>>5602934 If you don't get the snip you don't deserve to be seen as or treated as a girl. I already got it and now my birth certificate says female on it. Plus it passes so well I haven't told my bf yet about my past as a male.
>>5602977 >>5602980 Nice buttmad, hons. You'll always have man features. >>5602986 I can get my certificate changed without having to mutilate myself. I pass and have a 7" DICK that I love using on my boyfriend, who was my best friend before I came out to him as trans.
>>5603010 >inverted penis >female See how we could do this all day? Hon ;)
Just accept the fact we aren't women but we also aren't men. If you wanna get the snip fine but don't go calling people who don't 'not trutrans' or whatever bullshit you self righteous trans like to spew.
>>5602986 I'm seriously worried about you, jokes aside. There's plenty of men who get violent if they learn they were hit on by a trans woman, I can imagine it would be quite worse if they were sleeping with one unknowingly.
>>5603040 But we're not? I mean, isn't that the point of being non-op? >>5603046 Do you walk around with your genitals hanging out for all to see? I know I don't. Only my parents, boyfriend and my doctors know my secret.
>>5603067 What I don't understand is why VFS is such an underrated surgery. I mean, don't you guys ever get into situtations where your voice slips up or just reached its limit in copying feminine speech? Like don't you go to concerts or clubs or any loud place ever. Where you gotta yell? Or do you not have social lives. Because for me voice surgery is #1 on my priority list, and I don't get how it could be anything else.
I lol over this mentality of having SRS will solve all your problems like wtf no it wont. I'm mtf and over half of the trannies I know in real life mope around waiting for the glorious day of getting their frankenstein vagina instead of doing things that would improve their life in the now like fixing their mountain of facial hair or just basic hygiene
>>5603094 Well I live in Europe. So me being piss poor actually doesn't matter. Fortunate I guess. And supposedly there's a method where the risk of losing your voice is nonexistent, and I'm gonna get that. I trust.
>>5603070 It is quite silly indeed. Just because I like having a penis doesn't mean I want to look like a man, act like a man, age like a man or be a man. >>5603087 I already see a woman in the mirror. I never saw a man though. I used to see a frail sissy femboy but now I see a woman. >>5603102 Right?! They focus more on being trans than being women.
>>5603119 That's good for you. Not even being sarcastic, it is. The problem is that for some people the penis is too dysphoria-inducing. If their voice and face enough already, it only makes sense that they'd want SRS.
>>5603155 I don't know a name, but it's the Katharinenhospital Stuttgart. I have yet to meet the surgeon, but I don't think fame or name matters much anyways. The surgery is really simple. It's more about the technology and research than "star status". Suporn meme like.
Funnily enough with all I said about priorities and getting VFS before SRS (if at all). I already met Dr. Schaff. I went through the whole country per bus to see him.
>>5602934 I'm not getting the op cause neo vaginas fucking scare me, they look so weird. I hate having a dick and I'd take a real vagina in a second, but just seeing a neo one makes me want to retch and throw up.
>>5603163 That is quite okay, and I am glad my money goes to help those who need it. The problem is that there seems to be this idea that it is absolutely necessary to get it to be a woman, and often it is correct but only because of govt silliness to get the birth certificate corrected or some other documents. SRS ought to be seen as just an optional feminization surgery, and not the end-all-be-all. And to the trutrans scum, I am one less person on the SRS waiting list.
I'm really not certain how I'll go with this yet. I certainly want female genitalia, but I'm pretty indifferent toward my penis, with my major objection being aesthetic. I'm not sure the results of srs, even good srs, will be worth the -3 months that I'll need to be largely inactive, and the dilation, and the gross complications no local doctor knows how to deal with. But it would be pretty great for everything to be better in my crotch.
I'm waiting until I've been full time for about a year before deciding one way or another. If it doesn't feel right, I'll just spring for an orchi and well learn what the future holds.
>Auch bei dem Wunsch der Stimmerhöhung bei Transsexualität besteht die Möglichkeit der Stimmanhebung mittels verschiedenen Techniken. Wir bieten neben der Stimmbandstraffung von außen auch die endoskopische Stimmlippenkürzung an.
That's not really awfully much info. Stimmbandstraffung ist glaube ich eine recht primitive und verpöhnte Methode. Naja, viel Glück.
>>5602934 i feel like a lot of my value as a transwoman disappears if i get it, and i want to be seen as valuable. it's covered by my insurance and i could get a really good surgery, and in all honestly it would probably pass. i'm just insecure right now.
>>5603325 I can't imagine there's really that many closet gays outside the internet that would value a tranny higher for having a dick. Sure there are some, but outside the dickloving echochamber that is 4chan, I think a lot will be very turned off by that fact too. And many gays around here will shitpost endlessly about a dick getting chopped off. You just gotta remember this board reflect reality poorly. Heck, most don't even know how a neovag is made.
>>5603367 i'm the sort of person who will get the surgery anyway because it's the rational thing to do, despite not wanting to get it. i'm going to get it, i know that, because it would be foolish not to. i'm just compelled to not get it for this reason.
>>5603388 i think mostly because it's crucial to acceptance, by society and myself. i'm not terribly dysphoric about it except when i get erections, so i could keep it. i'm not intimidated by any of the "mutilated axe wound" rhetoric that every tranny here has to read, either.
another component is paranoia. i never want anyone to clock me. after i'm done, i'm going to move, change my name, and isolate my circles of friends. i might cut contact, honestly, but i think that's too far. SRS might not fix this (it's definitely up a therapist's alley), but...you know, what if i want to go to the beach? or wear tight clothing? i don't want to have to think about it.
>>5603388 Not that anon, but you transition to be a woman, not a freak stuck in transition. My opinion anyway, do whatever you want, but then don't be condescending to tumblr types, because that's you. 3rd-gender-ladyboy.
>>5603410 >except when I get erections That sounds an awful lot like dysphoria to me. Easy to ignore your dick when it isn't activated isn't it? Do you really want a useless soft stubby your whole life, or would you rather have a vagina? >>5603421 I already am a woman. What's in my panties are for me and my boyfriend.
>>5603481 i think i already said i was going to get it done anyway. i'd probably like to get it done soon before it shrinks a lot.
>>5603470 dysphoria is honestly such a buzzword now. i don't like anything that reminds me that i'm male. when it does, i feel bad. i don't, usually, want to turn around and cut my dick off, and if i do it's because of the former reason and not some nebulous neurological mapping disorder.
>>5603470 >you should get SRS because you have super bad dysphoria about your genitals Never said I don't, but that concept seems to be farfetched and alien to most people around here, considering most just claim to be dysphoric without even knowing how it's like.
And that's exactly the thing, they transition to get treated the way they want to, but don't feel anything's off with their bodies besides muh passing. Muh not perfectly shaped qt.
>>5602934 I've been in transition for probably longer than the majority of people on this board. I've weighed my options carefully and every time I ask myself the question, the answer is always no.
I don't have genital dysphoria severe enough to give me a solid reason to go through with surgery. The other reasons are largely superficial. Yeah, having a neovagina would make going stealth easier. I could wear whatever I want without worrying about tucking. I could have all my vital documents changed.
But they're (mostly) shallow reasons when it comes down to a question of pleasing others vs maintaining bodily integrity and being happy with myself.
I feel like a neovag would be settling for a shitty compromise. It opens a few doors, but it would make me more dysphoric having to wake up and look at it knowing that it a) will never look right b) will never make me 'real'.
So I might as well continue living with a dick since its not _that_ bad.
>>5602934 >Who /non op/ here? Me >Reasons for not getting the surgery? Surgery absolutely terrifies me, best case results aren't that great, absolutely terrified of complications, I cannot afford it, I have nobody to take care of me post-op, scars on me look horrible and very noticeable, scared of having a frankenpussy that doesn't function like a real one, etc.
Fortunately my winkie is so small and useless that it's pretty easy to conceal. Thinking about SRS gets me feeling down.
>>5603102 Its cause they fetishize being a woman they want a vagina so bad so they can be "complete" and obtain their ultimate fantasy. Instead of just being themselves. They say "oh this horrible dysphoria of having a penish" after living decades as male and fucking girls its such a joke
>>5602934 I'm not dysphoric enough to want to have a fake vagina. Now if we're talking orchiectomy, I'd do that in a heart beat. They're what get in the way the most and produce testosterone. I couldn't care less about my penis
>>5605987 >How disgusting It ain't for everyone, but it feels amazing for me and him. >>5607887 >Personally, you sound awesome, and wish I had a GF like you. Be on the lookout for scrawny effeminate nerds who try way too hard to be manly.
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