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>>5679245
i acidentally saved over mine, and i just noticed it says im a massive faggot on the template i got
which is pretty accurate

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>>5679189
litterily just googled "4chan template"

>>5679385
thx lad, btw, it also says "im an imcredibly massive faggot" on this one

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>>5679189
fellow danish here

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r8 my shit taste

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retoasting from ded thread because I'm always fucking here

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I'm not really interesting....

>>5679189
Who is that porn actress in yar pic?

People giving themselves more then 2 pips of intelligence angers me so I never make because I seethe with rage

>>5679710
>gregorian/orthodox chant
WOW good taste anon, v patrician. much ascetic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUohUrWlJeE

>>5679625
>1915 Empire of China
huh

>>5679822
Same, even though I gave myself above average intelligence. I just rate it on my ability to comprehend, explain, and discuss things in comparison to how others are able to do so. Then again this is just my verbal IQ, not sure how I fair with visual-spacial stuff, since I don't want to pay money to take an official MENSA test.

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Posted in the other thread, might as well post in this one too.

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>>5679822

>implying I'm not actually smarter than you

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>tfw had to think hard about hobbies

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>>5679971
>assigned sex

>>5680049

It's a more accurate term.

>>5680076
>sex is an arbitrary label given when you are born with no relevance to genitalia or DNA structure

>>5680105

1) You can't draw any conclusions from the external appearance of someone's genitalia (see: people with CAIS).
2) I've never had a karyotype done, so while it's likely I have XY sex chromosomes, I don't think anyone actually knows for sure.
3) We determine someone's apparent sex in different ways depending on context, first and primarily by secondary sex characteristics.
4) Genitals are real and exist, obviously, but the labeling and grouping of people based on their genitalia is arbitrary. Which isn't to say that it isn't ever useful or that it isn't approximately correct, but in the context of trans people it doesn't work very well.

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Rate my shit m9

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>>5680172
>You can't draw any conclusions from the external appearance of someone's genitalia (see: people with CAIS).
In other words: let's use this extremely fringe fragment of the population to excuse throwing a very reliable method of sexual identification out the window.

A...are you actually retarded?

>>5680190

We "threw out" Newtonian mechanics in favor of quantum mechanics and general relativity despite classical mechanics being incredibly useful and by and large correct in the context of our everyday lives. Saying something is useful and that something is an approximation that is not always correct and needs revision in the face of evidence are not in any way contradictory.

>>5680172

>>5679792
Can someone answer me? I need to fap to her

>>5680255

It's OP in the future, obviously.

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>>5680255
sorry pal, i just found the pic on a google search

>>5680172
>1) You can't draw any conclusions from the external appearance of someone's genitalia (see: people with CAIS).
Like >>5680190 said, this is a rare occurrence. People's genitalia are determined by the chromosomes in 99% of cases (exact percentage may vary)
>2) I've never had a karyotype done, so while it's likely I have XY sex chromosomes, I don't think anyone actually knows for sure.
That doesn't mean that your sex was assigned at a random guess,
>3) We determine someone's apparent sex in different ways depending on context, first and primarily by secondary sex characteristics.
And then by karyotype of the gender-determining chromosomes. Whether or not you have had one yourself they are still valid ways of determining someone's sex.
>4) Genitals are real and exist, obviously, but the labeling and grouping of people based on their genitalia is arbitrary. Which isn't to say that it isn't ever useful or that it isn't approximately correct, but in the context of trans people it doesn't work very well.
Sex is basically defined by what sexual organs and functions you have. Penis, testes, vagina, ovaries, uterus etc. While it's true that some people have differences in this, these are not the norm and to try and invalidate this method of defining sexes because of what are essentially genetic defects is just silly.
Also, in the case of trans people, sex and gender are two different things. What you identify as does not affect your biological sex.

I've probably missed something as it's late but that should be everything.

>>5679189
what the fuck does mtf mean?

>>5679971
>queer trans

The fuck you are

>>5679474
Who pees on you at your worst?

>>5680313

>What you identify as does not affect your biological sex.

Yeah, but taking sex hormones does. Anyway, you still haven't really given me a reason why the evidence I provided doesn't show that sex determination based on genital inspection isn't a flawed hypothesis that's at best a good approximation. Why is it that people who appeal to science are so quick to say that evidence to the contrary doesn't matter? I'll never understand this.

>>5680360
Does the Pope shits inawoods?

>>5680362
op thats a woman

>>5680340
im brazilian??

>>5680322
>>5680322
male to famelçe

>>5680340

The fuck I'm queer and trans? What??

>>5680386
>male to female.
Jesus why can't people just deal with the gender they're born with?

>>5680418

Because I didn't want to. If that bothers you then that's your issue, I'm way happier with my gender than I used to be.

>>5679625
Your tastes are at the level of knowing that quality exists but failing to have any decent taste.

>>5680418
>dislike your appearance
>you change it to make you comfortable

>you dislike your shitty taste in clothing
>you change it to make you comfortable

etc

>>5679710
I still hate/wanna fug you

>>5679767
This entire post is exactly why I don't date/befriend women
On the plus side you are a quintessential women and absolutely horrible

>>5680430
That's the same as saying "I don't like being white so I decide I'm black now"
I don't have anything wrong with gays, but pretending you're a woman when you're born a male, is just delusional

>>5680397

You're not smarter than me.

>>5680466
pretending youre into the same sex when your body is made to have sex with the opposite sex is delusional
why cant homos just deal with fucking women

>>5679946
>top tier hobbies
>horrible music
>In Bruges was good rest is shit
>bleh tv shows
>pleb books
>okay vidya

>>5680445
Ok, "changing" genders is A LOT different than changing a t-shirt.

But I suppose I'll give trans people credit for sticking with their "new" gender. Unlike those genderfluid fucks who have a different gender for every day of the week

>>5680470

I do research at one of the leading theoretical institutions in the world.

>>5680480

Sorry, *theoretical physics.

>>5680474
those fags are just hipster tumblr trash trying to be cool or trannies in denial

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>>5680208
>We "threw out" Newtonian mechanics in favor of quantum mechanics and general relativity
No, we didn't. That's not how it works.

>>5680492

Newtonian mechanics are an excellent approximation and very, very useful, but ultimately fail at the far reaches of scale. Similarly, a system of binary sex is a pretty good approximation with medical utility, but there are obvious flaws in the system given certain conditions that make it an incomplete description of human bodies.

>>5680491
I hear you but how is that considered cool?

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>>5680450
so u wanna... hatefug :DDD

>>5680503
Every map is an approximation. If it wasn't it wouldn't be useful.
Every description is false in some capacity.
You don't start talking about general relativity when you're talking about the physics of basketball.
Likewise, unless you specifically are intersex then there is no reason for you to go Captain Autismo and start talking "assigned male".
If that is the case, fine, but otherwise you're a gigantic tumblr faggot.

>>5680535

I've gone through puberty twice. Are you seriously trying to tell me that this is how the human body normally functions?

>>5680542
Normal is also an approximation.
I'm missing at least three organs from my body that a normal person should have but I generally consider myself normal. I'd also generally consider you a man.

>>5680531
You actually seem interesting. I kind of want to get to know you. But from a distance.

>>5680557

Do those organs you're missing have a direct influence on your body's sexed characteristics?

>I'd also generally consider you a man.

So aside from being wrong and arguing poorly, now you're just trying to be rude and insulting. But good try, dude, real convincing.

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>>5680567
>Do those organs you're missing have a direct influence on your body's sexed characteristics?
Actually yes but that's beside the point

>now you're just trying to be rude and insulting
nigger what?

>But good try, dude, real convincing
have you never lived outside of Tumblr and/or Portland?

>>5680578

Still waiting on that argument over here. Also, tell me how your missing organs affect your sexed characteristics, I'm curious.

>>5680592
>Still waiting on that argument over here
What argument? You posed a question and then got offended. You have to pose an argument for me respond with an argument.

>>5680592
>Also, tell me how your missing organs affect your sexed characteristics
cancer. young. had to remove shit that makes hormones during puberty. Cut puberty short. Never developed.
Didn't really effect anything too much but still technically did.

>>5680535
Why do you keep arguing this?

The physics of a basketball obey the Newtonian mechanics which are models of models of quantum behavior. The Newtonian mechanics themselves don't exist. An easy example of this would be water; there is no Newtonian mechanic that water follows when it evaporates into water vapor. That is 100% a quantum mechanic - "temperature" is a misleading reading, the same way that gender is. What the temperature of something means is that the AKE (average kinetic energy) is a certain reading. Within that object, there could be a 100 degree water molecule and a 0 degree water molecule, and then the AKE would be 50 degrees. This is really simplified and if you want to know more you'll have to look it up.

Anyway, so the sun puts energy into the water. Rather than boiling the way a pot of water would, the water heats up individual molecules into their gaseous state and they transform into water vapor, which condenses into clouds later on when it comes into contact with particulate matter in the atmosphere and clumps into big fluffy clouds.

Sure, you can argue that boiling a pot of water to nothing is a Newtonian mechanic. But leaving a glass of water out on the counter is pure quantum mechanics, since the water absorbs energy from its surroundings to evaporate a little of its water at a time until it's all gone.

But it's perfectly okay to talk about Newtonian physics when you're discussing what happens to a glass of water, right?

>>5680566
>You actually seem interesting
I think those digits are pretty interesting anon

You're probably correct in your initial assertions tho, I'm not a very polarizing person but I will say that I attract very few people who want to constantly be around me.

>>5680644
>I attract very few people who want to constantly be around me
thats probably why I hate you

>>5680628

I've restated my argument multiple times already (see >>5680503, >>5680362, >>5680208, >>5680172). Also, if you weren't particularly affected by having whatever glands you had removed, then that's clearly not comparable to hormone replacement therapy. Like I can't find any data on male breast size, but my breasts, which aren't particularly big, are probably many standard deviations above the male average. My body fat distribution resembles an average woman of my height/weight, and a number of the secondary sex characteristics from the first time I went through puberty have either been reversed (my testes no longer produce sperm nor do they produce testosterone in any significant quantity) or removed (I blasted all the hair off my face with a laser). My body is pretty obviously not "generally male".

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"hi, i'm new. welcome me or fy :))"

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>>5680648
you know what's nifty, we both got dubs, fancy that.

But really it's just because I'm quiet and people who actually tolerate me say I'm "hard to read", probably autism or something from too much internet idunno.

>>5680657
>I've restated my argument multiple times already
The only one that was directed to me I responded to. I'm not going to go respond to your arguments with other people.

>Also, if you weren't particularly affected by having whatever glands you had removed, then that's clearly not comparable to hormone replacement therapy
Never claimed it did why would you think that's what I implied? But actually it did very much fucked my body up entirely.

>Like I can't find any data on male breast size, but my breasts, which aren't particularly big, are probably many standard deviations above the male average
Same here. I had to get a breast reduction surgery because my actual breast tissue was way too big for a dude.

>My body is pretty obviously not "generally male"
It sounds like most of that was done through artificial hormone replacement and not as a result of your physical birth.

>>5680696

>It sounds like most of that was done through artificial hormone replacement and not as a result of your physical birth.

So?

>>5680663
>you know what's nifty, we both got dubs
And it's my favorite number pair. They add to get 10 and then multiply to get 24 which I've always really liked for some reason.

>I'm quiet and people who actually tolerate me say I'm "hard to read", probably autism
Probably. You do seem hard to read.

>>5680712
Just because you mutilated your body doesn't make you less of a biological male.

There's tons of freaky body modification shit people have done but that doesn't make them any less biologically human.

>>5680727

But my body is demonstrably dissimilar to the average "biological male" body, so it's actually significantly "less male".

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>>5680715
>You do seem hard to read.
well right now I'm just a couple of posts on a Swahili shuffleboard discussion forum, hardly an indication of my person.

>>5680739
You modified your body so that some sex characteristics are no longer similar to most males. Still makes you a biological male.
Are people who get their dicks shot off in war no longer men?

All this reminds me of that one person who looked super fucked up and tried to make herself look like a cat.

>>5680753

No single characteristic makes someone a man or a woman. But since you're alluding to it, if/when I get bottom surgery, I'll end up having a) no penis, b) no testes, and c) an anatomically accurate vagina/vulva, constructed from the same tissue that makes up a typical vagina (genitalia differ in structure, not the tissue that they're made of, because they differentiate from the same protogenitals in utero). So by my count, no penis, no testes, no uterus, no ovaries, but yes vagina is closer to the average "biological female" than the average "biological male".

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>>5680745
Maybe. I still feel like I have somewhat of a read on you.

>>5680766
>So by my count, no penis, no testes, no uterus, no ovaries, but yes vagina is closer to the average "biological female" than the average "biological male".
>this level of denial
You're still just a mutilated male. Nothing will change your little x.

>>5680785

You're not actually making a counterargument here, you realize that, right? Feel free to save face and duck out of this chat at any point, I won't blame you for not thinking things through enough because most people don't.

And by the way, chromosomes don't actually manifest meaningfully in your phenotype, proteins do, and my body clearly understands how to process and respond to estrogen to develop female sex characteristics. So that's not a very convincing argument either.

>>5680813
>You're not actually making a counterargument here, you realize that, right
You haven't shown any reason why fucking up your genitals makes you less of a man. Making your face look like a cat doesn't make you any less human.

>proteins do, and my body clearly understands how to process and respond to estrogen to develop female sex characteristics
Everyone has estrogen and test in their bodies. That doesn't make you special

>>5680881

>You haven't shown any reason why fucking up your genitals makes you less of a man.

>if/when I get bottom surgery, I'll end up having a) no penis, b) no testes, and c) an anatomically accurate vagina/vulva, constructed from the same tissue that makes up a typical vagina (genitalia differ in structure, not the tissue that they're made of, because they differentiate from the same protogenitals in utero). (>>5680766)

>Everyone has estrogen and test in their bodies. That doesn't make you special

>Like I can't find any data on male breast size, but my breasts, which aren't particularly big, are probably many standard deviations above the male average. (>>5680657)

The distinction between male and female is by and large statistical in nature. We both have T and E, but I have estrogen levels that are typical of the average female. So no, it doesn't make me special, it makes me thoroughly average.

>>5680913
>but I have estrogen levels that are typical of the average female
Because you put it there. Not because your genetics was coded to make that protein.

All of this is just autusim.

>>5681066

>Because you put it there. Not because your genetics was coded to make that protein.

Explain why this matters. Seriously, I'll wait.

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>>5679189
i fucked up a bit

>>5681075
>Explain why this matters
Nothing matters if you're autistic enough

It matters because your gametes are male and your entire biological makeup was coded for a biological male. You still have to mark "m" on the sex category on your doctor's forms, you're still at risk for prostate cancer, every cell in your body is still marked with the instructions to make a perfectly healthy male.

You are still a human male no matter what. Not a wolf, not a cloud, not a women. You are a biological male human.

>>5680360
the immigrants that comes to denma... sry refugees that come to Denmark when they get more rights and privilegies than citizens born and raised in the country.

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>>5681102
>undertale

>>5681102
>wolf on wallstreet
>hunipop
>undertale
>don't play much vidya desu
>in the movie section
Are you retarded on purpose?

>>5681202
fucked it up a bit while trying to resize the flag it some how ended up there. I didnt notice until i uploaded it.
>even says i fucked it up abit

>>5681358
>>even says i fucked it up abit
>abit
>doesn't even know the name of her favorite movie

>>5681418
how would i not know the name of my favorite movies if i just put the names of my favorite movies? the only really fuck up is me accidentally adding my favorite vidya in the movie section?
>wolf on wallstreet
>howls moving castle
>wolf children
>lilo and stitch

>>5681443
It's The Wolf of Wall Street

>>5680255

Amy Anderssen

>>5680440
That description quite spot-on even though I have no idea which part of it gave you the hint. I have adhd therefore am unable to finish most of the works I started.

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>>5679971
points for yojimbo
>>5680660
edgy

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>>5681930
gundam is good

>>5681930

>points for yojimbo

I like Murakami!

>>5681973
fav parts? i like the original series & 8th ms team the best.
>>5681980
haven't read his newest work but he's nice!

>>5682051
Mine too!
Thunderbolt is looking good

>>5680445
I'm still wearing the onesie that the hospital gave me. A true person doesn't just change the clothes they're born with.

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It could be worse.

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Reposting since old thread died.
>inb4 3dgy hipster teen desu.

Overly-long (dy/dx) list below:

>>5679189
Not hugely selective with music and movies, but +1 for being anti-recycled-mainstream-garbage.

>>5679474
>Science
Yessssss...

>>5679625
>Linguistics.
>Likes experimental and foreign music.
Taste isn't that bad desu.

>>5679710
>Hobbies: Caffeine.
Don't we all?

>>5679767
All taste generally thumbs up, but:
>Movies: anything gay or trans related.
>Gay fiction books.

>>5679946
Generally cannot see any faults. Not too familiar with bands.
>Also, His Dark Materials = yes.

>>5679971
Good hobbies and nice to see more /lgbtSTEM/.

>>5679973
>Not reading fiction.
But why?

>>5680126
>Old jazz = YES!
>New pop = No...
Other than that, all taste pretty good desu.

>>5680179
That's an... interesting mix of tastes you have there...
Nice to see some LBP; I thought that game almost died.

>>5680660
You seem very cynical; I could imagine us getting along.

>>5681102
>Content with sexuality
>Still questioning
Pick one.
No comments about other stuff; pretty standard.

>>5681380
Your future looks like it would make my eyes set on fire and cause me to projectile vomit.
Then again:
>Likes rock.
>Likes the utter mess of noise that is Shostakovitch music.
>>Actually knows who Shostakovitch is.
>Horror AND Sci-fi movies!
Taste is on point for the most part.

>>5681930
Not sure what's going on with your music taste there. The rest is ok.

>>5682425
>Outdoor activities.
>Food.
>Fair mix of movies and TV shows.
>Reads enough to forget what has been read.
It was all great, and then
>Doesn't listen to music...

Apologies if my critical side and/or misanthropy are showing.

>>5680418
Because, that is not the gender we were born with and we hate our natural gender
or at least I do

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>>5682864
Have you seen the Room?

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ello

>>5682864

BAY THE DEBNTS

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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>>5679189
>>5679474
>>5679767
>>5679973
>>5680179
>>5681102
>>5681930
>>5682537
>>5683048
9 pages of incredibly massive faggots

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ok

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>>5683048
I can respect anyone who wants to be more like lord dio

>>5682550
>plebs reacting to plebs

>>5679971
>Streetlight Manifesto
>Rick and Morty

G O O D T A S T E
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>>5682550

I'm actually involved with an organization called oSTEM that's for LGBTQ STEM people, it's really cool.

>>5683558

thx i try

>>5683558
Streetlight Manifesto is shit ska for mainstream pretenders.

>>5683583

Do you like The A-OKs? That's my other favorite ska band.

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>>5683583
this
>>5683558
Rick and Morty is shit too. It's lazy, scatological humor with no effort or real value besides "look how silly we got in a sound booth", unlikable characters, and sense an air of unearned self-importance and random poorly written drama. There are no visual gags, there's nothing really decent thats done with the animation or visuals. It's a shitty improve duo who got people to draw pictures over their terrible skits.

>>5679413
Based on the board, it's true.

>>5683671

Uh, say what you will about the show's humor, but if you can't recognize the quality of the show's animation in its own rights then I'm suspicious of if you even like animation at all.

>>5683577
That sounds awesome; if nothing else, it would at least open up some viable, long-term dating options. Unfortunately, since the vast majority of STEM students at my school are ultra-homophobic religious (mainly Muslim) types, they'd probably never do this in my area.

>tfw getting straight A*s (yes, with the *) and top grades in whole school, and on the outside it seems that nothing could be better for me.
>tfw get hit on by girls that want their soon-to-be doctor husbando lined up and ready before we depart for uni literally every day.
>tfw no nerdy bf with whom I can rejoice at good grades and do maths homework.
It's a very mixed feel...

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>>5679189
I can't draw for shit, so im not gonna try senpai

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>>5679189

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>>5679189
rate me faggots

>>5680179
S A D B O Y S
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>>5683746
Edgy af dude

>>5683793
ikr

>>5683689
The animation's quality is fine but nothing interesting is done with it. I'm not even sure how you could fuck up animation in the modern age when everything is just shipped off to China. All of the lines are the same weight and there's about 10 lines for each character, there's nothing really fluid or dynamic they're doing, it looks like it was made with a dozen of vectors in flash. The style certainly irks me but I can ignore that. All of that is forgivable for a shitty comedy show but when the comedy is bad then you don't have anything. The animation simply serves as a vehicle for the shitty humor and has no value beyond that.

>>5682550
>You seem very cynical; I could imagine us getting along.

Yeah we probably would by your comments. That's totally me.

>>5681930
>edgy

ye prob who knows hoom?

>>5683859

I just don't understand how you could dislike the animation of Rick and Morty. Like, even if you don't particularly like the art style or character design, the production value is through the roof, the animation is varied and super fluid, the backgrounds are incredibly detailed and there's always a ton going on in frame, that there are no visual gags is just outright false, and the characters are so incredibly expressive in their body language and facial expressions. I've heard a lot of things about Rick and Morty, but that the animation isn't very good is a first.

>>5683922
>the animation is varied and super fluid
Are you fucking kidding me? EVERYTHING stays the same between the frames. They draw the characters once or twice then translate the shapes while copying and pasting their mouth frames. There is NOTHING fluid in their movements. It is all 1D translations

>the backgrounds are incredibly detailed and there's always a ton going on in frame
cluttered backgrounds, check. The thing about backgrounds is that you only have to draw them a few times compared to animation. In traditional animation you wouldn't put a lot of thought into the backgrounds because it was the characters that were important

>that there are no visual gags is just outright false
It is 100% true. Watch an episode of R&M and count the number of actual visual gags. The writers aren't animators and it shows. They put all their jokes into the script and have no idea how to execute proper visual humor

> and the characters are so incredibly expressive in their body language and facial expressions
THEY DON'T FUCKING MOVE! They don't scale, they don't change. There is no value in their expression or body language

Take a look at something like Ed Ed n Eddy and compare it to R&M. You can tell that one is actually drawn frame by frame and one is using flash vectors and tweens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lD7zvg1reM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EepTHJSteDY
Two completely random long clips. You can see in R&M that the movement is always isolated to a few sections and they are almost always simply rotated or translate. That or it's copied and pasted facial animations. They almost always face the same direction in the same stance for incredibly long amounts of time. When they do change stances it's incredibly fast. It clicks between different movements not flows. It's clear that it isn't frame by frame drawn. The faces don't bulge or change. The body, the arms, nothing changes nothing is dynamic or fluid in the movements

post is too long

>>5684057
This is shit that people would argue about at /co/ who cares.

>>5684130
I've never been to /co/ but I care

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this is the most successfull thread ive ever made

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I'm pretty dull, I know.

>>5682983
Of course, that's a classic.

>>5684781
>turkey
ouch

>>5683747

>those colours
you killed my eyes/10

>>5683748
Why did he have to become a true meme? Now he barely uploads and it's always good but generic. Leany went mainstream :(

>>5683747
> Mien Kampf


Wut

>>5682864

cons:
>music
>books

pros:
>music
>quantum mechanics
nice

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>>5684604
mfw when almost everyones posts got replys except mind

>>5684843
So, hows your sex life?

>>5683741
you're a casual guy in collage?

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>>5685263
are you the canada or ameridude without replies anon?
ill give you a sweet reply

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R80 me m80s

>>5685322
>hobbies
nice

>music
gut

>movies
shit with sparkles

>tv
k...

>books
uhh

good luck

>>5685254
>music
Huh?

>>5685268
About as dead and soulless as Tommy Wiseau's laugh.

>>5685306
Im the Canadian

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>>5685537
oh anon, its so cute how bad ur ms paint skills are
>>5685537
there you go sempai

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>>5682425
God tier movie taste, pleb tier tv taste.

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>>5683083
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>5683185
> Nintendo

My man

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Hello

>>5685648
top tier

>>5685638
the whole execution of this just screams hipster imo
like, the type of guy i wouldnt wanna spend a second with
everything about you seems boring

>>5685578
I'm basically technologically illiterite tbvh.

>>5685694
Yeah exactly, that's why I'm alone in the first place.

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>>5680660
>>5685648
woah there are more hues in here than usual

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>>5685638
Wait, people listion to classical music unironically?

>>5685734
Hobbies: 8/10
Music: 5/10
Movies: 6.5/10
TV: 7.5/10
Books: No idea
Vidya: 10/10 Fuck video games

>>5685737
Yes, most modern music is roughly as complicated as music that was being made in the 14th century.
If you don't know any better than it won't bother you which is fine but once you learn, it's hard to find anything to appreciate about non-art music

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im broke because im seventeen lol

>>5685802
>non-art music
what
all music is art, wether you like it or not

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>>5684858

>>5685835
Well I could say Renaissance, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, 19th century, 20th century, and Contemporary music.
'art-music' is just a technical way to refer to those things.
Doesn't imply anything bad about other forms of music.

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>>5685865
the term itself is retarded
and god you sound like a pretentious autistic redditor, get out of my thread REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
no offence

>>5685889
I'm just explaining the term which you could've fucking googled you autistic cunt, you just haven't heard of it before.

It's okay, you're a bit slow, I understand.

>>5685910
for real tho, i dont get how you can fap your heart out to classical music forever
ofcourse its good, as i mentioned, i pretty much like all music
the composer you mentioned are delightfull
but heres my beef with classic
its not new
its not unique
its basically always the same (also reasons i kinda dislike rock nowadays)
compared to forever evolving electronic music for example that explore new sounds and beats all the time

maybe its just me, i cant listen to the same song 100 times

>>5685958
Well this is the same argument people on my side tend to use.
Nowadays, to me all modern music sounds the same, roughly the same way that all Marvel and Disney movies seem the same.
It's the same chord progressions, it's unappealing sounds; it isn't beautiful or elegant, it's artistically unsatisfying.
The repertoire of classical music is incredibly vast and it takes years to even become remotely 'well-listened', I guarantee you you'd be able to find more there than in whatever the latest swans album may be (or whatever it is you listen to)

>>5685958
>tfw have over 400 full listens for rachmaninoff's third piano concerto
>that's 300 hours of the same song
you have a point

>>5686006
Then listen to more songs you dip

>>5686011
it is one of several hundred

>>5686023
Well then listen to the other ones more often. I get into a phase where I only listen to a few songs at a time but after they grow old I throw them in a giant playlist of others like it and only return to it once in a while

>>5685996
marvel and didney movies do actually seem the same
they all follow the same structure

ofcourse i dislike generic pop music that has the same sound, but i think classic music does this a lot too
you pretty much have the same instruments used again and again
>omg he sweeped that violin in a totally different way in this kickass track
theres nothing genious about it imo

let me go back to the rock, "slayer" for example
they have some kickass very unique tracks, but as you keep listening, it just sounds so monotone and they stick too much to their "style"

heres my current favourite song, its pretty unique: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRyMoyRPrr8

>>5686053
i have the same library of classical music i've been expanding on since i was 11 or so

nine years later i still add/subtract things, but argerich's rach 3 is a great performance i've listened to over 400 times

>>5686058
1. a. the instruments argument could be applied to any form of music
b. orchestral instrumentation is incredibly complex and all combinations (when there's over 50 options) create new and unique feelings
c. there's symphonic literature, choral, piano, stress on individual instruments, string groups, etc.

2. artistry is primarily present in "art-music"
a. "art-music in all forms can come to symbolize more complex things than most music is capable of
b. Prokofiev's 1st violin concerto (to me) very clearly symbolizes a storm and the picture is very detailed and beautiful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic-EIknhVHM (skip to about 8:30 and listen for maybe 3 minutes for the most clear portions [notice at ~9:55 how it appears to be the calm after the storm, rainbows, etc])
c. "art-music" is capable of having a more complex "plot" (ergo fuller story) and can travel a longer path giving it closer resemblance to literature which is the highest art form

I listened to your song and it wasn't particularly bad. I might even listen to it again but it's not satisfying on a deeper level, even the lyrics don't seem overly dense to me.
Sure it's catchy and easy to listen to, but it's not amazing by any means

>>5685527
I've heard good and bad music of that type also I couldn't find anything else to write in cons. I'd put movies there but you watch bad films knowingly and that's not exactly bad.
You generally seem like a bit of a nice person.

>>5686090
I know that feel. Theres a recording (which recently [to my dismay] got taken off youtube) of Daniil Trifonov playing liszt's transcendental etudes which I can't stop listening to

>>5686168
This is perhaps the most well constructed and interesting post /lgbt/ has ever seen. don't see what its doing here though lol

>>5686197
the one i sent you? ;P

>>5686207
The one you sent me? No? I stumbled upon it when I was on a random video spree

>>5686220
no it's just that i met someone off this board a few days ago and we were talking about classical and i sent her the file copy i saved of that recording before it was removed. i just assumed it was you because you knew it was removed, had the file, and only recently got it.

hell of a coincidence if it's not, though

>>5686232
Haha, no I'm not that person. I'm usually on /lit/ if anywhere online (which is less and less frequent these days). I just wanted to stop by and see if this board was shit or not

>>5686242
well which one is your favorite then? i like his rendition of eroica a lot but for the 11th i default to richter

>>5686253
The Feux Follets, Visions, and Chasse-Neige were my favorites.

>>5686267
From Daniil that is. Claudio Arrau's #12 is absolute shit imho

>>5686267
oh i can agree with the chasse neige, he plays it so violently at times

really though i think we can agree that trifonov is an underrated pianist, and he's rated very highly

>>5686323
Well he got picked up by Deutsche Grammophon so I think he's pretty unanimously agreed as among the greatest living

he has a good 50 years ahead of him...i'm so glad.

people just place horowitz and shit perennially above him and i don't always agree

>>5686340
>tfw no qt3.14 legendary russian piano virtuoso bf

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validate me

>>5686357
oh god i would let that man do unspeakable thing to me

>>5686365
*even though he looks incredibly ugly

>>5686364
no

>>5686364
shit-tier taste. you seem like you might be cute though

>>5686395
Yeah he really is unfortunately. There's very few attractive, good, male classical musicians.
Maybe like Paul Kropfitsch haha

>>5686639
stephen hough came to my school a few weeks ago. he doesn't look that bad considering his age.

>>5686649
lmao seriously? he looks dopey as fuck

>>5686655
he had a bad smile but he's cute in front of a piano

>>5686667
I got a public masterclass from Alexander Hanna recently, that was certainly hard in every sense of the word

>>5686680
oh wow.

>>5686702
ikr, he's beautiful isn't he? other than that I dont know of many. Young maxim vengerov was kinda cute

>>5682550
I just don't have time to sit around listening to music and if I'm doing something I like to be 100% focused.
>>5685608
Then what's some good stuff to watch on tv?

>>5684781
ISTANBUL
S
T
A
N
B
U
L

>>5685734
gotta admit i didn't expect anyone else to be.

>>5684781
>Turks
not even once

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>>5683185
>gender identity: tumblr

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this took me longer than i want to admit, hello

>>5686364
this sounds so german idk why

>>5679189
I've actually thought about getting butt implants, to be honest. Not breast implants - those are very obvious and I'm basically happy with my boobs but my butt is awfully flat and I feel like it makes me feel to flat to look feminine. so some subtle butt implants might work very nicely.

>>5687056
Holy fuck I swear I'm your skype friend. Either that or all Dutch people are alike.

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Bored and have nothing else to do. Disregard shit drawing skills.

>>5687253
could be ^^ you can always leave your skype and i'll check

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>>5687361
>divine comedy

>>5687368
If you are who I think you are then I'm routing my traffic through your Laptop. Does that sound like you?

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>>5687389
I love it. Specially the wood of suicides. It's just such a perfect work of art that everything has another half and nothing is misplaced. It's the pinnacle of literature in my opinion. Every single time I open Inferno I can't resist, but admire what perfection is like.

>>5687408
no sir, it doesn't

>>5687458
Then all Dutch people are literally the same

>>5687428
Everything about you screams of narcissism and ego. You are nowhere near as smart as you try to seem.

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>>5687473
All Dutch people do have the super gigantic mouths that look like they are perfectly capable of swallowing you. As a person of Persian descent with tiny mouth you're making me feel awfully inadequate about my size.

>>5687510
original dutch posterboy here, can confirm that we do. it's how we grow so tall.
fun fact: i was born Frisian which, within the netherlands, are the tallest people on average

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>>5687490
Why would you say that? I just enjoy the book with all my heart because I'm an imaginative person and I can picture the scenes and that's why I love Dante's allegories. I'm not narcissistic or egotistic and I know my place on this world. Funny that you are the one calling me that when you are so quick to paint a grim picture of me just because you read 2 posts. I could assume lots of things about you, but I'm not an asshole that judges people like you did to me.

>>5687539
"Judge not lest ye be judged"
I'm fine with you judging me. I've judged myself enough that no new verdict could surprise me.

You've put yourself at the second highest rating in intelligence and you don't understand how someone could think you're egotistical. You seem to enjoy things because they're supposed to be smart things and that boosts your ego. To even begin to understand the divine comedy you need to read a painstaking amount of mythology and theology and even then you have to go over the text with a fine tooth comb to grasp it. And you say it's one of your favorite books? I seriously doubt it. You like it because you think it would make you look good.

>>5687532
And you fucks never stop fucking talking about how tall you are! You all never shut up about it.

>>5687643
Acceptable
Though do I take from your picture that you had dreds?

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>>5687608
>You've put yourself at the second highest rating in intelligence and you don't understand how someone could think you're egotistical

Did it based on what I already published and what I'm working on.I accomplished quite a lot for my age and I'm proud of it.

>You seem to enjoy things because they're supposed to be smart things and that boosts your ego

I can't enjoy things for what they are? I literally said I enjoy Star Wars on the same chart that I said The Divine Comedy is one of my favourite books.

>To even begin to understand the divine comedy you need to read a painstaking amount of mythology and theology and even then you have to go over the text with a fine tooth comb to grasp it.

I grew up reading mythology, I had to study Aquinas and the Church's stoics until I couldn't even hear their names, since I study in a catholic university and I have a hardon for Italian medieval history, so believe me, I get the book. It's complexity and many layers is one of the reasons I like it. It's like a puzzle I assembled with time and effort and it's rewarding.

>You like it because you think it would make you look good.

I like it because of Dante's descriptions are among the most colourful ones ever written and for the aesthetic perfection of the book. I also like Star War's expanded universe books and I don't care what people think about.
tl;dr

Piss off.

>>5687661
>that are

Fix'd.

>>5687660
no...I was just trying to make it look gross

>>5687661
>18
>publish author
>near max intellect
>actually read any of what you said you did
Sure buddy, sure

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>>5687687
>I can't accomplish things, so no one can

I published articles and got into university when I turned 17. And yes, I read that because I had to and I enjoyed it, so I fell deeper into the rabbit hole.

>>5687361
where do you live?

>>5687698
Okay hon

>>5687711
Somewhere in the Southern Cone. All the anons are 2far away. Just fuck my shit up.

>>5679710
>caffeine
>gregorian/orthodox chant
>One Hundred Years of Solitude
why you so perfect, tho?

>>5680491
This is true af though.

I used to use the word genderfluid when it was just starting to get usage. Like 2011/12.
Confused tranny in denial after all. Hey, we gotta cross some bridges to figure things out.

I'm cool with the "genderfluid" types that seem to be actually trans and simply really androgynous. The ones who are happy being their birth sex and are just trying labels on like a fad, or are a tomboy girl or fem male but still ok with being said gender (girl or guy), and somehow think their androgynous look makes them another gender, annoy me.

>>5686194
D'aaaw thanks, anon.

>>5688339
How do you live with yourself?

>>5681124
>your gametes are male
No they aren't, I don't have gametes.
>your entire biological makeup was coded for a biological male
My biological makeup was coded to produce testosterone and androgens, which code for maleness. The testosterone prompting maleness is no longer present.

>You still have to mark "m" on the sex category on your doctor's forms
Nope.


>you're still at risk for prostate cancer
A risk so low that its comparable to the amount of people who are intersex women and develop prostate cancer, because estrogen massively affects and deactivates the prostate's cancer production abilities because it affects your biological sex.


>every cell in your body is still marked with the instructions to make a perfectly healthy male.
Every cell is marked with the instructions to make androgens that make males.

What about XY males whose genes make them infertile? They literally are useless penis havers. They are just as "healthily male" as an XX person with a penis is "healthily male", they both have cocks and dont make sperm.

Genetics aren't some voodoo magic you dumb shit, sex steroids control fucking everything.

>>5683746
VLAANDEREN EERST

>>5685818
TRANSBIAN IN THE RAF WHAHAHAHAHHAHAA

>>5682983
I have been living under a cultural rock for a while and I wasn't even aware this movie existed until I looked it up because of this thread. Thank you, based anon. I'm so excited to watch this.

>>5686770
>Then what's some good stuff to watch on tv?

South Park, Rick and Morty, Archer, Always sunny in philadelphia

>>5688789
It's amazing desu

>>5679710
>firearms, FPS's, homo

my nigga
where you at?

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From the last Thread

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bumpin'

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This is me.

>>5693856
>sexuality
>Queer
what is that supposed to mean

>>5688878
midwest, it's terrible.

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>>5693745
if you haven't already, you should read the tokyo ghoul manga. it's much better than the anime.
also i love how i could tell this was you without looking at the flag kek.

>>5689814
oh wow you're really cool!
10/10
congratulations~

>>5685734
>>5687361
>>5681930
cool people tbqh familam

>>5694411
>>5694423

lets complain about the sun and kill arabs

>>5693932
they like to fuck people

>>5694427
sounds fun

>>5694411
good tastes

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This thread is nuclear

>>5694398
I have, I just haven't finished it yet. I like how season 2 is different in the anime. But yeah the manga is superior.
>recognising me
Guess you're not the only one doing that 'cause I can recognise you from a mile away too :^)

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i updated it

>>5694844
nice dubs

u hate all of you

>>5699128
*i

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>>5698996

>>5680179
>Southern rap

Keep it trill f a m

>>5700671
GO GO GO GO GO GO
GALO SENGEN!

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>>5688339
would watch hockey with and/or fuq

>>5698996
volaría a España para tapear y Netflix y relajarnos

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>>5700997
te hais ganado mi corazón

>>5701026
tonces, mándame mensaje si quieras, querida!

throwaway email: [email protected]

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Got myself a nice cute bf now.

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im going to actually look at some of these and rate 1-10 and post mine hoping someone actually responds.

>>5679189
2/10 yikes

>>5679474
4/10

>>5679625
5/10

>>5679767
0/10 this has to be a joke

>>5680179
>suicideboys
suicide yourself

okay i can't do this anymore sorry

>>5680190
Thank you /k/ I will love you forever

>>5681102
Mercury is that you?

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>>5701967
You sure seem attractive

>>5679792
amy anderssen, biscum helps the fags and trannies once again

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im veru pleb

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>>5679189
>Wanting to be a complete bimbo

>>5679625
>Crossdressing
Same desu

>>5680660
>Life is hell. I'm here to make sure it is just like that for everyone.
You seem like a super villain, awesome/10.

>>5682425
Solid movies.

>>5683741
What is this a survey for ants?

>>5685322
>Cascadia
Muh nigga

>>5685648
>Helmet and elbow pads
WhatAreYouFuckingGay.webm

>>5682864
tell me about /d/, person who posted this. Specifically, your interactions on /d/

>>5704148
>wanting to be a complete bimbo
that was mostly for comedic purposes, im pretty fucking alternative, wouldnt mind fake titties tho

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>>5685648
Where are you from, anon? Another br here. Mind exchanging skype/kik or anything of the sort?

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>>5703262
Thanks man.

>>5703752
>regreting
My top hobby.

>>5687056
>I like long movies
Dune 1984 Extended Edition.

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>>5704456
Fake tits aren't nearly as bad as people make them out to be.

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"White People"

>>5706705
they almost always look pretty stupid lol

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>>5693856
Step aside gay male.

>>5701967
I like your art skills.

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>>5707022
Not always. Go to a good surgeon.

>>5707061
wow huge transformation, looks good. those boobs look too big for her body though, idk maybe I'm just seeing things, but they look awkward to me.

>>5687361
>Poe over Kafka
>Dosto over Tolstoy
>reading dante
>10/10 int
please kill yourself turbopleb tryhard

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>>5707157
>>5687361
hold up there's more.
>cites failure of memory 3 times in short submission
>consistently uses redundant descriptors
>possibly Nietzsche's worst work who's an entry-tier philosopher in the first place
>not great but forgivable music
>shit movies and suicide-tier tv shows
also, the drawing is possibly a euphemism for obese neckbeard

rereading this whole thing I realize this is definitely bait
8/10, thoroughly rustled my jimmies

>>5707100
Thanks. Eh, I always had a certain look in mind when I started my transition so when I didn't achieve it "naturally" I didn't hesitate to go under the knife. No ragrets.

>>5707256
Oh shit that's you? lol sorry for being so outspoken. You're still a cutie, I just have a thing for flat girls. Maybe I'm weird. Glad you're confident.

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>>5701967
>mother mother

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Forgot to save the one I made from last thread

>>5679474
You turn into a nigger at your worst?

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i'm always so late to these threads

>>5707965
>Those pleb tier tastes

>>5683746
Is this bait? I don't understand desu.

>>5694423
>pat the bunny
Yeeee boy

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Might aswell post again

>>5707061
>>5707256
I have trouble buying these pics. Can I know what size and type of implants you got? For research (No, really, I'm researching implants for me).

>>5679973
>52 stars

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Hey hey hey

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Do many of you faggots play rouge likes, the real ones that are turn based.

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this still alive? yung patrician britbong fag here

>>5708474
My existence has been acknowledged

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>>5708920
>wealth 8/10
>wants to be 'well financially"

you want to go full Trump or something anon?