but what do i know...ive gotten it pretty under control for the most part...
>>8163229
Idk but if they get offended tough shit imo
The beauty of this site is in how it allows free discussion, if someone can't handle it then they can fuck off to /r/transpassing or something.
>>8163247
wtf?
>:(
>>8163248
People are jealous of you for your figure, just so you know. You look good.
>>8163230
I just think you are really cute. Does this mean i can play with your benis?
>>8163248
oh sorry
so is this the name then?
because as I'm sure you remember you've now said more than once you're going to stop changing it, then changed it again
>>8163257
no matter what i did i couldnt make my last partner happy and then she broke up with me
>>8163259
do your job well and pay that person no heed but be prepared for their shitty management style... next time they fuck up & can blame it on you/threaten you they will, i can pretty much guarantee it. seems to me if you were working hard and customers complained about a lack of attention then that's a staffing and thus management issue
>>8163269
That could just be a problem on her end. Why was she unhappy?
How do I become a better girlfriend?
Not having a mental breakdown and lashing out at him for not hating me is probably a good start.
But I'm still not good enough.
>>8163267
we have to marriage first
>>8163277
idk but i think if you cant help your partner feel better in a time of need i think the problem is on your end not theirs
>>8163243
thanks, yeah
like i'm really trying to get commissions going again but it's really hard to focus on them
i'm gonna try to relax myself now and then blitz them tonight
i might have ADD too
ATDOTAT HAS HER own THREAD NOW?????? Rrrrrrrrrrr
>>8163281
save up, take him out for dinner
>>8163286
i find spelling out atdotat really funny for some reason idk why
>>8163284
Sometimes people are inconsolable. What was the context?
>>8163276
yeah it was a really busy morning and the entire cafe was filled and I was the only waitress working so i had to bounce between everyone
but whatever despite that one (1) complaint i usually get complaints on my service and how speedy I attend to guests
today was a wake up call that reminded me where I work and the fact that lgbt protection doesnt exist here so going forward im just gonna keep quiet and to myself at all times and find busy work to keep occupied
>>8163294
im afraid im not going to bring that up here
>got two interviews about a potential internship this week
OH GOD WHAT IF I GET CLOCKED AND NOBODY WANTS TO TAKE ME ON AAAAAAAHHHHHHH
>>8163286
what is this meme
>>8163283
Well ok, ill be your pure waifu desu
tfw u got ignored
>>8163281
he loves you, you're a good girlfriend
>>8163293
u should do it.
move to a farm
>>8163307
>>8163307
iktf
>>8163313
>rude
Honest truth, sailors honor.
>>8163315
thank you narcissa image poster
>>8163299
How often do you get gendered male normally?
>>8163321
i cant bring myself to agree with that
>>8163300
AtdotAt is an oldposter who met William S. Burroughs and was with Andy Warhol when Valerie Solanas shot him.
>>8163293
B O R Z O I
>>8163331
wtf those are so cute
>>8163299
you can do dw marcy and if u get clocked just ignore it and keep going forward
>>8163320
oh anon, you're growing on me.
>>8163329
oh lol. I know her I just didn't understand the writing for some reason.
>>8163328
Nobody's perfect, so don't hold yourself to impossible standards.
>>8163343
id rather just live alone until i get the courage to kill myself in my late 20s
maybe early 30s if i make it that far
>>8163327
Uh, well... I work at a coffee shop so I interact with a lot of customers. I've been working 5 days a week the past couple weeks, and I think the last time someone called me a guy to my face was maybe a week ago? I'm not really sure if he was referring to me though. The last time I definitely got gendered male was probably 2-3 weeks ago. I think I got clocked on Friday though.
>>8163333
so graceful
>>8163331
B R I A R D
>>8163361
it isnt and im also closing this thread because i dont want you constantly saying something to me that isnt true
>>8163361
>>8163334
I am hoping with all of my little heart
even if I do get clocked there is a chance they won't really care because all kinds of weirdoes are in the professional music biz and even if I don't super pass I'm at least kind of cute
>>8163340
mmm litigation
was anyone else a bit scared to go to the men's bathroom before going full-time? i don't know if I'm imagining shit or if I now look faggy/girly enough that people stare at me every single time.
it's unnerving as hell
>>8163372
happens constantly to me, but the only times I've been stopped by someone, I just told them that I'm not going to wait in a line like an idiot.
>>8163372
definitely feeling the same thing right now
absolutely felt like guys were staring at me when I was waiting in line for the men's room at a basketball game this weekend
>captcha: toilets
>>8163372
it is rather unnerving
>>8163371
yep exactly. ive been full time for a while now and I get clocked on occasion and it doesn't really bother me outside of like an aww dang it feel for just a second and then i keep doing whatever it is I was doing before and that's just the times I've noticed myself being clocked who knows how many i haven't ya know? just keep in keeping on
>>8163372
i was more afraid of the women's desu tool forever to get comfortable using that one. but I did get stares at lots tally every time I went in the men's and asked if they were in the right bathroom or in some extreme cases the guy running out completely
>>8163381
are you full time?
>>8163382
Most of the time when I get clocked it completely shatters my self-confidence and I feel awful for a while, shit sux but I think I'm getting better about it
also your situation sounds really awful :c
>>8163372
yeah presently am
even not wearing nail polish or anything on 3 months hrt dudes will just stare at me
i'm kinda faggy and have shaved all my body hair so that's prob all it takes
black science man says being nonbinary is legit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOqLE2JTXwI
>>8163372
Kind of, but mostly it just stinks and it's gross. I use gender neutral/family bathrooms when possible because they seem to be cleaner. I still look like a dude :(
>>8163391
ya i felt pretty awful about today too i haven't felt bad in a while too so it especially sucks but what can ya do such is life in this conservative shithole it's nothing new to me we're gonna make it
>>8163400
i havent been sir'd in forever but there's this really obvious staring and you might overhear quiet talk like "i think that's a guy, or she looks kinda funny don't you think?"
>>8163400
honestly when people call me sir I generally figure they don't even realize I'm trying to present female. But the last time I thought someone clocked me was because I glanced at their phone and it looked like they took a video of me and compared me to Caitlyn Jenner. Usually it's not that obvious though.
>>8163374
thank you <3
Does anyone have advice for stubborn facial hair? no matter what I do I can't seem to get rid of it all, and people keep telling me not to epilate it. Laser is really expensive here,
>>8163409
I love your attitude. c:
Is there a reason to get SRS and go full time if I know it will only make me more dysphoric and depressed
>>8163415
Sorry, but if you have dark hair+light skin, there is nothing better than laser.
>>8163415
electrolysis
>>8163386
not even close lol
>>8163409
>you might overhear quiet talk like "i think that's a guy, or she looks kinda funny don't you think?"
wow people really do that? thats seriously terrible even if I wasn't a tranny i think I'd still feel bad talking like that
emotionally idk if I could handle overhearing that, idk if I'd ever want to present female again
>>8163411
>it looked like they took a video of me and compared me to Caitlyn Jenner
thats weird af
>>8163419
i have light hair and light skin. should i off myself?
OH GOD HOW THE FUCK DO I DRESS FOR A JOB INTERVIEW AS A GIRL
I AM SO UNPREPARED
>>8163418
Why would it make you more dysphoric to get SRS and go full time?
>>8163286
Doesn't it just burn.
>>8163428
Yeah, idgi. At the time I instantly assumed she was making fun of me on social media but looking back she didn't actually say anything negative? And she didn't deadname Caitlyn??? And I actually had a brief conversation with her and she was being nice???
what did you make today mtfg
>>8163431
No just get electro
>>8163440
dang those look like some good cookies
>>8163433
https://www.thebalance.com/interview-outfits-for-women-2061091
you gotta dress like a boy basically
>>8163422
I agree but do you actually have an issue with nb I thought you were kinda smart at least
>>8163440
Enemies
>>8163440
Tears
also curry
>>8163445
tfw nonbinary
tfw don't bother telling anyone because everyone hates nb people
>>8163428
you have to be emotionally and me tally strong to be a tranny fulltime over time you develop thick skin and start to pass better and better so you get better with dealing with that when it happens and it happens in less frequent intervals
>>8163433
it wore this to my first girl interview and got the job
>>8163440
I made myself hurt
>>8163434
maybe b/c they dont pass
>>8163440
I made a few friends feel better.
>>8163445
Ehhhhhh. I understand not feeling like a male or female, but I don't understand why they don't just say they're male or female for simplicity's sake, if they lack dysphoria.
>>8163449
Alright, see above, how come you don't just identify as whatever your birth sex is?
>>8163404
i was watching the new bill nye thing on gender (ep.9) and it was p okay until a music guest came on singing out power bottoming lmao. like jfc we're trying to normalize ourselves you autistic directors
>>8163450
and one more pic. interview went fine and they didn't know I was a tranny at first
>>8163449
:( kinda yeah
>>8163444
>https://www.thebalance.com/interview-outfits-for-women-2061091
shoutouts to google
>>8163409
>but what can ya do such is life in this conservative shithole
make the dual purpose fund, emergency move to a better place if needed or SRS...
>>8163455
don't lack dysphoria tho
>>8163470
So, what are you dysphoric about? And why not just be trans?
>>8163455
not person you are asking but I do have dysphoria
why tf would I transition and have 99% of the world fucking hate me if I didn't feel dsyphoria????
>>8163446
based...
feeling like a failure today so I slept 17 hours.
>>8163434
My beautiful lie is now full circle. I would be constantly saturated by it, drowning in it. I respond to a fake name with a fake voice and have empty sex with genitals that aren't real. I would feel like a camlouflaged preys amongst predators, just a single whisper away from my falsehood being revealed. I'd be a frankenstein of surgeries and lies in an empty shell painted all pretty.
>>8163468
eh the next surgery I'm getting is orchi and then ffs. having a dick doesn't affect daily life at all and having a more passing face would help tons
i am seriously considering moving if i can convince my bf to come with but first I want to claw myself out of poverty and start building a financially stable future
>>8163446
I wrote out a big autistic blog about that exchange but im not going to post it because I don't think it would do any good and people would just get mad again
>>8163478
17 hours same but it was cos of partying
>>8163455
>how come you don't just identify as whatever your birth sex is?
i was really grossed out with my body hair and I hated looking manly
I always wanted to appear more feminine and it took me a while to realize the reason why people's perception of me felt off was because they perceived me as a dude
so then I finally started hrt years of thinking about it (increased facial hair really was what set me over the edge) and its been great, but I don't feel like I'm really female either even though I want to look as much like a girl as possible
so idk I just don't really feel comfortable calling myself anything so i figure it defaults to nonbinary
>>8163472
really discordant stuff. dysphoric only about male features tho (v much abt genitalia) - just some features (voice for 1) don't actually bother me either way. am trans and am transitioning completely, i just low-key feel nb in secret. but won't ever tell anyone bc what would that help.
>>8163482
I'm dysphoric about my body and being seen as male. I do try to just live as as trans because its fucking hard enough being binary trans and most people hate you I don't want to make it even worse by asking people to call me they.
>>8163485
good luck!!!
>>8163500
I would be really surprised if that happens. Even when I was starting HRT at 14 I resigned myself to the fate that I'm be at best a cheap imitation. I've never seen myself as a woman, just a dude pretending to be one. But who knows I might think differently 7 years from now.
>tfw doctor appointment and physical next month
yaaayy can't wait to tell a new doctor I've never met before that I'm taking prescription drugs not sold in the united states in an effort to change my genderrrr
>>8163500
i'm passable, but i still feel fake
>>8163520
It's probably just how others make you feel. But idk I feel that too.
>>8163520
part time girlmode for almost 2yrs
>>8163527
well theres your issue
My shoulders are 18 inches and my hips are 16 inches. I'm about 5'11"-6'. Do I have a chance?
>>8163497
That genuinely just sounds like you're a rational MtF. Not everyone just knew in their heart of hearts that they were a girl since the first trimester while they were in their mom. There are people that just felt wrong with their birth sex and wanted to be the other.
>>8163502
I see. So, what do you feel makes you nonbinary?
>>8163507
That's understandable. How come you want to be called they and not she?
>>8163513
I felt the same, even about SRS, but basically what Elanna said. Hell, I even have a concrete plan to get SRS within the next few years.
Does anyone else take it really personally when you can't be friends with someone. Like, some people still kind of ignore me where I work and I've been there for a year. I guess neither of us make an effort but for some reason I feel like it's based on them not liking me on their end. I'm just nervous and paranoid.
>>8163529
what's in ur mind qt?
i posted this in /passgen/
gender my body
>>8163540
from that data yes u garbage lass
>>8163545
very girl
>>8163527
Part time is the rub
So long as you live any portion of your life as a guy you're not going to able to break free from the mindset of being a guy or fake.
Idk how you could, you're essentially putting on and taking off being female like an outfit, not immersing yourself and allowing it to become your life.
>>8163529
how would some chocolate chip cookies and hemp milk make you feel?
>>8163542
i naturally default to not being friends with people iono
>>8163545
you look like a cutie duh
>>8163545
Weber/10.
>>8163522
You're the only poster here I unconditionally trust so I guess we'll see in a decade if I'm still alive.
Does fapping daily fuck up your levels and slow down transition?
>>8163545
girl
and cute
>>8163558
I'm not going to pretend it happens overnight or that it comes easy. Everything requires patience and effort in this game.
But I got there, plenty of girls do, they just don't tend to hang out here once they get to that point.
>>8163546
I asked if stand a chance. Not if I pass.
Were that the question, I could post the related picture.
hmmm
my shoulder feels like bone but people say there's more muscle there than you think usually
i think my body would look a lil more symmetrical if they slimmed a bit, but i dont know if that's a possibility for me or not
i heard bica atrophies muscle faster, maybe that'll help
>>8163520
same
>>8163570
and plenty try just as hard and don't
>>8163568
>>8163582
omg lol
a grill
I see what you did.
>>8163541
I just feel more comfortable with they. idk like ~~internally~~ I don't think I feel like a man and I rly don't want to be seen as a man but I don't think I feel like a woman either. so I guess I would say im like nb but feminine leaning. I know ur going to say that I'm probably just normal mtf with confusion or internalized transphobia but idk I don't think so.
>>8163550
also it kills me to be known as a tranny
i'll just keep going until i come up w some conclusion for myself
>>8163545
seated makes your hips look wider+plus the general angle so yeah
that being said in the body picture of you ive seen you had a pretty feminine body, so
>>8163566
I did for a while on cypro until my sex drive started to die and I basically just would forget to do it and now my dick is half broken
so no I don't think masturbating messes with AAs enough to do anything at all
>>8163572
i thought this picture was interesting too
my shoulders look more like the one on the left rather than the right
i know it's like an old guys shoulders atrophying cuz of age but that's like lack of T anyway right?
>>8163590
It might be time to retire your guymode and move
>>8163572
you need to stop worrying so much and just give things time you are fucking freaking out every day
>>8163559
aww I'm rooting for you ambi gonna be so happy to hear that you passed and are graduating!
>>8163541
feel very sexless cognitively and socially, like i'm uninterested in gender performance outside of sex and group-belonging and like past that it's just a behaviour-category such as a spoken language.
to me saying i'm a woman has about the same emotional weight as saying 'i'm an english speaker'.
>>8163593
Doesn't it make your gt not break if you do it regularly?
>>8163545
Girl
And Hella Cute
>>8163545
can you pull your shoulders any further back, lol
>>8163461
Chicken tikka masala. It's decent but nothing special.
Chicken breast, white onion, garlic, ginger, diced tomatoes, plain non greek yogurt, lemon juice, assorted spices and brown rice
>>8163550
>you're essentially putting on and taking off being female like an outfit, not immersing yourself and allowing it to become your life.
This is how I feel when I guymode and it hurts so much :/
>>8163601
im not freaking out!
im just pondering whether or not my shoulder is all bone or not
they are p boney
:b
>>8163602
Thanks ^^
>>8163604
thats what I've read on here
but idk I was just so not horny and the process took too long and wasn't enjoyable and it didn't really even get fully hard that I kinda just stopped caring
>>8163605
Thanks. I don't recognize your trip.
>>8163587
.........BEEP
>>8163591
Sitting really does make the ass and hips look cis. I'm gonna permanently sit. Maybe I should break my legs? That would make me pass better if I lived in a wheelchair.
>>8163606
>can you pull your shoulders any further back
Yes actually. Way way more. I don't remember doing that for this pic. I may have a bit though. But if you think that's as far as I can pull them back you might be a massive, unflexible, physically unfit blob.
>>8163627
in my case I have rough worker hands and my gt is really really sensitive so i would physically hurt myself when fapping and the urge just wasn't there
And I'm off for the night
Sorry for being a cranky old fuck all day
>>8163639
nah you're fine
>>8163570
If I don't have expectations and put in no effort I will never be disappointed.
>>8163589
Nah, I'm not gonna say you're confused or that you have internalized transphobia or any of that bullshit. I do think you're just an MtF, but you do you, I suppose.
>>8163603
I get that. Personally I try to act like myself, not like a girl or a guy, just me. I feel like I belong in the female category but I'm not even sure what properly defines it aside from feeling. Except my internal category doesn't go by *just* feelings as I'd put you and a few other anons in that category I label "female" as well. Whenever I think about this hard I find it difficult to find meaningful answers, but at the same time I'm certain there's a definition I'd be happy with for "female".
>>8163639
Nighty night Lanlan, no need to worry, you've been okay.
>>8163638
yeah :(
it really just feels like a chore at some point
>>8163637
if you break my legs ill break yours
>>8163652
if you cut off your legs, you can get prosthetic legs whatever length you want
choose your own height!
impressive
faceapp was ALMOST strong enough to defeat my repression beard
>>8163589
>nb but feminine leaning
is a perfectly valid way to feel.
>>8163654
ooooooo tempting
>>8163478
:( what's wrong bby?
>>8163662
nonbinaries are fine but i wish they wouldn't latch onto the transgender label and turn it into identity politics
it's not supposed to be a fucking identity
it's a thing you use and then lose as soon as you pass
>>8163637
New to this board which is probably why
>>8163672
This. Being trans is, well, transitional, not a label you want to keep sticking to your soles like a bit of old chewing gum.
>>8163672
they are still on the transgender spectrum.
New thread is up:
>>8163679
>>8163649
sorry for dragging this on but when I say I don't feel like I am normal mtf and you say yeah I think you are isn't that you saying you think I'm just confused? sorry im not trying to be rude but that kind of made me feel bad.
>>8163682
Nah, get it. The back brace I used to wear helped both my posture and figure a lot.
>>8163672
fuck you shut up you are the worst worst worst first you come here and you are unironically the literal sjw boogeyman reddit is afraid of and now you come back and you are the rational anti sjw fedora just shut up shut up shut up
>>8163687
"Confused" is way too condescending a label for how I feel about it. I'm sorry anon, I didn't mean to make you feel bad. I think it's subjective, and of course I think *my* subjective view is the "correct" one. But ultimately, it's subjective.
>>8163699
sorry
>>8163701
For?
>>8163705
idk im just sorry for being sensitive I guess
>>8163707
No need to be apologetic about that, Anon.
>he's not replying
To by expected, I guess.
I'm an idiot.
>>8163736
new thread
>>8163748
I'm just going to sleep
>>8163754
just give him a bit of time.
last pic