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/mtfg/ - male to female general

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12000 B.C. edition

• Informed consent providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
• Makeup for beginners: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels: http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• ash is sweet
• Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• Transition time lines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
• Discord: https://discord.gg/2thC8Nd

previous >>7866730
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Cindy thread
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i like this thread better
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lesbians cant do anything right
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There's two?!:0
>>7867910
Pretty lady!
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>>7867945
But I'm a dyke too.
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>tfw severe panic and anxiety that i changed my name and sex and can't change it back without a Herculean amount of effort
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>>7867949
Yes I made this simultaneously as the other one but this can be more easily found in archives.

I'm a dirty splitter. I have failed as a Marxist.
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>>7867958
Yeah this one has the subject!
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>>7867958
Trotsky>Stalin
everyone knows that
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with Ash's support, I guess this is the official thread
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>>7867950
u get to be honorary straight then okay
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>>7867953
Why would you change back, though ?
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>>7867973
idk other thread has cindy cp kinda hard to compete with that
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>>7867982
Yeah
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>>7867973
Because god knows you need to always make passers feel even fucking better about their amazing lives. I bet you go to country clubs and congratulate all the rich people too.
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>>7867982
yeah
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>>7867983
first post in this one does say cindy thread though
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>>7867990
what about mtf and ftm
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the other thread was agp as fuck
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>tfw friends actually liked my painted nails
T-that was different
I guess I'll keep them
>>7867982
Ur a girl
>>7867986
You pass tho
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OK, time to string a few more wires on all the boards. Then solder time.
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my typing comes across as masculine doesn't it.
theres nothing about me that isn't too masculine to make it.
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>>7867973
>\\\< i am not worthy
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>>7867990
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>>7867997
She's just mad about something and unfortunately we will be the ones she lashes out on. :c
My oldest brother has anger issues too so I'm used to it.
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>>7868005
I was like 100 times dumber than you at your age. You're still at the age you're kind of allowed to be dumb.
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>>7867980
Because I'm terrified if telling my boss im a tranny. My boss boss comes into the place once a week and she handles all the checks and if i told her to she has to redo my employment stuff and do my checks in my new name im sure she will laugh at me and fire me, she is only a 10/10 super fashionable rich cunt who probably mocks trannies for fun
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>>7867986
I'm actually related by blood to the Botran Family.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Botran
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>>7868000
those digits look pretty non masculine to me
>>7868005
no ur not
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>>7867986
That's our Kayla

Que Laughter
*The Kayla show was filmed in front of a live studio audience*
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>>7868000
>>7868005
two pity posts in short succession
the cuter poster generally gets more (you)s so my money is on cindy
lets watch
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>>7868008
what fucking state do you live in. im guessing not in one with legal protections for trans employees?
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>>7867994
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>>7868005
let's just cuddle
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>>7868014
i suck
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>>7867997
>You pass tho
To random strangers maybe, but not to any of you. Also i saw my bf texted that im not good looking enough for him to truly love so i really want to fucking die
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>>7868014
rude desu, I like both of them
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>>7868006
look at this reply. 100%class.
how can anybody not like Ash?
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>>7868000
lol if YOUR typing is masculine then i'm utterly fucked. my grasp on english is shaped by metal lyrics and dril tweets so make of that as you will
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I need Beep to cuddle up behind me and tell me everything will be alright.
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anyone else really wanna eat a puss rn
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>>7867928
welp time to play chrono trigger again
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>>7868029
what's that
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>>7868023
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>>7868028
ZheXBeep woukd be preddy cool
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>>7868030
I've been seriously reconsidering it. It's quite short for a JRPG so it won't require a shit ton of investment or risk me abandoning it halfway like I do with most JRPGs I've enjoyed before.
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>>7868030
lets play together
i love that sound track

>>7868036
its the only true ship
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>>7868024
like how do you type like a "man"

i mean what are the differences honestly like idk
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>>7868044
I'm guessing its gender role spooks like women not cursing or using harsh language??? IDK a lot of the girls I've met in this country make my excessive usage of the word "fuck" look tame.
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I need to try and hug a semi truck, preferably as its going 70 miles an hour
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>>7868037
>needs to do dissertation
>plans to start jrpg
Estas loca? tuve que posponer mi tesis de arquitectura por dos años por andar jugando Baldur's Gate II por sexta vez cuando descubri los CDs al estar haciendo limpieza en mi estudio.
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>>7868046
lol im pretty sure every girl says fuck and shit

like in finland especially like every word is vitu vitu
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsIixQOSQS4
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>>7868029
Gross.
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>>7868048
no
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>>7868021
You pass to mtfg, you just have a completely toxic personality and lash out at everyone
That's really shitty of your bf to say. He's seems to have done some bad shit to you (based on what you've posted before), are y'all going to try to talk it over or are y'all going to break up?
>>7868006
I wish she had a healthy outlet to let out her frustration. I don't hate her, I'm happy that she has a relationship and such
>>7868029
Vaginas are weird looking desu
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>>7868041
:3

I have to confess that I wrote that message earlier today.
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>>7868044
>tfw massive hon
>basically buffalo bill from Silence of the Lambs
>no bra
>no makeup because 2poor
>shitty bangs
should I kay em ess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_DVS_303kQ
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>>7868060
wait what?

im pretty sure everyone has felt like buffalo bill at some point ugh gross
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>>7868060
you are mean to yourself
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>>7868057
i used to think so too
idk i really like cis girls now

>>7868052
aren't you straight
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>>7868049
I did my 28k words long bachelor's dissertation/research project while simultaneously engaged in high level autism raiding in Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn and doing an unpaid internship. That word count is AFTER you cut off all the interview appendices, with the appendices it's, well, pic related.

My LSE master's dissertation has a word max of 10k words soooo
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>>7868061
didn't mean to reply to you sorry lol
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>>7868030
>welp time to play chrono trigger again
I've never played Chrono Trigger :(
I should but I've been too depressed to do much of anything

>>7868040
>>7868060
You aren't a hon and you are cute
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>>7868057
Same here, I think she's pretty and just needs some counseling to help out her emotional problems. Heck everyone needs a hand sometimes.
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>>7868057
>He's seems to have done some bad shit to you
Yeah like raping me in my sleep and generally hurting my feelings. Worst part is i keep wanting him to love me back. I love him and just want him to treat me a lil nicee instead of tell me i need bigger boobs all the time.
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>>7868068
yeah thought so

no one ever means to reply to me :/
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>>7868060
>awesome sense of humor
>beautiful lips
>great taste in pizza
>nice tits
>lives in the San Fran equivalent of Oz

i would recommend not kee ehm est. just like grow out your bangs
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>>7868065
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>>7868066
Then i want you to cuddle on my chest.
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>>7868066
Your breasts are just fine.
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>>7868067
te odio estúpida. jajajajaja

¡no se ni que haces en este desagüe!
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are anime girls like fursonas for trannies
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>>7868028
cuddle zhe
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>>7868086
>>7868086
>>7868086
>>7868086
>>7868086
>>7868086
>>7868086
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>>7868086
basically yes, along with anyone else who wants to be a girl
t. occasional animeposter
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Like i asked my bf if we could drive to vegas for a few days and he said if he went to vegas he would just pay for a prostitute. I got super upset and he drove me home and i just keep feeling like shit about getting upset over it. Like how the fuck should i have reacted?
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>>7868082
W-would you dom me?
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>>7868094
do people actually have a fetish to get dommed by a child doesn't really make sense but okay
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>>7868085
I mean for what it's worth that shit was one of the highest stress periods of my entire life. I gained like 20 kilos, became the tobacco addict I am today, just physically let myself go in the worst ways.

2014 to the end of 2016 was, basically, a very extended, slow mental breakdown that reached its climax around October last year.
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>>7868092
we told you
he is only using you for sex
it sucks but you really really need to dump him
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>>7868071
Dump him
I know it'll hurt but this doesn't seem emotionally healthy with this relationship being really one-way
>>7868086
Yes
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>>7868099
hah, who would want that
totally not me
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>>7868086
most of the animus i've ever posted are male
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>>7868092
he wants to break up with you but he's too much of a coward to do it, so he figures he'll do an even increasing set of shit moves until you finally come to your senses and break up with him.
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>>7868089
Nuzzle beep neck with nose.
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should i lose to anime
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>>7868109
Bingo!
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>>7868107
mostly b/c it's an ironic gag that i find weirdly appropriate
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>>7868101
But he made me feel like i was a real human for once. Why can't men stop thinking with their fucking dicks?
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>be the first to circumnavigate the world in EUIV
>the last surviving ship of that fleet is called Hawaii
Burch, you better be happy about that.
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>>7868093
I used the same anime character as an avatar in all non-normiebook social media and forums since like 2012 and still do on discord, skype and LINE.

It's Kafuka Fuura from Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei.
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Buying bf
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>>7868105
well I can't say I approve but as long as you keep it strictly a fantasy I don't really care I guess
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elanna is my transona
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I am off to bed! Goodnight ladies!<3
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>>7868100
>october 2016
that's when I broke as well. like 20 years later than you, but still.

>>7868107
do you have Kurapika x Leorio degeneracy?
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helphelphelp

hwod o i find a transgirl to dom?
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itt: newfags falling for kayla cycle - victim phase
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>>7868109
Jesus this sounds like thats whats going on. But i don't wanna be alone and im afraid ill never have a man love me ;_;
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>>7868126
same
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>>7868124
Selling BF, 2 keys pure or item overpay, paints and killstreaks don't add to item value.
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>>7868129
Nighty night Ash!
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>>7868122
Playing Byzantium in that game is a fucking nightmare.

It's literally repeating your starting moves 100 times and reloading every time RNG fucks you over.

After that first war it becomes such smooth sailing as to be, basically, boring.
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>>7868115
You should def be a Psychology major.
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>>7868106
Don't worry sweetheart i like both ways
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>>7868130
am supposed to know what degeneracy is in this context?
like, shipping?
nah
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>>7868140
DOES THIS WORK IF I AM A TRANSBIAN
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Should I wear mascara if my eyelashes are already girly.

I feel I'm falling too hard for the makeup meme but this shit is so fucking fun to me.
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>>7868138
I'm pretty lonely, I'll pay any price
I just want a boy to hold me and tell me he loves me
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>>7868144
Shipping is degenerate only if you use FedEx. Don't do that.
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>>7868136
none of us want to be alone. but fuck him Kayla. I remember you were doing well previous to this. And one bad relationship doesn't doom you to a life of loneliness. I promise you that it'll feel better to dump him now than later when he starts doing shit moves like kissing girls in front of you.
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>>7868006
You are so sweet goodness gracious
>>7868060
>wearing bras
What is that like ;-(
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>>7868158
Well if you're ever in NY, stop in at Buffalo for some cudds
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>>7868138
tf2 used to be so fun for me now it is complete garbage
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>>7868138
how about my sick duck
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>>7868136
>i don't wanna be alone
The only thing worse than being alone is being trapped in a toxic relationship.
I don't know much about your relationship, but if it is going bad, the break is going to be much more painful the longer it goes on.
You should prepare yourself.
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>>7868075
Does she live in San Fran?
>>7868131
Hi
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>>7868132
Basically
I wish everyone had her filtered all the time but people have to learn on their own I guess
>>7868170
Olive lives in Australia lol
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>>7868168
trip dropped
>>7868167
i still play it because i'm not good at any other games
i played competitive a bunch recently until i got to the highest rank
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i hate my parents
i really fucking hate my parents
i wish i wasn't so useless so i could move out

>>7868122
wew
nice one
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>>7868170
Australia, she lives in the most liberal city in Australia
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>>7868175
Yes!
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>>7868175
It does and it's fun to practice. There's a reason cis women wear it.
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>>7868178
me2
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>tfw no trip roommate
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>>7868168
Not even genuine, I'll pass. The only companion I need is my spy snek.
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>>7868186
;_;
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>>7868170
good morning can i dom u?
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>>7868184
Sass is d-e-a-d!

lol

but don't we both love anchovie pizza?
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>>7868157
Yes you should. Is this even a question
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>>7868193
It's not pizza without onions and anchovies.
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>>7868181
thats interesting
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>>7868194
Should I wear makeup as a boy
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i think the other reason why i post traps is b/c i believe in trying to come to terms w/ the fact that i'm biologically male as i'm transitioning.
maybe i should add chihiro to my trapsona roster?
that seems kind of appropriate, moreso than pitou.
yea, i should do that.
it certainly is a better gag @ my own expense anyway
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>>7868189
Yeah :(
>>7868164
o-ok
I almost got a job up in CT, that was my chance ;~;
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>>7868194
I'm only very slowly learning about how to do makeup and how all this nonsense works.

I'll buy some mascara once I get some cash.
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>>7868200
Wet tube rat. I can smell it through my screen.
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>>7868200
get them a towel quick
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>>7868195
>>7868193
I thought last time we all agreed than


mexican food>pizza
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>>7868204
Well mtfg is here all the time so feel free to ask. That goes for everyone, ya bunch of girly girls.
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>>7868201
Face it. You're too old to be a boy.
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>>7868205
toob
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>>7868203
Unfortunate. I can give you long distance Hugg at least
*cudd*
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>>7868213
What kind of foundation is good without being too expensive. The one I have right now is Garbage.
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>>7868214
how the fuck do you do that
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>>7868214
it's a girl now
>>7868187
x(
i actually sold most of my items to pay for hrt once lol
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>>7868224
snugg
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>>7868216
AAAAH THE LONG SQUIRLS TOES ARE SO CUTE
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>>7868223
srsly wtf ahahah
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>>7868195
Je te aime E.
truly.
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>>7868200
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>>7868224
RIP itens
I would never think about selling my backpack, unless it really came down to that.
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>>7868219
I've stopped using foundation now I don't have a noticeable shadow to hide so pic related is more than enough. Good covering foundation is expensive, it's one area of makeup where you can't really go cheap.
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whats a hangover cure that actually works?
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Are wiener dogs ferrets in disguise?
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>>7868202
besides, i am always this timid irl
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>>7868248
Staying hydrated the night before, gatorade/powerade.
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>>7868248
A bowl of vodka first thing in the morning. Not good if you have to be sober during the day, though.
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>>7868215
Well a 28 year old said I looked like I was in a boy band today so I'll keep saying it tyvm
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>>7868262
No reason to be ashamed!
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How about this, what if i don't text my bf and wait till he texts me?
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>>7868071
he's emotionally abusive of you. Get rid of him now before you need lots of therapy.
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>>7868201
blonde hair, when?
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>>7868254
>>7868256
think I'll go for the electrolytes today thanks
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>>7868178
I hate my entire family :(
>undiagnosed autism
>fail out of school
>no help only yelling and ultimatums
>kicked out, can't function enough to support myself
>rot away on welfare
>sister gets spoiled, kittens, driving school and a trip to Hawaii - I'm starving
>lose benefits, nearly homeless, allowed to move back home
>constant emotional abuse
>grandma dies, sister inherits several hundred thousand in jewelry - get nothing
>granddad dies, sisters inherits a brand new car - get nothing
>beg dad for dental work so literally half my teeth don't rot out of my mouth, he grudgingly helps but now won't talk to me because he thinks I'm using him for his money
I hate them and I want them all to die.
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>>7868267
tell him it's over and block his number/never talk to him again

also that he needs to get checked for hiv, fuck that guy
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>>7868120
It's not his dick. He's messed up in the head.
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>>7868271
What is there to be ashamed about in the first place?
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>>7868269
I already need more therapy than anyone alive. Also the only way i could dump him is if he hit me or if i caught him cheating, anything else and im just being a control freak.
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>>7868269
>before
lol
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Tfw you want mtfg to call you pretty but ur trying not to be a selfie whore
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>>7868281
>>7868267
How can one person me so pathetic lmao
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>>7868281
dump him
he is emotionally abusing you and openly admitted to wanting to cheat on you
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my nipples are seriously starting to hurt wtf >.<
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>>7868286
you're pretty beep
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>>7868286
Post a selfie you pretty girl
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>>7868286
Aren't you pretty though? No need to post a picture if it's already known that you are.
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>>7868281
I'm glad I'm gay
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>>7868285
I saw the picture. Would you be more comfortable if I deleted it?
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>>7868289
Being serious here, don't all men do that, like openly talk about cheating?

>>7868279
He does have anger issues and did punch his own door down
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>>7868290
yea, that'll happen.
get used to it
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>>7868277
damn, you have it tough
i had an argument with my dad once that ended in me staying in my room for six months, then my mom had to fly over to the philippines and pick me up
but she's just as bad and i've had major psychological issues for years and the best she has done is pray for me
>can't move out because psychological issues
>can't get help because stuck in the middle of fucking nowhere with no idea how to go to town or navigate town by myself
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>>7868298
>Being serious here, don't all men do that, like openly talk about cheating?
not good men
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>tfw you used to have no genital dysphoria whatsoever

>>7868296
isn't it literally cp
idk i didn't see it but i wouldn't save that shit in the first place
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>>7868296
why would you save it at all you creep
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>>7868293
Stop slut shaming
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smol girl penis
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>>7868305
Nothing below the waist senpai
>>7868306
I deleted it anyway. It's probably not a good idea to post that kind of stuff though, I speak from experience.
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>>7868195
>anchovies
ew!!!

>>7868201
yes darling. you look good in it.

>>7868267
sounds like a plan.
better plan >>7868278

>>7868281
This is additional therapy...
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>>7868298
fuckin no

abandon this shitty, abusive relationship post haste
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>>7868313
interesting
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>>7868309
Wut?
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Am I pretty? ;---;
>>7868313
Idk this feel
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>>7868305
its more of a case that you had more on your plate with being a boy and hating that in your pretransition so you didn't have the time to deal with your genital dysphoria
same with how peoples sexuality changes
its got nothing to do with hrt and moreso to do with acceptance of yourself and your transition
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>>7868298
>don't all men do that, like openly talk about cheating?
No, and I say this as a lady who was a mistress. He was open about it with his wife, and I knew and became friends with her.
>He does have anger issues and did punch his own door down
If he isn't in counseling for then, that is a very good reason to run.
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>>7868329
tiny pupper
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>>7868320
it is a nice feeling when a guy hits on you in public thinking you're a girl while you're in boymode
>>
who wants to be my gf/bf
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>>7868327
idk i guess
i didn't get too much dysphoria pre-transition besides a few breakdowns over being male
>>
i'll probably never be pretty :/

starting e/spiro this week.. but the bdd isn't gonna help

>>7868331
it's so long
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>>7868335
I'll be your gf(bf)
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why is everything so cute now
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>>7868339
lots of things are cute.
a lot of the things that were disgusting are even more disgusting now
>>
I need to think about making a music server on a Raspberry PI 3. It has enough processor power to do it properly.
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>>7868292
>>7868291
Best girls
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>>7868344
yeah ive noticed that the idea of having to wear boy clothes is even more gross now
>>
i just wish it could have been me
>>
hi my name is anne and ii like to play rock and roll bcos it makes me feel good ama
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>>7868347
o, cool.
someone else who knows about the raspberry pi.
i already have the model you're after

>>7868353
right?
i've also gotten weak af.
i really wish more people would hold the door open
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>>7868360
>right?
>i've also gotten weak af.
>i really wish more people would hold the door open
ugh im already weak as fuck

well whatevs i guess its cool

but seriously jake gyllenhaal is so fucking cute especially in nightcrawler
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I was thinking about the abusive people in my past. The only ones that I had to endure for a long time were the bullies at school. I had three abusive relationships, and I dumped those guys soon after they started being abusive.

>>7868358
What have you been doing music wise lately?

>>7868360
I'm using one to post this, play a music video, run a clock, and operate a light sculpture all at once.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJL4UGSbeFg
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>>7868358
can you please end my life
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>>7868366
playing shows with my band (we played last night and killed, shit was SO cash) and writing songs on my own.

band is gonna start recording an album next month

>>7868367
yeah but first why?
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>>7868366
what is the pi 3 price that's pretty impressive
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>>7868367
no
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>>7868287
as an old fag, you should know it's just kayla making up lies for keks
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>tfw look at yourself and actually feel feminine
Odd feeling desu
>>7868358
What's your favorite song to play
>>7868347
I've been using my desktop as my Plex server, I might pick up a Raspberry Pi for some other tinkering too
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>>7868375
it's okay just do it

>>7868376
shut up Cindy you're like 12 years old you're going to be cis tier
>>
>when even the early transitioners are complaining about not passing
dysphoria is a hell of a meme
>>
>>7868390
>dysphoria is a hell of a meme
makes me feel better about me feeling like a gross weirdo
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>>7868362
well, desu, i was never that strong to begin w/.
my siblings picked me a lot for that.
picked on @ school for "looking gay", girls made it a point to say how pretty i was in dehumanizing ways, like i was some kind of pet to them
>>
i take the best nudes
>>
>>7868404
cindy is a good girl
>>
>>7868389
I don't believe you so I'm going to continue assuming you will be cis tier in a few years
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>>7868375
Cool, I wish you be best luck possible with the album. the more you play, the better you will get.

>>7868377
I got mine at Amazon for under $35. You need to add a 2.4A power supply $10, hdmi? video cable $7, USB keyboard, USB mouse and TV to have a computer. A case $6 to $20 would also be good to keep the fingers from static shocking the chips on the PCB. I have mine mounted to a PCB protoboard with a 5V/6A power supply using standoffs. I'm powering more than the RPI 3 with that power supply.
>>
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>>7868403
respect yourself and your privacy beep
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>>7868404
>tfw no one to take nudes for
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How do I relieve anger.
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>>7868402
i was also picked on for crying & being more dramatic & hysterical more than other guys. being more timid. even if it turns out that i'm cis, which i doubt, it's more acceptable in for me to be this way in my eyes.
i was never good enough as a man
>>
>>7868417
>tfw
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>>7868419
go on a run
>>
>tfw no therapy to help me become a functioning human being
why
>>
>>7868417
you're like 12
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>>7868419
i usually take it out on myself
>>
>>7868428
Its midnight.
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>>7868421
what do you mean "if it turns out that i'm cis"
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>>7868413
i will be a good girl!
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>>7868434
so? I'm sure there are street lights
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>>7868435
Because I used to be your age when I started posting on MTFG and I posted lewd-ish stuff then and I regret that deeply. I don't want you doing the same stuff I did and then regretting it.
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desu before hrt i'd be slutty with lewds on kik like that but after hrt fuck that shit unless it makes me money

or if its someone special like a bf

hrt is magic tbqh its made me smarter
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I feel like I'm being stalked by an anon.
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R8 h8 and masturb8 my living room
Also I h8 myself
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>>7868439
uWu
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>>7868443
*and then having to regret doing it
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>>7868446
I got to see Waters perform The Wall in concert a few years ago. It was pretty fucking cool.
>>
>>7868445
is it me? I like to stalk people sometimes just for fun but I don't think I know you
>>
>>7868446
>bikes

you're better than all the lazy fatties
>>
>>7868444
same lol
i was suuuuch a massive slut before hrt and even for my first month or so
now i'm not sure if i even want to do it for money
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>>7868445
bad feels
>>
>>7868382
If the RPI3 had USB3 ports, I'd turn one into a file server.

>>7868419
therapy...

>>7868421
*hugs* iktf...
I was picked on for many things. being very feminine, crying, timid, long hair, to smart, etc were some of many reasons.
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>>7868446
hugg
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>>7868459
like what causes it? it cant be just the lowered libido meme

like maybe something to do with not having to seek validation knowing that you're only gonna get better and better on hormones but idk lol

anyway fuck having to say 7/10 to fat hairy dudes sending you dickpics
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>>7868456
^^
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>>7868465
i think it's that i'm much happier with my body now
like i actually value myself? if that makes sense. at least my body

yeah that's fucking disgusting
i don't want fat hairy dudes seeing my nudes, period
thank god i didn't take any lewds post hrt (for the most part) bc i can disassociate from all that hsit
>>
>>7868464
>>7868465
Who r u
Hugg
>>
all of you people seem to have had many more and more fulfilling social relationships

i can't tell if it's just bc i'm trans or if i'm an autist, but i have never really developed social relationships on my own. i keep people at arms length and convince them i'm normal but...
>>
>>7868459
>tfw used to take pics for guys on kik all the time before hrt
>tfw haven't even really opened kik since I started because I have no interest anymore
It's nice to have some self worth
>>
>>7868472
yeah, i guess its in a way kind of a nice thing for me like knowing that i no longer have to do this shit. but like i feel kinda damaged in a way its hard to describe

but yeah, i can imagine me growing to value my body more and more

like damn did i really see myself as that worthless to have to seek validation from fucking gross hairy weirdos

>>7868473
im kate
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>>7868473
im lauren
>>
>tfw on weight crash diet
>tfw eat a lil bit
>makes me even more incredibly hunger than i was before

>>7868475
yeah it is
like my body actually feels special now

>>7868478
i think if you disassociate from your male self it helps a lot
but yeah, i mean i didn't even need hrt to be attractive to prison gay dudes and it's just ugh
like lining up at a soup kitchen
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>>7868479
if you're actually that young it's not too late to change that
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>>7868446
do you like ur bike? the wall is a good cd. i dont like hearing any of it on the radio bc it feels like one long song to me
u should clean a little. nice candle.
>>7868449
owo
>>7868457
BYKE LYFE
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>>7868475
oh theres still a few cool people on kik

like this american dude who lives actually like 200km away from me and its so cool hes so fucking awesome he likes dogs and hes fucking hot too

too bad i dont have the self esteem yet to meet him irl :/
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>>7868474
Dude
It's like having a deep shameful secret no one will understand
Being trans is a form of autism btw
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>>7868438
i've heard of such cases, but they are admittedly rare.
genuine cases often persist, as it did for me, i was only hiding it.
i could be wrong, but i ultimately decided that it's better to be wrong & to have transitioned than to be right & to have done nothing
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>>7868489
seems like a meme, but i guess it's possible

>>7868499
bikes are pretty easy to fix if you're not braindead
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>>7868487
It's too small for me but it's comfy
That's the smashed one
Insurance is giving me 350 for it even tho I only spent 200 on it so that'll be nice
I can't clean
Thanks
>>
>>7868474
I've been alive for many many years. FIrst grade through freshman HS were almost totally friendless. I only had the two girls down the street for part of them, and they wouldn't acknowledge me at school. ;_; My only real friends were some adults who befriended me and helped me along in my young life.
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>>7868500
>bikes are pretty easy to fix if you're not braindead
ugh i cant fix shit

im so fucking afraid of having to move out on my own and having to assemble stuff or fix stuff or do stuff to my computer
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>>7868488
I ended up getting a different kik account and started talking to a trans girl on campus and just exchanging advice
It was pretty nice
>>7868485
Yeah
Part of my dysphoria was absolutely no self worth so I degraded myself with stuff like that
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>>7868501
i've found cleaning and keeping my room tidy is effective self care. coming home to a made up bed is oddly comforting

hard to get in the habit tho

>>7868503
that sucks, i bet you aren't anyway

>>7868504
sounds familiar... is there any way to change? i still try to make friends but i completely fail

>>7868509
they're made with uneducated child labor, if you tell yourself you have no choice but to do it and then give it a try, you'll probably succeed
>>
>>7868509
picke up a general bicycle repair manual. Bicycles are relatively simple things.

>>7868503
What's broken on the bike?
>>
>>7868509
Jesus don't remind me that my reality is soon to fall apart. I can barely open jars. I can fix the fuck out of a computer and run low level diagnostics on it, but real stuff? Ugh.

>>7868485
I weight crashed this summer. Spiro made me pee a lot and flushed my sodium out and I biked myself into the hospital. I had a food aversion for awhile when I was starving myself. It sucked.
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>>7868516
>i've found cleaning and keeping my room tidy is effective self care. coming home to a made up bed is oddly comforting
>hard to get in the habit tho
Teaching yourself home ec!
>>
>>7868517
>>7868516
i mean given enough time i might figure a bike out but im worrying more about other stuff thats harder

>>7868518
why is life so hard

i can just barely remove a spider from the house so how am i supposed to survive in a big city on my own
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>>7868474
I have issues with fear of loss so I tend to push people away when I'm really down so they wouldn't have to cope with my death. I put myself in others' shoes a bit too readily, I guess. Never prevented me from making friends wherever I go. Keeping friendships alive in the long run, that's another matter. I always have roughly the same number of close friends unless I just went through a breakdown but they've rarely been the same than five years before.
>>
>>7868518
i'm on bica so i get to sidestep most of the side effects
i was thinking of switching to cypro but bluh the gf's gonna expect me to use my stuff now so probaby not

>>7868524
that's totally me
i get so fucking scared of responsibility it's awful
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hey mtfg

I never post, but I'm really alone rn and I need some advice.

I've been with my girlfriend for 4 years now. She's been with me through everything and our lives are very intertwined.

I.. hooked up with my best friend of 11 years on the weekend and we both confessed feelings for each other.
He's really good friends with my girlfriend as well. We're sort of an inseparable trio that hang out all the time.

I didn't mean to fall in love with him. it just happened over time. I wasn't into boys 2 years ago and now I'm not even attracted to her.

What do I do? Do I break up with my girlfriend? I fucked everything up
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>>7868516
I don't know. I found the science fiction crowd here in Iowa was accepting of my eccentricities. I really suck at the social stuff.
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Tfw recently broke through a plateau in my relationships with my ferrets and now I can't let them catch my cold.
Swim did dmt and salvia while on acid a few nights ago
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>>7868526
>that's totally me
>i get so fucking scared of responsibility it's awful

ugh and they said women dont have any responsibilities
>>
>>7868524
Learn how to do one thing at a time...
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>>7868530
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>>7868524
I really don't know. I'm on the same war path with myself I always was. I'm afraid the moment I'm on my own I'll give up.

>>7868530
Jesus fucking Christ I'd puke so badly mixing dmt and Salvia
>>
>>7868537
>>7868530
the only drug i've ever done is weed

i wanna try lsd once i get my own place
>>
Making a mtf discord. Don't want too many people, but having some friends around would be nice encouragement, you know?

https://discord.gg/9nYGR
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>>7868527
well I think you should tell her and then go from there if you don't love her anymore maybe you should break up
>>
>>7868537
Salvia has always been kind to my mind for some reason.
>>
>>7868525
*HUGS* <3

>>7868527
*hugs*
It's a tough situation.
>>
>>7868527
:/
you probably should break up with her
better than cheating
or see if she's into poly but idk

>>7868533
>porn commission
>procrastinate on writing it
>get scared because i'm late
>procrastinate even fucking more
>>
>>7868544
hugg
>>
>>7868542
just joined this person's group

it's 100% new, just like 3 people in it
>>
>>7868533
>believing what reddit and r9k say about women
>>
>>7868547
honestly im so fucking afraid of everything

like a few months ago at a grill my friend was ordering some stuff and he just fucking yells out all sorts of sauces n stuff and i dont even know what stuff there is so i get some really bland stuff because i didnt know what to say because i was afraid i'd look dumb
>>
>>7868542
>the promised land
you didn't -just- make this discord buddy
>>
>>7868527
you could distance yourself from your friend to see if it's worth it
>>
>>7868552
?

well it looks brand new since there's only a few people in it and the link was just posted
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJL4UGSbeFg
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>>7868548
Hugg qt
<3
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>tfw someone spamming porn in the other thread I'm browsing
>tfw it's just making me sad for not having an SO
delet
>>
>>7868557
i recognized the name
idk, i couldn't join so i assumed i had joined it before
that was discord being fucky though
must have been another discord with the same

>>7868551
ugh i can't stand social stuff at all
i get so fucking terrified like i stiffen up and... ugh
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>>7868542
>Banned for no reason
Avoid this shit like the plague.
>>
>>7868567
https://discord.gg/9nYGR

Try again

new invite. Maybe the last one expired.
>>
>>7868527
I think it's kind of scummy, but if you're going to go that route, you better break it off with your current partner before it gets worse. 4 years though...I'd think about it for a while if I was you, it had better be worth it and not some impulse thing.
>>
>>7868543
Yeah :/ She's really clingy though, I've tried to ask to put the relationship on break in the past and it ends in her sobbing uncontrollably until I apologise. I guess I'll let her know and let it sit

>>7868545
<3 thanks

>>7868547
Not cheating is definitely an objective. I might push the poly thing, I'm just scared she'll get really sad since she's v good friends with him as well

>>7868555
Maybe. It's probably not a bad idea, we could try to go back to just being friends
>>
>>7868567
WHY CANT THEY JUST PRINT ALL THE STUFF YOU CAN ORDER ON A CLEARLY VISIBLE NEON BOARD

oh my god how am i supposed to know what kinds of fucking dips n stuff you have

seriously i hate ordering so much i always get lost
>>
>>7868570
idk it seems like possibly cancer
idk who tf this god guy is

>>7868573
yeah it'd be sad to break it up
:/

>>7868574
why can't they just
chip you
so they can tell you what to order???
>>
>>7868578
It's cancer. Or a ridiculous amount of autism.
>>
>>7868530
slow down : s that sounds scary
>>
>>7868578
ugh idk maybe i'll just stick to ordering pizzas

thats one thing i can do
>>
>>7868580
At least we're sure it's not lupus.
>>
>>7868587
It was lupus one time though.
>>
>>7868580
>>7868578
RUDE

https://discord.gg/9nYGR

I just want some loser friends who are also m2f
>>
>>7868573
don't pressure people into doing poly in this situation especially its just a half ass way for you to breakup with her but not "officially" breakup
>>
>>7868589
Llama flu?
>>
tfw no gf
>>
>>7868565
hah yeah. There's probably no point trying to hide/stop it. We've been best friends since we were kids, even when we were both boys. We took each other as dates to our formal in year 12 as a joke. I didn't mean to actually turn into his girlfriend, life is so fucking weird

>>7868572
Yeah I think I'll leave it at least this week before saying anything to them. Blergh 4 years...
>>
>>7868580
>>7868587
God - Today at 8:27 PM
Perfect!
How did you all get in here anyhow?
I didn't make an invite
How ugly is your body, Cindy?

God - Today at 8:29 PM
I have a girl body
IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT SOMEBODY HAS MADE A THREAD ON /LGBT/ ADVERTISING THIS DISCORD WITHOUT MY PERMISSION
>>
>>7868591
How is it rude. I was banned for no reason whatsoever, friendo.
>>7868593
Let's go with that
>>
I'm a cuck
>>
>>7868597
Quality
>>
>>7868603
yeah he keeps asking if people are ugly lmao
it's autism
>>
>>7868605
Pffffffhahahahahahah
>>
https://discord.gg/M2XyH
>>
>>7868607
>>7868605
i got banned for being a tranny
im not even a tranny :thinking:
>>
>>7868616
i'm a 7 spd automatic tranny
>>
>>7868619
I'm a train.
Choo choo motherfuckers.
>>
>>7868616
yes you are
stop pretending to be male it's not good

also sorry about the arguing yestrday
>>
>>7868616
go to gaygen then this thread is for transgender women
>>
>>7868623
yeah but my friends are here so...
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N2k-gv6xNE
>>
>>7868627
I don't actually care but if you want to go on hrt and be called a female name you're a fucking tranny dude
>>
>>7868638
I tried to use the nearest male equivalent (Karol) but then people just got confused
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>>7868619
Still better than a CDU tranny.
>>
Kate, Karol, Caroline
Are you all a split personality of carol?
>>
Fug i look like a girl in my work clothes, this proggy got my cheeks all full an my titties are poofy
>>
>>7868641
Why would you want to be called like a dead pope?
>>
Coming back to this song again and again. Wish I had a voice like that. https://youtu.be/qCYAsFpqTwM
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>>7868648
Popes are pretty sweet
>>7868644
shh don't ruin our schtick
>>
>>7868641
do you actually want to be seen as male or are you just not completely comfortable being seen as female

>>7868644
hey fransi I got a bra now we can be lazy braless sluts together
>>
>>7868652
Is that supposed to depict the cadaver synod ? Not exactly sweet.
>>
>>7868654
Probably the later
Its sort of confusing
I don't really think i'd be comfortable with being seen as a woman, but I still have dysphoria

eh
i'll probably grow out of it or something
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>tfw recurring nightmare involving a bully of mine from primary school who knows I'm a tranny and who chases me down to beat me up
>tfw waited a few mintutes after waking up from my nightmare to check if he wouldn't rush trough my bedroom door
>>
>>7868655
pretty cool though
>tfw wn be the pope
>>
>>7868643
Get that merkelish face out of my face reee
>>7868646
ResidentSleeper
>>7868652
It's just really confusing
>>7868654
Oh, I started wearing a bra more frequently tho because it gets warm so I don't have 3 layers of clothing to hide my tits.
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>>7868658
that sounds insane

also why is it much better being a girl than a MAN
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>>7868661
but it lets me shitpost with 3x effectiveness
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>there are people in the world who get to look like this
>>
>>7868670
2 much imo
>>
>>7868657
lol hoping you grow out of it is just a completely shit tier plan

desu if you don't want to be male don't be male

>>7868661
hmm guess I will have to be wearing one more often soon as well
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>>7868673
no i mean
i don't want to be male but i don't necessarily want to be a woman

this probably makes 0 sense to anyone but me but eh
>>
jesus fuck carol how are you going to be a man hating lesbian if you're not even female
>>
But I don't want to be a male-hating lesbian
I'm bi and i have male friends too
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>>7868670
not very attractive desu
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>haven't masturbated in a week
>spend ten minutes looking at porn
>can't get hard
what do i even do
can someone just fuck me
>>
>>7868675
okay? be neither then
>>
tfw ur sick
:((((((
>>
>>7868680
you can be bi as long as you're always on top
men are evil don't go down this road
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>>7868683
H R T
R R
T R H
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>>7868683
no T, no sex drive
>>
>>7868683
p-put something in ur butt!
>>
>>7868684
is that an option
idk if non-binaries are real desu
>>7868686
but i'm submissive
also
men are nice ^>^
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>>7868692
;_;
men are weird and a lot of them are really mean!
i'm submissive too but i just want a cute girl uwu

>>7868683
get a vagina desu
>>
how come I want to be a girl when I'm not
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>>7868686
>men are evil
hi quid
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Me too.
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>>7868691
i'll try tomorrow
i really wish i had someone else to put their thing in my butt though
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>>7868696
no men are nice ^>^
i like men
>>7868701
hi chara
did you punishcat your new cat yet?
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>>7868700
get one of the surgeons who use balls for depth
honestly i don't even care about depth i doubt i'd use it
i just want to not have this dangly thing

>>7868701
8)
hey, i'm just saying

>>7868702
h-hi mirielle
what are you doing up
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>>7868701
hey i was told i was shorter than you

idk what significance it has but how tall are you
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>>7868705
Once i get bored of it, i'll throw it away.

>>7868708
You're filled with all sorts of bad views.
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>>7868708
Playing ARURF with my special needs friends.
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>>7868692
my advice pretty much just b urself if you aren't comfortable being seen as male or female just stop caring and live how you want

realistically (at least for now) you still need to pick a side to call yourself so people don't freak out at you but like you personally yourself you don't need to force yourself to think of yourself as something you're not
>>
>>7868710
ded cat
>>7868712
ye ik but like
eh
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>>7868709
Who are you?
I'm 5'4 / 99lb currently.

>>7868714
Soon enough.
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>>7868713
that's what all the top surgeons do

>>7868710
my views are objectively correct

>>7868711
what's ARURF
>special needs friends
>>
you guys are fucking boring
>>
>>7868715
wtf
you're taller than me
>>
>>7868715
>I'm 5'4 / 99lb currently.
i'm like 5'2 but ugh 99lbs i feel fat

im like between 100 and 110

also im new lol
>>
>>7868714
well remember try to just b urself
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How many months hrt does it take before I make friends
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>>7868717
Really making me think my dude.

>>7868719
Not that surprising, you're still going to be growing for about another year.

>>7868721
That is pretty short, welcome to small club clique.

>>7868730
never
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>>7868730
bump
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>>7868717
It is the pure autism mode in LoL. You should join us.
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>>7868335
IM ALREADY YOUR GF/BF
RUDE
>>
>>7868730
daily reminder to b.e yourself and that socializing and making friends takes effort in itself but is worth it
>>
>>7868733
tru ^>^
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Apparently a 30D/DD is basically flat.
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>>7868735
my laptop can't run anything lol
get a ps4 instead :^)
>>
>>7868733
>That is pretty short, welcome to small club clique.
what do i get

a stool for reaching things?
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>>7868742
What is continuity.
>>
>>7868742
>webm
>jpg quality video
Why even bother?
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>>7868689
Having T doesn't always mean having a sex drive. It's a very person to person thing.
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>>7868403
Lemme see
I'm bad at nudes but I think it's because I'm uggo with a gross body
>>7868419
Kill small animals....
>>7868595
:( relatable
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>>7868741
You don't want to be shorter than 5'4 anyway.

>>7868742
>people get off to this.

>>7868750
Sure if you want.

>>7868752
Hi charlotte it's your best friend here.
>>
>>7868757
?
you've posted your body here but it wasn't gross
>>
>>7868743
depends on chest size how large they look I think

>>7868756
hey tranny when are you going to get hrt again and transition
>>
>>7868760
thanks friend chara :D
>>
>>7868745
Your laptop must be extraordinarily crappy. Also, I sold my PS4 recently.
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>>7868764
I'm here because I'm an alcoholic, not a damn tranny.
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>>7868765
Did i ever show you my last cat?
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>>7868762
>it wasn't gross
Why are you lying to me ;---; I have a dadbod ;----;
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>>7868737
so very true...
>>
>>7868760
Hi Chara aka best friend. Wazzup?

>>7868764
They look tiny because they're tiny. My chest is tiny too.
>>
>>7868771
i don't think so
>>
>>7868770
Basically the same
>>
>>7868771
>>7868760
How tall are you chara? Seriously
>>
>>7868770
is that your excuse...
get on them pills again.

>tfw captha uses a sign you know well.
>>
>>7868772
i have the pics right here lol
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>>7868760
>You don't want to be shorter than 5'4 anyway.
hey im still here
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>>7868750
You get to watch people compliment me on my legs and watch in envy.
>>
>>7868785
oh you wanna put that to the test
>>
>5'10
>44" under bust
>47" hips
I feel like a brick...
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>>7868774
Just collecting.

>>7868775
Ah, next time then.

>>7868779
I'm 5'4 as i stated earlier.

>>7868784
My statement stands.
Unless you're a child anything under 5'4 will look awkward.
>>
>>7868787
Sure, all I have to do is put on skinny jeans.
>>
>>7868785
people compliment me on mine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVcl0Iw3fs8
>>
>>7868781
Why exactly? You want my dick not to work or something?

My girlfriend would be cross.
>>7868776
I literally only come here because of a combination of alcohol and nothing better to do.
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>>7868790
Collecting what? Souls?

>>7868792
I'm not opening that.
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chara
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>>7868791
oh thats not allowed
>>
>>7868793
my dick still works.
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>>7868794
lol why is this a thing.

>>7868795
Something like that.

>>7868796
Пpoлeтapии вceх cтpaн, coeдиняйтecь!
>>
>>7868795
It's beautiful '70s rock by Heart.
>>
>>7868790
Aww
>>
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why am i such a horrible faggot?
i really don't trust anyone, even my loved ones.
i'm depressed all the time, & i feel alone, even @ times when other people are compassionate.
i honestly don't know whether i should be interested in men or women, or whether or i even should be dating.
sometimes i feel like i'd only be taken advantage of
>>
>>7868798
As long as you're happy with it, I lasted less than a week before snapping out of my several month long madness into sobriety. Shit hit me real, real fast.
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>>7868798
Tfw
>>
>>7868790
People in the area I come from are really short. Women in my family are all under 5'2; at 5'7, I look like a giant there. Not so much where I live.
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>>7868783
I think I look like a gross man dude ;------;
>no tits
>no hips
>no waist
Kill me sertii
>>
>>7868808
personally I want rid of my dick, but it works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2lXKZ9Zksg
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>>7868810
Location is important.
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>>7868813
Pills aint gonna do that for you hon.
>>
>>7868810
I'm the tall one in my family.
All of 5'10...
Among my relatives on dad's side, I'm short. Only one of them is only 5'10, and she was born without a thyroid.
>>
>>7868797
Lmao, leggings it is.

>>7868800
xD
Role-playing thresh, are we?

>>7868801
Oh. I suppose that's ok.
I'm so used to people posting gore here...
>>
starting today i'll be taking my girl pill in class
help
>>
>>7868809
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwrYMWoqg5w
>>
i haven't done anything today
at all
except for crying when i woke up
>>
>>7868815
$$$$$ and a surgeon...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3j2NYZ8FKs
>>
>>7868833
I spent all of last monday crying...
>>
>>7868834
The issue I had with the whole thing is that I can't accept "close enough" if I can't get cis, then I don't want it.

I guess that's what separates me from trans.
>>
>>7868836
hugg
did something happen
>>
>>7868811
well idk i think it's cute
>>
Squeak/syndie, why are you dropping trip?
>>
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>>7868826
I'm mostly just been playing POE desu.
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>>7868841
;------------------; thank you I guess
I wish it was cute or that I thought that about myself ;--;
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn9E5i7l-Eg

>>7868838
Back in '85 I was willing to accept the state of the art then to get rid of my dick.

>>7868840
It was a bad day. My current life is very fucked up, and I don't think I'll be even marginally functional for much longer. I have ME/CFS with Hashimoto's and it's getting worse.
>>
a few tears is not gonna fuck up your makeup right
>>
>>7868843
Oh, ok. I've heard of that but never played it.
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>>7868847
I don't much see the point in getting rid of a perfectly functional organ and turning it into a fucked up scar that isn't actually the thing you really wanted.

Would be nice to hide it in form fitting clothes though, but worth a surgery? Like seriously? No.

I never understood hrt either, the majority of passing doesn't come with hrt. Helps a little bit, sure, but the majority is your own hard work.
>>
>>7868806
As long as you don't date or stay with someone out of desperation or loneliness, you'll never be used.

That said, you're probably too unstable.
>>
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>>7868850
It's fun, you should try it.
>>
>>7868852
i don't think estrogen does much, but the lack of testosterone is important
>>
my eyes hurt today :(
>>
>>7868856
I'll think about it. I'm still trying to get my Tera character to the level cap and hit gold in league so I can play in a club tournament.

>>7868852
I have a hard time believing that it'll turn out as bad as everyone says it will. The number of positive stories outweigh the negative ones, and the negative ones have been mostly "I'm actually just agp so I feel like it was a mistake"
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nini everyone, thanks los give me some (you)s during this day

>>7868859
I'd kiss them now and hug really tight but softly at the same time
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>>7868852
>the majority is your own hard work
>hrt is just a meme
Oh, and if you actually believe this, you're completely delusional.
>>
>>7868857
Is it mostly like a placebo mental thing? But fuck if it is, it is, placebo affect is real. For reference, I had my T measured in the high range, and I am not a violent aggressive sex craving fiend.
>>7868863
>"I'm actually just agp so I feel like it was a mistake"
Me in a nutshell, good idea I quit when I did
>>7868867
Anybody who thinks outside of the trans hivemind is delusional, I've been here before, I know how you people work. You get tits, your genital starts to degrade, and you become more of an emotional mess. Afiak nothing happens about bodyhair, your bone structure (a very fucking obvious giveaway) is still the same unless you're pre puberty or something, and the voice is unchanged unless you work at it or have surgery. But again, I literally cant argue if you feel happier on them, then you do, I can't tell you otherwise. They ain't cis pills though, call me when those are invented.
>>
>>7868871
>you become more of an emotional mess

can someone answer this please >>7868849
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>>7868872
>emotions
>>
>>7868871
am I really the only one who became less of an emotional mess on HRT?
>>
>>7868852
I get depressed if I thrust, and the dick just feels wrong. Anyways, mine isn't that usable as it's small. I also don't even let myself think to much about the fact the docs removed a vagina shortly after I was born. We can't let a kid run around with both...
My first time around I passed years before I ever got on HRT. My body was busy pumping out both T & E. This time around HRT has helped my mind be more relaxed and calmer. E has done wonders in that regards.

>>7868872
depends on the makeup... Most can't handle it.
>>
why
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hey mtfg
how are you
im feeling LIKE ASS
>>
>>7868885
im about to go to college
>>
>>7868886
ohhh
good luck carol
>>
>>7868872
Think more rationally? Idk about this crying stuff, analyze what makes you sad and do something about it.
>>7868875
Other than...3-4 trans people I talk to outside of this place, this place would make me think hrt makes one an unstable mess. At least from my "outsider" perspective. You could be a lucky minority, or the silent majority? I'd hope the latter.
>>7868879
Totally different scenario if you had both. So your parents had a difficult choice and had to pick one or the other? My real argument is that passing requires more hard work than pill popping. It wasn't really intended to be offensive, but more constructive. HRT aint fucking magic, least that's what the people 'round here drilled into me 3? years ago.
>>
>>7868885
OI
no
not allowed
>>
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>>7868871
>live in Japan
>bend down on one knee and tie my shoelace one time
>hear two guys talking behind me from a few meters away
>something about a foreign girl tying their shoe lace
>finish up, and turn around, looking at them
>soukana, otoko desu
>mfw
>>
>>7868886
Good luck!!!
Keep up on your classes. The material comes at you so fast you don't want to fall behind at all.
>>
>>7868885
>im feeling like ASS
same girl
represent
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>>7868890
>Think more rationally? Idk about this crying stuff, analyze what makes you sad and do something about it.
crying feels good even if its a little sad
>>
>>7868894
represent represent yall
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>>7868892
>otoko desu
Ouch.
>>
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>>7868885
I'm at school rn
I feel quite monday-y and tired but im doin fine

hope you'll feel better soon, Smiles :c
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>>7868898
Mfw
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbuMXyzouJQ

>>7868890
>So your parents had a difficult choice and had to pick one or the other?
They were never given a choice. The doctors did the operation without asking.
The rest beyond HRT and feminizing operations is no worse than any cis girl goes through.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QFu8SD4sqE
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>have to design magazine cover for school exercise
>title of the magazine has to be your name
>>
>>7868921
For me it would be a fashion Magazine.
>>
i missed my bus :(
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>>7868909
>no choice
Well that's fucked, God speed in your endeavors.

Since I need to sleep, and y'all keep posting music videos, I got one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu5xfnUz7c0

Take care y'all, Good luck doing what you do.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KLruiHP8U8
I was this way. Never cry or show any emotions again. Just give them the fake ones they want to see.

>>7868927
*hugs* How long until the next one?
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>>7868927
Hug =(
>>
>>7868932
like 5 more mins but im gonna be late now
if i am late then im gonna skip class because arriving into class late makes me anxious
>>
>>7868941
No. Go to class
>>
>>7868941
Go to class anyways. you can do it. Just quietly sit in the first seat you can.
>>
>>7868942
>>7868943
>>7868941
get your books out of your bag before entering so you can access them without fumbling in your bag.
>>
school is for foolz
>>
where do I find cute boyshorts?
>>
>>7868948
It is a way to get ahead for those that don't have other opportunities.
>>
>>7868943
its too scary
>>
>>7868951
You can do it. You have a right to be in that class.
>>
>>7868951
go to class or you'll wind up dumb
>>
>>7868951
Nobody is perfect and on time all the time. We all have our little failures.
>>
>>7868951
Build up a little self confidence, go to class and take your well deserved place there.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn4g28fisz0
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evxEOXkxRIA
>>
>>7868949
H&M has some
>>
>>7868975
I'll check there
thankyou
>>
>>7868979
Qt
>>
Suicide is better than transition in the majority of cases
>>
>>7868980
exhibitionist ;)
>>
>>7868982
better how
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some super buff handsome guy at work said i had a pretty name
>>
>>7869000
suck his dick
>>
>>7869000
that'd make me blush
>>
>>7869002
idk where he went
>>7869003
i told him thats kinda gay in a boy voice and it made him all flustered
>>
>>7868987
Well. I would wager killing myself now is better than false hope and utter humiliation
>>
>>7869008
don't forget the constant pain of dysphoria
>>
>>7869000
It was me. I was lying.
>>
>>7869011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfB1VdNWtEU
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>>7869013
mirin those gains fampai
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>>7869011
>>
rare trip sighted
>>
>>7869000
are you going to get married?
>>
In a court case, heard at the Castellania in 1774 during the Order of St. John in Malta, 17-year-old Rosa Mifsud from Luqa, later described in the British Medical Journal as a pseudo-hermaphrodite, petitioned for a change in sex classification from female.[36][37] Two clinicians were appointed by the court to perform an examination. They found that "the male sex is the dominant one".[37] The examiners were the Physician-in-Chief and a senior surgeon, both working at the Sacra Infermeria.[37] The Grandmaster himself who took the final decision for Mifsud to wear only men clothes from then on.[36]
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>>7869032
the world is filled with sadness
>>
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Kill me
>>
>>7869043
im sorry but i cant
>>
>>7869036
Why, he got what he wanted.
>>
>>7869032
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas(ine)_Hall
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>>7869043
>>7869043
Amy is for headpats
not for killing
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>>7869043
I can help you with that.
>>
are u doing okay?
>>
>>7869062
bad chara!
bad!
no killing other trips!
sit in the corner!
>>
>>7869055
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christiane_V%C3%B6lling
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>>7869060
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>>7869085
>>
>bf used to text me right around now
>no texts
Ahhhhh i didn't want us to be over. Why why why why are men fucking fuckers aahhhhh
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John Money, a pediatric clinical psychologist in the new "Psychohormonal Research Unit" at Hopkins and his partners, John and Joan Hampson, analyzed these assignments and reassignments in an attempt to learn the timing and sources of gender identity. In most of these patients, gender identity seemed to follow the sex of assignment and sex of rearing more closely than it did genes or hormones. This apparent primacy of social learning over biology became part of the intellectual underpinning of the feminist movement of the 1960s. In its application to children with intersex conditions, this thesis that sex was a many-faceted social construction changed the management of ambiguous genitalia from determination of the baby's real sex (by checking gonads or chromosomes) to determination of what sex should be assigned.
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>>7869094
find someone better
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>>7869094
*HUGS*
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>>7869096
How? And i still love him. One major thing that pisses me off about him is that he can't go an hour without smoking concentrate pot
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>>7869072
TRY AND STOP ME NIGGER
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So how many months into hrt until I'm allowed to give up and kill myself?
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>>7869100
ethnic cleansing when?
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>>7869098
he is just self medicating against his own dysphoria
never date a chaser
they are only ever fucking trannies because they want to be a girl and project that feeling sexually
find a nice boy, a decent boy who doesnt care that you're a tranny

this was your first boyfriend
it didnt work out and they rarely ever do
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I get so sad and anxious when I look in the mirror. I always see the same monster. I'm unsatisfied wit her myself and I wish I could be grateful. I am such a piece of crap and I hate repeating what every other fucking tranny here says every day. I wish we could just be satisfied with being males. It make sure no sense to be on this goose chase and it's fucking shameful
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>>7869103
36
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>>7869100
if you keep talking back like this then you wont get any pudding!
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>>7869110
yay
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>>7869103
72
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>>7869107
can confirm as chaser
this is the next best thing though
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>>7869106
I wish, hopefully soon.

>>7869111
I do enjoy some pudding, but i'm not convinced my man.
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>>7869098
>he can't go an hour without smoking concentrate pot
He's hiding from something big...run away...
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GOOd night
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>>7869123
I dont think well have to wait long for ww3
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>>7869110
>2.5 years to go
Fuck. I guess I don't have anything else to do.

>>7869120
Yeah no. Maybe if things start to look really up at 36 months.
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>>7869098
And that's not a blaring, loud alarm to you? Has suicide ever came up? How many times has he thought about it seriously?
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i feel like writing my girlname down to practice writing it on documents later and also to reaffirm it for myself
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>>7869098
Find someone else silly. My hot neighbor will never fuck me silly but there are always other men =)
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>>7869123
>tfw she's bored of you now
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>>7869126
I'm going to kill SO many fucking niggers.
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>>7869138
I know many people I would kill
Id be doing the world a favor really
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>>7869123
>i'm not convinced my man.
I am your mother! Just you wait until your father gets home and puts you over his knee!
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;___;
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>>7869137
>tfw she is weaker than you.

>>7869142
I don't really care about that.

>>7869147
My father let my brother rape me for a year straight. Kinda funny when you think about it
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>>7869161
just ethnic cleansing
fair enough
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>>7869161
>My father let my brother rape me for a year straight
hot
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>>7869164
More selfish than that.
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>>7869129
Hes kinda suicidal
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>>7869161
i dont think i could possibly be weaker than you in any sense that you meant that
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>>7869172
you're dating a repressed trans girl
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>>7869167
desu Im worried to ask
what is it
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>>7869172
>Some suicidal dudebro who is into somewhat unpassing trannies
>depressun beard and a drug crutch
That doesn't sound like anything familiar, huh?
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>>7869181
Maybe hes gonna come out to Kayla!!
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>>7869165
Kinda was huh.

>>7869176
You're not stronger by any means.

>>7869179
Never-mind.
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>>7869190
we haven't seen enough of each other to determine that little one
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>>7869177
I will kill myself if he came out
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>>7869197
I'm taking an educated guess.
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>>7869189
Dis gonna be gud
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>>7869200
Why?
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S A D G I R L S
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>>7869200
How to scar someone for life 101
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>>7869218
Because he could pass easy, he is shorter than me, has no scars, and a tiny head shape perfect for passing. Id die if someone who was my bf ended up prettier than me
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>>7869231
>he is shorter than me

XD
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>>7869233
manlets, when will they ever learn
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>>7869234
Manlets should be forced to transition
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>>7869235
glad i did it voluntarily
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>>7869231
>He could pass easy
Could he? How thicc is he?
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>>7869235
you are lucky I have to go to work, otherwise I'd fight you right now
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>>7869235
>>7869237
Heh same
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>>7869239
I gotta go to work too soon
I'll think of you when I'm reaching the top shelf
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>>7869244
Fags are cute and affectionate though. And usually have less toxic masculinity.

Sometimes I think I should just be gay so I could date a sweet boy like that.
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>>7869231
you should forcefem your bf
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>>7869244
Well he had a monogamous relationship with a guy for six years before he met me.
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>>7869246
He is ultra masculine though, into mma, lifting... oh shit he's me pre transition. He even listens to Justin beiber
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>>7869250
>He even listens to Justin beiber
>He
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>>7869242
oh yeh, i'm almost as tall in heeled shoes
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I almost liked a post from a fb meme page with this image

heck ;~;
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>>7869252
Just think of how much taller I am when I put on heels
It's gr8
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He does freak out though when i take my hrt and he tries to kiss me and i tell him i have estrogen in my mouth, so he prolly aint trans
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>>7869259
Maybe he wants to be a qt transbian with you =)
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>>7869259
He's afraid he'll like it
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Hi I'm an honorary female and you can tell I'm a girl from the way I type
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>>7869259
your bf should transition
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>>7869264
Are you upset about that still?
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>>7869249
There's good masculinity too. That's why it needed the adjective. The sportsmanship; the friendly competitiveness, loyalty.
The uh... I'm sure I can think of more things.
None of those being male exclusive obviously.
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>>7869269
Umm a little yeah
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>>7869264
>honorary female
>the people who make such fools of themselves that everyone around them pities them and treats them how they want to be treated
>the ones who have to surround themselves with people who are willing to walk on egg shells around them so as to not upset them

Is 6 am too early to drink?
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>>7869273
Can't change how people gender you based on your interaction.
I mean, apart from not posting on a tranny general, but that would be too practical of a solution.
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>>7869276
Never too early

>>7869278
I should probably leave Yeah
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sad.
Why does everyone hate us?
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>>7869289
i wish i knew :(
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help me!
I want to buy makeup from the store in the big street. But I am very very shy and 100% in boymode so I don't think I can. How do I find the courage to buy makeup and what excuse can I use.
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>>7869287
I mean, if it actually triggers you that much when people gender you female I really don't know why you post here.

Sorry if I triggered you. I can't change how I gender people though. Most people would man up a little if they wanted people to gender them male.
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>>7869294
get someone to give you a black eye and tell them you want to hide it
and maybe also give your lashes a little volume while you're at it
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>>7869294
Are you confident you can match your skin or do you have to actually talk to anyone?

If you just need the courage to buy it, you can take in a piece of really scirbbly paper and seem lost about what to get. That buys you time to stand there and look. That way it looks like you're buying for someone else.

If you need it matched and this is one of those stores with the make up ladies just find a nice lady and look at the things near her. She'll ask if you need any help. Tell her the types of products you're looking for. When she points them out and asks about tone needed say you need her to match it. It's at this point you can admit it's for you. That breaks the tension and it'll make it seem more fun. She's not going to scare off a customer. Bonus points if she applies it for you so you can see how it looks.
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>>7869295
I think you just want to see him as a girl 'cause you're into force fem degeneracy
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>>7869311
No, it's the same reason people keep assuming you're a girl.
You just don't understand nonverbal social cues
>>
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>>7869311
>>7869313
I should add that I'm not actually into force fem degeneracy, and if you understood nuance you would be able to tell this.
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>>7869313
how do you come off as either gender through text tho
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>nonverbal
>on 4chan
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>>7869295
No its not that it triggers me it's just a little surprising that you still think that.
I thought I kind of explained myself a bit better than that.
I guess that just gets overwritten though

I don't want to man up. Or woman up.
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>>7869320
its all about the emoji use ^_^
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>>7869320
Word choice. Frequency. What grammar rules you decide to ignore. Females tend to use more emoticons also.
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>>7869301
it's one of those big stores with the makeup ladies and I don't know what tone to buy
scaary
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>>7869301
>>7869338
also if I admit it's for me
why would a cis 18 yo """male""" buy makeup?
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>>7869346
Just say it's a gift, though I don't think anyone working there will care.
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>>7869330
uwu :3c
>>7869331
but you're looking at letters on a computer screen, and unless those letters happen to spell out "I'm X gender" you can't accurately make out whether or not the person is male or female
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>>7869338
You don't have a rational reason to be scared, but I understand. Both scenarios still freak me out even thoguh I've gotten through both.

At worst you're going to make her day more interesting. I don't know how it works in your big store but at mine the makeup lady rings you up and everything so if you can block out all the strangers who aren't going to give two shits about some fag getting make up.

>>7869346
Because you're effeminate and want to try it
Because you like to crossdress and make up helps
Because it seems fun
Because you're super gay yo
Because you're just super curious
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>>7869331
I doubt any of that is even remotely true
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Fuuuuck I keep idly pulling at my own hair probably because stress ;_;
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ok
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The first suicide has happened among my mtf friends. it can only go downhill from here.
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>>7869363
>I'm in the beginning stages of becoming a female permanently. I'm wanting to start dressing up in public. Does anyone have any advice on what to wear to look more feminine?

You can tell this person is older by their word choices. Why can't you believe you can also tell a gender by word choices? Obviously context is everything though. The words used to respond to someone as well.

Being more formal in text kind of makes it harder though. It's the informal stuff that makes it lean more one way or the other.
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>>7869327
I think it's triggering considering we had the conversation about this like more than 12 hours ago. In the meantime I went to bed, didn't think about it, woke up, and then those were the first words you entered the thread with.

I'm trying to change the pronouns I use but I think you need to realize no amount of explanation will speed that process up. It's subconscious. Gendering isn't a conscious thing.

Also, how could you woman up more? Don't you have long hair, wear girl's clothes and wear makeup? Not meaning this to be pointed and I'm sorry if it comes across that way.

>>7869320
Word choice, adjective and adverb use, active vs. passive voice. It's not obvious but it is there.
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>>7869367
It was nice of your friend to go first; that's the hardest one.

But seriously, that's fucked up. Words on a screen don't mean much, but I hope you try to spend some extra time with people that make you feel better. Especially if they knew your friend personally as well.
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>>7869368
Of course you can through context, but you didn't make that point.
>It's the informal stuff that makes it lean more one way or the other.
This I can agree with since you can put more character in casual chatting.

But in general on imageboards/forums and whatnot I find there's no difference in how men and women type.
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>>7869351
>but you're looking at letters on a computer screen, and unless those letters happen to spell out "I'm X gender" you can't accurately make out whether or not the person is male or female
this is only true if you have autism, otherwise you can make a reasonable guess based on how males vs females talk about things

it's not foolproof, but y'know
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>>7869380
>But in general on imageboards/forums and whatnot I find there's no difference in how men and women type.
I wonder if part of that is "board culture"? There's expectations in place about how you discuss things.
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>>7869387
>>7869387
>>7869387
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>>7869109
iktf

>>7869367
that sucks
so many of my friends are mentally ill and stuff I'm just sorta waiting for it :/
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