Please and thank you.
love the natural, and I'd be interested in seeing your eyes with make up. very pretty.
recentish pic. Didn't like this hair color after like 2 days.
yeah my jaw is pretty bad, i'll look into things like FFS
well, it's either that or feeling like you want to die.
so we take hormones
>providing you pass, you could be improving your life
tricking people into thinking you are a female isnt an improvement, atleast in my book. what if you met a straight guy, really likes you, vice versa. you get in bed, he sees that weiner and rats out, what do you do? its more of a scary risk, than an improvement
>tricking people into thinking you are a female
Contextual. Interacting with everyday people you're just as female as the next when you pass. Not really a trick.
It's a big no-no to trick straight people, as it often ends in death by cis male.
Though many straight males find they're attracted to the secondary features of women (breasts, ass, lips, eyes, hair, scent, etc.). Vagina isn't all you need, ugly cis women know that much
>vagina isnt all you need
i assume you are a guy, have you ever liked a girl? if yes, nature fucking made it for a purpose for the + to be attracted to the -. its even fair that it ends in death, hell, if i dated a girl, and saw a dickle, id be really fucking pissed off.
Of course, my girlfriend's sitting next to me as I type this.
It's not fair for death to be the outcome, but I agree it also wasn't fair to trick someone all the way to bed.
Besides, you're not really dating every girl you meet with the intention of impregnating them are you?
If you kill someone because they're trans and you're so afraid of dick, you deserve to spend the rest of your life getting anally raped in prison by giant black guys. And you probably will.
yea this is about as natural as it gets.
when you say work and effort, i assume you are talking about makeup? if so im working on it, but didnt want it to obscure the features for this, you know?
Aren't these threads fucking retarded?
'Hey I'm trans, now tell me if I look trans or not'
Wouldn't you be better off posting in /soc/ and if no one says 'You look like a dude' then you're probably on your way.
Ask a bitter hon who rarely wears make up anything.
If only I started at 12 maybe I could have passed because even after starting at 19 and being on them for almost five years I look like a dude still.
I know, I am a trump fag too. Or at least since rand dropped out.
I have the strong urge to whore myself out on the internet.
Well your nose is probably your worst feature. Chin is fine. Lips aren't very attractive in my book, but that's not gonna matter on the passing.
Since your face isn't too masculine, you might have a shot, but you might end up odd looking.
That sounds like work. Wish it was easier. NEETs, eh?
odd looking sounds kinda scary, how do you mean, if you can be more specific?
thank you for the feedback though i really appreciate it and can easily agree with you on the nose and lips part, especially now that you point it out
Well you won't be ugly, but you might end up having a special face that isn't common for girls. With that nose and your eyes. You could just end up looking uncommon. But I can see you passing. Also that clefted chin is gonna get softer on HRT.
Your chin is really telling. FFS might be advised for that specifially. Other than that you have good features. I'm not very racist, but since I'm not in any part black, I might not be able to judge well. I can imagine black people being able to tell, mainly because of the chin. But to me you certainly pass good enough. Also groom those eyebrows.
>tfw people want my opinion
well i am saving up for ffs, which could hopefully fix some of it, there are things ive hated forever id want to done.
id ask if you had any plausible references as to what i might look like, but i feel that would be way too much to ask.
also i cant help but be skeptical of one of my friends who said i reminded her of pic related. hugboxing and living a lie is pretty sad.
No, I can see that. Her eyes and nose are really similar. You have different lips and jaw. I dunno. There is this website where you upload pictures of yourself and they give you lookalikes. Someone here has to have it.
if you are thinking of pictriev,com, then it thinks im a little kid and the pic my friend told me i look like is a man.
also lips and jaw would be something id want to fixed by ffs, could be because i have the facial profile of a parenthesis...
It's not too far off with that. You have that youthful look. But yeah, I imagine you're a little older.
Be careful with surgery on lips, you can never know how that ends up. Jaw is fairly safe in comparison I'd say
yea id imagine the lips would change by moving the chin a bit more forward, i wouldnt do it at the same time though, the lips arent that important to me luckily
i also tried another look alike thing just now, it keeps telling me im a cute asian... if only
also im 23 so just a bit past the kid age
yea i would have to say i do.
also it seems asians have a more androgynous features to start of with, at least from what ive seen and compared to us up north of you. id give you a 'pass' too though
Get on finasteride, rinse your hair out every day but do not shampoo every day, and take "Clinicure Botanical Thinning Hair Solutions - energizing nutri-complex". I know these things are usually a crock of shit, but Finasteride didn't help me at all until I started taking that, and my hairline is dramatically better after I've been on it three months.
You have a chance, but start learning makeup now and pluck your eyebrows. It's unlikely that you'll ever be hot, but you can pass with that face shape and your lips will help a great deal. You won't be forever arone if you just put in the requisite effort.
it's been awhile... will i ever have a chance at passing? almost a year in now, and feeling down.
Getting electrolysis soon hopefully
I'm basically just trying to present andro atm
Yeah... don't know what I expected.
I'm so gullible. They actually tricked me into thinking I might be able to be happy.
Sorry for wasting your time.
it's not wasted
anyway if you're trutrans you're just banking on technology to save your ass 30 years down the line
you can take blockers or something if ti makes you feel better, but you will never pass with that face. not even with south korean ffs.
Don't listen to that other anon, they're just being a cunt. Not gonna lie, it won't come easy, but I can definitely see you passing as a plain looking chick after a year or two on hrt. The brow area will be your biggest obstacle. You probably think the same about your nose, but I don't think it will be as big of a concern. From the front, your face is very rounded, so that's a big plus. Your mouth already looks a little feminine, so that's good, too. Get on them skittles and do what you can in the meantime and I totally think you'll be able to pass after hormones have had their time. Good luck anon! Qt eyes by the way.
I can think of a way you'd be much cuter and way more passable
been on hormones for a while, still closeted af
I'm too tall for heels and I just got my first pair and I'm kinda glad, I'll probably never end up wearing them to anywhere.
I don't have work, and it's hard to find an apprenticeship.
I can't drive.
My voice is shit.
also body shot
shoulders as wide as a 10 wheeler.
to me you've always been a cutie
It's no big deal as long as you don't post the same picture over and over.
No pass. Besides what others have said, you need to work on hair care.
Nearly passing. Eyebrows should be your first priority right now.
Can't tell. Would need to see in person.
No pass. Remove earrings, switch glasses, take testosterone.
Are you getting FFS?
Pass. I like your makeup.
Yes Im getting FFS, these are the xrays I took ffor my upcoming consultation with Dr Deschamps-Braly.
Here's my actual face. I think I pass for people over 35, or black people. But I'm fairly certain people my age or younger can tell fairly quickly, doesnt help that Im really tall too.
What procedures are you having done and how much are you paying? What did you think of his before/afters? Young people like <25 in particular.
I'd love to go to him but I'm not gonna have $100k aud for a while eh.
Wondering if my eyebrows pass? I got them thinned a couple of weeks ago and have just been plucking them to keep them in the same shape, but I've been thinking I should thin them further. What do you all think?
if you have a low voice then you could pass for a young teen boy maybe. You look kinda like one of my cis guy friends except he has longer hair.
Your earning is girly if you still want to wear one then go for more masculine ones like plain black ones or fake gauges or something.
You could use a little makeup on your eyebrows to make them darker brown (that could help you look more masculine).
Hmmm....you could work out and try gain some musel for something so you don't look so...delicate?
That's all I can think of atm. Also you could have a more masculine smile/expression...does that make s sense? I don't know how to explain it.
That's all I can think of that could help with passing :/ sorry
you're pretty cute though, and T should help a lot, it's just that you have baby face >:
I havent seen his before and after, Ill only see them at his office during consultation. None to be found online.
I am thinking:
-fat graft in the cheek
Do I pass? Don't hate on my makeup plz, it's gyaru makeup.
we just want you to post a pic of your buttocks
I knew you'd look better if you just covered your eyebrows.
I can't even pass with an instagram filter.
Your eyebrows should begin where your nostrils do
glasses are too big and feminine
guys dont wear earrings especially not some weird celtic knotted shit
a guy wearing earrings means hes a queer fucking faggot
that hand position is fucking gay as shit too
honestly being a guy is about trying not to act like a faggot 90% of the time
at best, you look like some 11 year old boy whos mentally still 7 years old
im not trying to be mean. Im just using the same filter I throw on myself.
So people dont think im some sissy faggot.
pic related: how it feels to see that weird body language in a guy
i just started trying to train my voice, i know something is off, but i cant put a finger on it. if anyone could give me a few pointers on this id really appreciate it
Stop posting yourself all over reddit every day you cunt it's incredibly obvious youre just fishing for compliments, people distraught by their appearance dont fucking dye their hair blue
People wasting there life on 4chan asking if they pass or not if stead of seeking professional help