Late night pizza edition
Looks delicious doesnt it?
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>TFW >>5611771 is a kind enough person that you kind of hope that he sweeps you off your feet and makes you his waifu.
I'm kind of blushing hard right now.
Just checking out your trips sexy girl thats all.
>tfw no precum soaked elanna to suck on
I try my best. And we can make that happen. I could sing you love songs from the 50s that I know by heart, and call you my pretty woman as we drive with the top down~
Dont give up desu. Its worth it. Ignore the demon treats and tone your form as I am trying to do!
It was just a guess, a good one I suppose~ I grew up with songs like those as a kid. I can also sing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oghoQEP3dDM
Do you like slow dancing? I could practice sweeping you off your feet~
I feel like this scene describes what you said well... and the last two in the sequence describing how I feel at the moment....
Yeah it ain't so bad I guess
In theory I could save up by working a shitty job for a couple of years (while living like a Jew)
'tis an annoyance
Either way, I'm probably going to leave this country once I've got my life together.
has anyone tried to treat their GID with anything other than transition? I'm a few months in on HRT and while I love it, I can't help feel weird cause I also feel good after I binge/purge, but doctors encourage one and discourage the other
pls tell me why it's not hypocritical to affirm one delusion and demonize another
I dont think i'm that flattering, i'm probably just a hopeless romantic. What I wouldnt give to be in that situation right now, that happy. That dress is incredibly cute, and I bet no one could wear it as well as you could~
You fucking bitch, that honey cruller is figuratively calling my name though the screen. I'm only a twenty minute jog from the nearest 24/7 Tim's. I'm going to drink water until I'm too full to snack.
Pizza hurts my stomach.
Second for plaid
You're post op? Im incredibly jealous.
Go online and look up local hair salons. Look for the name of a stylist that has consistently good reviews. Find a picture of a womans haircut you like. Make appointment, show up with picture, have hair cut as such.
That'll come later...
I'm going to bed now... I feel...
Great. Thank you...
p-pls I don't wanna end up as a hun or an early corpse if I decide to not transition, but I don't see what the difference between anorexia and being trans is
well like isn't it technically cosmetic surgery for like fixing stuff from natural deformities and accidents and war injuries too?
aside from quality of life stuff u could probably make an argument of it increasing someone's functionality as a contributing member of society just liek with transition where otherwise trans people often end up costing tax money on assistance programs from their issues
talk to your stylist and tell/show her that you want [feminine style]
if you have to tell her that you're trans, stylists want to work with you and are usually really nice
And then I never heard from him again
hey girl... no problem here to help
hit me up whenever im always free to help... im a nice guy :P
like I'm anorexic, if I were to try and get liposuction and said it was to correct a natural deformity I'd be laughed out of the clinic.
likewise, how is it correcting a natural deformity for a transperson to get cosmetic surgery on their genitalia to match an equally deluded view of their body as the anorexic seeking weight loss surgery?
Do I go to a hair place for women or one for everyone?
My hair is an awful neet mess and I dont want to make them uncomfortable but maybe just having a male voice isn't so bad if my face passes like people say.
Alsooo no idea what to do with my bangs, like my forehead isn't so big so maybe I don't have to hide it completely but I do like bangs and I don't think my hairline is that great.
wow thx ^.^
hey.... look i know i said im here to help but would u stop hitting on my bae? kinda pissin me off... if u do it im gonna be like.. im gonna be seriously ticked off dude....
grrrrr you're lucky its not a full moon
I'd go to one for both, but either should work just fine honestly.
I can't really recommend anything specifically bc I dont know what your face looks like, but a stylist can work that out with you
Here's a self portrait.
What if I go to a woman hair place and they get upset because i'm a disgusting man creature? ;-;
aFUCK OFF DUDE YOU'RE REALLY TICKING ME OFF RIGHT NOW IF IT WAS A FULL MOON TONGIHT ID GO FUCKING FERAL ON UR FUCKING TRANNY ASS U PIEC EO FSHIT GET THE FUCK AWAY FRIOM MY WAIFU U FUCKING POIECE OF SHIT FUCKING ASSHOLE ILL FUCK YOU UP
ITS NOT FUCKING SPURDO ITS FUCKING GONDOLA. GONDOLA IS NOT SPURDO
YOU FUCKING DUMB IDIOT RETARD WE'RE THROUGH IM DONE WITH YOU GO FUCK THAT ANIME POSTER YOU'RE FLIRTING WITH YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT YOU'RE A FUCKING MONSTER FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
I meant deformity in a medical context, things like anorexia and bdd are considered more delusional conditions, gender dysphoria is not
the treatment for gender dysphoria is transition because it has extremely positive results and brings risk rates for most things in-line with the general population, surgery for anorexia or bdd tends to just reinforce things and lead to desire for more surgery without improving conditions
>how is it correcting a natural deformity for a transperson to get cosmetic surgery on their genitalia to match an equally deluded view of their body as the anorexic seeking weight loss surgery
because dysphoria is not considered delusion and transition is an effective treatment for it
this is basically the same bad bait as trolls arguing that if we indulge the "delusion" of trannies we have to do it for people that think they're attack helicopters or anything else
can anyone answer this, or is there no logical answer
>I think I am overweight
>patient is underweight
>I think I am a woman
>patient is XY and has a penis
completely fine legit identity
why is it not considered a delusion though, like I am legitimately curious. do you have any sources showing transition brings risk rates into line?
>tfw so disgusting autists won't even rate you
they wont just kick you out
they'd probably just give you weird looks and recommend going to a different salon if you were like a super hon or something, but I'm sure they probably at least work with gay guys too so dont get too worried
I really doubt you look that bad tho
got two replies.
one was troll as fuck.
i'll rate you anon-kun! fuck these hoes
>talking about gender
>continues on sex
Maybe that's why? If trans people actually thought they had the body and Genetics of a woman then they would be delusional. But gender ain't sex.
>He's probably beating himself up wondering if he said the wrong thing and blew it with a really sweet girl right this minute.
You'd be amazed how often this happens. The guy thinks he blew it, but didn't, and the girl never communicates, and that's where a budding romance ends.
Don't let it end, maddie!
I gotta go to bed so I'll leave you with a picture of asuka
hey guys do you like my computer case?
you guys dont think im a faggot cause i got a pink computer cause right?
>objective fact with tangible evidence
>??? muh feelings
>subjective thoughts without basis
if sex is determined by physical components, then gender must be determined by psychological components? So doesn't follow that gender is just a delusion of the mind
he never posts pictures, he just fills half of each thread with posts about how he's the worst looking manly hon in the world and that everyone that genders him female in day to day life is hugboxing
he's an attention whore, not someone that legitimately wants feedback
does a faggot have a rad haircut like me though? didnt think so fuckboy
>tfw you look disgusting but can't fix it because too manly
What the fuck does ... mean? ;_;
guys i did some shrooms in the woods last week and realised im not transgender but im actually stargender.. hope im still allowed to post here and stuff but ive really found my new self
for all you living under a rock..."Stargender– An otherworldly gender that is beyond comprehension in earthly terms, as if it originated from beyond the earth. OR a gender that cannot be defined no matter how many other terms are coined OR simply the gender of a star."
i hope we can still be good pals guys,., but this is who i am
Like is he saying i'm too ugly or that I look like a man?
People have said I don't need ffs but my chin is meh but I need to fix my neet
aside from co-morbidity of bdd and general self-image issues trans people don't literally see themselves as physically women, they see themselves accurately and feel distress from what neurological research suggests is a structural mismatch from partial feminization/masculinization in the womb caused by epigenetic factors and transition corrects that mismatch as far as transition technology has come
people with conditions like bdd and anorexia have a warped deluded perception of what their body is like which is generally not corrected by surgery/weight loss, they just want more because it doesn't change their delusional perception and weightless can just feed into itself which is why anorexia/bulimia can be so dangerous
I don't have links on hand but there's that study that anti-trans people including that one doctor guy often claim shows a lack of improvement in suicide rates after transition but can only be interpreted that way if you ignore the demographic data showing improvements after 1989 and other studies show transition in either direction brings various health risk rates in-line with the sex that people transition to
I'm heading to bed soon and not gonna try to prove stuff to u that hard but u rlly should do ur own research and get a general idea of the landscape of current medical research and knowledge
eat some celery or something jesus christ..... why didnt u mark the fat? u just made up random shit to complain about on ur face that doesnt make sense but u leave out the fact that ur fuckin fat
just lose weight and see if you still "NEED" ffs dude holy shit
I remember I was in a cam-chat mtfg room and some ugly guy was crying because he was too ugly to ever pass, so I decided to hugbox him and tell him that he wasnt that ugly and that hormones were going to work eventually. So this little faggot replied "thanks, it means a lot to me, if some of the pretty girls who are on cam would said that to me I wouldnt believe them because they have it easier, but if somebody ugly say it it feels more real" or some bullshit like that.
That was many months ago
Now I think I found her again and she totally dont pass. kek
im Gondgender - a gender relating to or associating with Gondola (meme)
get used to it bigots
>tfw can make people feel better about themselves with my ugly
i hope that doesnt happen to mine... this is the coolest mouse ive had in a long time im poppin domes like BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM OWHHHHH u feel me man? best other one i had was WMO which was alright... i still have it but i fucked it up kinda :((((
i really like it... i never thought the esreality mouse was going to be any good i thought it wasnt going to happen or it wouldve been AWFUL but damn niggas know how to make a mouse sheeit
*farts on you're are mommy*
dude come on... like... ugh come on dude................... not cool?
dude just fuckin lose weight then see if u still need FFS
eat some fucking guacamole and dont eat pizza every day u fucking pig
Ideally it would probably be managing the calorie levels as well as fibers, vitamins, carbs, proteins, fats, etc. You can eat more of the non processed foods and have similar caloric intake.
how dare you
Gondola is the ultimate human. He represents our journey in understanding life; which is meaningless. Our eternal struggle against ourselves.
Gondola isn't supposed to be sad, he is supposed to be melancholic.
He is not suicidal, but accepts life as it is and experiences it as an observer.
Gondola is a wanderer who sees the world in a state of eternal melancholy, unable to do anything about it but move from place to place.
Gondola himself is an abstract form, and the combination of gondola and the landscapes he frequents (be it photography, painting, or digital) represent the unexplainable melancholy of the artist behind him.
He is far more than a sad frog with a rope around his neck.
>dude just fuckin lose weight then see if u still need FFS
I have tried
but I am kind of too pathetic
and I am killing myself in a few days because I didn't get that job and I have no way to ever pay for ffs or srs
and yes I can tell that my 3cm long upper lip needs to be lifted to make it look less masculine
I can tell that my brow bone protrudes and I know that the bruising/bags under my eyes will never go away because its genetic and caused over a long period of time of crying, sneezing and sleepless nights.
well it can depend a bit on ur particular health traits and needs tbqh but generally lots of fruits and veggies, whole grains, quality seafood and occasional meat, limit overly processed foods aside from fermentation "processing"
I could go on about specifics about all sorts of stuff but I'm in pain and fading fast
take out a bunch of people before u do it
nothing to lose, right?
yeah idk there. This one seemed decent
but yeah they seem to have crazy good results.
very good honestly
my gf finally got a new graphics card so I've been watching her play gta5, and I'm excited to actually be able to play high quality games
also getting high which is always nice
how are you??
It's like $80 here
I'm a Jew, so I rarely spend that amount of money in one go
yeah if u see me around wheneves then u can ask me, I'm still heading to bed soon but I'm vaping a cap full'a cannabis to feel better, so a bit on seafood:
cold-water fish are generally better
larger and older fish and bottom feeders can accumulate more mercury and larger fishes can be bigger ecological losses, many don't realize the tuna they're scarfing down in their sushi is older than them
oily fish are the the ones that have what u rlly want from fish and of the oily fish anchovies and sardines are fairly ecologically stable and some of the healthiest, squid ar also stable and pretty healthy, shellfish are good but are very environmentally sensitive to contamination and over-fishing and on that note the same type of fish from different areas are not necessarily equal because of differences in how fisheries are managed for example most salmon is improperly managed and most farmed salmon is a health and environmental disaster
I woke up to catch the bus to get to therapy.
>first bus didn't come
>second bus didn't come
After waiting for 30 minutes I decided to come back home and wait here and drink coffee. Now the next bus is announced to be at least 10 minutes late. Siiiiiggghhhhh...
It's not too bad I guess
Just a minor annoyance
Our dollar is shit right now and our government likes to tax everything.
thats ok, do what you love, and the money will follow. i currently have no way of makeing money for srs, but i trust that if i keep my head up ill figure out something... besides if you kill yourself, then you get rid of any chance of that ever happening
I know that feel... Im thinking go back to school
>mfw it will only get worse for us from here
RIP INTO HER DUDE
SHOW HER WHAT YOU'RE MADE OF
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
GET AT HER THROAT
>tfw $12k in my bank and pay goes through tonight too
So recently I've been thinking about how style plays a big part in passing, like, you've got to have a style that complements your appearance. But the problem is cis girls by our age have had years of experience slowly and subconsciously building up a look that suits them. Especially since splashing out on several years-worth of wardrobe to experiment isn't an option, how do I figure out what kind of girl I am?
pick out some styles/trends you like, take a look at what makes and breaks them in terms of body shape, for example I like vintage fashion, everything will look horrible on me. you may have way more luck than I
you could always upload a face pic to the site unsee if you want a second opinion here
>remembering my ancestors were genocided by the British
Fuck yeah Australia day. Who /au/ here? Also why was the winner of the Triple J hottest 100 so shit?
No one told me I should be a girl
Everyone said "stop doing x, you'll look like a girl"
Last night I dreamt of San Pedro. Well, not exactly, but of how I learnt to dance with my friends on La Isla Bonita as a kid... Would have been nice if the dream stopped there, since it's not that enough that I dream about a memory that's both real and unpleasant.
Except it segued into how I cracked my skull open the year before. And again, that girl dying in a crummy hospital room.
I'm beginning to wish I could go without sleeping.
Radio nation is pretty gucci too. I was at a Australia day bbq tho so not really fitting radio for that.
A lot of my family would probably see me as a weirdo
p-pls be my housewife, or let me be your housewife.. ;~;
>dont accept other trans people or yourself
>others accept you
this is so screwed up
i reject the notion of transgenderism
i accept other transpeople
i don't accept myself
I think I'm starting to lactate or something, occasionally a bit of clearish white fluid is on the end of my nipples, and if I squeeze a bit more comes out.
I didn't know this sort of thing could happen but I guess it's probably a side effect of HRT? I've been on it for a year though, so it seems a little weird that this would happen all of a sudden.
Anyone else deal with something like this?
poll time!! :
i went with bislut because being a special snowflake and calling myself a pansexual demisexual (pan-demi-c), while a more precise representation of how i feel about my sexuality, has no bearing on how my sexuality is expressed outside of the scope of bisexuality.
Ok, so... long, personal version. I can't feel any pleasure, sexual or otherwise, because of a deep, permanent kind of depression. Which in turn makes my desires pretty rare. I also have pretty bad reactions to being touched because of PTSD.
So, I could be asexual. I kind of am. Except unlike most asexuals, I don't really mind giving pleasure to a girl (no dick involved) if I'm pressed into doing it. I just go into cold, dead fish mode if she starts trying to do the same to me.
No problem whatsoever when it comes to love, though. Girls only, and I'm more into being in love than being loved, but it works out.
I can understand the asexuality (I never developed sexually --and have similar views there to yourself for different reasons), but it sucks that you have the depression and ptsd.
>I have to choose between myself and kayla
even polls are too hard
The dubs will help me guide through this day of teaching. Dubs 14:32
here I am
awake at seven am
nothing going on in my life
im just a meme
a sad life chooser
i didnt choose this life it chose me
you want to be a girl? too bad! heres a bunch of male extremities.
I dont know what to do
the sun goes up the sun goes down
day after day nothing but a depressed frown
I sit and I stare at this lifeless void
the joy it once brought now just leaves me annoyed
I dont know why I try
I wasnt meant for this world
its pointless for me
I just want to be a girl.
teach them how to have two windows resized to fit on the same monitor screen so you could read a document while adding the info to another . my Access teacher from highschool used to say it was a 'powerful' use of applications
>doesn't even know when middle age begins
You crack me up anon
>thinking back on all those years I wasted on just crossdressing in secret without ever fully thinking about it or looking into trans related anything
But I talk about at least 50% more dick than yuri!
>not enough talk about dicks
You know what this means right kuppy?
We gotta talk about dicks some more?
>tfw you don't really believe that you are trans
>hardly act 'like a woman'
>not even aroused by the thought or anything like that
>you are only transitioning cause it breaks the monotony
This is gonna end in tears, isn't it?
I think the lewd disease has retreated for tonight
I await in fear until it comes back
Doesn't it kill it at first before bringing it back
Either way, shit's gonna be crazy
ughhh i got fucked so hard last night and i came buckets and i tied him up and sucked him off until i he came in my mouth and then we cuddled and watched x-files and slept and cuddled this morning and i'm so happy nowwww ^~^
I don't really know of a way. Why would you want that?
it was so cute he just kept telling me how 'fucking sexy/hot/beautiful' i was almost excessively the whole time. guys have been telling me that a lot the past 6 months lmao
get ur own big dick it's mine. i took a bunch of pics of us fucking too, it was qt. i wanted him to fuck me in doggy this morning but he had to go and we didn't have the time for more sex ;-;
Well, I'm a dull person by nature.
I have few hobbies, I rarely socialise and don't have much in the way of personality.
The thought of being a guy doesn't horrify me, and I never felt particularly like I was 'in the wrong body'.
I started lurking here (came to see how 4chan was reacting to a lgbt board, stayed because there were so many tripfags and so much drama). Eventually I thought, "shit, if I'm not a trans, that means I'm a chaser and I'm not a chaser". Some shitty logic ensued and I had decided that that meant that I was trans.
I came out to a select small group of people and everyone seemed okay with it. It was about then that I realised that my logic was flawed (when I couldn't explain why I thought I was trans to a friend). My thought at that point were "well, fuck. I'm in too deep now".
The thought of being a girl doesn't really bother me. Just as the thought of being a guy doesn't either. I'm gonna end up mostly the same person regardless. But what transitioning is doing though is keeping me relatively busy, so I don't mind that.
It's also a bit of a 'grass is greener' type thing.
Ever hear of a 'seachange'? It's like that, but instead of moving to the coast, I'm moving to a different gender.
It's a little odd when it's fighting against your instincts, but not unheard of. Fwiw I had little interest in sex before hormones either, sexuality felt bizarre until I had the right kind of sex drive. Maybe the same will happen?
>tfw not this feel
I'm happy for you Edie, but for some reason, I still want to cry.
Everyone is either trans or a chaser. This is the way of the world.