What Myers-Briggs personality type are you?
(Also put gender and sexual orientation, obvs)
I'm wondering if the rarer types are more common in LGBTs, or if trans people tend towards the same types as cis etc.
>INFJ, The Counsellor
>Cis female lesbian
>gay...bi...maybe I really don't know what I am
I don't know if this is a stereotype or not
>that feel when your personality given keeps changing the times you do it and you never feel like one truly suits you
I have a bad habit of flip-flopping whether I love spending time with my significant other. When I'm away I want to be with my SO, when I'm with my SO I wanna to be away.
INTP, ace male
May just be you (and the other guy). I either like somebody for a short time and just get bored of them, or I manage to get fairly attached and want to hang with them frequently or something. Maybe it's just me like that and your experience is more common, but I'm fairly certain yours is further from the norm.
>all these IN's
Actually no. The MBTI has been reinvented as the Big 5 test, and both do the same thing, explain preferences in an adequate way. If IQ's weren't a thing from before you were born, you would also be claiming that IQ's are "horoscopes for pseudo-intellectuals" because they've been slandered through mainstream internet tests with absolutely zero authority on the matter.
Horoscopes are another matter, again, utilized incorrectly by the mainstream to tell you "how your day is" - rather than what is more apt, describing preferences and generalities on groups born during certain periods.
IQ is also bullshit, and any neurologist will tell you the same. It's far too volatile, and can't be used to make conjecture. It's not my fault that you're a fucking sap.
Kek in what, internet tests? I'm sure your anecdote, sample size of 1, is so much more valid than formal studies on the system. Eat dogshit.
It's real. It's accepted by the scientific community of man in the largest sense. It helps individuals and communities alike.
So here you are, all by your lonesome raging against science. Sad
You're delusional, you clown. This inventory is a sham, and doesn't mean shit to the vast majority of science, and is not supported as anything more than a silly novelty by the mental sciences. You're grasping at straws to discredit reasonable dissent because you want to hold on to a trivial belief. That's what's not scientific here. Not surprising, considering you were defending literal horoscopes in your last post, as if the season of star drift means a damn thing to the lifetime behavior of an infant.
It's hard for you isn't it that not everything can be boxed in and conceptualized? I know it's hard to find equanimity in the pure fact that science will never be capable of answering every question we cook up because of the imperfection inherent to its design.
Science at its best is a mirror to the and nothing more. Bring about a problem like "why do humans behave the way they do?" it all falls apart and suddenly the children become scared.
Science is just the latest and greatest religion; another ham-handed human way to explain the world and make ourselves feel safer. Wake up logical positivist, you don't know anything. It's OK to admit it.
You might have done better to rip into this idiot for suggesting that horoscopes be taken seriously, meaning that the poster automatically can't be.
>b-but people born d-during certain times of year really do share traits here's an article---
Doesn't matter, and the reason why it doesn't matter, is because this supposition has not historically been explained in a scientific way, it's just an assumption. Even if the supposition were later established to be somewhat true by science, it would still remain the case that astrology had been psuedo science for most of its history, due to replacing rigor with some sort of story that sounds good, which humans excel at.
>You might have done better to rip into this idiot for suggesting that horoscopes be taken seriously, meaning that the poster automatically can't be.
Unsound. Try again.
>Even if the supposition were later established to be somewhat true by science, it would still remain the case that astrology had been psuedo science for most of its history
If science later establishes the connections needed, it is then validated. Your views of 'astrology being pseudo science' has absolutely zero impacts on this, if as you state, science does validate claims.
As a sidenote, you really do need to work on your arguments. They're unsound and really weak. You try to cover this up in your argument conclusions, I suppose it's your pseudo-intellectual instincts kicking in (assumption), but it doesn't actually help your argument in any way.
I'm just preempting the inevitable breakdown in a year or two when she realizes the only reason she's still a femboy is lack of courage.
>I'd be okay being a femboy if literally everything else about my life inovled looking, acting and being seen a female, I swear I have no dysphoria
It's denial, thankfully it's not quite repression
INTJ is what I get in personality tests but I take it with a grain of salt as the test doesn't tell what personality you are only what personality you think you are because your real personality is how you act in real unplanned scenarios not when you sit down with your laptop at the comfortable shag rug, sipping tea and checking yes on questions you can hardly replicate at the moment "Hmm, I might do that, save people from a fiery hot building, yeah. 'I agree' it is!" but do you really? Also most of these supposed representative descriptions for each type could be applied to anyone on the personality spectrum.
First step in being happy with yourself: realize there is no self. I let a cat in from the snow today. Her relief was my relief. The reflection of the fire in her eyes my own comfort. So don't feel sad, anon. Because then I will be sad. You wouldn't want that, would you?
Reminder that this test pretends to tell more than it actually does. It's a less rigorous version of the Big-5 type index based on Myer and Briggs' personal intuition, which in several cases contradicts the data, about what personality traits exist.
OCEAN is a much better test of what we actually have reason to think are genuine personality traits. The extra information the MTBI provides, like the descriptions of the various personality types, does about as good a job of telling you about yourself as a horoscope.
yeah, yeah we know, and even if we didn't there were at least two other people who think responses in this thread mean people are taking this shit seriously who used your exact comparison to astrology and all that
MBTI TIER LIST:
Wins at life:
ESTP (Most well rounded type)
ENTP (If they learn to focus. Otherwise mid tier)
INTJ (If they don't rot away as a basement dwellers)
ESFJ (This and above have amazing social skills. But they're prone to becoming useless, unapplied people)
ISTJ (Worker bee variant of INTJ)
INTP (As all rounded and as intellectual as the ENTP, but with less push to grow)
ISFP (this and above are unambitious, unapplied generally weak people who [successfully] derive their happiness from their mediocre friend group)
kill yourself and retry tier
INFP (Sensitive little unachieving fairy)
ISTP (Potential to be the one of the best types. Extremely prone to becoming a drugged up lazy asshole with ASPD/sociopathy. Fallen ESTPs land here too)
I like being Infp. Everyone shits on it because
but I like how intuitive I am with emotions and people. I understand people pretty well and and can read them more easily than others. Makes manipulation easier, when it comes down to it. I'm the friend that everyone comes to with their problems and trusts to help them with them because very loyal. I couldn't live any other way.
A healthy INFJ can get along with anyone; even one of their own.
Nah. Science is exactly opposite to religion. Religion requires faith; the scientific method demands that you trust no one, at any time. You must test to disprove your own hypothesis; the methods must be transparent and repeatable; someone else must repeat those methods; no conclusion is sacred. Even the fundamental laws of physics have been radically rewritten just in the last thirty years. You're just another spiritualist living farce, fucking about with wishy-washy sentiments and logical failures because you can't stand the fact that it is YOU that won't be the one to understand everything. It just burns you up that collective knowledge has eclipsed what any individual can fathom, and that there is a reliable method for paring down what is Knowable from what is Unknown.
The difference between me and you, you simpering fuckwit, is that I understand and relish my ignorance, and you fear and enshrine yours. You pay lip service to mystery and then you shit in its mouth.
you know this one time i got high and drunk as shit, and went to a psychic cuz it was the only thing that wasn't a diner that was open at 3am while i was walking around in the street... and i figured "why not?"
i don't believe in that shit, i don't take it seriously, i wouldn't need someone to tell me "you know that woman wasn't a real psychic" participation doesn't equate with belief... and knowing something is bullshit doesn't mean people won't participate...
INFP gay male. I am very sensitive and can be emotional even when I try not to.
not them, but i think they mean is believing that science is the proper way to prove everything worth knowing requires faith in the scientific method... as in... it requires the belief that the scientific method is the correct way to explain all things we don't understand... which is sorta like having faith...
>INFP (Sensitive little unachieving fairy)
sadly true, due to the society we live in.
for INFPs i think a very non-conventional life path is necessary for success. unfortunately so many people, regardless of personality, dont see it as an option to stray from the traditional life path (high school-college-office job). that path is just not at all suited for INFP personalities, so most end up as unachieving fairies.
then of course there are INFPs who do follow their skill set, and still end up as unachieving fairies cause a starving artist is starving for a reason.
basically what im saying is im fuckin hungry
Kill me senpai, and make it so that when I fall I kill you too.
Not the person you're replying to. But it should be noted that having "faith" in the scientific method is far different from having faith in lets says... astrology.
The scientific method is a surefire way to ensure that under the exact same circumstances, we will get the exact same results every single time (unless the predicted result is that we don't know what it will be, as in quantum phenomena). Faith is believing in something. And some things are far more worth believing in than others, such as the scientific method which produces endless amounts of very well defined, replicable results, and astrology which does the complete opposite.
I agree, and I also rated ISTPs as being worst tier for the exact same reason. It's not that types are fundamentally useless, they're just not suited for modern society. People are raised being told that there's no greater honor than being rich, popular and successful, when in reality many people want nothing more than the inverse of that (or at least some of those qualities), and yet those people are forced to follow in lockstep with everyone else to end up in the same soulless lifestyle where they will inevitably regret everything.
eh i wasn't saying it was the same... i was just explaining what they meant...
i don't believe in astrology, and i don't think i'm particularly capable of having faith at all honestly... so yeah... i get what you're saying, but none of what i was saying had any of my personal thoughts in it
Things can be true within the context of your reality, but that's where the scientific method hits an impassable wall. You have a fundamental faith in the senses, and that those things which you perceive are what they appear to be.
If you don't know what Fi or any of the other jungian functions are then forget everything you think you know about MBTI. All of it's crap anyway, but MBTI is worst of Jungian functions.
This infographic is essentially what MBTI is based on, it's also a much better way to decide your type.
Perceiving functions: Sensation and Intuition
Judgement functions: Thinking a feeling
Se = Extroverted sensing
Si = Introverted Sensing
Ne = Extraverted Sensing
NI = Introverted Sensing
Fe = Extroverted feeling
Fi = introverted felling
Te = Extroverted Thinking
Ti = Introverted Feeling
>Pick Si and Ne or Ni and Se, whichever two apply to you more
>Pick Ti and Fe or Fi and Te, which ever two apply to you more.
>Find the function out the four you picked which applies to you most. That is your strongest function, the function you picked alongside it is your weakest function.
>Look at the other two functions you picked but have not yet assigned, if your most powerful function (The you assigned first) is an extroverted one, then your second strongest is the introverted function you have not yet assigned and therefore your fourth must be an extroverted function as it's the last one you have left. If your strongest function is an introverted function, then your second strongest function is an extroverted one and so on.
Once you've ordered them you will have a "list" functions that decrease in power as they go down. The top one determines extroversion E or introversion I. The top two determine Intuition N or sensing S and thinking T or feeling F and your strongest perception function determines judging J(if it's introverted) or perceiving P (if it's extroverted)
Obviously this is a very quick explanation but I haven't eaten or slept for 30 hours so don't expect any decent.
Going to start taking ritalin soon, will probably go god mode after that.
See, it's odd. I used to be good with violin and other string instuments but haven't touched them in nearly a decade. Had a mental breakdown in teens and nearly starved to death and never got back to using them.
Is that all you think INFPs can be good for? Did go to uni, finished with highest honors and have gotten offers from Ivy schools.
Is that really a path I can't succeed in?
>used to get nothing but girl personalities
>not getting boy ones
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME?
I MADE MY MISTAKES
cis-male (mostly) hetero
>I'm wondering if the rarer types are more common in LGBTs,
pretty sure a lot of 4channers end up being INTP, INTJ, and INFP or at least a lot of ppl that post on /b/ do. Also, isn't all the Myers-Briggs supposed to be bullshit now?
This study confirms N > S. How does it feel to be inferior, sensors?
INTP. bi mtf.
Usually these online strawpolls sample pretty high on Ixxx and xNTx types for obvious demographic reasons. So that's going to confound any conclusions you try to draw about the LGBT samples probably
...and I post this as someone who consistently scores out as an INTP
>Yes, I've actually done <pic related> more times times than I care to admit. :T
>Can personality change?
Well, you're "true" type isn't supposed to change.
Most people don't understand the typing system correctly, including most online tests. It's not exactly as simple as you being E vs I, N vs S, etc. A lot of types that look similar function very differently. It's supposed to judge the functions you use and shit.
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Yes, if the system works as it should then you were typed incorrectly one of the times. Perhaps you grew more accustomed to your natural preference over time and discovered your true type.
I think the system is bullshit anyways though, so whatever.
>INFP, The Mediator
>straight feminine guy/uncertain mtf
I think it's a fairly accurate assessment in a lot of ways, even though these internet tests are all almost certainly pseudo-scientific BS.
Fair enough. I'm used to those ridiculous online tests you used to see on Myspace. But you seem to know significantly more about the subject than I do, so I'll take your word for it.
>some people put too much weight into it
As in they expect their personalities to 100% reflect what's written in the summaries given for each type?
Yeah, or they try to model themselves after the results because they think it encompasses more than it really does.
Calling it a personality type might be a little misleading as it's mostly just how you process information and experiences
That makes sense. Of course there has to be variation among individuals, otherwise the world would be a much more boring place than it is.
Would the way one processes information and experiences be a, if not the most, significant contributor to their personality? Not disagreeing here, I'm just curious how the two might correlate.
ENFJ is a god tier type though. It's the type of charismatic leaders with strong ideals. Lots of ENFJs can do cool jedi mind trick stuff too.
I somehow scored as that once when I was younger and refused to believe I was anything else because I loved the description, but ultimately accepted that ENFP fits better, and the whole idea of wearing your type as a badge of honor is extremely idiotic and pathetic in the first place.
Well like I said it's a starting point and rather broad. I think most people who are into the MB system suggest you don't just rely on a test and use it to do some self searching. It's not a scientific test, it's closer to something like a meditative process.
I a lot of people are tweeners too I think. There's probably a lot of INFPs and INTPs that could be better described as INxP and it varies depending on various factors like level of stress, mood, environment etc
>it's closer to something like a meditative process
That totally makes sense. I didn't mean my last comment to relate specifically to the test. At least that wasn't what I had in mind. I just thought it would be interesting to see the results of a study on the correlation between information processing and personality.
>a lot of people are tweeners too I think
Yeah it makes sense to think that external factors at the time of taking the test would in some way affect the answers they select and consequentially their results.
am ENFJ, have done cool jedi mind trick stuff.
The tricky part is translating what you want someone to do into the kind of situation that would make them do it. ENFJs are the only ones who a.) are leaderly and forceful enough to actually want something done and b.) are empathetic and social enough to accomplish it through manipulation.
All it really is is me, the manipulator, engineering a situation that would cause the manipulatee to do the things I want them to do. Ideally they think they're coming up with all this on their own.
It's really not a god tier type though. I am dissatisfied with the "E" module because it turns out that being constantly social is kind of a bullshit requirement, and FJ as a combination means you're wrong a lot because you go with your gut instinct most of the time. Makes me feel really stupid.
INFP, cis female bisexual
Kind of obvious, but last year a professor pointed out that a lot of people flip flop between two of the personalities. Up until last year when I took it again I was always INFJ.
I actually took the official Myers-Briggs test, along with two other personality tests. MB is easily graded by a machine, but the other two were much more complex. My results for the MB had the same results as the online versions I had taken in the past.
I'm very much controlled by my feelings when making decisions. I used to want to be a therapist, but transitioning meant graduating college much later and I don't want to be in school forever. Graduating this spring with a bachelor's in psych and going into tech.