/mtfg/ Transgirl General

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Good morning

>>7995402
Sounds like a nice idea c:

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>>7995408
Have fun uwu

I like turtles

>>7994746
wasn't she like really emotionally abusive and holding you back from transition?

>>7994762
she's a pain in the ass but I'm pretty sure edie's middle-eastern, not any form of black

>>7994808
808S AND HEARTBREAKS

>>7995093
carol pls don't use "y'all" unironically, we're british

>>7995395
what if you already have c-ptsd? :^)

>>7995408
PATRICIAN ANNA
please tell me it's the director's cut and not the shitty 90-minute theatrical cut?
also don't forget to watch its companion piece, The Look Of Silence

>>7995488
>I'm pretty sure edie's middle-eastern
Persian/Mexican mix if I remember correctly.

Please fucking stop early threads

https://twitter.com/hashtag/TransGirlTwitter?src=hash

>tfw every single one of these transgirls is uniformly more passing and beautiful than me
KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS

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Thinking about buying these for summery stuff

>>7995508
Tranny shoe

>>7995513
>tfw i have those

>>7995513
Oh, really?
Shame :c

>>7995526
>tfw I had those back in the '70s, but with white tops

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>>7995526
I would be surprised if many here didn't

>>7995527
Yeah
It's ok I have all star high tops because tran

>tfw vans
im such a hon

>>7995513
are mary janes are tranny shoes?

t cis guy

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Morning everyone!

How are we all doing on this lovely Monday?

>>7995548
No, converse are the only tranny shoe

On that note, heels are the opposite of a tranny shoe because most trannies lack the confidence to wear them.

>>7995558
awful, fuck you

>>7995558
there was quite the storm here last night

>>7995488
>carol pls don't use "y'all" unironically, we're british
Yeah, we say "youse" instead. Maybe she's just trying to fit in better with the southern tranny clique though.

>>7995562
What happened?

>>7995558
It gets hot and idk what do to know cause I start sweating with my long hair quite easily

>>7995559
>On that note, heels are the opposite of a tranny shoe because most trannies lack the confidence to wear them.
LOL nope.
PS, if you want to learn how to wear heals, wear then while vacuuming and dusting.

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>>7995560
that's not very nice anon :<
(hugg)

>>7995562
ooooh, was it pretty?
or was it the kind of storm that was way too harsh and made today a pain

>>7995566
Get a slightly shorter cut maybe?
(post hair)

>>7995572
Idk it's not that they're hard to wear but every time they get brought up here it's like "omggg I'm so tall thoughhh"

>>7995579
>I'm supposed to house sit their million dollar home with a pool for 11 days for them
I don't see how that's a bad thing?

>>7995504
Jesus Christ this is terrifying because it gives me the answer I know already but don't want to believe.

It doesn't get better.

There is no hope.

I have reevaluate my life around the core principles of a failed transition.

Fuck my life.

>>7995562
>>7995564
Please tell me. Drama is the only reason I even come to mtfg.

>>7995579
Why not invite women over and have fun and pretend to be a billion heir? You could probably even cuddle and watch anime.

>>7995577
it takes some practice, and i have good balance

>tfw manlet
>yes, i'm finally going to get some height
>see most cis are barely over 5 ft trying to do same
feels weird famlam

>>7995579
pull a kayla and live it up like you own it

>>7995590
They meant a storm
Like outside
With clouds
You go outside right?

>>7995546
I have vans too it's okay anon

>>7995577
You'd be surprised at how many tall trannies I see in heals at inappropriate times.

>>7995593
Oh, I'm dumb. I thought they meant like a "storm" in the thread.
>You go outside right?
Uhh...

>>7995594
=) yay!

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>>7995579
(hugg)
pls no

>>7995483
Of coursh
I guess I will do that later, thanks for the hint

>>7995466
thanks qt

>>7995598
no, it was some solid mtfg drama and anon posting was in no short supply

>>7995611
is that you when you were a little girl?

>>7995575
It's only shoulder length

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succ

>>7995597
There's inappropriate times to wear heals?

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>>7995616
Nah, just some random girl with an armful of bunnies.

>>7995619
Ah.
Gosh, how hot is it where you live?

>>7995623
yes, in apartment buildings with hardwood floors. WHY, NEIGHBORS, WHY?

>>7995559
I don't support trannies wearing heels because they do terrible things to your feet, and it's hard enough trying to find MTFs with cute feet as it is.

>>7995627
Only 15 C
But it's really hot in the sun
I always had problems with overheating, even with short hair.

>>7995634
I think they suffer from GID tbqh

>>7995587
ikr
time to get fucked up on ket

>>7995579
this >>7995591
throw a massive party and pretend it's your house
then clean up after and when your sister gets home she'll be none the wiser
it'll be like something out of a sitcom

>>7995634
i'm very certain that I have at least 1 mental disorder so it's ok
by september i'll be the kind of person you described so maybe i can start collecting mental disorders

>>7995634
yes...
no...
maybe?
idk
can you repeat the question?

>>7995634
Question seems self reflective in nature. Any answer given is meaningless.

>>7995634
There's probably a very strong correlation. Tripfags who use the same trip for longer than a year are relatively rare outside of /mtfg/ and some other generals though.

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>>7995631
Who in the fuck wears shoes in their house??

>>7995632
Fuck off chaser

>>7995634
no more than the anons who have been here for years

>>7995634
>Maybe addiction prone?
Well...

>>7995661
>no more than the anons who have been here for years
i doubt it, considering that tripfags only go against the grain and trip because they're all histrionics who need constant attention and validation just to survive

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>>7995668
>But anons dont have a fully functional archive that anybody can use directing your posts to an identity.
sometimes they do, if they use the same images over and over again

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50mg Bical + 2mg Estrofem daily for transitioning, Y/N?

>>7995684
yes, but only if you post pictures of your massive testicles

>>7995687
that's a fair rebuttal

still watching you, anon

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>>7995636
Dye it a lighter colour maybe? If you're overheating it sounds like it's a dark colour, maybe going blonde or something will help.

>>7995684
If you go with bica you're still going to be able to get erections.
That's good or bad depending on what you want.

>>7995659
why so mean to chasers?
high heels are painful to wear

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>>7995695
yeah that's why I picked Bica, are those dosages okay though?

I think I'm done with this place.
Nothing changes around here and I'm too old for this place.
I'll come back here and there to check up on you girls.

Take care, love ya <3

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>>7995695
I think I'm simply fucked somehow

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>>7995642
You're further down the DNM rabbit hole than I care to explore. I hope you'll stumble out someday and clear your head. It's a slippery slope that stuff...

On the topic of addiction:

>>7995634
Dont think there is much inference to be drawn from this, but it seems like a pretty accurate (albeit broad) picture of the standard tripgirl here, yeah. Transsexuals who went to 4chan over Tumblr. We're strange people.

>>7995654
You're capable of placing a proper comma. Don't sell yourself short. I was self depreciating here for my first 4 months through HRT but eventually you'll need to take stock of your strengths.
. That said, you're not going to find it easy to find people to treat you as a girl - but you can assert somehow especially online as a transgender woman and find someone to hang with as an equal who understands it (presumably). You're not alone and a lot of guys are into it or unaffected by it. Girls wear the label of pansexual pretty often, but I never find it true. Guys shy away from any such labels but I believe the archetype is more common amongst men.

What country are you in?


>>7995703
Bye.

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>>7995691
I-is that actually something that happens?

>>7995695
It's cruel to keep a rabbit in such a small cage.

>>7995699
>>why so mean to chasers?
Chasers have always been a persecuted minority in /mtfg/. Don't worry, I'm used to all the mean things they say to us.

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>>7995702
Don't know about bica dosages as I'm on cypro, but E seems fine.
Although...
>Taking the word of a stranger on a Sudanese teddy cuddling forum.
Consult a doctor if possible.

>>7995705
Looks cute Fran, maybe brush it a little? Other than that it's fine.

>>7995709
Looks like a house bunny, the cage is probably just it's bed and toilet.

>>7995721
People just think chasers are all creepy because they only ever see the creepy ones. It's like when you go on porn sites and check the comments, there's always like 1 or 2 middle-aged dudes saying really creepy shit that just kills your boner.

>>7995723
I already brushed it, it's super weird since my hairdresser straightened it to death >:(

>>7995708
no idea. someone in femgen said that, but maybe they just meant that it doesn't shrink the testes.

>>7995748
liking peen is not str8

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>tfw starting new job in 7 hours
how do i calm my nerves about being around new people in a strange environment and not knowing where stuff is or what i'm doing?

>>7995760
just tell them it's your first day

>>7995760
You'll post to 4chan after and take a picture before you leave for work so no matter what you can tell the story of how it went and what you looked like in the future.

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>>7995715
>cis man has a persecution complex

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>>7995740
o noes :(

>>7995760
By remembering that you're a lovely person and everyone's going to like you and it's really not gonna be that bad.
Good luck, I believe in you!

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>>7995770
For someone who's just come back on the market, you sure are being prickly to potential suitors.

>>7995778
she's flirted on and off line with chasers in the past though

question is, are all chasers bad people? or are they similar to regular cis guys, where you'll find plenty of bad too.

hello?

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>have to write a motivation letter to apply for uni
???

b-but this isn't a job
why

>>7995792
>question is, are all chasers bad people? or are they similar to regular cis guys, where you'll find plenty of bad too.
As a transgender girl, my experience with them has been sans exception positive. Although I guess you could find one or two bad chasers out there, the overwhelming majority of chasers are good, kind-hearted people who make excellent boyfriends and/or sexual partners.

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>>7995778
>4chan
>Potential suitors
C'mon what kinda loser do you take me for

>>7995796
>going to uni

>>7995806
i wanna try my luck and i literally don't know what else to study but the thing i'm planning to

sorry to disappoint you, anon

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Who /Australia/ here?

>>7995810
what are you studying?

it will be a waste of time and money. if you're like most mtfs you won't even get friends out of it either.

>>7995772
people actually give bunnies as easter presents?

>>7995805
this >>7995801
is fake right?

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>>7995805
>C'mon what kinda loser do you take me for
My kind of loser.

Lately I've noticed my mouth seems to be changing a little, is that normal?
Like I can't open it as far without the sides really hurting, and at the edge of my mouth it's gotten chapped and gross.

>>7995825
pretending to be a chaser who is pretending to be a trans girl is literally a meme

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>>7995821
Psychology.
And abroad, too. Since I would be at a disadvantage if I studied it here because of the difference in how the school systems work.

Mhm. Still hoping to get *some* friends out of it.
Plus, it'll be at Anna's school, so I'll see her a lot, which is a huge plus.

>>7995828
herpes?

>>7995831
I dunno, I've had a very similar experience to that other poster who is a different individual to myself.

>>7995794
how is your girlfriend?
you keep saying you are gay so when are you starting hrt?

>>7995833
never even kissed someone, and I don't think the skin is broken in a way typical of herpes.

I shaved my entire body on a whim a couple days ago so I could properly epilate and I'm suffering from a mix of itchy cactus body and the fact that epilating is painful. What are some easy ways to kill myself.

>>7995832
>Since I would be at a disadvantage if I studied it here because of the difference in how the school systems work.
how so?

>>7995840
>What are some easy ways to kill myself.
designing an elaborate rube goldberg machine that ends with a marble dropping into a cup that yanks a piece of string, pulling the trigger of a gun held to your head.

>>7995840
20 apple cores blended

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>>7995841
Here in Belgium, you have a super duper wide array of studies in high school.
And so if I studied psychology here, I would certainly have a lot of classmates who have already studied very similar stuff and who already know way more about the subject than I do.
The teachers would probably go a lot faster because of that, too.
My therapist said something similar happened when he tried to study something law-related.

In the Netherlands, it's impossible for my potential classmates to have serious school-taught knowledge on the subject.
So the teachers would just just start from 0, which is really reassuring.

hope that was written well enough to be understandable

>>7995684
dark net has been compromised for as long as I've known it's a thing, I get all my shit IRL

>>7995726
noice

>>7995684
taking estrogen with bica will cancel out the bica's fertility-and-dick-function-preserving ability

a fraction of the T built up in your bloodstream taking bica alone should apparently convert to estrogen after a while and lend (much slower than usual) feminising effects to skin, fat redistribution etc. anyway

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>>7995823
Apparently so and it's not good.

>>7995840
(fellow cactus hugg)

>>7995856
Hey Robin!
hows things

>>7995858
same as usual pretty much except now I'm on crutches so people can actually tell what a cripple I am
who dis

>>7995860
oops
why does taking a trip off for one thread affect a different thread it's so inconvenient >_>

(hugg)
sorry to hear that :/
would more bun posting help or nah

>>7995828
Chapstick helps, use vaseline or some kind of lip healing ointment at night if it's really problematic.

>>7995863
it's w/e
I have mah druggus at least :)

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>>7995867
>gets benefits from the government
>complains about being poor
>turns out the money is being spent on drugs

>>7995840
wait until you get an ingrown hair that turns into a painful puss filled sore

>>7995874
oh no, someone with nasty neurological issues uses drugs to ease the pain and cope with her daily life

oh no

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>make morning coffee, read the news
>remember that people are literally dying all over the world and that getting bothered by the internet is the most first world stupid bullshit ever

i forget sometimes that this stuff doesn't matter at all. i wonder if i should just keep my distance from mtfg while doing estrogen shots in general lol

>>7995874
>inb4 drug apologist says how shitty life is without then
Addicts

>>7995878
Lawl. Ok I should've refreshed the page.

>>7995883

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>>7995876
nothing is real but pain now

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>>7995878
>it's okay to complain about being poor when you're on benefits if you're spending all your money on drugs, because life is hard without drugs

>>7995879
>MOM WHAT WOULD I DO WITHOUT YOU?
transition much earlier ;_;

elanna snuggle

why is this world so insane?

>>7995886
>>7995891
I don't agree with Robin doing drugs, particularly not the harder stuff like ketamine, but none of us know how bad things are for her or what she goes through on a day to day basis.

don't be so judgemental

>>7995840
Just wait until the epilator only plucks half the hairs and just breaks the other half, so it hurts and you're going to have to do it again in a week

>>7995891
Now that's a meme I haven't seen in a long time.

>>7995905
the world isn't that crazy
the ppl who inhabit it are

>>7995899
i wouldn't snuggle elanna, you don't know where she's been

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>>7995914
i just want a bf to takr cute pics with and we can escape this cruel world and create our own social worldm

>>7995920
that's basically what I've done desu
it is a good alternative

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uwu

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How is Edgar still posting here

>>7995961
shut up already nobody actually gives a shit
christ you people

I wish there was a way to filter all pepe memes

>>7995963
Fuck off spastic cunt

>>7995972
I'm autistic actually bbcaeks <3

>>7995968
hey franzi, what did you learn in school today?

>>7995975
No shit

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help someone I don't know irl is threatening to kill themselves and since I don't know them personally there's absolutely nothing I can do

what the heck do I do

Does anyone here know of good makeup tutorial vids that /don't/ make it look super easy? I feel like such a retard because I watch a video and it looks effortless, then I try it myself and constantly mess up.

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>>7995968
Hey can I sit next to you in class

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>when a combination of drugs and lewd stuff made me accept a part of myself which was causing me great sadness before, yet people still say drugs are bad for you

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>>7995981
I learned that it's not worth to get up on Monday.
>>7995993
Is this enough space for you?

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hi im here now

how is everyone

>>7996006
franzi pls don't be lonely, we will find you some friends one day, just hang in there

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>>7996006
I'll just eat pizza in the car and you tell me the answers

Who wants free hrt?

>>7995991
Telling people that it's going to get better is stupid

>>7995999
Did you spend welfare money on those drugs? Because yeah, drugs are pretty great for having those kinds of existential realizations, but if you're poor they're just going to become an addiction that holds you in poverty.

>>7995874
I spend less on drugs in 3 months than I spend on food for one week, drugs aren't expensive unless you're an addict and/or have a tolerance

literally do ket 2-3 times a year and 1g of weed per month, it's about £30 for a 2g wrap of ket and £10 for 1g of weed, I'm hardly breaking the bank, sometimes I do codeine but it's £2.20 for 32 8mg tablets ffs

>>7996014
There's a guy to my left
>>7996015
Too fat sorry

>>7996023
no I did not
I'm a semi-poor 18 year old almost uni student
This was just my pocket money basically.

Thanks for the info/tip, though.

>>7996022
It is though, if she gets through the next year things are going to get much better for her so she just needs to hold on.

And even if it wasn't true, the heck am I meant to say?
>You're right, your life sucks at it always will, have fun in whatever afterlife there is.

>>7996015
Thought that was joey from the thumbnail

>>7996017
this reminds me
>always have extra E at the end of the month because I'm really bad about taking them all 3 times a day
>pour the excess into an old prescription bottle when I get mine refilled
>now have a bottle of old estrogen pills that's more full than a fresh prescription
Feels bad, I wish I could give it to a trans girl in need. But it's probably expired

>>7996017
Me desu

>>7996030
Yes because tell her to hold on is soooo good.
You girls are fucking retarded.

>>7996030
tell them how to CWE codeine

>>7996025
>There's a guy to my left
you should move up and sit next to him, he might be lonely too

>>7996028
That's just my experience. I was poor af and relied on dissociatives to cope and it wasn't until I got clean that I pulled myself out of the shitty situation. Now I imagine I could try certain drugs just to be introspective, but I'd never recommend it to someone poor.

>>7995991
Don't indulge attention-seeking behavior. Almost everyone who goes on long talks about going to kill themelves never ends up actually doing it. She wants you to give her attention and you're falling for it.

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>>7996036
If I move closer I'll be on his lap, we couldn't use his phone anymore if I did that

>mfw people don't realise it's possible to be a drug user and not be stealing car radios out of desperation / waking up lying in piss like you're in Trainspotting / a twitchy antisocial mess like something out of a DARE ad

>>7996033
Ok then
Where to send it to?

>>7996041
The best drug is self fulfillment.

>>7996042
My house please

>>7996040
hey, you found a friend!

should probably stop touching him though, he seems a little...excited

>>7996034
Go on then, if trying to stay positive about someone who definitely is going to get better naturally, if that's so dumb, what am I meant to do?

>>7996035
no idea what that is

>>7996038
Except she's actually in a really bad spot right now.
Her boyfriend who she really liked is moving to the opposite end of the country and he's too far to be able to visit so they had to break up.
Her parents aren't very supportive.
She can't get hrt for another year.

I can't turn my back on her, what if she actually goes through with it?

>>7996046
> excited
It's our lecture, not me touching him.

>>7996051
can't she self-med? I used my student loan and life savings to get started

>>7996045
Have a throw away email
So we can talk about it?

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OH GOD
MAKE THIS THE NEXT OP IMAGE
IT'S SO TRUE

>>7996060
[email protected]

>>7996067
Did you drop your head at the keyboard?

>>7996072
MeineMutteristsehrhässlich :^)

>>7996065
>had a cis girl bestie who knew me pre transition
>she did this kind of shit but I didn't know any better
>she moves away
>make a trans girl friend
>100x better
>actually treats me like a human bean instead of a fashion accessory
feels good. fuck cis girls, maybe after I'm stealth it'll be okay but not until then.

>>7996058
She can't yet self med because her parents won't allow it and she's not financially independent.
She should be able to in a year, which is why I unironically say that things will get better.

>>7996075
That's not nice tho

>>7996090
I made it like 10 years ago lol
It's a nice email I use for lots of spam stuff now and 4chan contacting

Important question for you mtfg:
atashi, watashi, ironic boku, or referring to yourself by name? What kind of girl are you?

>>7996110
This woman doesn't understand your question.

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>>7996110
Atashi for myself
Anata for a certain trip
Anta for everyone else

>>7996087
then she should hide it
I self-medded for 9 months w/o my parents knowing and came out of my own accord, wasn't caught

as I've said before, you deliver to a friend or PO box, then you transfer the pills into two less-popular-brand vitamin bottles (so if a parent finds them they can't tell the pills don't look like they should for that brand) and hide both bottles at the bottom of one of those unnecessary internal pockets laptop cases always have

even abusive, intrusive parents who rummage around their kids' rooms all the time are usually too old-fashioned and technophobic to even *think* to dare touch a laptop case

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:)

>>7996110
Ironic boku

>>7996118
cute

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dkq6Lp8_gg

say hello to dysphoria

>>7996119
Back in high school, I just kept the BCP strips I bought from friends in my pencil case.

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How's everyone's morning going?
>>7996065
delete this

*flex*

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>>7996116
anta wa baka desuyo, CFH

Tfw I'm shipping my hrt to anna

>>7996142
<3

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>>7996110
ironic boku

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Making future plans with my gwadf is really fun!

>>7996143
Just put it to good use since I don't need it anymore

>>7996161
I will, it'll all get used up. Don't you worry. I'll have to go ages more without official HRT.
How comes you won't need it anymore, if I may ask?

>>7996168
Detransitioning

>>7996171
Hugg
Hope life gets better for you soon

>tfw agp is a terminal illness

>>7996175
It won't
Once the hrt is sent I'm hanging myself

>>7996178
W-wew
You shouldn't do that desu it's bad for your health

>>7996178
>using a dead girl's hormones
you bout to get haunted, anna

>>7996177
Pretty sure almost every girl here is too old to be AGP, you're all PCI-E. On the other hand, I'm too old, so I'm ISA. See? No AGPs here.

>>7996178
:(

>>7996178
wait why detrans if youre going to kys anyway
just die a girl desu

>>7996181
>get a ghost to advise me on trans issues
Nice!

>>7996183
I'm pretty slow, so I'm probably sata II

>>7996190
same

>>7996177
nobody takes agp seriously here. sucks, they'll never understand how shitty it is for us.

>>7996183
And I meant that girls here were too young. Too young to remember what AGP was, actually.

>>7996186
I could never be a girl if I don't look like one

I want someone to choke me to death

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>>7996183
>tfw when actually AGP

morning gals

>>7996193
Go to /agpg/?

What do you mean how shitty it is?

>>7996201
hot??

>>7996205
>hrt 5 years
>still get erections when I get dressed
hard to live life

>>7996193
true
it can be just as debilitating as being trans but in different ways
>tfw only sexually interested in yourself

>>7996198
how far along are you into transition anyway?

Hrt has been sent anna.
Not sure how long it will take.

>>7996212
I don't know that feel
>tfw sexual attraction to guys is probably fake and part of the agp

>>7996215
Good luck anon

>>7996215
Thank you
Good luck on your endeavors

>>7996214
3 years

>>7996211
I don't know if it'd work if you're AGP, but have you tried Cypro?
Can't get erections if your plumbing is broken.

>>7996215
Bless you. Please don't hang yourself though anon.
(hugg)

>>7996220
>>7996221
I don't need luck to where I'm going

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I got FFS with spiegel last week AMA

>inb4 too subtle
>inb4 (((spiegel)))

>>7996227
Good luck with your suicide attempt then

>>7996228
Good luck healing up

>>7996229
this

>>7996228
What did you have done and what was the total cost?

>>7996228
Did you get red eyes?

>>7996228
I do not look forward to ffa recovery lol

Obvious questions, what'd you get done and how much was it?

>>7996228
Good job
You just got JEWED

>>7996233
like bleeding eyes? yeah. they are healing up and its kinda gross but w/e he was actually pretty invasive on my brow.

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>>7996215
don't kill yourself please

>>7996228
gorgeous

>>7996228
does that ice lolly taste nice?

>>7996228
not to make you doubt your decision but

why did you get ffs when it doesn't work because it doesn't fix issues with scale, only proportion

>>7996234
>Tyoe III with scalp advancement
>rhinoplasty
>jaw contouring
>lip lift
>trach shave

I got it covered by my insurance but without it it would have been 45k.

>>7996244
O cool. That's what I was told I needed from the surgeons I got a consultation from.

Very expensive... I'll make it work somehow I hope

>>7996243
Because there are other manly features that can be fixed and scale + proportion isn't as important as scull autist makes it out to be

>>7996223
you're really calling it quits after so long?

>>7996249
Yes
I don't look or sound female. T destroyed me and I rather die than be a hon

>>7996240
good af. Trader joes is a miracle.

>>7996243
I look like a girl now lol. unless you've got an insensibly long middle face FFS will fix your shit in most cases. People really dont pick up on that shit. Ive always had a small middle face anyways so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>7996248
>and scale + proportion isn't as important as scull autist makes it out to be
lol....

ffs is a barbaric procedure that needs to be replaced with something more effective. giving money to ffs surgeons is not the way to make that happen.

>>7996252
I have a small mid face and I still look like a guy

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>>7996248
>>7996243
i store my snacks and mtg decks in my expanded cranial vault

>>7996250
would you mind calling someone before you do it? 877-5658860

>>7996252
i'm going to tj's in a bit this morning :)

>>7996247
Tbh if you are spending that kind of money, go with Deschamps Braly if you need any kind of jaw work done. He's a lot more creative with his approach to bone work. though if you just need a type 3 and a trach shave go see spiegel because he did an awesome job on mine.

>>7996253
You are either jealous, stupid or an unlucky person whose ffs didn't work out well.
Ffs is a huge improvement.

>>7996256
I'm not calling some stupid hotline. My decision is set in stone

>>7996252
maybe you were one of the lucky few that it's good for. I don't know. but in the MAJORITY of cases ffs results in a face that looks like an enlarged female's head. it's not noticeable per se but unconsciously it's major.

>>7996256
>i store my snacks and mtg decks in my expanded cranial vault
why do people treat this as some kind of meme?

>>7996261
>Fifa is a huge improvement
Most that posted their results look awful including you, angie and marina

>>7996255
Well my shit is still proportionate idk. Each persons needs are different. I dont think there's a lot of cases where someone cant at least make it to a 7/10 with all the miracles of modern medicine we have.

>>7996253
The only person I somewhat trust about it that didn't tell me I don't need ffs was Chett, and even then, he was obviously selling his handiwork. He did a great job with the lip lift and trachea shave. Impossible to tell I had surgery there and it looks much better than it used to. Everyone else tells me at this point it would just be about looking better, not looking more female.

>it's a skull size episode
might as well get caraposter here as well so we can make /mtfg/ just as bad as the rest of /lgbt/

>>7996267
angie went to zukowski who is super invasive and fucked her face up.

>>7996261
"unlucky" shouldnt be how you categorize someone who gets normal results. the people who come out unambiguously female are very few and far between. unless your goal in life is just to pass in head shot selfies on mtfg.

if i forgot my estrogen yesterday and today i had morning wood, does that mean my balls are growing back?

random straight guy passing through saying a quick "tfw no qt passable mtf gf to cuddle with and fuck raw"

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>>7996262
it'd be better for me if you channeled your emotions into undermining the cishet white patriarchal hegemony tho

hard to do that when you dead

>>7996267
>Fifa
kek

but seriously, how bad did those three get fucked over by ffs? is there no recourse for them against the surgeons?

>>7996273
For real, I was just trying to answer some questions but like everypone here is so secretly jealous they'll actively convince eachother ALL cosmetic surgery doesn't work.

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>>7996273
Cis girls can have massive skulls and still look good.

>>7996275
How
The only issue I see is that her nose needs to be fixed and that lip lift scar

>>7996267
If you think so. Maybe the problem is at your end for being too autistic about certain features.

> ffs get corrected to fifa
Lmao tells a lot

>>7996276
I know quite a few people for who ffs worked fine. There was one person at the clinic with a really huge head but even for her it was an improvement although she won't pass

>>7996276
Most trans women I know who have had FFS pass unilaterally.

>>7996287
"it's an improvement" doesn't mean shit. how can you justify to ANYONE that spending $40k on subtle improvements that don't solve the root of the problem is worth it

>>7996287
hey franzi, have you ever posted before/after photos from the same angles to show the difference FFS had?

>>7996267
I look awful because that picture is 2 days after someone cut my face open.

>>7996291
pass irl next to cis women with no question at all? doubt that "most" trans women you know are like that.

I forgot that /lgbt/ is full of paid speigal shills. I'm out

>>7996285
yeah angie passes fwiw.

>it's an autism episode

>>799629
lol. yeah you figured me out. I need to go get more reinforcements from george soros to shill for big FFS

>>7996211
Have you socially transitioned?

>>7996301
its ALWAYS an autism episode
trannies are 3-10 times more likely to have autistic traits than cis people so...

>>7996293
It's their decision. Everyone gets a photoshopped image so they know what they'll get beforehand.

I won't discuss this further cause it leads nowhere anyway.

>>7996295
I think I did via unsee once or Skype can't remember

>>7996282
Here's the image of the three.
https://unsee.
cc/nabemisu/

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>ywn be an Indonesian cinema gangster who kills 1000 commies

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>>7996312

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>>7996310
why would those girls need ffs, they look great?

>>7996316
They already had FFS. these are post op pictures.

>>7996316
Have you seen their befores?

>>7996319
I kinda looked like this guy pre everything
https://youtu.be/xqKPe9w5bUs

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>>7996318
sorry for being obtuse about it but that was my version of sarcastically mocking the skull autist

they really do look great

>>7996319
no but doesn't matter really

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>>7996310
They all pass
I'm not sure of the point you're trying to make
I remember seeing angie's before pics but I haven't seen the before pics of the other two
>>7996308
true
>tfw probably autistic but getting a formal diagnosis would make me feel awful

>>7996310
top left: hard to judge with glasses /angle, teeth look more unpleasant than jaw.
bottom left: looks like she could pass, forehead bigger problem than jaw.
right: jaw not good but not awful, could maybe pass with correct angle? not that that's useful irl.

wouldn't say any of them look terrible.

disclaimer haven't seen their befores.

>>7996065
lol

with all the time we spend arguing about skull size we could have gotten FFS covered by insurance already or like collaborated with the WPATH already.

>>7996324
>tfw my mom made them test to see if I was autistic but they found out that I wasn't

:^D
I'm normal.

>>7996065
>Never invites you to women only gatherings
This is the one which hurts.

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>>7996316
Because would you want to look like this?

>>7996330
Insurance would already almost fully cover facial surgery for me right now. I'm just not sure I want it.

>>7996335
yeh angie looks great compared to the before

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>>7996065
>*assumes only gay men are attracted to you
i wish this meme would die already

>>7996335
You can't just choose to be a 10/10 girl. It's that or looking like a man.

>>7996336
I mean its pretty helpful for a lot of trans women.

>>7996228
JEALOUS
GOOD JOB
PATPAT

>>7996342
But femboys are just trannies in denial+perma-boymode.

>>7996310
oh, i see
autismo is back

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>>7996325
My jaw is a lot better
I agree that my teeth are awful
This is my side profile from
About 7 or so months.
I had the jaw redone

>>7996345
It is. It's just that, I'm already passing just fine, and I'm 38. Sure, it could make me look even better. But that won't last long enough to be worth it. I would have had it in my twenties, no questions about that.

>>7996338
Ikr

>>7996343
I know that but no one wants to be an ugly girl

>>7996244
noticed the lip lift right away desu. looks really good. so happy :')

whats ur insurance?? pls post before/after pics when ur healed!!!

>>7996350
femboys are the larval form of trannies, but still a distinctly separate group as far as sexual preferences are concerned

School :{

>>7996356
Hello Cindy, how's your morning?

>>7996357
fair enough.

>>7996359
I will and I have premera through starbucks.

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>>7996365
Im on spring break now, so it's gonna be pretty comfy
School is awful >.>

>>7996369
<3

pittsburgh, y/n?

>>7996372
Maybe

>>7996354
looks cis to me.

this is post-redone? how much did it cost both times?

>>7996358
Besides it's been proven that ugly people are treated differently

When will I finally get some boipucci?

>>7996374
No that was before post.
It was 26k first and revision was 3.5k but second time was paid through insurance

>>7996358
>but no one wants to be an ugly girl
Of course it's not perfect, but the choice is ugly girl or male. If you pick the former, you want to be an ugly girl.

>>7996380
Idk about that. Men are often treated better whether they are ugly or not compared to ugly women

>>7996379
maybe you looked different from the front, but imo you passed after the first one. unless the issue was wanting to be prettier, not just wanting to pass, you should have focused on your teeth instead. then again, if insurance covered it...

why so much less the second time? why insurance just for the second time?

>>7996383
Yea but dysphoria

>>7996375
That's no difference compared to the difference in how men and women are treated.

>>7996383
Better how?

so generally is the brow and nose the most important things to get changed? jaws/chins have a lot of variance in cis women so idk.

>>7996379
weird question angie, but how long did your first surgery last like time wise?

>>7996386
Sadly my insurance won't cover othrodontics so I need to pay out of pocket for braces.

Because I didn't have many left over issues after the first time and o was lucky to get on insurance that covered it the second time

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>face skin suddenly feels a lil less soft
i really need to lay off the chocolate ;m;

>>7996401
belly though

>>7996397
eh it all plays together but yeah the brow is usually one of the more outstanding factors.