Non Passing Gen

>tfw don't pass yet but have feminine proportions and can afford FFS so not really worried

>tfw nobody will ever love you and everyone you try to love is only pushed away

>>5459668
tfw

>>5459665
Hey, awesome. Post pictures.

>>5459671
looks like the first trip fag shitter is here

good luck gen

hey

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prove you don't pass :^]

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>>5459703

>>5459710
based sheen

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>18
>No make-up
>Pre-everything

>tfw no money
>tfw not even ffs can save you

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>>5459703
literally just put on some makeup

>>5459703
Pictures are scary though

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>>5459724
k

>>5459728
>>5459703
Reeeee get out passer

>>5459712
how?
I'm just a mess
a delusional man who will never find happyness

>not even ten replies before people that know they pass shit up the place

Seriously dont know why you keep trying to make these, it happens every time

>>5459703
>>5459728
>lol, i did it again

Dont you already get enough attention in mtfg, cunt?

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>>5459763
>>5459883
>>5459885
Having non passing threads is dumb, just like having passing only threads is dumb.

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>>5459900
how big is you penis bae, nice dubs btw

>>5459900

Well of course someone that constantly flaunts their fortune like you is going to feel that way

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>>5459900
WITNESSED

>>5459885
All women are whores, tripfags are the biggest of whores.
So of course passing tripfags will end up here.

>>5459885
Fiy, hardly anyone replies to her inane posts there, so numbnuts has to try harder elsewhere

>tfw when all hormones have done so far is make me look younger and a bit more fem
>tfw young women now hit on me regularly
>only interested in guys tho

Could be worse but I will probably need ffs.

Testosterone

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>at the bus station FINALLY leaving my bigoted hometown and heading to LA
>bus breaks down before pickup
>rescheduled for tomorrow

Welp. Time to burn it all.

>>5460362
No. My plan is to go straight to the LGBT center and get help. Hope it works

>>5459665
>tfw in "straight" relationship where we're both gender fluid with our dominant gender being the opposite to our biological.
>tfw our families have no idea.
>tfw we both used to be able to just pass
>tfw we're nearly 30 now so we don't pass any more.

>>5459665
I did it. I booked a consultation with Dr Bart.
I'll still always be a 6ft hon, though.

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>>5460434
>forgot pic

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>>5460434
>>5460439
>mfw no amazon trans gf to snoo snoo me to death

>>5459900
you're dumb, and also a humble-bragging bitch

>take guitar to shop
>clerk is very uncomfortable in my presence
>I just want my shit fixed
Come on man get it together

>>5460399
That's kind of romantic

>>5459665
Stop making random tranny generals pls
You already have /thg/, /mtfg/ and /tlg/

>>5460162
Wow that's like my life. I need ffs too but its scary cause I'm not fulltime

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My kind of thread

>tfw nobody even considers me remotely feminine
Long hair should solve this...r-right?

>>5461101
You don't have to be 100% feminine

>>5460399

That's hot

>>5461111
but not even remotely
i really wanted someone to notice that i'm on HRT, one way or another, i really wanted someone to look at me and say wow you look different, i don't even want to be qt, i just want to be different and feminine, yet nobody notices anything, even when i say something jokingly like "damn don't you think i look different/younger" they say nah bruh you look pretty normal, just as you always were

>>5461207
Oh, hey anon! You look different! Kinda more... like a girl?

>>5460808
This board was made for traps. Fuck off you entitled faggot, nobody loves you.

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Literally kill me now. 18 and still in the closet. Sorry for background, home for the holidays and I don't trust you cunts.
Do I even have any hope?

>>5462072
Post side view..

You look exactly like my friend who was passing in boymode, so much that her deep voice and remnant mustache stubble still had people gendering her female
... she still hides her boobs and thinks she doesn't pass :(
I'm curious of your brow... so, side view?

>>5461071
Oh look, attention whore is attention whoring on an attention whoring bird because her irl friends/family got tired of rubbing her ass with praise icing and now hate talking to her because she only talks about trans stuff and how she looks after ffs.

Check em bitch

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>>5462218
All women are whores, nothing to see here.
Move along.

>>5462072
Why does everyone always look like a nerd. I am starting to be convinced that being trans is caused by low test. Rarely do I see alpha chad jocks on here asking if they will pass. Anyway I think you will do fine because you have a weak jaw and round eyes.

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>>5462257
Me pre-mones

>>5462257
'ω' how can you be a girl with high test?

(Sounds like those radio commercials I hear about LOW T. Born with testickes and feeling girly? Get on the RIGHT hormone treatment!)

Sexist pieces of shit

how do I approach a girl at college I know is trans? She lives in my building and I see her all the time, I just want to talk to someone else like me.

>>5462280
Handsome but there's a lot of sad pain behind those eyes :(

>>5462257
Trans women are usually nerds pre-transition because that's what happens to effeminate and timid boys. The exception is mainly if they're flamboyant faggots pre-transition

>>5462305
I mean, that was last december. Lol. I started in march

>tfw not passing

>>5462342
>tfw when not passing so no guys are into me

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>>5462360
>iktf :(

>>5462311
Update pic!!! XD

>>5461552
this is what i dream every night

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>>5462491
But this is no pass gen and I'm omw to passing by my year mark :(

I already posted in pass gen. Check there

Here's a washed out teaser but this'll be the last pic I post for another 2 months on here... just for you anon ;D

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>>5462218
You seem very sad

I wasn't attention whoring

I've hit kind of an abnormal snag.

>clocked mtf when trying to pass female
>clocked ftm when trying to pass male
>get told I look like a girl with facial hair
>shave
>get told I look like a man

I don't pass as ANYTHING.

>>5459703
>>5459728
>>5459724
You always look so good, i wish you werent shitposting tho

>>5462072
18? Yes, you have hope
Im 23 and in closet. Lol

We should all just an hero desu senpai.

>>5462882
I bet you're sexy as fuck though.

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>>5462200
>You look exactly like my friend who was passing in boymode, so much that her deep voice and remnant mustache stubble still had people gendering her female
Really? Maybe dreams do come true...here's side view without the glasses. My fingers are crossed!
>>5462257
Thanks...I guess? I mean, look at Jenner or all those navy seals/ex-mil types who transition later in life. They seem high-test enough for you?

>>5463631
So I've been told? People like andro faces.

Anyone over 6' here?

>>5462917
abby?? abby looks like a man. not quite like kayla or lalalilly, but pretty close.

>>5463687
6'4", passing = never.

>>5463687
Exactly 6'0", do I count?

hi cis dude here
this is a serious question
can you girls produce breast milk?
I'm asking because this guy can and I well it made me wonder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCv-17HcuME

>>5463704
Probably, yeah. Tittie skittles (HRT) increases the amount of breast tissue you have, and since that's what produces milk, just about any transgirl who's been on hormones long enough should be able to produce milk

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tfw

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>>5463735

>>5463702
Sure why not

>>5463689
Possible to just take pills and never tell anybody? That's what I'm looking at

>>5463721
Most breast tissue isn't involved in lactation, and breast size doesn't indicate a greater ability to produce milk. It's a different hormone (prolactin) that causes lactation than what MTFs generally take. Female hormones might make induced lactation easier, I'm not sure, but you don't need to be on HRT in order to induce lactation.

That said, at least when your breasts are growing you're likely to be able to secrete a clear liquid, but it's not milk so it isn't lactation. (It tastes nice though.)

>>5463740
Yeah, that's basically what I'm doing, although I'm still delusional enough to believe that I might get to the point where I look respectable enough in girlmode, even if I woudln't pass.

>>5463735
Arent you from /gaygen/ ?
That said you still look more like a girl than anyone else
Especially >>5459710

>>5459843
>a delusional man who will never find happyness
it shows

>>5463659
Ofuq, yeah, you gonna pass

>>5463738
>>5462577
>>5461071
>>5459703
>>5459728
you all pass
get the fuck out

>>5463783
I'm not actually trans, cis male

>>5463788
and you still fucking pass

>>5463794
whoops

>>5463794
you sound salty

>>5463788
Nice eyebrows hitler

>>5463803
i'm jealous more than anything
goddamit why can't everyone look the same. why do we have to have rolled a dice for genetics to look like a total shit

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>>5463764
Reeeeeally? Thank you so much! I can't describe how good it feels to hear that.

>>5463826
Reality is a cruel DM.

>>5463742
Ah well, thanks for the correction! no wonder I barely passed my anatomy course. That's pretty interesting too

>>5463809
thanks

>>5463625
Eh, it seems like the logical thing to do.

>>5459714
you are qt dont hrt pls we need cuteboys not tranny fucks

>>5464104
It's not like gender dysphoria is a choice.

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>>5459710
smile

>>5464157
#wow #whoa

>>5463753
Don't be so rude about this cheeky princess >>5464157
She's a #1 Hun xoxo

Tfw some days face looks good and think I'm going to pass soonish but other times I just think I'll never pass.

>>5464232
Kk.

>>5464271
tfw having a nice day and catch your reflection at a horribly unflattering angle in a window pane

>>5463788
Nice try hitler we've all seen your transition timeline

>>5464281
I'm all natty man, bby

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>>5463738
sorry gurl but you don't pass.

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>>5464301

how do you deal with the stares senpai?

>>5464288
We can't all be sperg master race.

>>5464320
me in the middle

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>>5464104
>Letting social constructs like gender and attractiveness run your life is a very illogical thing.

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>>5464104
>social constructs like gender

I thought this thread was going to be a safe space and then I saw all of these passers. Is there somewhere where people that don't pass but aren't
>you look great, hon
can post without tripfriends, etc

>>5464397
There's a difference between gender and gender roles, m8.

>>5464397
that's gender roles.

>>5464398
she used to work at a lumberyard

>>5459728
you look weird, you must be a slav

>>5464393
I wish 4chan allowed us to vote ban trips. they could obviously continue to post under anonymous though

>>5464397
even if everything's a social construct it doesn't mean it doesn't matter or affect a person anyway

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Every time I see this thread in the catalog I die a little more inside
;_;

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>>5464441
>literal sheeple.
onion discarbed :DDDDDD

>>5460362
My plan is to head to Portland too. It would be nice to do it with trans friends if you wanted to talk

Could I pass with:

weight: 115lb
height: 5'7"
shoulders: 39"
chest: 31.5"
waist: 26"
hips: 32"

(pre hormones & in uk)

>>5466567
Shoulders seem kinda broad, everything else seems fine

>>5464458
why?
you're jealous of all the constant drama and the
>tfw no gf
happenning in these threads?

>>5466571
Yeah thats mainly what I'm worried about.

>>5466567
>being tiny and thinking you won't pass
f u c k y o u
u
c
k

y
o
u

>>5459703
homely but pass I guess
>>5463738
pretty but more andro

>>5462577
hard to tell

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>>5466567
Unless your face looks like this, yes.

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>>5459703
Kill me please

I pass to black people and they hit on me like 3 times a week at least but i dont pass to white people. They give me weird looks all the damn time. Also had a fat mexican manlet basically tell me he clocked me. My mannerisms and energy are totally female as well while my voice is meh but at least better than gay guy tier.

http://m.imgur.com/iwNepOn,7RuEnZr
The standard of appearance and voice you have to meet to pass is absurd. It is way way hard. Ive given up hope of ever not getting weird mildly disgusted stares until i get a lot of money

>>5470011
D-do you like trans guys?

>>5470011
Ehhhh, ya I can see why you get glares.
You're attractive, but obviously not female.

>>5470011
Are you sure people aren't just checking you out?
Also:
B O S T O N
O
S
T
O
N

>>5470029
I've never dated a trans guy but if he was qt and I liked his personality and stuff I don't see why not

>>5470011
yo yo holla at me gurl mmh

>>5470035
Thankfully its not usually glares cause I live in a cool area, it's mostly just people getting the uncanny valley because they aren't used to seeing people like me.
But yeah I think a lot of people conflate me being attractive with me passing. Im grateful for looking good presenting femme but dysphoria is still a bitch.

>>5470048
What type of stuff do you like?

Here's me from a bunch of months ago
http://imgur.com/TBcyLIo

>>5470075
Youre hot, post contact id love to talk more

Tfw totally stealth transgirl who now laughs at ugly nonpassing freaks

>>5470079

does anyone else get extremely angry when you posts where people much shorter, smaller, or younger than you complain about being too tall, big, or old to ever pass?

>>5470217
see*

>>5459728
You pass with flying colors. Get out.

>>5470075
tfw no Ftm bf
;_;

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Hey everyone, it's been awhile since I've been here, and i'm like 99% sure it's a different trip and like no one knew me anyways so hello I am kat and I'm coming out in like 4 days but I don't pass so this will be fun

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>>5464441

Holy shit trannies are pretty much the worst people. None of you work and come up with all sorts of excuses. All of you are massive attention whores. I can't fucking stand mtfs anymore. I can't stand my life anymore. Are any of you actually dysphoric? Everyone seems to have no problem jerkimv off on cam. Am i the only trans, or is trans just a code word for pay_attention_to_me_pls disorder. Get a job you lazy fucks. Care about those around you. Mostly fucking die because you're one of the worst demographics I've had the displeasure of knowing. Niggers are better people than you.

>>5471197
Awwwww cry for me i don't pass. I've never left the fucking house and made an effort but please feel sorry for me. I jerk off on /d/ all day but I'm totally dysphoric you guys. I top random fuckers on Craigslist and backspace but my dysphoria is crippling. Please buy me a courier skin because my life that i put 0 effort into is wretched.

Most of you fucks come from 100k+ a year households and are just spoiled brats looking for more entitlement because that's what you think being a girl means.

>>5463735
>>5463738
Prettiest girl in all of /lgbt/.

>>5471303
>Most of you fucks come from 100k+ a year households and are just spoiled brats
>the only statistics I need is MUH FEELS

>>5459710
Hey, I remember you. I'm sorry about you transitioning late and all, but you've shaped up better than I thought.

Get out of 4chan, this place isn't healthy for you.

>>5461207
If they don't know that you're transitioning then they are going to be polite or oblivious. If they know and are supportive they are going to comment on your progress. In other words it's your own damn fault.

Presentation helps a lot, do grow your hair longer.

>>5462072
>still in the closet.
No sympathy from me

meh...measurements are so fucking stupid

im
122lbs (lean af cuz i work-out)
5'3''
shoulders are 16''
bust is 33''
underbust is 29.5
waist is 26.5
hips 34

and i dont pass.

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>>5470217

>guhh how will I ever pass when 5'11''

I'm almost 23 and 6'3'' and all I can say is ayy lmao

>>5470011
Same thing happens to me. Black people seem to think I'm a girl and iv gotten hit on or catcalled multiple times. But I never pass to white people

>>5471429
Nigga, I make that much a year turning wrenches and being a sparkly pixie bad ass amongst mongoloid boys.

Speak for yourself.

Blood sweat alcoholism tears

Now that's a successful tran.

>>5470959
Pic plox?

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what's going on everybody ?

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>>5471977
like me visually

>>5472178
why not get ffs so you stop looking like eminem?

>tfw this is the body I will have to put up with for decades to come and the only body I will have my whole lif
>tfw will never look like this
http://an-andreja-pejic-blog.tumblr.com/post/136335997463/favorite-andreja-things-2015-5-andreja-started

>>5472233
cause I like how I look and FFS seems like a waste of money to me

>>5472518
>tfw don't like how I look

>worry about passing constantly
>never actually been misgendered/harassed/questioned about it in public

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Thoughts? Not sure if I pass or not...I feel like I'm borderline yes/no.

>tfw cant even tell what men and women are supposed to look like anymore because you never go outside
i have no idea if i look feminine or not

>>5472741
You look super androgynous[spoiler] and cute[/spoiler].

>>5472741
Good potential, get your eyebrows done, grow out your hair, keep your skin and lips moisturized, and get some women's glasses.

>>5472741
No, you do not pass. That angle is one I use all the time to boost my self esteem when I want to momentarily look like I could potentially one day possibly pass in a darkly lit room. Show us a picture looking slightly left or right no smile no wide eyed curious glances. But thats what this thread is for, non-passing freaks like myself and you, you fucking kike.

>>5472518
then why call yourself ugly?

>>5472838
Post pic

>>5473234
well cause I don't fulfil societies beauty standards as soft butch

>>5473282
who cares what society thinks?
if you're happy then why worry?

>>5473179
Much anger, such darkness. YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE! YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BRING HAPPINESS TO THE TRANNIES, NOT SHAME THEM!

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Impromptu picture, no angles (though I shot it from the side which I saw somebody say you should do)

Now, obviously I don't pass. I'm full boymode and am in the closet. I personally think my problems are really shitty eyes (hell im pretty sure one is lazy), formless hair, and acne. As far as acne goes, this is actually a really large improvement from only a few months ago, I also got some new cream so I imagine it'll be better than just trying to be super clean.

Oh and my hair was way cuter last night, it's like 50/50 on whether or not it'll be trash

>>5473411
are you on hormones?

>>5473427
No

>>5473361
not worrying
just saying that by societies standards I'm ugly
and yet I'm happy

>>5473445
hrt will get rid of your acne, your facial fat will redistribute giving you fuller lips and making your eyes look larger so you'll probably be fine once on hrt

>>5473461
but you're not though, women being a little bit butch is seen as 'androgynous' and 'hot' these days
you're only ugly by, like, pre-1980s standards
if you were hard butch maybe I'd understand but no

>>5473461
you're ugly by all standards, not just "societies". you look like a confused man

>>5473490
are you kidding? she's a super dyke

>>5473519
look, I hate her personality, even if it's 'just her online persona', as much as the next person, but I can't reasonably say that she doesn't look good now, heck, she was only average to begin with, nothing shocking

>>5473461
Larry you try to look like a tomboy i guess, but instead you look like a huge faggot. You got a ffs some years ago right ? What a fucking way to waste it Larry, you ruined it all.

>>5473411
>>5459714
why do cute boys do this? You guys already look AMAZING! Shits just like matthew keading... He was a legit AAA twink porn star. Sure, hes kinda cute as a dick-girl, but he was so much cuter as a boy.

>>5473599
never had ffs lmao
>years ago
how long do you think I'm on hrt o_0
>>5473519
k
das lik
u r obinon m7
>>5473490
idk tbqh
would put me somewhere in the soft butch category but tastes differ

>>5472741
Damn gurl, trim those eyebrows
you're pretty tho ;)

>>5473732
because we'd rather be girls forever than cute boy for 5 years

>>5463735
>hitler's finally going to transition

http://strawpoll.me/6416308/

would you rather we be represented by someone we're miserably jealous of or someone we're embarrassed by?

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>>5474869
>http://strawpoll.me/6416308/
>no Lynn Conway

>>5474869
Who is dollface and why is she so popular?

>>5474892
she's a moderately internet-famous trans camgirl who trips on /lgbt/ often and used to be a /b/ regular years and years ago

she fucked the comedian sam hyde, has a reputation for being kind of fetishistic and incredibly shallow and throwing men away like garbage almost weekly

>>5475061
Translation: He's a Christian in a dress who tells stories and who nobody but pedophiles gives a shit about.

>>5466597
well at least real lesbians have a chance at fixing >no gf

>>5471540
16 is kind of wide for 5'3 imho lad. what's the circumference?

>>5472518
if you think FFS is a waste of money you really don't belong in this thread fampai

>>5474869
>http://strawpoll.me/6416308/

No Camen Carrera?

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>>5459703

>>5475093
>no gf
don't have to be cis to get a gf
>ffs
for me personally it is a waste of money
because I like my face
for others ffs can indeed be the most important and helpful thing ever
just not for me

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>bro took the picture at our family nye

Good I hate my sad face. Corners of my lips are going down when I'm not smiling and when I'm smiling a look completely ridiculous.

>>5459703
dude-ish
>>5459714
cute boy, nothing girly about you
>>5459728
>dat hairline
clearly a dude
>>5461071
I would believe this is a girl
>>5462072
Are you trying to pass as boy? There is nothing indicating this might be girl. YOu have facial hair for fucks sake.
>>5462280
perfectly fine boy
>>5463735
another normal boy
>>5469882
look bit like faggot, but definitely a dude
>>5472741
look like something between a girl and boy. I would probably have to a closer look, but the facial features are manly.
>>5473411
Perfectly normal cute boy. Nothing girly about him.>>5463783 is delusional, only one person here passes as girl, and that is only face, i bet his hips and feet would give him away.

>>5476025
no but your chances become exponentially smaller. and then again if you don't pass. and then again if you were >no gf all your life

>for me personally it is a waste of money
that's fine but then you really don't belong in /npg/
>>5476035
you don't belong either

>>5476249
looks ain't everything tho
>you don't belong here
>>5463688 summoned me tho

>>5476260
>looks ain't everything tho
that doesn't invalidate anything I said

>>5476035
I'm not into girls but I stopped while skimming the first page to admire. If you can look qt in a candid photo, you're doing damn well.

>>5476035
you pass though

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>>5476350
>>5476249
>>5476407
>you pass

No to myself. pic related.

Sure I look good in some photos from distance. And all strangers go 'she' by default. But if you take a good look at me you'll see that I don't look anything like an average girl.

>>5476445
>And all strangers go 'she' by default
>not passing
seriously, what?

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>>5459703
One day...
I was called miss though last night though

>>5472741
I always get so angry when i see your face, its just argh your face is so punchable

Ya'll gotta ditch this internalized transphobia

>>5476527
I feel so fucking bad for the huge number of people posting on legbutts who clearly fucking despise themselves for being trans. Personally though I mostly come here to use that as a mirror into myself to help me work through my own shit. Sad cases can keep hating themselves and each other if they like but it's only making me stronger and happier in the long term.

>>5476445
eh you'd pass as a 7/10 in britain
no supermodel but entirely within female range for jaw, brow etc.
profile pic? maybe you're right from the side, but from the front you pass as an average-looking female

>>5476527
>"just b urself"
trip on edie

>>5476469
They are strangers, they see me for less than 5 minutes. Stay longer and they will figure out.

Seriously look at my photo and say with a straight face that I pass as a girl.

>>5476573
you pass as a girl
your sense of self-image is just fucked from dysphoria

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>>5476556
>as a 7/10 in britain
huh I keep hearing that and I really should just move to the west.

>>5476573
what >>5476580 says is what ill say too, you definitely pass as a girl, its just dysphoria that doesnt let you see it for yourself

>>5476601
yeah your profile is definitely a lot rougher and could do with your nose and chin being rounded down but honestly, that would serve mainly to make you more attractive rather than more passing; probably only a 5 or 6/10 female with this profile mind to be totally honest but you don't look unattractive in a "that woman looks like a man" way, just a "eh" way and could totally pass as an anglo-saxon-genes UK woman in her late 30s, what's your actual age?

>>5476601
get a rhinoplasty done and you're golden, honestly, especially if you're over 25

>>5476625
This would mean I may have body dysmorphic disorder and no surgery would help me to stop me feel this way.

>>5476633
>what's your actual age?
27

>>5476658
yeah you look a little older than you are but it's a look that works
I agree you could probably do with a nosejob though but everything else looks seriously fine, rhinoplasty is comparatively cheap anyway, at least in Europe, at least you don't need full FFS

>>5464782
>>5460362

pls stay out if you don't pass or at least look respectable, I cant take any more chris-chan clones and "non-binaries (it/they/freak)" making me look bad.

>>5462072
Trip on bexe

Reminder that life is pointless and we're all going to die anyway so if you think you'll never pass now it's easier to just kill yourself immediately than to spend years suffering for very little gain

>>5478343
I think by that logic it makes even more sense to transition, you'll die anyway so fuck it just dress how you want and try to make this existence as comfortable as possible.

>>5478376
but when it barely does anything except make you a total outcast and you look like a freak with barely any decrease in dysphoria is it even worth bothering? it hasn't been worth it for me, I just feel like I've put off the inevitable for a little while longer and it's made the process of existence even more painful and drawn-out than necessary

>>5476650
Pretty much
The only time I was remotely gendered female was when I was wearing a hat and big eyed sunglasses and some guy saw my tits when walking in the bathroom. He double checked the signs before re-entering. I blushed and laughed as I walked out.

I have c cups, yet: wearing a push up with crazy amounts of cleavage, pretty clothes, and we'll done minimal makeup (just lip gloss, eyeliner, and mascara... Which looks better than going all out on me imo) STILL gets me gend3red make every fucking time. I have black guys check me out and start to make monkey whooping noises, usually followed by (wuh dah fuggh nigga) as they get good enough in passing to see my features.

>>5476527
fuck off

>>5478376
how is going out in public like a woman despite looking like a chimeric freak making existence comfortable?

>>5479101
>>5478400
If dressing like a girl relives dysphoria then it's comforting, no? Also I don't know how you can have this "fuck it" philosophy and still care what people think about you. Most people should work on getting over this whether they're trans or not, you let other people's silly opinions decide if you want to live the life you want to live.

>>5479256
Hollup I phrased that weirdly; you let other peole's silly opinions decide if you will live the life you want to live.

>>5479256
it's not just "silly opinions" though, it's the difference between being scared of being intimidated, beaten up or shanked or something in public or being safe, or between employment and unemployment, or homelessness and unaccepted by friends and family or the opposite, that's kind of a major part of the issue of being trans aside from the internal depression etc., if you pass (and are attractive) it makes life far easier

also dressing like a girl only relieves dysphoria if it doesn't make you look like even more of a freak

the philosophy I have is less "fuck it" and more "oh god, make the pain stop as quickly as possible" like those infamous plants that cause such intense pain if you touch them that some people kill themselves within 30 seconds of being stung

>>5479101
The sad truth is, most ppl don't give a shit about you and have enough of their own problems to deal with than worry about you. If you really want to realize your total insignificance in other ppls lives, then get dressed up and see how little effect you have on others. If you're an ugly fat trans woman that dresses like a bag lady, then it's even easier to not get noticed.

>>5479339
as somebody who has been chased by a gang of 7 ~15 year olds down the street shouting "freak", "tranny", "that's a man" etc. when I was just trying to carry my shopping home, I disagree, plenty of people will aggressively and sometimes violently assert how much they hate how you look and how subhuman you appear to them if you don't look normal enough

>>5479279
I guess it depends on where you live, if you live in a place where that is a very real possibility then I can understand not wanting to transition, but I feel like moving to a liberal city is a lot better than killing yourself. Hell most liberal cities will put you in a position to live a better life than if you were "cis". Every left wing retard is willing to hire a tranny even if they are completely inept. But yeah I'm sorry for assuming your position in life, I forgot parts of this world can be extremely bigoted.

>dressing like a girl only relieves dysphoria if it doesn't make you look like even more of a freak

I don't know what to say desu senpai. I'm not a therapist and I don't know how you would go about dealing with your blatant depression.

>the philosophy I have is less "fuck it" and more "oh god, make the pain stop as quickly as possible"

Yeah you were just putting off more of a nihlist vibe with the "life is pointless and we're all going to die anyway".

>>5479369
Thats pretty sad you can't handle teenagers yelling at you.

>>5479279
>>5479378
To add on to this though, I really do wish you the best of luck in life, and that you don't end up killing yourself. I likely won't ever talk to you again because of anonymity and such, but I hope I'm not unknowingly looking at you when I read a suicide statistic.

>>5479378
>just move to a completely different city on the other side of the country with precious little life experience to date
do you have any idea of the money and other resources that requires, even if I did know where to move to that would fit the definition?

>I don't know what to say desu senpai. I'm not a therapist and I don't know how you would go about dealing with your blatant depression.
what's incorrect about my point? sure, I'm depressed, but it's pretty clear why and it's staring at me out of the mirror

>Yeah you were just putting off more of a nihlist vibe with the "life is pointless and we're all going to die anyway".
That was more of a pre-emptive retort to the "b-but suicide is bad and wrong, just live in agonising misery til you're ~80!"-posters

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>>5479404
We don't know how many of them there were. Once you reach enough kids you're eventually going to get taken down by a lucky shot as they swarm you, or just plain run out of stamina.

>>5479404
they were carrying rocks, big ones, they were chavs too so they could easily have been armed for all I knew, it sounds funny until you're in that situation and don't know how far they're gonna go with it

>>5479418
I probably will this year, but you have a pleasant amount of empathy so well done on that

>>5479256
>>5479339
I honestly don't see how parading around looking like a man in a dress can possibly relieve dysphoria. I don't get the tumblry
>I'M A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN Y'ALL SHITLORDS BETTER DEAL WITH IT
attitude

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>>5459665
Anons tell me I'm a ugly hon and that I'll never pass. Can I post in here?

>>5480680
You would. You look great.

>>5480680
Look male as fuck. Only female looking thing is the hair

what is it about FTMs who still insist on having long hair and shit?
>>5480680

>>5480680
>>5481118
I mean..you would obviously pass if you just cut your hair like a normal man

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>>5459703
tfw

>>5481164
What with the people that are super cute posting here?

>>5481178
Attention whoring ass holes fishing for compliments and hoping they get told to leave. Complete scum that should die

>>5475093
>16 is kind of wide for 5'3 imho lad. what's the circumference?

41''

Not sure if I measured correctly but it should be about that one inch more or less.

>>5481178
they're not pretty enough for anywhere else so they post here and as a bonus get to be the prettiest.

>>5476041
why are you so mean

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>people used to mistake me for a girl from time to time growing up
>I eventually grew up to be 6'3''

Well, I probably wouldn't have got enough courage to transition anyway.

Does anyone else feel like giggling a little every time they press the "bottom" button or is it just me?

>>5489161
No, you are not alone

>>5462072
YES you're fine unless you've been on HRT a long time.

>>5485749
Girls can be really tall occasionally; is there something else about you that makes you think you wouldn't pass?

>>5470011

i wish i looked that good. adorable

>>5481178
they think they are being clever, but they're just stupid and offer nothing.

>>5481317
they're just trolling

>>5481331
maybe, a decent photo is no guarantee they do well irl

god damn the people in this thread a fucking vicious.

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>>5489853
Shoulders are somewhat wide as well.

>tfw t didn't deepen your voice that much and you sound 12

>>5481178
I think you need better glasses, or better standards.

>>5491779
lol too much porn? Most of people here looks just fine. No all of them pass but they look ok.

>>5481118
I thought >>5480680 was mtf?

>>5494757
Yes, CFH is (or at least I'd assume since she posts a lot in trans les gen); I guess that makes this kind of a compliment?
>>5481118

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>>5490804
Claim you're a swimmer, maybe?

>>5481178
Where are the cute ones? Did they delete their posts?

>>5462305
Nah all gingers look like that

>>5459947
>All women are whores
but that's not a woman?