I've always identified myself as bisexual bu lately I've been seeing posts that are making me confused. I'm sexually and romantically attracted to everyone, like I don't exclude anyone. And recently someone told me that means I'm pansexual. But I thought bi meant that I like people rather then what they identify as?
Pansexual is used to denote that you're also attracted to genderqueer folk who can't just be called guys or girls. If you're attracted to them, you're pan. The problem a lot of people have with it is they refuse to believe genderqueer people are real, so they insist on using bi. Truth is most bi people are pan.
Eh, I just don't like the proliferation of pointless labels. I mean, I guess >>5521959 makes a decent argument that it might make more sense if we also are considering people that don't consider themselves men or women, but that opens up the combinatorial explosion of terms that comes with "well I like this this and this but not this this this this or this". I don't know, I guess I can see why people might want that, it just makes communication difficult. Whatever, I'm not going to change how people talk I guess.
I don't get this argument; transmen are men, transwomen are women, bisexuals like men and women, the only people whose identities are being erased are more exotic genderqueer types that don't consider themselves either.
At this point, you have the choice to call yourself either bi or pan. I'm bisexual, and I'm attracted to all genders, including nb ones. I just choose to call myself bisexual because I'm more comfortable with it.
Nonbinary people still fall under the "trans" umbrella. That said, bisexuality is defined as being attracted to two or more genders, so the argument doesn't work very well anyway. And after all, you could be bisexual and attracted only to women and nonbinary folk.
>Go through years on gender dysphoria
>Go through years of trying to accept who they are
>Must get over the fact that they are different from regular people
>Must go through years of hormones and coming out to their parents to finally be accepted with in society
>Some don't even pass well so they must deal with ridicule
Yeah, but I'm sure they're just playing dress up for the heck of it though.
Niceb8 by the way.
Average bisexual: I'm attracted to males and females. :)
Average pansexual: I'm attracted to men, women, anD I'D PROBABLY DATE A TRANS PERSON TOO maybe PLS GIVE ME BROWNIE QUEERNESS POINTS SO I CAN UPGRADE MY ALLY BADGES
Now, you decide which group you'd rather be affiliated with.
Truth is pansexual as an identity was created by people who demonize bisexuals as transphobic. Sorry, but genderfluidity is bullshit. No one in the professional world recognizes it. If you're trans, you identify as the OPPOSITE gender from your assigned.
TLDR: 2 genders exist. Many variations on the two biological sexes exist (various intersex conditions. Sexuality is a spectrum. End of discussion.
Different conceptualizations of the same behavior, generally. "Bisexual" is probably socially easier, "Pansexual" is often more accurate and I think a better way of thinking through and describing attraction.
What sort of bifag is going to categorically shut down their attraction to someone because they find out they don't ID as cis?
It's important to remember all this is just ways of talking about things. "The map is not the territory." Use the map that makes sense to feel through and share your life.
Name a gender identification that isn't just a remix of male and/or female, and is interested in having sex.
Wait, you can't, because it doesn't exist. Ergo, if you're bisexual and not attracted to 'genderqueer' then you're 'bisexual but don't like genderqueer people'. Adding extra words to describe the same thing detracts from legitimacy, it doesn't add to it.
So, I don't get why tumblrinas are into the whole "pansexuality" thing because to be it seems transphobic. A reasonable bisexual person probably already includes trans people in there, because they already SEE them as the gender they are. Pansexuality seems to just separate them out as something else entirely. So by their own logic, aren't they being shitty by claiming pansexuality is a thing?
I've honestly never seen anybody who wasn't a teenager take this shit seriously and I use tumblr fairly heavily as an art platform. Is this actually as big of a thing as people say? Maybe I just don't folllow the mentally ill people or something