/ftmg/ - female to male general

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ima comin

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>>7914423
Good edition.

God, I want to get my own dog. When will my life begin

i already reported in today for you knuckleheads but because SOMEBODY felt they needed a NEW EDITION cisbro checking in ama or yell at me whatever

tip of the day is get your burgers well done- steak you can get damn near raw, the surface is the only place liable to have bacteria. hamburger meat is entirely surface, it needs to be entirely sanitized

tell me about your days

>>7914475
What's with your ftm fetish?

>>7914475
I'll get my burgers medium until the day I die bitch, hasn't killed me yet.

I'm heading off to sleep soon for work tonight. Got about a foot to a foot n a half of snow to look forward to. I've been drinking tons of water lately and I think it's enhanced muscle growth as well as generally making me look healthier. Only downside is I can't be pissing 6 times a night at work.

How's your day going dude

>>7914501
you're gonna get burger aids and I won't even feel sorry for your dumb ass
hvacfag. work was easier than normal but it was skull-numbingly dumb corrections on basic stuff that the roofers said they'd do but they didn't because they never do I hate roofers REEEEE
water in general is good. I started using a growler on account of having four. I usually down half of it right after work.
you work inside?

>>7914500
you read me all wrong. im an advice fetishist. offering solid, grounded counsel to genuinely help with their problems gets me rock hard.

>>7914557
Yeah I work freight at Home Depot. Pays okay and I get a solid 40 hours in. Why do you hate roofers? I've done some roofing in my day actually. I do notice that they tend to hsve shitty personalities, roofers, but I think that has more to do with being ignorant and working a dangerous job. It'd ruin anyone's natural good side.

Replying here too.

>>7914242
Your doc sounds like a retard, I had no problems. If anything during this month my muscles got harder and "rounder".

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>>7914643
I'm just gonna keep lifting until something gets fucked up then. I'm a few days short of a month on T now but my dose is going to get doubled (currently 1ml/2 weeks) in April. I'm really going for it guys, I even quit drinking which is huge.

>>7914725
Don't overwork your muscles too much, I've seen (cis) guys get stretch marks on their shoulders/arms from building muscle too quickly.

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>>7914423
Dogs can be cute and I do want to get a corgi in the future but I think I'll still always be more fond of cats, sorry op.

How do you all feel about your mtf equivalents?

>>7915256
The hell is my mtf equivalent?

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>>7915189
Boo.

Chowchow master breed.

>>7915258
I'm ur mtf equivalent hello

>>7915482
How do I find my mtf equivalent? Is this like some anime shit where I gotta find mine so we can team up and fight the big boss?

>>7915740
go to >>>/lgbt/mtfg and fill out the form

>>7914475
I wish cis people would stay out desu, unless they need advice or have another good reason to post.

>>7914423
I have crippling sex dysphoria to the point where I am sure I am never going to have any sort of sex life. (I've tried.) I am wondering how many others are in the same boat as me? I guess misery wants some company.

>>7915867
>I wish cis people would stay out desu
why?

>>7915876
1. They always feel the need to bring up their dicks somehow (Yep, I'm bitter.)
2. Constant comments about how they want to fuck/date a cute little boy.
3. They think we need to hear advice from them. I don't. I don't need a manual to be a man. I find that condescending.

Basically I don't feel a can share the pain I'm in because of voyeurs who don't really sympathize or care

>>7915867
I'm pretty much asexual. I'm not sure how much of it is just me being ace and how much is me having zero interest in using my genitals in any kind of sex with another person, but I've made peace with it.

>>7916087
>be mtf
>have seen the same guy posting in ftm threads multiple times
>just on the front page without even opening the thread myself

>>7916087
I don't mind other people checking out the thread. If things rub you the wrong way this easily maybe you should stay away from the internet.

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>>7916087
>cute little boy

Nah, I want to snog with a real man. Physicality of trans people isn't what's really attractive to me. I think it's more about what their experiences in life made them and how a lot of trans people have similar perspectives on life that are pretty interesting and captivating.

I dunno, if that's condescending to you so be it. But I can't help myself.

>tfw no ftm boyfriend

>>7916346
An interesting perspective on life for you:

Aliens > Alien > Alien 3 >>>>>> Prometheus >>>>>>>>>> actual shit >>>>> alien: resurrection

>>7916346
>I think it's more about what their experiences in life made them and how a lot of trans people have similar perspectives on life that are pretty interesting and captivating.
describe this more?

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>>7916087
>Bring up their dicks
Yes this is literally a thing all men do for their entire lives. Easy way to sense someone who lacks confidence in a group is making sensitive jokes and seeing sensitive and overactive results from people. Aka simple pecking order teasing shit
>fuck date cute boy
so what? That's how humans act, they see something they like, and they start to either obsess or achieve it(sometimes both).
it's everywhere on everyboard, in every culture. Hidden or open, people talk about who they want to fuck.
>do not need advice
actually in all reality you would most likely need some, like every man while growing up. Accepting other (specifically elder and or more experienced in the subject) mens thoughts and opinions help you become more of a man growing up. Even as an adult male its simple humility and respect that allows us to take advice with consideration. Even if we dislike or disagree with the information given, its the respect that men give to each other that help build up a "man"

Is Siri an ok name or am I being extremely stupid?

>>7916441

>not being the übermensch

>>7916460
stupid imo

>>7916381
Aliens = Alien
It's dumb to compare an action movie with a horror film.

>>7916460
a complete retard

>>7916460
oops

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>>7914423
Best doggo is corgi/shiba mix.

>>7916087

if the people tell me to fuck off I will. every time i post I get people asking me honest questions and I try to help

1. no
2. im straight
3. it is genuinely possible that you can live the rest of your life an island, without requiring advice. if you are, in fact, one of those people, then you're one in thousands, or tens of thousands. the vast majority of people who infest this earth require the constant input of knowledge from their peers during their formative years to end up functioning adults. if you can fully operate without a manual, then you've not only done better than me, you've done better than any man in general, because all the best of them have one thing in common: they're constantly learning from their mistakes, those who found success in the past, and from their peers.

if you are that guy, I need you to teach me how you did it.

>>7914594
you nailed it. attitude mainly, over time. good luck at work senpai


idk people should I fuck off?

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>>7916381
Ridley Scott all the way. Not the biggest fan, but I'd be down to have an alien marathon and cuddle.

>>7916392
From what I've experienced, going through with transition requires people to develop certain assets and attributes that cis people usually don't need to develop. If you were to ask me for a list of these assets and attributes then I can't really say I can provide one. It's more of an overarching vibe I get from all the trans people I've talked to. (specifically one mtf that I had a pretty steady friendship with until a couple months ago).

And whatever these personal traits are that I can't find the right words for, I find them endearing and captivating.

Does that explain it?

>>7916597
>If you were to ask me for a list of these assets and attributes then I can't really say I can provide one.
that's what i wanted, but 'overarching vibe' is something.

>>7916643
Some things I can name would be introspection, and I feel like Trans people all have a healthy sense of needing to prove themselves. Like, a lot of them try a surprising amount to keep themselves healthy and clean. Even if some fall into bad habits like drugs to cope with the mental stress of transitioning, Trans people are some of the most tidy people I've met.

Another thing would be that they're sexually open and surprisingly confident if you make it clear you have no problem with them being Trans or into weird stuff. They're usually really sure and open about their kinks.

I think one of the things I like most though is that Trans people are "edgy", for the lack of a better word. They have edges and corners. They're not flawless, human beings who can't admit that they make mistakes or can be wrong. They all have stories to tell.

There's definitely more that I'd need time to really put my finger on, but those are some things I can pinpoint off the top of my noggin.

>>7916692
very interesting. those all make sense but i didn't know they were so universal or evident to others.

>>7916441
>>7916342
your opinions are duly noted, heres a (you)

>>7916589
>1. no
You literally asked people if they wanted to ask you dick questions in the last thread. Or was that not you?

>if you are that guy, I need you to teach me how you did it.
Of course I get advice from my friends about various things, but I don't need advice from strangers about how to "be a man" which is usually what cis posters are implying

>>7914475
>>7916589
>>7914557
HEY COOL, CISBRO IS HERE!

I got a question, if another guy has small feet, is that something you actively notice? I converted my shoe size and it turns out I'm a 7.5 in men's, is that really uncommon and something you or whoever else would pick on someone for?

>>7916460
that's a girl name

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I love cats much more.

>>7917024
5.5 in mens here. I buy kid's shoes typically. I think your feet/hands are only gonna lead to you being clocked if someone's really looking for signs of you being trans already.

How tall are you? If you're like 5'5" or below a 7.5 shoe size will be pretty middle of the road as far as I'm aware.

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>>7917038
seconded

>>7917384
That dude is receiving the gift of pink eye.

Cisbro is okay. The "big bro" pushiness is... a bit much for me sometimes though. As a dude in his mid 30s, getting talked down to can piss me off... and sometimes the advice feels so, "no shit, Sherlock" that I feel like we are being treated like idiots.

Sort of like how "big bro" types talk to women at an auto shop.

Tone and delivery can use work, but guy is well meaning. Just sort of White Knight of the Holy Spectrum...ish.

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>>7917712
You say the guy is well meaning but he posts stuff like wanting to get a ftm bf >>7916346, while claiming straight >>7916589

>>7917730
Was that the same guy? That is the shit with being anon... when enough people are posting I have no idea who is who.

Unless someone's posts... start to... look like... a rabbit... on heroin... shat all over them... cuz that is growingbeady to ID.

>>7915256
I get along with trans women better than trans men. To completely overgeneralise: trans men are normie bros or hyperpolitical, trans women are chill nerds or take no shit.

My only close /lgbt/ friends are gay/bi men and AMAB NBs though

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>>7917750
Hello, PissyAnon. Daily dose of Brooklyn-hate achieved?

The posts is a direct response to cis guy behavior, so unless there are several cis guys here, it's him.

Evening lads
How's things?

>>7917758
I rarely hate on Brookie, if ever; their posts do look like they have strings of bunny poop all through them, though.

If you want to hate on cisbro, go for it. Once and awhile he gives some useful advice, even if it is delivered poorly with failed attempts at humor (I always took his "tfw no ftm boyfriend" shit as spoofing our mtf guests, but whatever) I would sooner see cisbro post everyday than wade through some of Brooklyn's rambling hippy burnout posts.

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>>7917784
I ran out of food but it's storming outside. I guess I'm gonna starve then.

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>>7917786
Each for his own. I find it weird that you hate on someone who actually contribute but welcome a guy who clearly has no respect for transguys. I for one is tired of babysitting cis guys.

>>7917786
>their posts
his posts

>>7917804
>a guy who clearly has no respect for transguys
How so?

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>>7917816
>>7917730

>>7917821
Well...

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>>7917826

>>7917835
At least he said "bf" I suppose...

This is another thread that deserves pics of dead cats.

Almost killed myself getting home from work, snows piling up like a mutha.

Stay the fuck inside north east bros.

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>>7915867

Yeah. I can't have sex either. If I'm gonna kill myself one day, it's probably going to because of genital dysphoria. I can't have anything up there, I've never even used tampons. I can't afford a good packer (let alone one you could have sex with) to help me and the surgery is far away at this point. I haven't even had much growth downstairs and I'm almost a year on testosterone. Not that having a T dick would solve all my problems - looking at photos of ftm genitalia I sometimes get dysphoric to the point of sickness. I mostly just try to forget that I have any genitals at all.

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>>7917730
Two different people. Am anon who bosted about ftm gym buddy and chances are that he homo.

Will leave now, understand that I'm not whalecum.

'Ave fun lads.

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>>7918320
Man aren't you touchy

>>7918361
why are cats so dumb

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>>7918370
ur dumb

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>>7918379
I'll have you know that I've only been in special ed classes for 14 years of my life.

I have 4 cats

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>>7918443
You have 4 cats in a tiny trailer?

>>7918483
Parents refuse to get rid of them, plus 2 dogs. I want to move.

>>7918483
mother is practically hording animals at this point

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>>7918487
Let me get this straight. You live in a trailer, but you live at home. So, on the property or something like that?

If it's your parent's furballs why does it concern you? Do they make you watch them or something?

>>7918499
Because they don't take care of them, they barely have the money to take care of themselves. It's like watching a mother starve her children. theres fleas everywhere. shits depressing man

>>7918499
Maybe his parents live in a trailer?

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>>7918507
I live at home in trailer with my parents, I can't really buy my own house or apartment right now. I'm still in school *nudge nudge*

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>>7918505
Dude, give the pets away to a new home. At least then they would be treated well. Don't tell your parents. Maybe mother dearest will think they ran away or something. They're outdoor cats right? or indoor/outdoor?

>>7918507
It looks like a tinyass trailer though.

>>7918538
just indoor cats,

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>>7918550
Oh. Do they get in the trailer or are you safe in your hidey nest?

>>7918555
yeah they're in the trailer but I keep them out of my room.

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>>7918564
>two dogs and 4 cats
>in a trailer
Jesus christ. Good that you have your room as safe space at least.

>>7914475
Any tips for a good workout routine? I see a fuck load of info graphics about this and that, but I wanted sound advice from real people. Also what kind of diet could go with it? I'm a skinny underweight 5'9 manlet so it's about muscle gain, not fat loss. How's your day, I'm playing torment tides of numa numa and if I can give some advice in return you should give it a try.

>>7918564
You're a gypsy aren't you

>>7918602
how the ever loving fuck?
anon stop your scaring me
yeah, my family comes from a line of gypsies, how did you guess that?

>>7918610
that anon is a jew wizard don't trust them

>>7918610
You look like the thousands of gypsies I see roaming around, plus you mentioned living in a trailer and that's what all gypsies do. All of them, I'm not exaggerating. There's gypsies encampments over here where all of them hoard their trailers to live in this gypsy containment area. Italy is chock full of those. I can smell gypsies overseas.

>>7918613
I'm just Italian and we've been coexisting with gypsies for around 500-600 years, it's a long lasting acquaintance

>>7918308
iktfb
we're pretty much identical, though i've at least had decent t-dick growth (2-2.5" at 8 months)
i want to be completely post-transition by the time i'm 20, after being jewed out of having a normal background for an early transitioner i pretty much deserve free surgery by this point, but i'm not sure how i can be post-transition in that short a time period and it's just going to keep fucking ruining my life like everything else and i'll never get over it

>>7918618
I-I can read your tarot for you a-anon, I learned how to read tarot when I was 12ish

>>7918627
What else have you learned?

>>7918632
How to give a mean blowjob

>>7918632
I was vaguely taught about magic and stuff but I'm not entirely sure if I believe it. I use sigils sometimes and use tarot when I dont really know where my life is going, which I haven't really used in quite a while. I'm afraid to really talk about it because nobody around me really believes in magic and is always skeptical and laughing at it.

>>7918627
Did you really, the gyppos here don't read tarots, but they sell crap of dubious origin for a few euros which is a good enough service. Sometimes your copper drain or copper wiring disappears mysteriously at night but it's the price to pay to get bikes for 10 euros
Read my tarots you crafty gyppo

>>7918641
What kind of sigils?

>>7918638
Ah yes the famous dicksucking gypsies

>>7918505

supposedly lavender oil gets rid of fleas... idk for sure though

>>7918627

i know how to read those too, i'm full of useless skills...

>>7918641

skepticism is pretty understandable considering people are taught that kinda thing is bullshit their whole lives generally, coupled with a lack of experience... i used to be a lot more close minded about that kinda thing in the past, but life is funny...

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>>7918642
have any focus in life or question for the reading? or were you just being ironic ey

>>7918660
mostly goal focused sigils, things like "I want to get noticed in art" or some other things.

>>7918674
No i was being serious, I've never had a tarot reading. As far as questions go, will I make it past highschool next year or am I destined to be a forever dropout? Will I get any shit done before september or are the next months just more crippling depression with no changes? Do you need any other info

>>7918690
I can't necessarily give you a definitive yes or no to these questions
High school- theres a great chance of you getting a diploma

Depression- you'll have to do with the burden of depression but you will have a long time of ease

take this with a grain of salt if you will.

>>7918725
A long time of ease? Any more details on that?

Tfw no ftm bf to teach how to be a man and they can teach me how to be a women

>>7918729
maybe a period of not so depressed or maybe a new pill that makes you not depressed, could mean a number of things desu.

>>7918730
Not sure what you expect. Most transguys I've experienced have sucked at pretending to be a woman. Look for an AAP instead.

>>7918741
Well I sucked at being a man but that doesn't mean I don't have 20 years experience of it.

>>7918751

you have 20 years of experience being a transchick... that shit's different

>>7918735
Ah I'm not on pills or planning to be on pills, just waiting to be off blockers to start T and the wait is making me depressed. Been on that shit for too long. But eh, that's good to hear. Thanks based gyppo

>>7918763
You realize trannies are mostly socialized as their birth gender right? That's what she means by "20 years of experience". The fact they were trans all along doesn't change societal expectations and experiences they made as male\female. All of us saw both sides, more or less so.

>>7918763
A trans chick blending in with dudes...don't be daft dude. I'm male socialized. And youre female socialized. Leave the tumblr memery on tumblr.

>>7918751
It's easier for someone who's afab to rebel against female responsibilities and actions, than it is for an amab to rebel against male ones.

>>7918764
No problemo

>>7918771
>>7918773
based early transitioner raised male master race

>>7917816
>>their posts
>his posts

Don't be hyper sensitive, not every occurance of a gender neutral pronoun is a jab at someone.

I just get tired of the "War and Peace" length posts about H. Brooklyn can do whatever the hell he wants, but when he is active the thread it can feel more like /withdrawl and birds general unabridged/

Shaving advice and a reminder to replace my "go bag" in the trunk is more of a contribution than that, and I will admit that having a junky shit on another anon's genuine questions about psychiatric meds because "they made him [Brooklyn] worse" when he was 85% likely to have been also on who knows what concoction of street drugs without informing his prescribing doctor did more than a little to sour my opinion last thread. That sort of contribution is potentially dangerous, esp without context of who is giving advice.

>>7918771

you realize that what i mean by that is that most transchicks don't properly fit in, people sense something off about them typically and they don't get the full male experience...

i couldn't tell a transchick how to be a woman, chicks never treated me the way they did each other... i never had that interaction, so i don't know it the way they'd wanna hear it...

you're forgetting that sometimes people can't hide who they are, other people pick up on it and treat them accordingly... so when i say that i'm talking about that shit

>>7918794
You're reading too far into this my man

>>7918776
You're an early transitioner? I was raised without expectations to conform to either gender and I've been on blockers for years, don't know if that means early transitioning. Maybe socially, cause I've been presenting as male for almost a decade, but considering where I live I'm lucky enough to have ever received blockers in the first place. There's a lot of gatekeeping for hormones though.

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>>7918778
Get your panties out of a twist. I'm the one he was advising and he did tell me to not see his advise as an alternative to psych help, but as a stand-alone thing.

Why can't we have both advice and weird personalities in this general? We need both bones and meat to make a body you know.

>>7918794
A lot of people don't fit in for many reasons, but let's be honest, the majority of people might at best sense you're a weird autist, nobody has the tranny radar on point. Some have different interactions cause they come off as uncanny or not easy to interact with, and it's not just part of the trans package. Unless you tell them or make an effort to present nobody's going to pick up on your trans-ness unless they're a psychiatric professional. Just saying a transman\transwoman will have had some life experiences as their birth gender no matter what.

>>7918772

see: >>7918794


>>7918778

i told them to consider taking antidepressants actually... and to talk to their therapist

i did share my experience with them yeah, but i also said that my experience wasn't likely to be theirs so i wasn't trying to discourage them... i told them about meditation as well, but i wasn't the person telling them to avoid meds entirely...

my drug history has nothing to do with that...

>>7918802

nah, just an observation based on the way i've seen gay/trans people get treated by their peers...

>>7918802
He's right though. I've never been treated like a girl by cis girls. Transpeople are not the same as cis, and people tend to notice.

>>7918824

i'm not autistic, and people have just told me they know i'm trans or asked if i was... i've never been able to hide being trans or being bi from people, they always know

of course they have some experiences, but they don't always have 100% typical experiences...

Just bc you didn't fit in with chicks that doesn't mean you were treated MOSTLY like one for you're entirely life up until you started to transition.

You all make it seem like being trans is a social development disorder

>>7918836
How many people don't have 100% typical experiences for a fuck load of different reasons aside from being trans? It's not an exclusive. People are treated differently for a variety of reasons, being socially inept, being uncomfortable to hang out with, being mentally challenged, you name it. You'd learn more from a cis person, but in a mtf\ftm relationship there's advice to be taken from both sides regarding socialization. Consider a lot of people also repress or try hard to fit in anyway. You're not the only example of a tranny, a lot of people do hide it and go extreme masculine\feminine to repress.

>>7918862

who said i was the only example? i've also seen it with other people... i'm saying being trans is something you can just tell with some people and as a result they get treated different by their cis peers...

assuming someone trans can tell you how to behave like someone cis is sometimes nonsensical is all i'm saying

>>7918828
>i told them to consider taking antidepressants actually... and to talk to their therapist

After you got chewed out, B. Your intial advice was "drugs are bad, just meditate" which changed or was clarified after several rambled down the path of elipsis. I for one have lost people to suicide because of that shit advice. So it irks me.

Do I advocate a "Fuck off, Brooklyn" because I strongly disagree and ... bleh... find that outlook "triggering"? No. B can do/say whatever and get called on it.

The thing that go me going on this was coddling a case of "bawwww, cis guy with a dick i r triggered" when 4chan is not your fucking "safe space", ya puss. Go to an ftm invite-only discord if the existance of a cisguy and his dick bothers you so much. Policing an open forum is bull shit... and driving a cisguy ally off because he is mistaken for a different cisguy who is a chader will just make this thread more of an echo chamber than it already is.

Very few posters have had top surgery, fewer still have had bottom, if generous maybe 75% are on T... but probably less.

Many are just starting out, and an older guy, even a Chad, who can/will anwer questions while at least trying to be respectful is useful.

Don't toss out a resource because someone can't handle the internet.

>>7918850

not saying it's a disorder in that sense, just pointing out that it can affect a person's experience...

>>7918889
If we go by anecdotal experiences then I know trans people who were socialized male\female up until they came out or started transitioning on their own, and surely enough they'll know more about being male\female than a person who was born the opposite gender and lived as such for at least their entire childhood. It's still something to be learned. It's not about learning how to be cis, it's about insight on experiences made in one's lifetime. That anon said "teach me how to be a girl", and you might not be able to teach her all things girly, and she's learn more from a cis female, but a ftm is better at teaching some of that than another mtf if you get my meaning.

>>7918912

why don't you go back and read the thread? there was someone else telling them the meditation thing, not just me... i wasn't the one who got "chewed out" for that, cuz i wasn't the one who said it... so that "shit advice" didn't come from me, you're just putting shit on me that i never said...

idk why you're going on about the cis guy, i didn't even involve myself in that conversation... i was brought up, but people discussing me isn't the same as me being part of a discussion...

>>7918921

again, never said that doesn't happen... just saying someone trans isn't gonna necessarily have that kinda insight

i don't talk in absolutes cuz there aren't any...

>>7918928

+ >>7912145

that was my first post about anti-depressants and meditation... literally said in that post that antidepressants do work for some people...

>>7918627
can you read mine? it's late here so i'm gonna go to bed but tarot is an interest of mine
18
leo
what's the outlook on all my horrible life problems? (kek i learned to make tarot questions as open-ended as possible and they all just look like that now)

>>7918965
You're going to have to find a balance between everything, it's going to be a struggle and you're most likely going to loose people in the process.

>>7917228
Nah I'm 5'7.

>>7917712
>mid 30s

Hey man it's your fault for being old as fuck on a board full of 18 year olds.

>>7917038
Cats are pretty selfish and retarded unless you luck out, dogs actually interact with you more than "feed me and pet me when i feel like it". I've had both dogs and cats, but I've only found one non-asshole cat, while all the dogs I've had (and I've always had multiple at the time, now I have 4) were loyal and intelligent animals in their own ways. Even the dumb ones were noble retards if you get my meaning.

>>7919032
>Hey man it's your fault for being old as fuck on a board full of 18 year olds.

True, true. That's my bad, I suppose. I can always just leave you lads to your pity parties and cat memes.

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>>7919094
>noble retards
Good grief. Who want's a sniveling retard no matter how loyal they are? A burden through and through.

>>7919122
Your pick if you'd rather have an asshole litter shitter. I was describing the two dumb dogs I had with that adjective. Majority are smart and good companions. But still not my fault if you can't recognize good virtues and appreciate those. Even if the dog in question is dumb, their loyalty and affection is still something to praise.

>>7919157
So what, it doesn't matter if they fuck up completely as long as their intention was good?

Wouldn't matter if a man raped a girl because he though she would like it?
Doesn't matter if a fireman fucks up and 8 people burn to death because at least he tried?
Doesn't matter if a pit bull kills your mother because he's a retard and thought he was protecting you?

Incompetence is the most damaging vice of all. Noble retards should be gassed, no matter the species.

>>7918610
>gypsy
I find myself suddenly triggered. I knee-jerk against Irish pikies but you must be the Sinti kind.

>>7919188
Dogs > cats
Deal with it cuck

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>>7919032
7.5 on 5'7" sounds a little small to be but probably not noticibly so. I know people recommend wearing bigger shoes to make your feet look better but that can fuck up your posture. If you do this don't go over a half size.

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>>7919193
ur the cuck

>>7919189
I really don't know what kind of gypsy I am, I just know that my family comes from a line of gypsies, and that my mother taught me magic, my mothers mother (grandma) taught her magic, etc. etc. why are you triggered lad?

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>>7919189
D'yah like dags?

>>7919188

>toxoplasmosis

>>7919234
REEEEEE

>>7919230
Irish travellers are fucking scum, m8. Set up shop on whatever bit of council land they can fit their shitty caravan on, steal from nearby houses, let their mangy dogs snap at kids until police move them off and they go to the next football field up the road.

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>>7919280
your mom is still dead, dude

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>>7918624
i often wonder if theres something wrong with me for having so little growth. i dont think i have very high T levels - my period stopped around 8 months and i've heard that some people dont get decent levels on androgel. cant switch to sustanol because of nut allergies, gonna go straight to nebido once i can afford it.

my gf seems mostly fine with our non-sex situation (we're poly so she has another partner with whom she has sex) but it frustrates me so much and i feel really inadequate.

ATTN MTFG what do you think of this?

https://www.change.org/p/donald-trump-overturn-the-anti-christian-ruling-against-aaron-and-melissa-klein?source_location=petition_nav

>>7919292
>MTFG
Excuse you.

>>7918821

did you give the meditation a try? just wondering...

>>7919334

meditation shit* was what i was gonna say, my bad... i just smoked, there's so much fucking snow outside that it's depressing...

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>>7919334
I did. Don't see much change from my normal meditation yet but I'm going to keep working on it.

>>7919230

what kind of shit did they teach you?

that chick i was with was greco/roman pagan i know very little outside of that... and i knew fuckall about it before i met her

>>7919292
I come here when I don't want to think about geopolitical 12D chess

Anyone here /supplements/? What kind do you take? I'm doing milk thistle (beat the fuck out of my liver), this liquid fish oil that tastes like shit, and some digestive deal because I think I went overboard on protein and was shitting rocks. Plus vitamin B12 and C sometimes if I feel like another pill won't drive me nuts.

>>7919359

it takes time... my issue was getting dumb songs stuck in my head while i was trying to meditate, that's a constant thing though...

i haven't been able to meditate the same way any more, some thing changed after some shit i went through... but if it works for you it's an interesting experience, and you'd probably find it worthwhile

i did it every day for a bit over a month or a month idk... something like that, a while before i got the hang of it though

you're almost there when you get visuals (colours) and can feel pressure...

>>7919360
pretty much tarot and sigils and a few other things like astrology or palm reading but I don't use those really.
>>7918641

>>7919397
Ever get to the vibration state? I guess it's when you know you're getting deep inside it, you start to feel weird vibrations. I haven't hit it or anything, my discipline isn't that great yet.

I'm a meditation fag too, although I've gotten more lately out of thought free awareness. It's when you stop thinking and just observe the moment of time/ place you're occupying.

The sense of self, who we are, is built during times when we don't have technology, media, or people around. Thought free awareness is cool because it helps you look at things with new eyes and can bring that spark of life back to our routines.

Instead of escaping with a phone or whatever, really immersing yourself in the moment you're living in. I know it sounds fucking gay but I've made far more peace with my general existence though this than anything. You start doing it for longer and longer and you find that often in life you're just hung up on all different types of shit and operating on auto pilot. The auto pilot doesn't go away when you stop thinking of shit, you just gain this moment of serenity.

>>7919410
and meditation

>>7919429
when meditating, don't try to stop thinking, this will come naturally. after doing acid, this has become a /lot/ easier. Every time I meditate it feels like I am a floating bodyless brain. Then again, I do meditate quite frequently. I find if you set up a time to meditate every day, reaching the "vibration state" is a shit ton easier.

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Got a consult with Dr Schechter in May, he does phalloplasty as well as top surgery. Think he'd show me some phallo results if I asked during my top surgery consult?

>>7919380

i should be, i haven't been... i cared more a few years ago and now i'm just like "eh fuck it i'm not gonna get better anyway"

i've never taken milk thistle, but i've heard mixed shit about it... lamb's ear is supposed to be good for your digestive system, it doesn't look edible but it is and the leaves are kinda like sage leaves just big... but in your case liquids + fiber are probably more what you need

most vitamins don't do much, dietary sources are better

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>>7919448
Mm I've dropped acid quite a few times myself, it always works well as a "hard reset" if my life starts getting fucked up (or feeling fucked up)

I don't have to intentionally think about not thinking when I meditate, thought free awareness is slightly different shit, I just find that I have trouble incorporating it into my routine. Or I try doing it before I sleep and end up falling asleep, that type of deal.

>>7919491
Fish oil is really hard to get significant amounts of without eating fish all the time, which comes with the danger of ingesting a shitload of mercury, which the body can't flush easily. I'm pretty aware of nutrition and shit, currently putting together a lifting diet so I can eat maybe 160g of protein a day (no way I can actually hit 2g/lb of bodyweight, I weigh 125 currently so meeting in the middle) without having to worry about auxiliary things like vitamins and minerals or digestive issues.

>>7919410

oh got'cha... i know some shit about astrology (from my ex + a friend of mine) and i know how to read tarot cards, but i know fuckall about the other shit

i've had 2 friends read my palm before, but idk all the details about it...

how do sigils work exactly?

>>7919429

i've felt the vibration thing yeah, but what stands out the most is that...

you ever hit the point where it feels like you're going through a tunnel, then past the stars into just absolute nothingness? you feel open, and like nothing and everything is there at once, and there's this euphoric sensation like everything is fine... you can feel everything and everyone, you're connected and there's just peace

had a weird experience the one time i got clear visuals...

i do the other shit all the time, the awareness thing... it's how i get through every day actually... i just focus on what's happening in any given moment and then everything can be fine most of the time... unless something shitty is currently happening... i slip up occasionally with it, but most days i've got it down

that shit helped me deal with extreme suicidal depression so it doesn't sound gay at all to me...

>>7919448

i don't feel the brain thing... it's more like dissolving into everything and everything dissolving into me... there's no me, but there's peace and euphoria

interesting to hear someone else's experience though

and you're dead on about the thoughts thing

>>7919529

i get you... dandelion might be good for your liver too, it's been a minute since i've thought about medicinal plants though

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>>7919538
heres a basic run through of how I make my sigils
write out what it is you're trying to achieve as though you already did it/have it (example: "I have a nice electric guitar"), cross out all vowels and repeating letters ("HV NC LTR G") cast a circle and write the letters together, I made a magic alphabet for sigils long ago that I still use.
pic related

>>7919572

oh so it's chaos magic then... i know how those work

i don't know a lot of the wording or formal shit when it comes to this kinda shit... i haven't really studied it and what i do know mostly came from 2 different chicks...

nice alphabet idea

>>7919572
Huh, we /x/ now I guess. I'm far too much of a skeptic for the whole magic thing, although I do understand how completing a series of actions while focusing on a goal could help with putting mental energy toward achieving it. Or at least keeping it in mind.

I've always found tarot cards to be cool, but astrology is a load as far as I'm concerned.

>>7919846

i'm agnostic about everything personally... but i've had some interesting experiences, and trying to sort them out has led me to studying this kinda shit

personally i prefer buddhist philosophy, but it doesn't work for everything...

astrology is a lot more complicated than i would've guessed... my ex was really into it, she thought it was important when it came to some shit i'm not explaining...

anyway i've checked it out since then cuz of that shit + some guy was talking about it in here and i told him i've only ever known chicks who were into it... and then i thought about those chicks and how easy they are... and that was the motivating factor really

but there's an insane amount of detail in those fucking charts...

i'd be impressed if someone could ever guess my sign or some shit though... no one ever gets that shit right, even people who really believe in it

>>7919966
You're either a leo or a virgo

>>7919966
I'm convinced that astrology became popular because it was a way for people to go "our signs are compatible!" which got your foot in the door if you were around the right person. Now that it's fallen out of favor with normies I see no reason to brush up.

t. libra

>>7919572

if i can find it i'm curious about what you'd make of this tarot reading my ex did... she wrote it all down and gave it to me, but she never actually told me what it said and i've read it but second opinions you know?

>>7919994

eh it doesn't count when i've said my bday in here and the person who's guessing might know it... virgo though

>>7919996

oh i meant it like i've had chicks ask to read my chart and then they're interested after that, but they start to like talking about it... and i had nothing to add or any idea, so rather than nod like an idiot...curiosity you know?

besides like i said i have reasons to be curious about what my ex believed in, which includes astrology...

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>19, pre-t, college student, still living with my parents
>Trying to get in shape, to maybe reduce my awful women hips and thighs
>Have to buy women's sports trousers because of them
>Try many different pants
>Everytime I have to look at my horrible female body, have to listen to my femenine voice everytime I speak to a store clerk
>Feel like I'm having a meltdown in the middle of the store, smiling as if nothing's wrong anyway
Maybe I was meant to die young, though I'm not strong enough to die nor come out (really conservative family)

>>7920221
this is why I hate clothes

>>7920221
No real advice for ya, I actually got on T without really dealing with my family because I don't live with them (20 y.o) just get your ducks in a row to move out.

>>7920221

you just gotta live with it 'til you don't have to unfortunately, which i know doesn't sound helpful... find other shit that keeps you going, focus on that

i'm not built like you, but i do know that if you work on your upper body (shoulder's arms and back) and lift you can help with the way your lower body works

aren't pants just unisex anyway pretty much? depending on the cut...

constantly feeling dysphoric is shit, but it doesn't mean you can't live aside from it, and living with it in spite of it being painful is worthwhile

>>7920606
>find other shit that keeps you going, focus on that
For now my cats are keeping me sane, they are such lovely cuties with very distinct personalities. Plus my boyfriend, who supports me and tries to help however he can

>aren't pants just unisex anyway pretty much?
Not if you have a gigantic badonkadonk and a narrow waist.

Thank you for the kind words, anon.

>>7920299
I'm trying, I'm studying architecture and trying to find a job, eventually gonna get there

Who /neverneededbras/ here?

>>7921368
I think you mean who /alwaysgotstaredatfortheirridiculousnippleprotrusions/ here

>>7921371
>nipple protrusion
What.

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>>7921411
are you fucking serious

>>7921371
Ah man I used to go to high school with this chick a couple grades younger than me who I thought might be a budding FtM (I was out at the time) and she never wore a bra and always had her tiny boobs sticking out a ton. Smuggling dull ice cream cones level. She was pretty cringy and I always thought about having a talk with her about how not to act horrible but I knew it wouldn't work.

>>7921419
>implying my chest is that big
Cis cuys at the gym have bigger tits than mine, I've always been a washboard.

>>7921368
I spent a whole year at 11 or 12 convinced I didn't need them because I didn't want to admit I had boobs.

>>7921437
I literally posted my chest on /b/ when I was underage and people thought I was a little boy trolling them.

>>7921433
>how not to act horrible
Who cares? It's not the worst social faux pas in the world if you can see the shape of a cis guy's junk in his pants and nipples are far less bad than that.

>>7921451
There was other shit going on as well. Didn't want to get too longwinded. Nipples were actually the least of her problems but sure as hell didn't help.

>>7921368
I have repressed that memory so hard that I am unsure if I needed bras or not, it's just binders all the way down desu. I know I started off with ace bandages for a whole year

>>7921435
Anon's referring to the nipples, not the boobs.

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that first kot of the day

why aren't there as many transmen as transwomen? is it because it's hard to fetishize being a man?

>>7923310
>why aren't there as many transmen as transwomen?
the ratio used to be skewed in favour of women (male) to a bizarre degree, but it is now roughly equal between them and men (female)
in fact, <18 it's about 3:1 ftm:mtf
>is it because it's hard to fetishize being a man?
there are a whole lot of aaps, but 'aap transition used to be much rarer' is my running theory for why the ratio used to be mtf-skewed, especially given it simultaneously used to be thought that androphilic trans men are an urban legend

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>>7923310
Really activated my almonds

Evening lads

>>7923379
morning

>>7923314
one of my mates didn't even know ftm was a thing until semi-recently
Not sure how someone with the internet misses that memo, but there you go

>>7921437
I did the same, actually. I also used to be insanely jealous of my brother too because he could still run around shirtless by that age but I was no longer allowed to once I began to grow breasts. So instead, I opted to at least not wear a bra because denial is a bitch when you're a child.

Even as an adult, I would try to get a slight relief from dysphoria just feeling my shirt against my back with nothing else there. But then I started binding and that changed quite a bit.

>>7921856
What about them? Even cis guys have nipples. Unless they're freakishly huge I don't see the issue.

>>7923314
Maybe because it's easier for ftms to pass than mtfs? Usually ftms and more twinkish cis guys look about the same. But mtfs don't look anything like dykes or normal women. Which makes mtfs easier to spot when out in public.

>>7923511
not the ratio of people who look trans in public, the ratio of people who present for treatment/get hrt/get surgery
it used to be mtf-skewed and getting more equal the younger you are, now it's equal and getting more ftm-skewed the younger you are
also trans guys are pretty obvious if you know what you're looking for

>>7923314
>>7923516
do you think thats real stats or tumblr ayydens doing it for non binary funsies?

>>7923516
Maybe Idk what to look for then. I get that the population in general, passing or not, is fairly equal. But I know I can spot an obvious trans girl from across a room easier than a trans guy.

As far as media attention goes though, I think mtf have more in the celebrity ranks than we do. All we have is Chaz Bono, Buck Angel, and that Elliot guy who has the acting talent of a wet sponge.

What do you do on your rest days, lads? I'm never able to completely rest, I at least do one hour of cardio and some ab work or I go nuts.

>>7923536
the stat for underages is pretty legit, it was from a study in a major toronto gender clinic
the nonbinary funsies-ers usually identify as...nonbinary, and 35% of so-called trans people are 'nonbinary' according to the us transgender survey 2015, but they also came up with roughly-equal numbers for mtf and ftm

>>7923539
>that Elliot guy who has the acting talent of a wet sponge
jesus fuck that dude is so irritating.

>>7923539
>But I know I can spot an obvious trans girl from across a room easier than a trans guy.
interesting how even height plays into the mtfs are visible and hated ftms are invisible thing. you see the hulking gross looking hon from across the room and don't notice the 5'2" aiden until you tie your shoes

>Elliot
there was a ftm actor?

>>7923549
where are all these male nb's? is tumblr being mostly afab just a meme?

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>>7923545
spend time with creatures you care about

>>7923556
no, roughly equal numbers of women (male) and men (female)
80% of nonbinaries were girls

>>7923556
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm7893886

He goes by Elliot in every role he's in and always plays a trans character and his story arcs always revolved around him being trans.

Like, I understand the need for more trans characters but I hate the argument that tumblrites preach about only trans actors should play trans characters. As an actor, I think it's very limiting of one's ability and skill. Especially for an actor who passes so well as cis.

>>7923566
oh i cant read lol

>>7923568
wow i literally did not know he existed

ftms really are invisible!

>>7923566
Yaoi fangirls are a large part of the nonbinaries.

Reminds me of a couple of "guys" who didn't even take hormones or at least presented as male. Just had terrible anime haircuts and one of them was pregnant and tagging their rants "transpregnancy".

>>7923578
>when pregnancy attention literally isn't enough for you

wow

Is it difficult to get top surgery pre-t?

>>7923682
I got it no problem, but I also saved up all the cash for it to pay upfront. I did have to do a short interview on the phone about being trans/how long I'd felt dysphoria etc. but it was maybe 10 minutes tops.

>>7924082
Who did you go to? How much did it cost?

>>7924122
Just under 8k. Went to Dr McLean near Toronto.

>>7924140
Thanks, man. Was it full mastectomy or peak-hole?

>>7915256
The one actively transitioning mtf I have a relation to is also 50% overlap in the venn diagram of people I talk to about music. She's more into progressive rock and music theory than I am, though. I'm all about history.

>>7924147
Regular old DI. I'm pretty happy with the results.

>>7924180
> progressive rock
Shit taste

Top ten manry jewelry:

1. Wristwatch
2. Dogtags
3. Cuff links
4. A smooth, preferrably matte ring
5. Pocket watch chain
6. Bolero tie
7. A single earring
8. Tie pin
9. Eyebrow ring
10. Simple neck chain

Honorary mention: collar clips

>>7924273
We have had Multiple arguments about this, but since I like Eurovision Song Contest we usually end up at a stalemate.

>>7924300
incorrect

1. a tongue piercing for sucking cock
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999. everything else

>>7924307
That's gay as fuck.

>>7924318
Not that anon but who said you can't be gay just 'cause you've a cunt, really.

>>7924307
Why are tongue piercings so good for oral?

>>7924362
feels good man

My sister found out about me and wants me to tell my family. Should I just an hero? Wait a bit to move out again?

Alright guys, someone just told me about a "new" study that's supposedly been done in the USA, where they figured out that misgendering trannies is actually completely unrelated to depression and higher suicide rate, which sounds like a load of bullshit to me. Tried looking for it on Google but I couldn't find anything. Have any of you heard about something like this?

I was on my three-month-checkup the other day and was told that apparently I've access to a speech therapist should I so wish. my voice has dropped a bit, and I'm not sure how much deeper it'll go. While I'd love for it to go deeper, I've been focusing more on the way I speak because that's something I've more control over... I like to think I don't have the Aiden-voice, but judging yourself is hard.

TL;DR:
Rate my voice, tell me for how long your voice kept dropping, do I need/could use a speech therapist? Money is not an issue because socialist country. I've also considered joining a choir (there's a strong choir tradition in my city + family)

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1wAVefVkh3P

Eh why do women want to have a cock? Aren't women always the ones that criticize male genitalia??

>>7924582
idk, go ask the women, yknow, the mtfs, and the lesbians.

>>7924558

i imagine it's that the physical dysphoria and the mental components related to that are more the issue... idk... i wouldn't give a shit if someone called me "she" every so often if my physical dysphoria (chest and voice are the worst... it's a shame i enjoy shit like singing and i can be obnoxious and loud) was less of an issue... it's not the source of the severe physical related discomfort that was one aspect of why i tried to hang myself anyway

>>7924581

it's hard to tell entirely when someone's reading... your tone of voice is fine, but i can't tell what you sound like really speaking

>>7924581
It sounds fine - better than mine did at three months, although like the other anon said the speech pattern you have when reading is usually pretty different from speaking. It might be worth one or two visits to the speech therapist just so you have a bit more confidence when speaking.

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woah this is just like /mtfg/ but weirdly different, its weird to see the other half

also more serious question, do you guess get chasers too? its gross to to you guys too?

>>7924951
I'd love having cis girl chasers, it's be a nice change of pace. I've always gotten gay/bi men, which happened when I wasn't on T too for some reason, and I'm not interested in men in the slightest.

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>>7924964
really cis girls? hmmm i guess that makes sense since we get cis guys, do they like the V or something?

>>7924988
he meant that as in we get a shitload of cis men and no cis girls but that it would be nice if we did get those instead

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>>7925016
oh whoops sorry me being tired hmmm that's interesting

i leave you guys alone now

>>7919188
How is that even the same shit, I mean unless you're baiting, then good bait, but if it's not it's pointless to argue because you're too dense anyway. A dumb dog doesn't hold responsibilities it's just a dog who's dumber than average, your life doesn't depend on them, but they still happen to be good companions. I mean no shit you wouldn't train a tard as a service dog but those are few selected ones, you can play fetch and share affection with a dog who's not the brightest star in the sky just fine.

>>7924558
I can believe it. Depression/suicide is usually linked to dysphoria/the inability to pass. If you don't pass, you get misgendered often, and your dysphoria gets worse.
I don't think there's kids an-heroing just because someone knew they were trans and purposely called them a girl anyway
That's in my experience.

>>7925410
>Depression/suicide is usually linked to dysphoria/the inability to pass. If you don't pass, you get misgendered often, and your dysphoria gets worse.
So what happens if you don't pass but also don't get misgendered and get treated just as a girl (or boy for ftms), because progressive surroundings?

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Silly question
What's the ftm equivalent of thigh highs and chokers?

>>7925573
That being, what, fetish gear?

>>7925462
Physical dysphoria, also even with progressive surroundings, it'll never be 100% misgenderless if you don't pass since you're bound to come across people you don't know (like in a store).

>>7925573
What, memey shit that usually only ayydens wear?
I guess.. beanies or jeggings/women's pants.

>>7925588
But I mean how bad will the physical dysphoria of not passing when you're on HRT be to you alone, ignoring other people?

>>7925585
Fun lewd stuff to wear
>>7925602
Ooooh interesting, thanks ^^

>>7925573
definitely beanies, plaid button up shirts, skinny jeans, lip and nose peircings.

>>7925634
idk about you but I wear no beanies or plaids at all and don't have any piercings.

>>7925699
we're talking about ftm stereotyes, I occasionally wear plaid shirts, moreso before and when I first came out, but thats about it for stereotypical ftm.

>>7925634
Ah forgot about the plaid meme.
Also bowties.

>>7925699
That's a good thing, kiddo.

>>7925875
yeah, I'd probably cringe to death at myself if I did wear them

>>7925634
Oh shit I qualify for three of those. I swear I'm not an Ayyydin lads.

>>7926347
Get im
>>7925875
Eh I think plaid and beanies and the piercings are ones but I think bowties are more of a lesbian thing or a transtrender thing.

>>7925634
I have nose and lip piercings, plus ear gauges on both lobes, but I dress like I came out of a 80s cheesy cyberpunk book cover. I like neon shit. Does that put me into ayyylmaoden territory?

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Pre T
Does my body pass so far, I've lost as much weight as I can

>>7927416
>thinks losing weight is the key to passing

>>7927443
Can't pass when you have big soft rosy cheeks

>>7927416
Nope. The anorexia meme has gotten stale, if anything it emphasizes your hips.

>>7925634
Also ace bandages

>>7927416
noodle, post front

>>7927927
I regret using ace bandages in my youth, stretch marks all over my chest, bleeding, scabs, and no way to breathe, for an entire year.

>>7928035
You're supposed to just cut underneath the breast and let all of the milk fluid drain out.

>>7914557
>offering solid, grounded counsel to genuinely help with their problems gets me rock hard.

D-daddy?

CISBRO IS GIVE beers in AND STILL LOVES YOU

shouldn I change my name im not going to namefag that's for LOSERS >>7928035 >>7928035 >>7928035 but am I being a dick by saying cis I missed the fallout of that conversation

fuck you anyway tip of the day is black twitter is the only education you need

ama specifically how many beers ive had if you EVER install black pipe and there's a leak in it and I have to go back and fix it and pressure test your work and you've used PLUGS instead of caps I will duct tape you upside down to the side of a semi and let you die from inhaling wasps at 65 miles am hour

good how was you're day

>>7928035
listen you little shithead
last thread you posted that album. I never said that 10/10 would buy a beer and play pool with, I wish you the best.

>>7917024
no. if you're self couscous, wear skate shoes. actually if you're self conscious get over it the kind of hoes that care about feet are shitty and guys don't notice. you should have at least one pair of good boots though. invest in leather uppers and a good treatment like huberds shoe grease and by God will they last.

>>7918594
look up the ottermode infographic from /fit/. what worked for me might not for you but open exercises (not machine), heavy resistance, and regularity are something nobody can dispute are key.

>>7928162
the FUCKING you want bb

the FUCK you want I'm on mobile idk if that changes the meaning appreciably

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>>7928213
Im only a loser on tuesdays you fuck, plus, I'll beat your ass at pool kunt
I namefag because people recognize my face anyways, and this one rant I had against someone about beards a year ago giving me the nickname Elliot, might as well go all the way

Almost every ftm i see who's had any kind of top surgery has weird nipples. I saw examples from all the surgeons in my state of Michigan who do these procedures and they all are iffy at best with nipples. I'm angry because i finally have the money and can take the time off but I'm sooo fuckin nipple picky.

One surgeon does not require a letter of approval though and he's the closest to me, so he might be the one. I'm eligible for keyhole but every surgeon says double incision with nipple graft will result in the flattest chest, complete breast tissue removal, and smallest nips. Idgaf about the scars.

Also some surgeons don't use fluid release tubes, is that a red flag?

>>7928303
Alex Bertie is doing okay, check out his YouTube after videos
It's mainly because it's hard to shrink them and make them convincing, if you have small nipples before you'll be okay

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>>7928324
I have small breasts but my nipples arent small. Fuck. This is what I'm working with, and my binder gives me bad acne.

>>7928577
Men can have nipples that size

>>7928577
I thought this was me for a second lol

>>7928577
How do so many pre t forms have happy trails?

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boyfriend wants me to pound his butt but im nervous
how i prepare for this
he a virgin down there

>>7928944
experiment with lowkey buttstuff (together or him by himself whichever he finds more comfortable) like fingering and small toys to get a feel for how sensitive he is and how douching/being clean works

for sex you'll find out by experience if he prefers getting stretched out a bit first or taking the donger asap but generally the first time you're inserting it during the sex session insert it a little bit, hold, keep doing that a bit in and out and then start pushing properly

if you encounter a little fleck of shit it's not the end of the world but for cleanup reasons you might prefer to use a condom. i prefer black ones for this reason and because i think it's sexy. like any sex act the key is communication and being able to read his responses. you'll get better with practice

lube up plenty and enjoy the ride

>>7928796
I'm not pre-t

>>7928796
PCOS.

Just got treated like a junkie at the pharmacy. It was kind of funny because the old bitch literally said to my face that she thought I'd do something bad with the needles but I spent almost an hour in there.

>>7930041
That's a weird assumption to make. You could have been diabetic.

>>7930061
I know. Straight up told me I looked like someone up to no good because of my piercings.

>>7928213
> I will duct tape you upside down to the side of a semi and let you die from inhaling wasps at 65 miles am hour
is there porn of that

>>7930067
Could've called a manager on her ass, if you wanted to.

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Anyone here tried to remove their own moles?

Did anyone here ever have any second thoughts? I'm living as a woman but I was boymode for most of my teenage years until I came out to some friends and got laughed back into the closet. Then I told an MTF friend about it a few years ago and she basically said "I'm sick of hearing this 'I was a tomboy as a teenager' shit from cis girls. You're a girl." but I can't shake the fucking feeling.
I want to be a guy in my day-to-day life and I'm already masc to the point where I get cruised by lesbians, but when I'm alone I put my hair down and play with makeup and shit because it's fun to feel pretty sometimes. I don't know what the fuck I am.

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How do you guys cope with being a manlet? I'm 5'3" and I want to fucking die.

Pic related, it's Peter Lorre, famous manlet from the golden age of Hollywood.

>>7930916
I cut two of mine off with a dull, serrated steak knife. I thought they'd never stop bleeding.

>>7931019
>Then I told an MTF friend about it a few years ago and she basically said "I'm sick of hearing this 'I was a tomboy as a teenager' shit from cis girls. You're a girl."
Wait how do tomboys prove you're a girl?

>>7931048
She was insinuating that I was another one of those tumblr-level genderqueer bois lol

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>>7931047
>I cut two of mine off
Oh, great. did you...
>with a dull, serrated steak knife.
oh....

Dude, why. I know ferret people are crazy but dude

>>7931056
Oh, pretty dick thing to tell you.

>>7931019
Do you get dysphoria living as a woman?

>>7931041
>How do you guys cope with being a manlet?
By being attractive.

>>7930417
The worse part is that she's the one in charge.

>>7931158
Dysphoria isn't some objective measure. He might feel ok as it is but if he was never allowed to act masc, hello dysphoria.

>>7928577
tiddies

>>7930916

nah... unless there was something wrong and i had no means to get a doctor to do it then i wouldn't bother trying to do that shit on my own... you could just say it's bothering you and get it removed to be looked at and covered if anything...

>>7931047

goddamn... why wouldn't you buy a razor first?

>>7931019
I had a few years of serious repression because of self-doubt. Also had a fondness for makeup and dressing up as well. Ended up realizing that I liked it for crazy Goth and costuming/SFX shit (and acne hiding wizardry), and that making myself look like a normie woman everyday just led to dysphoria and misery.

I think the transformational power of make-up and costuming also made the hobby really attractive to me as a trans guy. The ability to radically change the perception of my face/body through visual hacks gave me a lot of hope that I could be more than the sad meatsack I saw myself as.

>>7931041

it doesn't prevent me from getting laid or directly cause dysphoria so i can live with it... besides i've been the same height since i was like 11 so i'm used to it

>>7931158
Yeah, absolutely. I've always been ridiculously uncomfortable with having a vagina, to the point where I can't even have sex unless I drug myself prior. I can't touch it or put things up there because it freaks me the fuck out. Putting a tampon in there feels about as comfortable as putting a tampon in my fucking eye socket. I also get really grossed out and uncomfortable when people draw attention to my "femaleness" or use female language to describe me, like being called a fucking restaurant "hostess" instead of "host".
But idk when I'm by myself and I can do girly shit on my own terms its ok. I collect vintage clothing and I'll like wear dresses for fun but it's more of a costume/fashion thing just for the look than like "who I really am" or whatever. Idk. Reading this over I do kinda sound like a fakeboi

>>7930916
I removed a few chicken pox scars on my own. Took a while, as the fuckers somehow grew back.

I'd recommend going to a dermatologist and seeing what they say. Apparently you may have a shot at it being covered under your insurance if the doc suspects that it could be cancerous. Some docs can be very broad with their suspicions, because they know you just want it hacked off for cheap.

>>7931239
Damn, you have a point. The costume/fashion thing is definitely a big thing with MTFs but I never really thought it could be a trans man thing too.

Where are you at now? Are you happy?

>>7931264
Sounds like trans to me.

>>7931264
Use pads or birth control if it doesn't have an adverse reaction.

>I also get really grossed out and uncomfortable when people draw attention to my "femaleness" or use female language to describe me,
What ways do people do that besides the "host" language? For friends you can ask not to be gendered that way.

>Reading this over I do kinda sound like a fakeboi
Being trans doesn't mean you have to abandon anything you enjoyed about being female.

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>>7931019
I publicly rejected feminine things as a child because I recognized very early on that playing with barbies/my little ponies/liking pink/whathave you made a big difference in how adults treated you, and I refused to accept the dolls I got as gifts from family. Still, I did play with MLP dolls with a friend of mine and enjoyed it tremendously, but denied it to my parents.

There's nothing wrong with liking femininity, just analyze how you enjoy it and why. I have a friend who grew up being the tomboy, and still refuse to wear dresses if she can get away with it because she don't want to deal with the "aw, you're so pretty in dresses why don't you wear them more often?"

>>7931041
Bruno Mars is 165 cm, still generally agreed upon to be a cool and pretty attractive guy.
Prince was 158 and considered a sex symbol all his life.
It's all about how you carry and present yourself.

>>7931264
I don't think that makes you any less trans. I enjoyed wearing dresses and skirts too, in private, and looking "pretty". Haven't done it lately though. There's lots of cis guys who like it too, actually. I think it might be some form of agp or something, just minus the sexual part I guess. Just the liking of crossdressing.

>>7931331
Yeah, I think I already have high T cause my periods are light and only last like a day or two so they aren't really a big deal.

As for the language, people always throw dumb gendered words out there like "bad bitch" this or "damn girl" that or whatever lol. My friends don't really do it and I can deal with strangers; what sucks is when I'm stuck at a job where I have to wear the female uniform and get called a fucking hostess or waitress. When I get my degree I'll be out of this hell though.

I don't really know what my next step should be, I guess a doctor's appointment.

>>7931354
>I publicly rejected feminine things as a child because I recognized very early on that playing with barbies/my little ponies/liking pink/whathave you made a big difference in how adults treated you,
How did it change how they treated you? Interesting that it wasn't the toys themselves that you didn't like but the gendered treatment.

>>7931041
I'm 5'1" and it's not that bad. Girls will still be interested in you if you don't act like a betafag.

>>7931354
>"haha oh shit that guy looks like a fucking midget"
>"I wonder what 165 cm is in inches "
>I'm only an inch taller
baka

>>7931396
No way Bruno Mars is actually 165cm, he looks shorter. I'm 165cm and I'd look like a giant next to him.

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>>7931386
Don't know if it did. I had an attitude of refusing to be passive and pretty and cute, even if I didn't mind stuff like princess movies in and of itself. If I refused to accept the "pretty princess" treatment, adults seemed more prone to accept that I was a person with actual interests and preferences and not just a walking blob of pink girlygirl. But I also had the luck of parents who didn't mind me rejecting femininity so YMMV.

Today, I indulge in different ways. I'm more secure in myself and in the people who surround me, and I'm good enough with words that I can make it sound ~trutrans~ even when it's on the topic of me occasionally cosplaying female characters.

>>7931396
>>7931409
To be fair, it's very much in contrast to Taylor Swift who's tall as is and is wearing heels in that photo.
The Weeknd is 173, so I assume Bruno has some sort of heel or insole in this photo.

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>>7931432
>>7931409
>>7931396
Another hot tip is to become a glamrocker so you can just wear heels 24/7.

>>7931432
>adults seemed more prone to accept that I was a person with actual interests and preferences and not just a walking blob of pink girlygirl.
It's awful that children get treated like this.

>I'm good enough with words that I can make it sound ~trutrans~ even when it's on the topic of me occasionally cosplaying female characters.
How do you do that?

>>7931432
Isn't that Lady Gaga next to him? She's 155 and I'm going to assume her heels are about 10cm, 15 at max, so he can't be 165.

>>7931476
"I don't mind cosplaying female characters, because it's so obviously a role I put on, it's not me I see or intend to see when I look in the mirror. Their femininity isn't who I am and I only portray them, in a way that can be likened to an act. Femininity never came naturally to me so it can even be seen as a craft of performing femininity."

And yeah, it's fucked up. Again, adults would get up in arms whenever I did the slightest feminine thing like I was finally fulfilling my destiny instead of dicking around, and that wasn't exactly helping me wanting nothing to do with it.

I still like a lot of traditionally feminine things, part of the reason I decided to start transitioning was so I could feel more comfortable in liking feminine things or feminine ways of presenting without getting shit about not being trans enough. I come from a tradition of alternative fashion, and adrogyny is key.

>>7931546
Look again, he's definitely wearing some pretty significant heels, not that much shorter than the models' (just chunkier). I'd guess maybe 5cm? making him 170, which seems reasonable if The Weeknd is 173 and wearing flats. Which would make Lady gaga something like 175? Wearing platform heels, maybe? I agree that it seems like a lot but assuming that two of the measurements we've got is correct is more logical than assuming that only one is.

>>7931613
Wikipedia says Lady Gaga is like 155cm tall and I don't see any particular reason why she'd want to lie about her height. In comparison with the other models it doesn't quite add up though.

>>7931462
I want to go into music anyways so fair point, manlet sex symbol status here I come

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>>7931660
Mystery solved - look at those stripper heels, damn.

>>7931687
Make us proud of you, anon. Are you planning on doing it stealth?

>>7931698
The Insole Clown Posse.

>>7931613
>And yeah, it's fucked up. Again, adults would get up in arms whenever I did the slightest feminine thing like I was finally fulfilling my destiny instead of dicking around, and that wasn't exactly helping me wanting nothing to do with it.
It's more than fucked up, it's self-defeating, since trying to push you into gender-conforming things only turned you off them! So even by the view that pushing conformity comes ahead of letting kids be free, that treatment isn't right.

>part of the reason I decided to start transitioning was so I could feel more comfortable in liking feminine things or feminine ways of presenting without getting shit about not being trans enough.
It's unfortunate that social issues like that are a factor in transitioning.

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>>7931698
This is like an optical illusion, it's fucking with me.
He doesn't look so short in the third pic considering Taylor is 5'10 and wearing heels so what's up with the first two? Did she take off her shoes?

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>>7931899
Judging by how the audience looks in both the first pictures, compared to the third picture, it might be a matter of a weird optical illusion thing from the focal length of the lens (the faces in the audience in the first photo look about the same size as Taylors despite obviously being several rows and many meters behind her). As in despite standing a bit behind him having a very narrow lens will compress foreground and background, making her look taller since she's not compressed by perspective, leading to some serious height shenanigains.
Third picture is also obviously posed for, so chances are he's on his toes and she's leaning down slightly.

According to google, Taylor is 178 cm, so if she's wearing heels she'll be nearing 190. He doesn't seem to have any sort of heel in his shoes so assume it's 25-30 cm difference and the third picture is probably more alike what you'd experience in reality.

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>>7931991
>>7931899
Also, this.

>>7932953

>>7932953

>>7932953

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>>7931041
God i love that guy.

It's really how you carry yourself, dude.
Or move to a largely hispanic city and be in company with a much shorter on average population. There's plenty of machismo oozing manlets in my town.

How do you come out without coming off as cringey or like you're trying to instigate drama? I know that a lot of guys will say to write a letter or to sit down with your family to have a serious talk and make the announcement. But it just seems too theatric to do it like that and I know my folks don't take too well to that stuff.

When I came out as gay in high school, they denied it up and down and tried to spin my words anyway they could to make it seem like I was just looking for a reason to feel sorry for myself. But didn't give a single fuck when my girlfriend started coming over and we got caught almost about to have sex. My mom simply told me that the pizza was here if we wanted any then left the room. Since then up until we broke up, my parents just saw us as a normal couple.