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>tfw mtfs who now transition before puberty or early into puberty probably look down on us mtfs who transitioned in their early 20s the way we look down on transitioners in their 40s
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>>5621183

It's OK, OP. Everyone has someone who looks down on them. Those childhood transitioners might look down on you, but women who were born female look down on them, and women who are attractive and popular look down on the rest of the regular women, and women who are wealthy look down on them, and women who are famous look down on the regular wealthy but non-famous women, etc.
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>>5621183

Which would you prefer, OP:

http://strawpoll.me/6660323
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Why would you look down on someone in their 40's. I am so damn cute.
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>>5621294
>old people
>cute
c'mon mate
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>>5621294

>40's

I'm so sorry, anon.
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>>5621183
Lynn, go to sleep
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>>5621303
I am cute for an old person.

>>5621307
Don't be sorry. It isn't so bad.
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>>5621294
>>5621311
>cute for an old person
Delusion is a disease and you're the vector
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>>5621311

>old person
>trying to be cute

This is why people don't like trannies
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>>5621329
>"Why is that man with norman bates eyes trying to steal my stroller? Somebody call 9/11!"
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>>5621329

What the fuck. He's not even trying, he's just a guy who dyed some of his hair blue and wore women's clothes. And how did he not understand how creepy everyone would find his picture and commentary here?
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>>5621342
he looks like a DC comics supervillain tbqh
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Then you finally realize, while being attractive is very important, making money is the real MVP in life. >Can live as a millionare hon who gives no fucks about anything and can live a more comfortable life than 90% of the people in the USA. Lots of money can buy happiness, friends.
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>>5621328
>>5621329

I think I am cute anyway and that is all that matters. It is all about confidence.
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Hon thread? Hon thread. Post your rare hons.
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True paragon of feminine beauty.
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>>5621351
That isn't even a trans person. You fail at bait.
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How could one resist such a seductive gaze?
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>>5621354
Isn't that they guy from SNL?
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>>5621354
>chris chan if he never turned out autistic
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A beautiful princess of progress.
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>>5621358
>joker: the college years
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"Just a night out with the girls."
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>>5621351

>Post your rare hons.
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ok this thread is officially making me feel horrible.
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>>5621375

Try Susan's Place, I here it's really positive.
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"Son, I'm your mom now."
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>>5621370
I mean, to be fair, they were probably ugly ass young guys too. Good looking 20 year old= Good looking 40 year old, assuming no weight gain, etc. While test didn't help those guys, they probably had no hope to begin with
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What I picture when someone says they look "cute".
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"What? Women can have strong features."
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>>5621401

Work it, grrrl.
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>>5621382
ha. I am there, but if you want to find the true hons there is a way better site that is the most cringe inducing place on earth. It is hon heaven.

I can't explain it. They talk to each other about masturbating to cure GID and shemale porn. some of these pics came from there.
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>>5621415

What site?
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>>5621415
>They talk to each other about masturbating to cure GID and shemale porn

Jesus fuck. I mean, not passing is one thing, but this is true hondom.
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A stunning transformation.
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>>5621430
http://pinkessence.com/

Even the name is hontastic.

>>5621439
I have really just tried to troll the place as I have become so grossed out there, but I fail. The asking me about shemale porn and telling me they wank to my pics just creeps me out.

One person there says they caught trans from a bee sting another says a car crash.
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>>5621461

>tfw you will never catch that bee who stung you with sissy venom so you can reverse engineer a cure for gender dysphoria
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>>5621471
I want to be mean to them, but they make me so sad for them, and they all tell me how passable I am. Even validation from hons feels good.
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>>5621307
dude im so psyched for my 40s. old people rock
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>>5621471
This is the site owner.

https://www.pinterest.com/kayenglish2001/ted-prince-became-chloe-prince/
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>>5621481
>allergic reaction to a bee sting
NO FUCKING WAY
NO NO NO FUCKING WAY

HE'S CITING THAT AS A PART OF WHY hE'S FUKCIING TRANS???!

i thought you were joking ;_;
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>>5621481

>tfw even hons can get beta provider bfs

There's literally no such thing as tfwnobf. Women have it so easy.
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>>5621183
I've known a few. They mostly don't. It's sincerely only the sheer paranoia of a few dumb self-hating idiots who should know better.
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>>5621493
I told you. Legit queen of the hons. The site is fucking amazing.
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>>5621497
No That wasn't her boyfriend. She has kinda failed at life and moved in with her ex wife and kids. It is so sad. I think she is going to detransition and do another 20 20 interview. It is serious. She is considered a trans activist.
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>>5621511
my god.
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>>5621520

>I think she is going to detransition and do another 20 20 interview. It is serious. She is considered a trans activist.

So is he going to speak out against gender transitioning and becoming an anti-trans activist?
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>>5621521
It is a train wreck I can't turn away from.
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>>5621525
I sure hope not, but when you are desperate to get paid to go on tv and speak anything is possible. I bet it is a high possibility. She is transition regret times ten. I have asked her directly if that is what she is planning and she won't say no.
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>>5621497
She doesn't look too awful, 2bh. I probably wouldn't clock her if I saw her in passing. Shit, she kind looks like my old boss.
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>>5621550
She spent 150k I would fucking hope so.
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>>5621554

>150k

Bee stings are expensive as fuck.
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>>5621560
They sure are. She dated another trans woman for awhile then that chick got a boyfriend and dumped her and she moved back home. Saddest story ever. She looks good but no guy will date her for some reason.
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>>5621554
why do these fucking hons have more cash than most of us will ever see?

unfair
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>>5621567
It might have something to do with the fact that she went on national TV and omg so trans'd all over the place.

Unfortunately for every straight transgirl out there, normal dudes aren't down to fuck someone with the same chromosomes as they do.
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>>5621575
she had a good job with the phone company, and her wife has a good job. She spent their kids college fun, her entire 401k. She talks about how they let their house go to shit and literally it started caving in.

A litany of spending your family into destitution.
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>>5621586
This entire post triggers me. Fucking god.
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>>5621586
what a cunt
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>>5621583
Maybe so. I am new so maybe I am too optimistic about my chances.
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>>5621183
>early into puberty
How young would that be, like 15?
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>>5621592
Me too. Me too.

>>5621593
That is harsh, but I know what you mean. Those poor kids. They have to go to school and face their friends in a small Ohio town. Dear lord. They never seem to smile in pics.
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I feel like the biggest problem with hons is that they're fat fucks

It's not necessarily the T damage, it's that huge fucking fat neck most of them have.

The fatness combined with the old age combined with being a tranny is just too much and creates a trainwreck of a person to look at. When you remove the fatness they're just ugly, not repulsive.
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>>5621583
The bitterness is palpable
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>>5621401
>reading this in mellow-ish manvoice
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>>5621183

>tfw you want to find an MtF that transitioned before puberty to be friends with so you can live through her vicariously
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>>5622353
At least you have nice peeps. Haven't seen that one before, looks rare.
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>>5622396

That was pretty common on /r9k/ before Pepe became more well-known.
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>>5622400
Now they're worth a lot more. Still think it's a good one.
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>>5621183
im 19 and still havent started on hormones. It got pushed back from january to april may time
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>>5621398
Courtney Act disagrees.
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>>5622418
Do it faggot or feel my hon rage.
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>>5622448
do what ?
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>>5621351
whats a hons? newfag to /lgbt/ here
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>>5622449
>>5622418
>still havent started on hormones
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>>5621480
No you aren't. I remember telling myself that too in my late teens and early 20's.
Old people don't rock. You don't want to be old. No one wants to be old. Least of all old people.
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>>5622454

Ugly, typically older delusional trans people. A lot of them try to recapture their lost youth by emulating young girls and end up coming of as mentally disturbed nutcases (see: >>5621294).

Typically gravitate towards sexualized clothing and tend to dress inappropriately for their age. A lot of them have huge egos that are continuously bolstered by other hons. They massively overestimate their attractiveness and social worth because they spend like 95% of their daily lives hug-boxing each other.

Also they usually transition later in life after leading successful male careers, often with wives and even children. Practically all of them have AGP.
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>>5621183
>mtfs who transitioned when they were 8-10 will look down on mtfs who transitioned when they were 13, 20+, 40+. Because they took T blockers before puberty even occured so not only do they look even more feminine compared to those who were 13 when they transitioned, but their voice are much much more passable since it never dropped.
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>>5621370
You spelt girls wrong, they spell it gurls
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>>5621601

Puberty starts at 10 since thats when T production in the body starts to slope up, but then it goes rapidly by 12-13.

So even at 12-13 the voice starts to deepen and by 15 its too late to have a natural feminine voice.

http://princess-chrysalis29.tumblr.com

She transitioned at 13 and looks perfectly like a cisgirl, but if you go to her youtube you'll notice that despite starting at 13. She still had to pratice her voice since it already deepended.


https://youtu.be/ez4FBi4It4Y
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>>5622554

Couldn't make it one minute through that video. Why must you hurt me like this?
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>>5622554
Why can't I go back in time and feed myself with female hormones? It is not fair.
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tfw turn 20 in june and just now decided I wanted to transition. tfw i had the chance at 5 years old. fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
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>>5622729
Life really sucks. You have to forgive yourself
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>>5622554

Pretty autistic video desu

[spoiler]super jelly tho[/spoiler]
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>>5622734
I can't. I have felt like shit ever since I denied wanting it at 5. It would have been the best time. Holy fuck. Why. Kill me please. I can only hope that at this age, if I don't talk and get surgery to alter my body a bit I can pass well.
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>>5622749
We are in the same boat except I had conversion therapy at 5 and now I am 40. Kid don't wast those 20 years. I love you.
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>>5622734

Not them, but I can't. I'm going to have to spend the rest of my life in a body that I loathe every second of every hour of every day. The pain is constant and sharp. This experience has soured me to the core.
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>>5622766
I know that feeling. I feel totally betrayed by my own body too. I was reading some stupid story about being in love and I got an erection. I just can't even.
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>>5622729
>tfw i had the chance at 5 years old.


Explain pls?


Because giving children, T blockers was only more acceptable only around early 2010s.

I wanna know the story about how you had the chance back when you were five.
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>>5622729
>>5622749

Shit, anon. What happened? Why did you turn it down?

>>5622749

That's even worse, anon. Did they catch you crossdressing or that you asked them if you could be a girl?
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>>5622795

>>5622802 is literally what happened. I had always wanted to be a girl, and felt immensely more comfortable acting like one in secret and online. I had been crossdressing to feel better around 5, and my mother caught me one day and asked if I wanted a sex change. If I wasn't so afraid of my family hating me and the social implications of a sex change, I would have jumped on it. She had me see a therapist for transgenders, and the therapist after a few months of talking to me said she could give me HRT. I refused and explained my fears, which of course she assured me were normal and all that but I just couldn't.
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>>5622809

So you just stopped going to the therapist after that? Don't feel too bad about it, anon. I was too scared and paranoid of being caught I never crossdressed, so you did better than I did in a way.
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>>5622824
I did, and I can't help but feel bad about it. My regret over the years was so bad that I tried killing myself so many times. I don't know why I failed every damn time either.
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>>5622833

You never got caught on the suicide attempts? Or your parents just thought being transgender wasn't your problem after you stopped going to the therapist?
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>>5622839
I either got caught or what I did just didn't work and I ended up going to the hospital. Parents have thought I wasn't transgender ever since, yeah.
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>>5622809
>She had me see a therapist for transgenders, and the therapist after a few months of talking to me said she could give me HRT.


Holy shit what bad luck :(

"Just give it more time to think" would of been bullshit for me since I never liked masculine features ever.

If I had the same chance I would of taken it right away.
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>>5622845

They must have thought there was some cause to your suicide attempts, though?
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>>5622860
Yeah they did. I admitted once why, but they spouted some nonsense that if I was really transgender the therapist would have helped me transition (even though I told them after I stopped going that I refused it). I closed up and just said I was being bullied at school.
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>>5622865

So why was it that you never went back? You never set up an appointment or you told your parents you didn't want to go? What age were you during your first suicide attempt?
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>>5622885
I never went back because I figured that if I was too scared to transition that I just shouldn't waste my parents' time and money just talking to a therapist until I worked up the courage. I was seven years old the first time I tried to kill myself. Was a really weird attempt too. Tried self-immolation and only got as far as getting gasoline on myself and ingesting some before my father found me and took me to the hospital thinking it was accidental.
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>>5622900

>I figured that if I was too scared to transition that I just shouldn't waste my parents' time and money just talking to a therapist until I worked up the courage

Whoa, I would have done the same thing. The weight of your choice must be really heavy, anon. My first thoughts of suicide were probably at 8 at the earliest. And those were just thoughts, so for someone to actually try it (especially burning to death), is crazy to me.
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>>5621183
>tfw height gained from puberty has helped immensely to get into the modeling industry
>tfw other trans models that start younger are shorter and thus less eligible for runway
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>>5625102
>tfw this person thinks being tall is a good thing
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>>5625485
It is for specific cases
Tfw short cis girls btfo at open castings
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just the cycle of life famalama
at least we're not the bottom of the totem pole
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>>5625102

Post body? When did you start HRT?
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Please tell me you love me
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>>5625661
20
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>>5625700
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>tfw turning 30 in a month
I mean thank fuck I started hormones at 22 and was already pretty fucking girly looking but goddamn this thread is making me depressed regardless
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i started in my early 20s, i think puberty was broken for me, i can't grow facial hair still
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>>5621363
lol that person is from reddit, they actually are autistic
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>>5625726


Are you still fucking remilia(literally in the ass)?
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>>5626074

lol that's soontobekate

She's always snarky and mean, and constantly posts shit in trollxchromosomes like she's "just one of the girls omg".

Shoo hon shoo
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>>5625916
I'm 24 and still a fat neckbeard, kill me.
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>>5626055
uh ok, but you don't pass all that well.
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>>5626140

that's boymode
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>>5626113
It would be funny to roast the cringy prolific asktg redditors but theres so many of them that I wouldn't be able to keep track of who is who
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>>5626149
Ok? I am talkin about the structure of your face.
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>>5626055
Really cute as a guy, sorta meh as a girl.
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>>5626157

Yeah, literally all of the regular posters are 25-30 year old angry transbian hons who think they pass and get completely butthurt if you ever even mention FFS.

>I'M A BEAUTIFUL FUCKING PRINCESS AND MY MONGOLOID FOREHEAD AND TINY SUNKEN EYES ARE GORGEOUS AND FEMININE FUCK YOU [ANGRY FROG NOISES]
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>>5626174
>sorta meh as a girl.


In order words she was competing against other men when she looked like a guy. But when she became a girl she was competing in the more prettier sex.
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>>5626265
No she just looks crap as a girl. :p

It's called putting in effort!
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>>5625916
I started at 21, is there hope for me? Are you a hon? Am I doomed to be a hon?
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>>5626199
Nail on the head. I wish I had bigger eyes and smaller forehead though. Thanks for making me feel bad :(
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>>5626199
That sounds like most of the regular mtf trips here haha.
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>>5626289
yeah, exactly.
girls have to "put in effort" to be cute because that's where the standard is. for boys, the standard is lower and it's easier to be considered attractive without doing anything extra
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>>5622590
Yeah seriously.
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>>5621183
>that feel when been on hormones for 1 year now
>started on my 18th birthday
>still don't pass
>try super hard, work endlessly on appearance
>still no luck
>kms
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>>5622554
Christ she's gorgeous
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>>5622554
Jesus, women with deep voices and girly speech patterns are way too hot. Guess I'm bi after all, kek. I'd just eagerly rip up that gold star for people like her. Probably is only into really manly men, though.
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>>5622554
>tfw I would never be as attractive even if I had started at 13. I was just destined to have really hideous bone structure.

I guess I would've been spared the facial hair and androgenic acne, but its not much of tradeoff.

Why even live if you can't be a cis tier qt?
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>>5621183
But the world looks at you the same.
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>>5627100
Please stop telling people you're trans. You're not, and it's reflecting badly on the people who can't actually help it.
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>>5627104

>Implying anyone, even other trannies, could clock a trans girl who spent their entire lives in the female role and who never started male puberty
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>>5622554
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>>5627121
Why? Is it wrong to be jealous of someone who has something you could never hope to? To look like an actual female human being, as opposed to some subhuman shemale freak. Is it wrong to want to feel normal, even if you're a little vain about it? To feel wanted by normal, non-homosexual men? To not hate your reflection? Its hell... knowing that you're living a lie you can never escape from because the only alternative is death, and that if you killed yourself you would just be that much more of a disappointment to everyone.
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>>5621366

This is why I refuse to identify as pan.
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>>5621183
Not necessarily. The thing is that it's almost always based on what society looks down on as a whole, and they're going to act like the rest of society does. If you're a 21 year old transgirl and society thinks you look like a model then then they'll probably think so too. I'm sure their clocking skills are unfathomable however.
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>>5627121
I'm kind of curious why you called anon out as not being trans. If you sat through a full male puberty does that mean you're not really trans?
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I feel so bad for transgender they all look like monsters or soulless dolls that are only going to get worse looking overtime. I'm sorry and I'll always treat you like I would any other female.
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>>5627351
inb4 some hopeless unpassable tranny asks to date you because you "understand them"
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>>5627153
>why even live if you can't be a cis tier qt
And then your whole stupid, rambling speech about how transpeople are shemale freaks that can only be loved by homosexual men. You're right, anon, I was wrong. You're not a trans pretender at all, trying to escape from your utter failure to be a real human adult by infantilizing yourself and misogynistically assuming to do that you need to be a woman. You're just another false flag planting shitcunt from a neonazi circlejerk.
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>>5627345
No. If you care more about being hot than presenting the right sex, you are most definitely not trans.
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>>5622506
YOU ARE SO FUCKIN DEPRESSING
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>>5627364
Nice catch, I missed that.
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So many tranny have sloth like faces
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>>5627354
I don't understand them I just treat them with respect because I'm scared they're going to steal my soul or hex me,
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>>5627364

oh thank god.

I must not be trans then

I'll be fine

this is just a passing fetish
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>left: pre-puberty transitioners
>right: us
>middle: late transitioners
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>>5627351
>only going to get worse looking overtime
>implying trannies don't age better than cis women
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>>5621349
You probably are super cute
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>>5627351
>that are only going to get worse looking overtime.
When will the memes end??
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>>5627682
I think right is the cutest tho.
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>>5627952
oh no, we're even becoming delusional like them
we really ARE the new hons
noooooo
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>>5627839
>>5627947
Can't really age better when you're starting off as a train wreck already.

>>5627386
>going to steal my soul
Gibsmedat!
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>>5627682

Andreja is pretty in an androgynous way but she doesn't pass that well desu
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>>5622554
I bet she ha the prettiest most feminine penis of all you gurls

I want it
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>>5628041
>she doesn't pass that well
>t. I know she's trans so let me list the false positives I pulled out of my ass
Passing =/= looking like some creature from moe anime
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>>5622554
>puberty starts at 10
Only if you have a freakishly early puberty
At 10 girls are still, on average, taller and stronger.
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>>5629026
>tfw didnt even start puberty until 15, didnt start looking manly until 22
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>>5622506
>mtfs who were transitioned when they were 3-5 will look down on mtfs who transitioned when they were 8-10
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>>5627369
It's trying to give you some perspective, fucking idiot
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>>5627849
Thanks. Best of all I pass on the phone. Combine cute with some admitted flaws and voice and people look past the bad. Kinda like those word tricks where things are wrong, but you don't notice until someone makes you pay close attention.
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>>5629300
So do I really pass voice or are people just nice. I can't stand to hear myself recorded so.... I hope I didn't just embarrass the shit out of myself.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0PgQYN9zA2w
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>>5627682
le funny but intense captioning
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>>5629332
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0PgQYN9zA2w
You need less falsetto, more depth in your voice, but I guess practice does that.
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>>5629332
I'd say that you don't quite pass. You still sound like you're using a falsetto voice, and the intonations are definitely strange sometimes.
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>>5629641
>>5629645
Thanks. I think being nervous and sitting hunched over my laptop on the couch contributed to those. I will keep practicing.
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>>5629652
I tried again. Still hunched but tried less falsetto, and read something instead of fumbling for words.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1TAGYcD17wH
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>>5629683
sounds very faggy. Try to not drop into the male range. You have to reduce your voice to your head, don't let it slip into your chest.
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>>5629697
It seems harder when I think about it.
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http://vocaroo.com/i/s04RYHWGHOLz
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>>5629733
I don't know relax? My voice is shit, so I'm planning on getting VFS, but I had a lot of voice therapy if you're curious.
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>>5629742
Ok. The focusing on it and nerves do effect it
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>>5622505
all trans people are delusional
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>>5629174
>>mtfs who got their balls removed when they were Just Born will look down on mtfs who transitioned when they were 3-5
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>>5631333

>mtfs who were screened for cross-sex identity as a fetus and were treated with drugs so they would develop reproductive organs of the other sex will look down on mtfs who had their balls removed right after birth
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>>5631350

>mtfs who underwent nanotherapy to alter their genome in utero to allow them to develop naturally into cis women without any additional interventions will look down on those who were simply treated with drugs to develop reproductive organs.
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>>5631389
cis women who were just plain fucking born normally will look down on all you faggots.
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>>5631436

But they're so basic.
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>>5631350
Lambert please go
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>>5631453
me on the left
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>>5621223
What if you are like a hon but really popular and famous kek
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>>5621183
stop looking down on ppl then
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>>5629613
"le" go fuck yourself
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>>5631455

She was a slute who managed to get a decent job and got kill-raped by an aesthetic black guy in a kinky black outfit though, so she fulfilled a deep-seated queer masochistic dream.

Lambert is fucking useless though.

>As navigator on a spaceship, her job is to quickly model and interpret and communicate 3D-4D etc space-time

>Except she gets upset and can't read the 2D motion sensor display as modeling a 3D space. Like she does normally, and would think, normally, more than any other person on board

The general uselessness and hatability of trans characters has continued IRL well beyond the old hollywood code to kill gay (or strongly implied gay) characters. Ace Ventura had its Finkle/Einhorn, Silence of Lambs had its Buffalo Bill, and Transamerica was nothing other than a sad hugbox where there was no personal interest to the character. This spills over IRL into that Manning military person, and Jenner, and I"m sure there's others.

The single most positive portrayal that springs to mind is Rocky Horror.
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>>5631333
; _ ;

"With your white skin and your big, wide eyes. youre completely a girl. mama likes this Angel-like you so much. but, one day you're going to start getting muscular and taller... adn your voice is going to get deeper too. even though i want you to stay like this forever... Oh, I KNOW! If "these" where gone then everything would be okay!
I'm a Genius~"

"Mama?....THAT'S...."

"FROM TODAY ONWARDS YOU ARE A GIRL <3"
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