I utterly despise the fictional lesbian ships on mainstream tv as a whole. They are fucking cringey as fuck, pic related is probably the closest thing to "good" out of all of them.
Good job on all the lesbian representation on tv but why leave it at pandering to nymphomaniac shippers and randomly pairing up characters that seemingly form bonds offscreen instead of writing some actually interesting relationships that make sense? Even that movie where the blue haired tumblrbait gets fingerfucked for like 2 hours is more interesting than fucking Bubbline, Korrasami, that treasure troll from The 100 and all the shitfus in Black Sails.
almost all relationships in shows are terrible
There are very few exceptions and they are basically something that shows that the characters actually care about each other as people not just "there in love"
I agree with that too, there are less lgbt relationships on tv to choose from but wouldn't you think that would give the writers incentive to make them stand out instead of be even more bland and less gratifying to watch than your run of the mill sitcom crap?
How can I be human cancer when I'm spreading joy and happiness and you're just being a depressed, negative shit on 4chan about things that honestly shouldn't matter to you if you don't like them?
You're the one who's mad here, remember?
The fact it was made by a tumblrina who actively sought to make it as saturated with genderqueer/ cultural marxist politics as possible is what makes me shy away from it and also mourn the futures of the children it leaves its impression upon. I do think the show is entertaining, but that also worries me because of how appealing it can be.
>hurr don't oppress me with ur negative vibes XDDD
You got me, I'm just a pessimistic pooped pants and deluded idiots like you are god's gift to the world. That's why you came in my thread to tell me how i'm a bad person for taking away your blankie.
I said cultural marxist. Marxism itself is the predominant theory within the sociological perspective of conflict theory which states society operates via groups with a lot of power oppressing those with less power, in other words, there's no functionality, all is constant struggle. Cultural Marxism is a movement which seeks to overturn all norms and traditions of western society because it perceives the entirety of western civ as oppressive to not only the lower class who traditionally was focused upon by Marx, but now the addition of individuals who are non-gender conforming, or minorities of some variety. The show achieves this by eliminating and constantly flipping gender norms, featuring abnormal characters with underrepresented qualities (like being a midget, gay, lesbian, etc.). The end result is a cast that doesn't reflect normal people, SJWs circlejerk around it just to signal their "enlightened virtue" of appreciating something so profoundly queer and "empowered".
It's often thought cultural marxism is just a tool by classical marxists to destabilize western civ to make it more susceptible to socialism and a more globalist system of government.
Yea, the larger picture is divide and conquer, but the methods the Romans used were different. Like I said, cultural marxism is but a means to an end. The people being manipulated by it can't see that though. At least the non-Romans could see the legions moving through their lands and clearly see what's happening. CM is much more insidious and discreet, it's a long process that's gone on for over a century.
>I wish there were more LGBT representation in kids shows. It's important that we help LGBT youth to understand that there's nothing wrong with them.
>THIS SJW CRAP IS TOO GAY! WHY ARE WE SHOWING KIDS GAY RELATIONSHIPS?!
I'm no SJW who calls people "toxic" or complains about internalised homophobia, but it would be nice if you could all be consistent for once. You either want LGBT representation in the media or you don't.
At the very least SU can be tasteful about it, and only has a couple of episodes with LGBT issues at centre stage.
I have never heard of this before. Just did a lookup.
Unfortunately, this would be heavily censored and probably never even released in the UK, for reasons unknown.
>Gay marriage 2 years before USA
>Can't be too gay on kids TV
/pol/ is pretty pozzed desu, but sorry to trigger you.
No one here, certainly not I, has clamored for LGBT representation in the media. I didn't ask for this, but I'm going to burn for it because I'm clumped in with you fucks who are so adamant about politicizing your sexualities or gender identities.
This is my major grievance here. There is no lesson for the most part, it's just "be tolerant and understanding, don't question anyone else's motives or rationality and don't think about the relationships depicted past a surface level shitlord"
Probably because UK has stronger laws against sexualising kids. Ruby and Saphire weren't censored because they were DAH LEZBOS. Nobody gives a shit about that. They were censored because they look like children and appeared to have an adult relationship. Neck kissing and implied further stuff as Stephen covered his eyes.
Yeah, yeah. And the little girl fucking the warrior man is actually a 1000 year old dragon.
Frankly, my opinion, it isn't a big deal and it's still silly to censor. I'm just sick of people trying to misrepresent the situation in favour of whining about lesbian relationships when it very obviously isn't the case.
Might just be the people my girlfriend follows on tumblr mind, but I very much doubt it is.
Am I the only one who hates the lesbian "stereotype"
>hipster or weeaboo cringe fashion
>either SJW style feminist or edgy "fuck the man" type of girl
>annoying smug voice
How does one meet not straight women who aren't SJWs.
By talking to bisexuals.
I kid. In all seriousness, you probably wont find them in 'lesbian spaces' as spaces like those attract the sort you want to avoid. It's hard to find the ones you want in these spaces because they either
1. Are scared off in the same way you are
2. Aren't as vocal as the people you want to avoid and thus are harder to pick out
That'd be my guess, though take it with a grain of salt. I'm a dude and avoid gay spaces for similar reasons.
It's a common anime trope to try and dissuade any outrage at what is essentially the sexualisation of a character that has the appearance of a child.
>It's ok if you're turned on by me, you silly otaku! I may look like a child but I'm actually older than you are! This isn't paedophilic at all!
Enjoy your steaming pile of shit.
ruby makes the best faces tbqh familia
i can hardly root for any lesbians/ships because theyre usually so forced and flat it leaves a bad taste in my mouth
garnet couldnt been done better but it beats out a lot of the other shit ive seen
I said cultural marxist. Marxism itself is the predominant theory within the sociological perspective of conflict theory which states society operates via groups with a lot of power oppressing those with less power
This is literally not what Marxism is you fucking braindead faggot, it's not about "groups of people", it's about economics. God I love when /pol/ retards try to define marxism when they've only read the intentionally oversimplified communist manifesto.
Drop your obsolete girls, watch fags being gay instead
I don't do fandoms kid. I would never say a show Tumblr liked was okay if I didn't mean it.
I really don't care if other people like what I like or not. I'm just saying, even if it's mediocre, it still has more realistic depictions of relationships in general than most things I've seen in the recent past.
And that makes guy on guy any less wholesome and perfect, how?
I always get pretty excited to see LGBT representation in media, but I have to wonder why creators go the "safe route" of using lesbians to soften the blow on the general audience.
For example, the neck kissing part in SU would have raised some eyebrows if it were two guys.
Do people just figure "eh, girls make out with eachother and trade bras all the time" or is it allowed just because the usual straight guys think it's hotter?
Because I can't even think of a good gay couple on TV besides lesbians.
That's not anyone's complaint here.
The most that I'm seeing is that it has attracted the worst type of fanbase and is politically motivated to an uncomfortable degree.
>somehow end up on tumblr
>SU fans literally going spastic if you don't tag anything with Jasper in it because she's super fucking triggering or something
>everyone is kin with Lapis but no one is allowed to be kin with Lapis around anyone else
>if you like Pearl, you're a shitty human being who enables abuse
>if you don't headcanon all of the gems as lesbian, you're homophobic clearly
>GARNET IS BLACK!!!! SHE IS BLACK!!!!
>Sonic OCs everywhere
This show is not good enough nor influential enough to be worth associating with this fucking fanbase.
This so much, all the lgbt "representation" I've been hearing about lately has all been nothing but lesbians and bi girls, thats all, the faggot from how to get away with murder and all the faggots from ryan murphy shows don't count they ate awful
I like AT over SU. It has its retarded episodes that are lacking like any show does. But I do love PB and Marci.
This so much desu senpai.
I appreciate that SU has the confidence to be open with its lesbians. AT's been alluding towards PB and Marcy for some time, but isn't really taking it anywhere.
Still, Ruby/Sapphire and Pearl's thirst for Rose can never beat the Bubbline. Marcy and PB are way more relatable and realistic than the gems.
I feel the same anon. Bubbline is the best. I wish they'd come out and say it but they're scared of loosing a fanbase. But if Korra can do, I don't get why CNN can't. Bubbline is a way better couple then KorraxAsami imo. Seemed like an asspull to me.
Stevens Universe is a giant piece of crap that you have to be retarded to like but in general I disagree with you - fictional lesbians are the only lesbians I really like. Because, in my experience, all IRL lesbians are horribly annoying, overweight, vegans, extreme feminists or, in the "best" case heavily involved in the frankly ridiculously incestuous lesbian community where everyone has slept with everyone else, multiple times.
Can't stand IRL lesbians but fictional ones can be adorable, amazing, awesome, cool, romantic and so on.
Thats just tumblr brand autism. It's not worth complaining about because the the same shit happens with any popular fandom - RWBY, Undertale and Attack on Titan are recent examples I've personally witnessed.
Because there would be absoulutely no way to put the genie back in the bottle on that one.
See, the entire show only keeps it's status quo going by making the lead character of finn a beta male who's thirsty for crazy gay bubble gum vagoo.
The moment they make her and the vampire lez into a couple, litterally every single thing that finn has done from that moment back will be put into the absolute worst light possible.
It will make her into a mean spirited manipulative bitch and marceline into a backstabbing skank.
They'd honestly have no choice but to semi write them out. And not because they're gay, but because they'd retroactively be horrible people and there is no way in in hell they'd be able to keep them in the series in any real capacity and keep the original(utterly shit but stable and that's all that matters to them)status quo.
So they'll continue to tease the yuri and keep finn as a punching bag with no emotional depth or needs.
There is your problem. Anime actually does lesbians right, since they don't do it solely to fill up a diversity in animation quota.