>Oh geez it's anon, your hips are weird bro, cut your hair >OMG anon, I didn't recognize you in that costume! I came over to hit on you >Get out of the guy's changing roo--oh, it's anon >I'd love to see you in make-up, anon! You'd make such a pretty girl
>Wait, you want to take HRT? But there were no signs
>>5573571 Nope. I got confused for a girl constantly, amd I liked it, so I'd spur it on. I wore girl's jeans/shirts, grew my hair, worked on my voice. I essentially started transitioning before I started HRT.
And my teeth aren't crooked, but I do have buck teeth.
>tfw abusive father >tfw schizo sister >tfw want to escape ASAP to transition >tfw mum feels like she's failed in every aspect of her life except me >"thank god you're normal, anon, he always reins it in when you're around, also you're the only thing keeping me grounded, without you I don't know what I'd do" she's done so, so much for me but I need to get out of here... the thought of leaving her in this situation makes me bawl my fucking eyes out
>>5574147 yeah I am but I want to escape because I'm living in an abusive situation and my sister's already gone literally nuts from it, I don't want to wind up the same also they're really bigoted and might hurt me upon noticing I have tits soon
>Having dinner with family >Younger stepsister says "Why do you have long hair? It makes you look like a girl!" >"Giiiiiiirl" Other stepsister joins in >"You're an ugly girl though, we need to brush your hair, paint those nails, let's get some mascara" >Literally fading away into my seat, too beta to say anything back >Stepmom joins in "I'll go get you my little yellow sundress to wear" >My fucking face when my dad and brother are just laughing their asses off >Mfw gay but AGP as fuck, had terrible gender dysphoria at the time >Mfw every time I'd walk past either stepsister for weeks they'd blurt out "Giiiiiiiiiiiiirl"
>be first grandchild in the family >nonagenarian grandmother has cheated death countless times and is still kicking ass and climbing mountains (literally) >she just wants to see her "granddaughter" succeed and be happy in life and I've always desperately wanted to make her proud >she helped raise me and has been there for me through a lot of tough times >"You'll always be my precious granddaughter!" >"Y-yeah...that's right, Nana..." >started transitioning and can't bring myself to tell her >probably won't ever tell her >she'll never get to attend my nice, normal, heterosexual wedding that will never happen >I'll never give her great-grandchildren >don't even think she knows that being trans is a "thing" >she'll probably die loving a granddaughter who doesn't exist anymore Fuck these feels, I DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS
>>5573201 Every... fucking... day... That and: >You're a man, be a man... >You're the man of the house now... And occasionally when I'm doing something particularly "female", according to my mom... >Grow a pair of balls...
>>5576781 >he's asking me to explain myself, b-better call him illiterate!
you can't just say "you're wrong it's actually because...because reasons". "social conflict" is not a definitive explanation of why you're the way you are in any scenario. It's like me attempting to explain meteorology with only the explanation of "weather stuff".
>>5576841 >being born a male >desiring getting loaded up with hormones and your bits chopped up to resemble something you weren't born as, a female >literally telling nature to fuck itself because "Imma do what i want"
there, I've written it out for you, although I'm sure you understood. On your part though, vague terms like "social conflict" and "discrimination" are thrown around so much that no one knows what the fuck you're talking about.
>>5576869 >>being born a male >>desiring getting loaded up with hormones and your bits chopped up to resemble something you weren't born as, a female >>literally telling nature to fuck itself because "Imma do what i want" Well technically, evidence points to the desire to "violate nature" coming from nature itself. Which means nature is telling nature to fuck itself. Which means nature is unnatural.
>>5576875 >but telling mother nature to take our big dick is what humans do when it comes to survival, and creating productive systems that further our race, this does nothing. This only brings degeneration, you destroy your biological purpose, this is why I said you worship death. You don't see yourself as a means to anything else besides your own pleasures and urges.
Going against nature isn't always a good thing. There's is no survival imperative being met, as a matter of fact I think this is a result of the feeling of having no purpose and nothing to work for or surmount. I believe there's some truth in that old saying "idle hands are the devil's workshop".
ppl will and should do as they please as long as it doesn't harms other existing ppl. mones are not going to kill anon, nor anyone.
It's stupid taking it too seriously. Nature doesn't cares trust me, also diastase and mortality is natural and it ain't good. what you're preaching makes no sense what so ever, the people getting mad at it, it's not because of "nature" it's because they believe and take muh gender roles too seriously. We're an animal so developed and so evolved that we can act, be, behave any damn way we want, well except you maybe it's possible that the humans with 2 digit IQs don't have freewill.
>>5576989 >ppl will and should do as they please as long as it doesn't harms other existing ppl. nuthin matturs maaaan do whatevur u want if it feels good, if ur not hurtin nobody it's totally fine doooood
>Nature doesn't cares trust me It doesn't, but your unwillingness to act in accordance with it is going to come back to bite you later down the road.
>We're an animal so developed and so evolved that we can act, be, behave any damn way we want what you're doing is the result of caving in to your dysfunctions, this is the least libertarian and most free will-lacking thing you can do to yourself. You aren't outside of the boundaries of instinct and animalistic impulses, you aren't as free as you think you are.
>well except you maybe it's possible that the humans with 2 digit IQs don't have freewill. oh of course, fucking durr hurr look at me being a stoopid poopy butt for not sharing your mental illness.
Look, it's very clear you've never done any serious degree of introspection or developed even a modicum of self-knowledge. You seem to have stopped maturing at around age 12 or 13, hence why none of this is making sense to you. Your parents were probably neglectful and never set you straight and your educational history has more than likely been nothing but the delusional perpetuation of this "anything goes" post-modern cancer that you're rambling about. I don't believe in God but holy shit do people like you need to go to church or something, I see no other way you can learn some motherfucking humility, you absolute disaster of a human being.
>>5576869 People are social creatures. They have social bonds. They depend on these bonds, as a need, and go crazy and ill when the most important ones break down. Anons are feeling stressed because their families are being shitters to them -- causing conflict. Conflict. Social. Piece it together, retard. This isn't complicated, and your chronic shitposting just makes it even more evident that you are beyond any sense. If you want spoonfeeding, go back to /pol/ where they're happy to force redpills and lies down your greedy fuccboi throat until you choke.
>>5576906 >Going against nature isn't always a good thing. There's is no survival imperative being met, as a matter of fact I think this is a result of the feeling of having no purpose and nothing to work for or surmount. I believe there's some truth in that old saying "idle hands are the devil's workshop". You didn't even read my post, did you?
>>5577056 >nuthin matturs maaaan do whatevur u want if it feels good, if ur not hurtin nobody it's totally fine doooood Haha! What kind of stupid rebuttal is this? You're an outright child, man. Seek help. Do you honestly believe this is cutting? Rational? Did you stick it to the queers by making yourself into a moron?
>>5577131 >y-you're just a big meanie :,( that's the best you have?
Whatever, I know I'm not going to get through to anyone here, because you all have so many other outlets to fuel your disorders and give you shitloads of fuzzy hugboxing bias. I'm sure I'll hear of you all later in the news when you end up jumping into oncoming traffic or blowing your brains out.
>>5577056 >It doesn't, but your unwillingness to act in accordance with it is going to come back to bite you later down the road. All actions have consequences. We know that. But just because something is "natural" doesn't mean it's the best option Quite frequently, it isn't.
>what you're doing is the result of caving in to your dysfunctions, this is the least libertarian and most free will-lacking thing you can do to yourself. You aren't outside of the boundaries of instinct and animalistic impulses, you aren't as free as you think you are. So how are we supposed to act? What behavior demonstrates free will? Blindly following "nature", as you say we should, certainly doesn't.
>Look, it's very clear you've never done any serious degree of introspection or developed even a modicum of self-knowledge. You seem to have stopped maturing at around age 12 or 13, hence why none of this is making sense to you. Your parents were probably neglectful and never set you straight and your educational history has more than likely been nothing but the delusional perpetuation of this "anything goes" post-modern cancer that you're rambling about. I don't believe in God but holy shit do people like you need to go to church or something, I see no other way you can learn some motherfucking humility, you absolute disaster of a human being. Holy f*ck, the projection
>>5577120 If you had an actual argument on WHY trannies are retarded, you wouldn't have to worry about being banned. Disrespectful shitposting, like you're engaging in now, IS against the rules however.
>>5577183 >Whatever, I know I'm not going to get through to anyone here, because you all have so many other outlets to fuel your disorders and give you shitloads of fuzzy hugboxing bias. I'm sure I'll hear of you all later in the news when you end up jumping into oncoming traffic or blowing your brains out. You'd have a better chance of getting through to us if you could actually explain why doing as you say would benefit us. You just argue that we'll end up regretting going down this road, when in fact many of us have tried to be "normal" in the past and it just didn't work. There's a reason we made this decision, and unless you give us some kind of new information or perspective it's not going to make us change our mind.
>>5577183 >You're hugboxing! You're biased! Not me, I've never been hugboxed never ever. These studies are false because conspiracy. These standards are illogical because I don't like them. You're all just suicidal clones!
>friend at lunch mentions how i remind them of a blonde mtf they know >SHEKNOWS.PNG.EXE.JPG.GIF.DAT.WEBM >later conversation moves to filming a terrible movie for kicks >"Anon can be the female protagonist!" >>>>>>>>>>>> there's not enough alcohol in my house to deal with this
As a tranny, >>5576741 is right. His analogy in >>5576810 is very keen too, at least to me. In my sociology textbook (even though I didn't read much), social conflict is defined as "A view of Karl Marx that social conflict-class struggle due to economic inequality-is at the core of society and the key source of social change." Social conflict doesn't mean much on its own.
>Be me in October >I went to get my Basic Life Support certification as a prerequisite for EMT training >Got there late by ten minutes, I didn't even know where the entrance to the building was. I thought I would get my ass roasted by the instructors because I thought you're expected to take shit seriously in healthcare >Turns out when I asked the security guard, I was the first to arrive >I take the time until everyone else arrived to go over the AHA booklet because my college work kept me from reading the whole thing >Eventually, a handsome blond guy with blue eyes around my age shows up as I was reading, he asks if I was there for the BLS class >I look up and he walks over with a curious look directed at me/the book in my lap (couldn't tell in the split-second I looked at him) >He was smiling as he asked and combined with the way he tilted his head, it was kind of seductive >I quickly turn my head back to the book and tell him I am here for the class >He sits down next to me (most of the seats were full at the time) >He tries to start a conversation with me >My thoughts go straight to thinking, "Maybe it will be like those lewd posts on/lgbt/. Imightfinallygetaboyfriendandlosemyvirginity. Maybewewillgetmarried. Wewillbuyahousetoourselvesandlivetogetherhappily." All of these lewd thoughts come to me. >I even thought "This isn't anything like when girls liked me. With them, they just made me anxious, like I was waiting to be attacked, but now I'm actually... excited?" >I'm just trying to not spill my spaghetti and I autismally give him one word answers >Heavy breathing as I'm looking at my picture book, it's not reading anymore because I can't focus >Try to regain control of my breathing but his voice just keeps it going >Eventually, two other guys get there, both of them are older and we start class >Turns out, the blond guy was the assistant instructor >I avoid his gaze until a bit into the class
>When I do, I realize that though he is handsome, he has gay face >"Ah, right. Why would a straight guy be in to me?" >We ended class like an hour, maybe hour and a half early, and the two instructors and the other guy are talking about some medical stories >Since I was a complete noob while the three of them already had experience and I'm socially retarded, I just stood there wondering whether I should interrupt them to ask the main, older instructor a question about something I missed >Eventually leave, feeling like a loser as I said goodbye >Wasn't missed >Get home, look in the mirror >See my stubbled face and manly mandible >Want to kill myself
Both of these are from Tuesday
>Sitting in blueprint reading class on the first day of the semester >Hoping someone notices you look kind of feminine and realizes you're at the start of transitioning >Maybe they think you would make a cute tranny gf... :) >Remember you're a hon :( >Remember you will never be anyone's Mrs. >Remember you will die an untouched virgin >Imagine as the professor talks about a previous student who got a job on the strength of their CAD portfolio that when you get a job and kill yourself some time into it, the boss will say, "It's a shame someone so talented felt they had to end their life. If only we knew what had been bothering him."
>Walking from university to home >See a guy distinctively looking at me for 3 or 4 seconds, slight smile on his face >People had been looking at me strangely all day >Wasn't sure if it was because I had my scarf covering my face, or the fact that my wool cap with a braided design and my wool gloves looked kind of girly (they were both black though) >This time, I made sure not to cover my face, just my neck >So it must not be because I look dangerous >"But I definitely still look manly as whiskey, don't I?"
>>5579587 anon are you even really trans or do you just want someone to want you the way a woman is wanted, and does that actually have anything to do with being female or transitioning other than more easily falling into some particular person's kind of fetish (possibly your own)
>be ftm >can't take hormones right now because of reasons >friend tells me he knows i don't really want to be a man, i'm just gay and in denial >another time say something about wanting to fuck a girl >"um you have a vagina" thanks for that. i hadn't noticed.
Of course I'm trans. I've been struggling with this since before I was 8, maybe as young as 6. I'm just lonely, senpai. I didn't care at all about relationships or sex until I started HRT (didn't even watch pornography or read doujins). Now I have these unbottled feelings with no outlet but shitposting my misery. I don't know about you, but any cis man or woman would be turned off if they were being looked at as people of the opposite gender.
Why on earth do you think I'm a fetishist? Outside of the >cute tranny gf line, which is just the recognition of that being as good as things could get for me, everything else is something a woman might realistically want. I've seen some thirsty girls, before, anon. And I don't see the difference between them and myself.
>>5576906 >Going against nature isn't always a good thing. You're an idiot. Nature isn't a conscious entity. It just is. Everything that happens in this universe, to our knowledge, is natural. You can't use "unnatural" as a synonym for "things I don't accept."
>>5579593 >I just mean do you like any of them Of course, they're my friends. I could spend the rest of my life with one of them if that's what you mean. We've already joked about moving to the gay part of town and live together.
>>5579593 That quote means the exact opposite of how you're using it. It means that when you extol the virtues of something too much, it sounds hollow, and to sing the praises of someone endlessly will make it seem you think the opposite. You're covering up for something by being a toady.
In Shakespeare's time, "protest" did not mean "deny."
I already knew protest meant "affirm" in his time and that the line is made by Hamlet's mother about the queen, modeled on herself, who promised to remain chaste in a play Hamlet set up. I used it because the repetition of the hand-kissed-anon's comment about how gross her friend is makes her sound just as insincere.
Being anally retentive isn't good for you, anon. Or are you going to tell me what anon meant in Shakespeare's time?
>>5583222 >Any girlfriends I have had >>Anon you're SUCH a GIRL!
I know that feel. I actually always thought it was pretty nice tho, made me feel like my "true self" was kinda shining through. I mean the same girl broke up with me because she thought I wasn't "being enough of a man" in the relationship, but it still made me feel good.
>this entire thread >full of beta wuss faggots who can't stand up for themselves
Holy shit, I'd say kill yourselves, but you'd probably wuss out of that too.
Part of being a male, biologically born a male, is that you have hormones in your body that make you aggressive. Gender dysphoria and all that other made up bullshit is just your excuse for not trying and never pushing yourself to do anything great or meaningful.
You only have yourself to blame for your failures and you should stop being such betas
I had a super catholic religious family that thought I was a complete fag and said I was going to hell, but I moved out, got a job, fell in love and got married.
Fuck you faggots and stay unhappy forever. You deserve it.
>>5585026 >implying a girl has ever got into a fight another a guy and beat the shit out of each other untill you are both out of energy with a bloodied face and just rolling around on the ground unable to even harm each other. >Implying a girl could understand laughing and shaking the mans hand after fighting him and showing him respect even after he beat your face in. FTM is a lie as much as MTF are
>>5585015 Do you ever consider the fact that you only hold this belief because you're legitimately so sexist you couldn't understand why someone would want to be feminine? Like I'm not even trying to say that from an SJW type angle, I'm just being real.
>>5585817 There's literally nothing good about being a woman. They are weak, stupid, and useless with disgusting vaginas. They have never contributed even half as much to human progress as much as men have. Mtfs are just extremely gay men who want to be a useless woman so they can get everything catered to them
>>5585833 >Mtfs are just extremely gay men who want to be a useless woman so they can get everything catered to them Not all mtfs are attracted to men. And it's definitely possible to have a submissive social role without going through a full gender transition.
>>5586002 So then you refuse to defend your point? Then you must concede that you lose the argument. You can't "win" an argument without supporting your points and instead just call anyone who disagrees with you a "retard". If you can't be bothered to defend your points, I don't see why I should even consider them.
>>5586015 What's there to prove. Look at all major human inventions. Almost all human societies are run by men, all major industries are run by men, look at all the greatest works of art and literature, Most of the renowned ones are written and drawn by men. You'd have to be living under a rock to not realize this.
>>5586030 >What's there to prove. Look at all major human inventions. Almost all human societies are run by men, all major industries are run by men, look at all the greatest works of art and literature, Most of the renowned ones are written and drawn by men. You'd have to be living under a rock to not realize this. No one's disputing that, what's being disputed is that it is all because of women being inherently inferior. That's not the only possible explanation, you need to refute all other possibilites before you can claim it's due to women being inferior. What you're doing is equivalent to seeing a car that won't start and assuming there must be something wrong with the engine, without addressing other possibilities such as it being out of gas.
>>5586030 lmao are you just going to keep pretending women weren't discouraged from such pursuits and practices and denied resources? even if you were given examples you'd still dismiss it and go "RETARD RETARD RETARD" so why even fucking try
> "you're built like a football player, you should've been a lineman!" > "you should grow out a beard, it would look good on you" >" why don't you cut your hair?" > "What kind of weirdo shaves his body hair?" >"trannies are such degenerates. Don't you agree?" >"I'm so glad you're the normal one in the family, son" y-yeah, normal
>>5586072 And who do the horny old men at the top like to hire? Men dominate those positions because of when they grew up. But twenty years from now it will be the complete opposite. It's pretty obvious if you work anywhere.
>Cousin sees me for the first time in 2 years >I have long hair now >proceeds to call me a girl in front of other family members >keeps calling me "she" in that just awful enough tone >mfw i sink deeper and deeper into the couch >no one else even touches the issue >none know that i was a closeted mtf at the time
>>5583556 tbqh I liked it too. It just left me with an imprint of feeling like I'm a lesser person than a "real man" or something. But really I'm just different :) I had a couple gay friends at one point and we would go shopping and I would try on girl clothes and they would tell me how hot I looked. It was some of the most exciting times I've ever had. I wish I would've accepted my weirdness back then instead of burying it and letting it hurt me inside for years.
>you need a haircut! do you want to look like a girl? >go cut your fingernails! do you want to look like a girl? >you shaved your chest? do you want to look like a girl? >you shaved your legs? do you want to look like a girl? >you want to take hormones to look more like a girl? there were no signs!
>"I hate this male puberty" >Anon... you can't go against that... >You shouldn't transition Later on >I don't want there to be animosity between us >I want you to go back to being the happy little boy you used to be
>>5573054 >tfw you were the one who disregarded your trans bf wishing they were a boy >tfw that probably contributed to why you broke up >tfw you think you might be trans months after this I'm still not over him. I wish I had the guts to a least talk to him, to start over. I was being a dick, and I don't think that I could ever find someone as good as he was to me. Hell, I wish I could talk to anybody about my feelings for once, and not just bottle it up for the few posts like this that I put here.
>>5589674 I don't even know if he changed his number from the one I have Even if it is his number, where would the conversation go from there? "Hey, I was an asshole, take me back?" There's no way I can think of that we could go back to being friends. The tension is just too big now. Of course, the obvious next response is that I'm making excuses and should just, for lack of a better phrase, "man up" and either talk to him or move on with my life. Both options seem neigh impossible to achieve in any way and I am just venting on the internet because I can't talk to the people close to me.
>>5589785 Yeah, you're just making excuses. You know what's the great thing about tension? It tends to break. Just be completely open and honest with him -- especially about the trans thing. I think he'll be a lot more lenient considering you were a closet case.
>>5589810 >the meat of what you wanted to bring up That's the thing, I don't know what I want to bring up! I just want to see him again, get some sort of emotional release from this seemingly endless turmoil whenever I remember something, which is a lot considering we were friends since we were like single digit aged kids and I haven't taken off the wristband he gave me since he gave it to me >>5589826 I haven't come out to anyone, ANYONE. I only started questioning myself about this time last month, and I'm still not sure if I'm trans. Have you ever stayed friends with an ex? He was the first and last person I dated, and it was barely that.
It used to be I'd get >Man the fuck up, you wuss. >I don't want to hear about this again, or your getting beat harder. From my dad. Now its more >I love you, but I don't think i can be with a girl. From my trans girlfriend. Fucking stupid motherfucker I am.
What I'm getting here is you are either a chaser or in-denial MtF who didn't realize it until your girlfriend broke up with you for it, you are an FtM, or you were an out MtF the whole time and your transbian gf turned straight on you.
>>5573054 >Cut your hair, you're going to look like a girl? >Why did you shave your legs? It's how you show you're a man >You need to stop shaving your arms. >You should start lift weights, you'll be fit and strong >Wow you're such a tall man ;~;
Don't worry about losing her, anon. You might be able to get yourself a boyfriend and then you can be best friends with her after you start transition. Maybe you could share a boyfriend or have threesomes together too.
What tipped her off, though? What sort of things did you say to your father that pissed him off?
>You remind me of my ex, he turned out to be gay >omg you have such a big cock! I though it would be small with how girly you are >hehe look at anon, I think he likes (male friend) >Here anon try on my (girl) coat. Wow! you look like a european model or something! >anon why are you so monotone all the time? When you get excited you're like a whole other person!
>>5596106 I'm comfortable with my body as a lean fairly fit male. I don't wish I have boobs. I tend to be relatively masc but have big feminine moments I don't put on a girl voice and don't want too. Though I get comments on sounding girly if something excites me. I like having smooth skin and cute stuff. I like having my hair long and wearing cute/androgenous clothes I guess the answer is no I'm not really sure I guess but I'm attached to my body I'm not dysphoric. There's just no way I would want to go on full blown mones and risk growing boobs and having my dick stop working.
>>5596169 I'm really glad somebody likes my description :) I almost feel like a foreigner on /lgbt/ sometimes with all the memers making sexuality seem so black and white. What is your sex/gender? Just curious.
>hiding in boymode on hrt >sorting donated clothes, mostly women's >girl holds a thin black, definitely women's, sweater with purple and pink pattern up to me. >anon, i think you'd look good in this one >umm >didn't seem like she was joking around >i try to play it off as a joke
>>5589364 >Not trimming my fingernails was just laziness on my part. Same but for some reason my hands always get ridiculously dry and sensitive after I cut my nails (some placebo shit, I think) and I try not to cut them too often because of that.
>>5596015 >Do you hate women? It was my dad's girlfriend. If I go out to eat with them they pressure me to go and talk to girls all the time. She has made it clear that I set off her gaydar and that's just one of the things she has said passive agressively. >When I was your age.."insert anything here" "I had a girlfriend and 2 chicks on the side!" "I went to college AND worked!" Basically when older people are stroking their egos over stuff that is most of the time an exaggeration, and isn't possible or much harder to accomplish in present time. This one wasn't specifically pertaining to sexuality, just something that triggers me.
>It was my dad's girlfriend. If I go out to eat with them they pressure me to go and talk to girls all the time. She has made it clear that I set off her gaydar and that's just one of the things she has said passive agressively.
Why does your father have such bad taste?
>This one wasn't specifically pertaining to sexuality
I figured that, that's why I wondered why you typed it.
>>5598255 That "I went to college and still had a full time job" thing fucks with me so badly. Not only are university courses more demanding than the shitty fucking high-school level classes boomers went through, the corporate structure isn't even the same beast and demands for time are inconsistent and total. We work harder than the last generation did, and the generation before that. Fucking welfare queen baby boomers are defaulting the country, and somehow it's the young people to blame that are holding up the system.
>>5599290 >Why does your father have such bad taste? Oh jesus, trust me. This is the best one yet since my mother. I recently came to the conclusion I can't be around them very much. They make me feel uncomfortable and moody. In general I'm a relatively stable person too. I don't have to like my dad even though I love him is the moral of the story.
>when my family does somethin' together and since we somtimes move in 2 cars my mom goes "girls with girls and men with men" implying i should go with my brother and father in one car and them in the other. >woah anon's shoulders have grown quiet a bit. you should start liftin' some weights!
>"anon you look so feminate, you make a great woman." >I jokely put a woman's coat on "Anon, do you want to be a girl?" >Joked to with someone who I teased them with a secret. Told a few hints and said it started with the letter T. Immediately asked if I was trans
>>5600552 >Buy a women's coat because I like the look and fit, feels so much nicer than my current men's coat >Dad asks if I'm going to start wearing dresses and crossdressing >We joke, say its just the coat and everything is okay after that chat >I'm just relieved he didn't ask if I was trans or it would have blown my secret wide open
>>5599854 >tfw not even out to my father and he told me last summer that he's disappointed that I've not grown up to be the type of son he expected, fishing and shooting etc. at least I have no qualms about completely cutting him off once I move out
>>5602271 On the flip side of this not being always a bad thing, >hanging out with best friend, who I am out to >time to go home, give him a hug >"oh my god! You're so soft and fluffy! You really are a girl!" >mfw
>>5601799 >We HAVE to make you into a man!! >Why wont you start carrying weights? >Are you a pussy? why dont you have gf? >Yo anon do you suck dick or something? >Bro your skin is so soft you should eat more >Stop wearing tight clothes anon they make you look like a girl/faggot
>>5573054 >regularly got confused as a girl >had a closet filled with different girls clothes >regularly shaved my legs >wore make-up to school >tfw mum says 'But you never showed any signs' >tfw when i literally looked like pic related (me when 11) and can't fucking fathom how she couldn't have possibly seen it.
>>5602955 Damn, you were (probably still are, don't know what you look like know tho) a super qt3.14. You really looked just like a cis girl. I don't know how parents can be so oblivious when it comes to their own children sometimes. I guess the answer is hardcore denial because they just don't want to accept that their child isn't who they pictured them as being.
I'm FtM, but my mom did the same thing to me when she finally realized I was serious about transitioning. She tried to convince me that she knew my life experiences better than I did and went on about how I "never showed any signs," "was so happy as a girl," "never acted like a guy," etc. Fucking seriously? I was an androgynous kid who often passed as a boy (and liked it), then I was a huge tomboy who refused to wear dresses or skirts, and then I was a miserable teenager with no friends and nearly killed myself trying to starve my feminine traits away. Looking back, there were a million signs that I was somehow ~gender non-conforming~ (fucking Tumblr word, but I don't know what else to call it), but my mom now claims I'm making all of it up and inventing a fake history for myself to support my "delusions"/"psychosis." Apparently I was always a happy cis girl who liked being a cis girl.
Parents. Thank god I'm never going to be one.
>>5603288 Fuck, that sucks. Sounds like the kind of thing my mom would do, too. Good luck.
>>5604097 I ended up going through medical transition when i was 21 and i'm 22 now. testosterone fucked me up real bad... but i haven't been misgendered by anyone other than by my mother in ages, mind you i hardly go out.
>>5603003 And yeah i was... too bad i didn't see it at the time and literally thought i was the ugliest thing ever at the time. If i medically transitioned early i would have literally 100% passed without any effort at all. Now i fucked up my body and have a man chin/no hips =/
>You would look so much nicer if you cut your hair short! >Why do you wear that? It makes you look like a girl. >Guys don't need to shave their legs, anon! >Why do you take so long to get ready? It's not like you're a girl.
Alternatively: >get mistaken as a girl a lot, look feminine and have long hair >get "ma'am", "miss", and "lady/ladies", especially when out with friend who are girls >friends and acquaintances call me "pretty" and compliment my hair/girly clothes a lot
I probably have low testosterone or something since I look feminine, don't have to shave often and don't have much, have a higher voice, and have had breasts since I was a teen (even if I was skinny). I haven't started HRT yet but I'm working on it, I'm just really anxious about starting things even if I essentially already have.
>>5610937 I have no idea. Reading up on it I'm not sure, especially since everyone says it's really unlikely (though I guess so is something like being trans or whatever anyway). I guess it's something I could ask a doctor about? At least, assuming I could get someone who would check.
>>5574722 >tfw child of two families, one of three sons, and one of three daughters >tfw one daughter killed herself young, one daughter had a single son who overdosed on heroin, and one daughter had me >tfw one son followed his dreams of being a doctor so faithfully he never had time for love, one son never dated again after the motorcycle accident, and one son had an infertile daughter and me. >tfw my parents both wanted many children but married the wrong person first and got divorced. (my sister is from my Dad's first marriage) >tfw my two sets of grandparents, both having three children, expected a large family
>tfw with each death or tragedy the hopes of all my family members have increasingly fell upon my shoulders. >tfw they don't understand trans issues and would likely just think me selfish for following a fetish or some trend the media is pushing >tfw mtf
Would it be better to raise some kids and kill myself or kill my whole family genetically?
I haven't started yet. I plan to get EMT training this summer so I can focus on my classes during the academic year. Then the plan is to be an EMT for 6 months for application to med school (at least my doctor said that would be enough). So I wouldn't know anything about it as something you do for the rest of your life, either.
>>5611978 i'm kinda similar senpai >my two grandparental families had three children each. three of those decided not to have children, one had one child and my parents shacked up and had two. >so for children we've got me, my sister, and my cousin. my sister is terrified of men and projectile vomited on the last guy that asked her out. she's 23. my cousin chooses to spend money on microtransaction mobile phone games rather than buy clothes and never leaves her room. she's 19. then there's me, 26.
>all hope was riding on me to provide children for this shitty family of no-hopers, dead-ends and mental cases. settle down, get married, have kids. no problem. my mom was making hints, both my grandmothers were making hints. mom goes to a high school reunion and all her friends are now grandmothers. the pressure is on.
>tfw I'm intersex, sterile and have a womb that cramps and gives me intermittent periods and I don't even have proper balls. My family had no idea because of my secretiveness and shame. And now it's p much certain their genetic line and both names will die.
>tfw transition female successfully, meet an amazing partner, decide to marry someday and adopt kids >tfw my parents will never love them as much as if they were my biological kids >tfw disappointment from parents i will never be a father >tfw disappointment from my parents i will be a mother >tfw biologically i could maybe be a mother if i had a vaginaplasty >tfw its my dad's fault for making me a genetic freak so i don't care about their pressure anymore
>coming out to them, telling them i was intersex and that my body is a ruin of health problems i kept secret for their sake, along with my intention to transition and live my life as i was meant to be without paternalistic medical intervention and testosterone shots, as a period having ugly tall woman.
>my mom says "But we thought you were just a typical lad!"
>>5619928 p much senpai, stuff isn't quite right and small but looks male enough... my doctor was a Saudi so i think that didn't help get stuff recognised. i had hallmark stuff (developmental issues, speech acquisition problems, body co-ordination difficulties and heart defects) and spent childhood wishing i was a girl and being a complete shy femme fag with all my friends as girls but my parents had their heads in the sand, were busy working and i hated bothering them. i shut myself off from the world in my teens and took my t-shots like a good boy when my 'balls' didn't work. i guess being a depressed, isolated, no friends teenager in baggy clothes is kind of typical. no-one ever thinks its to hide growing boobs, that's all.
conversely once you've shot yourself so full of man juice for ten years and can grow a better beard than your dad, no-one expects you to start screaming about having a period
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