Reloading Thread

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6.6gr of Autocomp
124gr Berry's Thick Plated (THICC) RNHBP
Winchester Small Pistol primers

Cartridge Overall Length = 1.1685

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I load summers 200 gr lswc over 5.6 of hp38.

Shoots nice man.

>>35138449

Nice. Damn, the XL650 with out the strong mount is compact!

I might switch to that if I end up bringing the SL900 up from the shore house and mounting it to the bench.

>>35138248
Berrys? That shit was horrible last time I used it couple years ago. Moved to coated anyway.

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>>35138540

I've had pretty good results. This is at 50ft, just offhand.

I'm getting a chrono next week so I can verify that I'm at major power factor.

The extra thick plate ones are rated up to 1600fps - and they're 2 to 3 cents cheaper per projectile than Montana Gold when they were on sale at Midway.

I'm continually monitoring my barrel, compensator and targets to watch for signs that the plating is coming off, but so far so good.

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Just today made some 200 rounds for pistol and some 50 slug shells for my 12 gauge, to finish a can of powder.

9 x 21mm , that is. Yes I'm euro.

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>>35138605
pic of my peestol rounds

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Loaded some 6.5 mememoor today.

>>35138605

Nice. There's a competitor that I shoot with in the northeast who shoots 9x21. I help pick up his brass because he's in super senior division and it's got to be a pain in the ass to keep in stock to reload compared to 9mm

>>35138218
Nice to see a reloading thread, is it viable to reload 12 gauge shells with blackpowder?
Also, just for shits and giggles, is there any way to make homemade primers?

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>>35138218
Mostly 168 amax, but i got some mousegun fodder i want to try getting to soon

>>35138721
Yes

but not by conventional means, and results are utter shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTf62hDhefY&t=210s

What is the cheapest possible revolver caliber to reload for?

>>35138750

They're all really cheap because it's easy to save the brass.

38 special is pretty cheap and lots of good revolvers to pick from.

>>35138750
My bets are on cast bullets .38 special. should be on par with 9mm

>>35138750
9mm probably. Essentially free brass, cast your or cheap in bulk, doesnt use much powder

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>>35138218
I've been loading some 357....I need to load a bunch of 500 but I'm waiting on a new powder scale to show up

>>35138218
What are the current price per round for plinking ammo when you reload 9mm and .223 and/or 5.56?

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What do you do while loading your ammo?
I usually pop in some ASMR by headphones, or watch some Steve1989 if he has something new.

Also i fucking LOVE loadin ammo when outside rains and there's nothing else to do. Low, warm light on the reloading bench and oh boy here we go.

>>35138738
>The C4m3r0n

What's that?

>>35138493
Strong mount and a bigger bench is next on the list. Reloading while seated right now. It's convenient but it kills my back.

Would like to build a bench big enough to set up two presses, one for 45 and one for 9.

Gotta free up a room or build in the garage. Kinda leery of setting up in the garage because it gets humid as fuck.

>>35138813

I load 9mm plinking ammo for $0.12/round if I am buying the brass. Probably about $0.09 with brass that I pick up.

I don't remember exactly what I am loading 5.56x45mm for - but it was about the same price as steel cased.

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I went from knowing literally nothing about reloading to cranking out .4 MOA groups with handloads in 2 weeks.


Now I'm just finishing load development for a 6mm Creedmoor varmint round. 87gr VMAX going 3100 fps is going to be godly on sage rats.

>>35138861

Yeah humidity will make stuff on the press pit and corrode. I have a setup at the shore that is in a garage and stuff is pitted and a bit of corrosion after 20 years. It doesn't impact anything but I like loading in my home because it's air conditioned :)

>>35138894
It's tempting to get into if 9mm is about that cheap. I'd like to be able to reload 300blk, but I don't shoot it nearly enough to justify the setup for just it.

>>35138843
Portable reloading bench.
Well build, very rigid. Allows a reloading setup that doesnt need dedicated space

New to reloading, cant decide what company to go with was looking at a dillon 550 or 650 i really want to load a wide range of common calibers quickly and effortlessly. Help please

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no one likes sideways pictures.... 125gr .357 mag vs 500gr .500 S&W

>>35138972
Thats how kbs happen.

>>35138972

Dillon 650 with a casefeeder. If you're looking to load multiple calibers quickly, without a a doubt. I load at about a rate of 600 rounds per hour.

It's more expensive than a 550, but the auto-indexing is a must have for me.

Then again the 550c can be upgraded with a case feeder and there's a lot of people that just buy a 550 per caliber and leave it set up for that caliber.

Depends on your situation - worst case if you go with a 550c you can sell it for like 80% of its retail value to someone else - super easy

>>35139017
im trying to save money, how hard is it to switch calibers out on a 650?also i swear i read somewhere that some case feeders void warranty for the 650? idk i just remember something was missing from near full automation on those "obviously still requiring hand cranking"

>>35138967
Does that shit actually work well? I got a Hornady LNL AP for my birthday and I have yet to set it up because I don't have a sturdy workbench. Can I realistically set it up on the cameron and not have to bolt the cameron to anything else? The lnl ap is like 20 lbs by itself, I'm agraid the whole setup will tip over when I pull the lever. If I have to bolt the cameron to something it really defeats the purpose.

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I'm over here with a single stage press cranking away like a filthy mud peasant while ya'll over here with some Dillons sipping mint juleps while the auto case ejaculator does all the work for you

Building a new reloading bench.

Using a inline mfg interchangeable press mount, and 2 sets of miter track rails.

The press plate allows for quick swapping between my single stages and progressives. The miter track is so i can quick moubt and positiob accessories like my powder thrower ect.

>>35139091
at least you have a reloading set up

>>35139063
You can it up with ballast, easily clamp it onto another table too.

>>35139038
>im trying to save money,

You're in the wrong sport friend.

> how hard is it to switch calibers out on a 650?

I have toolheads set up for each caliber. Probably about 2 minutes to change a toolhead and shellplate if it doesn't require a change in primer size (small vs. large primer). Probably 15 minutes for a full conversion from one caliber to another when that also requires a primer size change since I haven't purchased a second primer system assembly yet. Probably down to 5 when I get the second assembly.

>also i swear i read somewhere that some case feeders void warranty for the 650?

You might be thinking of the autodrives for the 650. Case feeder has been integral for decades.

>idk i just remember something was missing from near full automation on those "obviously still requiring hand cranking"

Right, that's the autodrive systems, like the Mark 7

Haven't actually reloaded anything in probably close to a year. Sitting on a few thousand .40 and .45 right now.
Been casting and swaging though.

>>35139063
Yeah you need a bench. My 650 with case feeder is mounted on a heavy desk, pictured above.

Desk is plenty heavy, then park a few thousand projectiles on it and it isn't going anywhere.

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>>35138841
When I'm working brass over, I take it over to my computer and listen to music or watch documentaries. When I'm actually putting putting it all together though I like it quite so I can concentrate and not do something stupid like double charge.

>>35139114
so if i get a 650, everything will be automated aside from me cranking the leaver? Is there anything else you would recommend or that i should get? Shooting is expensive as fuck but I make do, however cant buy several 550's for each caliber....

>>35139153
Honestly it comes down to what calibers you want to load if it worth spending the money for that kind of setup. Ammo prices have tanked compared to the last couple years so if you aren't reclaiming brass it almost isn't worth loading smaller stuff

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>>35138701
Yes, for pistol and rifle you can, commonly people use armstrongs mixture although it is corrosive. Alternatively I know Winchester uses water-soluble primers in their .22 rimfire cartridges, bit more work but it won't be corrosive.

Vid related:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qXnwuNegPaY

Pic related is good for powder and priming compound as it's cheaper than regular .22 ammo.

>>35139177
I keep all my brass, tons of .308 some 5.56, tons of 9mm, some 45acp and i shoot 38/357 and .44mag. Maybe id be better suited witha single stage press so i could just focus on loading quality .308 and seeing how well i can get my ar-10 to shoot

>>35139091
Do it in batches.

Size, decap 500 cases night one
Flare 500 cases night two
Prime 500 cases night three

Get to loading. Throw powder, seat, press about 200, then crimp.

>>35139153

>so if i get a 650, everything will be automated aside from me cranking the leaver?

Crank the lever and put the bullet on top in stage 4 where my bullet seating die is (stage 3 I have a powder check station).


> Is there anything else you would recommend or that i should get?

You'll need to buy some sort of case prep setup - either a tumbler that uses dry media or a wet tumbling setup.

This stuff is expensive to start, but it lasts for literally 20, 30 years.

>>35139112
>>35139118
Ok so the second post sorta threw me off.

I can put the cameron on a desk (without bolting), install the lnl ap to the cameron, then ballast the cameron with something heavy inside. And it will work?

I am absolutely against buying a new workbench just to drill into it for bolting.

>>35139211

Not a bad idea.

Since I don't have my automatic primer tube filler up here, my steps are

Friday: Load 5 primer tubes
Weekend: Compete
Monday: Load, and tumble cases if running low on ready to load cases

Ideally I want to get it down to just doing everything on Monday nights.

>>35139211
500 rounds? Shit that would run me almost $500 in bullets just for one caliber of what I load. I usually do runs of 100-200.

>>35139153
I always recommend a single stage to learn on. That's not what you want to hear but there really is allot to know.

You'll need to learn how to dial in each die for your chosen projectile, make sure you are charging them properly, make sure they feed and are accurate.

Fucking up 50-100 rounds on a single stage is way easier on you than fucking up several thousand on a progressive.

>>35139255
I only load pistol. Plus, you don't have to load them all. Having primed cases ready is convenient.

>>35139187
How do you get the primer from what I assume it's a blank? I mean, doesn't it explode when you remove it?

>>35139232
I'm only the second post.

You NEED a permanent mount on a solid bench for a progressive. Pissing into the wind of you don't.

>>35139258
yeah I got to load some really nice sierra match kings/lapua brass for my M1A on my buddies single stage and have wanted to do it myself forever now. Its cool and all buying cheap bulk ammo that goes bang but when you're trying to actually improve its maddening using pie plate MOA ammo.

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>>35139238
My newest challenge is figuring out how to tumble about 12000 45acp cases efficiently.

My little tumbler will do about 400 at a time but that's too much fucking around.

Need a harbor freight cement mixer I think.

>>35139343
do you have a tumble drier?

>>35139232
There videos out there of it with a cameron. See what solutions others have come up with.

>>35139288
I use wire cutters to pry open the top carefully, I then pour out the powder into a cup for later, finally I use an eye-dropper to put a few drops of water into the case, stir it with a paper clip and then remove the water/primer solution with the eye-dropper, I typically use this to reload .22lr cartridges. When the primer is wet it is inert.

>>35139380
Yeah. Thought about mounting a 5 gal bucket with some baffles in there. Could probably do about 300 at a time that way.

Or find one at a yard sale. Wife would be happier about that.

I've been known to throw range brass in a pillow case and toss it in the washer when she isn't looking.

>>35139442
Meant 3000

Best single single stage press I'll never outgrow that isn't hideously expensive?

>>35139275
That's really all I load ...I've just been priming new brass lately since I can't throw any powder at the moment

>>35139343
I hope all the small primer brass was sorted out of that mess already

>>35138640
I miss my coax.

I sold it when i moved for grad school.
Now i have a summit that i got as a gift. Works great, but not quite coax great.

>>35139063
The lnl needs a strong mount, the more rigid the better

>>35139484
Coax or summit

>>35139484
I've used a Lee classic for years without any problems...looks like they changed the design a bit from the one I have but I'd imagine they are just as decent

>>35139507
All large primer. Every once in awhile one slips thru that I picked up at the range. The primer stage on the Dillon will find it. It's obvious when you get one.

>>35139527

I originally went with the summit, but the runout I was getting was not acceptable.

My buddy has a coax, and he has damn near zero run out.

So I sold my summit to a local from my range for a loss of about $40, took it as a lesson, and bought a coax.

If anyone is looking to load on a single stage, and make precision ammo; you're wasting time with other presses.

>>35139418
Neat, so after I remove the water/primer solution I just put it into a new primer?

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>>35138218

>he manually loads bullets on for each round

its like your a slave

>>35139718
Unless you trickling powder on an Entris64 I wouldn't consider it "precision" either

>>35139836

>not buying an older and slightly used gd503 at a significantly reduced price.

Its like you want me to be retarded...

Noob question: Can you reload steel cased ammo (assuming the primers are right?)
I have a bucket of spent cases because I want to get into reloading at some point and I'm wondering if I should throw some of the steel case stuff out if it's useless

>>35139963
Steel case is perfectly reloadable.
Most will be berdan primed and a bit more effort to deprime and find primers.

>>35139821
Does the bullet feed station also seat the bullet? I thought you had to put the feeder in the powder check location so you still have room to seat and crimp.

>>35139946
There's never any for sale...just like you used to be able to buy decent Ohaus scales used but anymore they are all broken or beat to shit and back

>>35139976
thanks

>>35139991
for Dillon dies sure. but why the fuck would you not use the carbide RCBS ones that seat and crimp in the same step which then retains the powder check

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Just bought pic related in lol 9mm
How bad did I fuck up? First time reloader

>>35140015
Never had good results seating and crimping in one step.

Have the rcbs seat/crimp die. About 2% of my rounds would get a bulge the wouldn't allow them to chamber. Problem went away when seating and crimping separately.

>>35140000

I just got lucky and came across a gd503 because a local retired college professor used to do prospecting for fine flour gold from the local area, and got out of it because he's getting older.

Picked it up for a song. (Hint, less than coax brand new)

>>35140049
after at least 50,000 rounds through them I have never had that issue

>>35140049
>>35140068

That sounds more like a flaring issue..I have 1000s of rounds through mine as well and never ran into that

>>35138972
>>35139017
>>35139038
>>35139114
>>35139153
If you're just learning, an auto-indexing press might not be ideal. The 550 can be used as a pseudo single stage press which might help you understand all the steps.

>>35139821
>he has to trim his brass on another station
Grandmother poverty called and she wants her reloading press back.

>>35140042

you're going to get tired of that reeeeeal quick.

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>>35140156

>ever trimming straight walled pistol cases

I'm gunna mount my 550b to a wooden sawhorse because I can't fit a workbench in my apartment.

Does RCBS not have their rebate this year?

>>35140042
I don't even know what that is....

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>tfw now I have two Chargemaster 1500's
Now I won't be consistently fucking around with waiting for powder to throw, and I can do my 6.5CM pretty quick.

Currently reload for 6.5CM and 44 mag. Have loaded for .45-70, 458 Lott, 338 Lapua, 500 S&W, 308, and probably something else.

>>35139091
Atleast your set up works. Something is binding in mine and i haven't had the time to figure it out

Anyone know about loads for 7.62x45?

Thinking of getting a VZ 52.

>>35140831
I guess for fucking around with or taking out in the field, it's ok.

>>35139794
For rimfire yes, just set out to dry for a couple hours, although you might want to adjust how much primer/water solution you put because in the factory they do fancy spinning magic to make the priming compound flow into the rim better.

For centerfire boxer primers you have to remove the anvil first, remove the dent in the primer with a punch or something similar, put the priming compound in, put the anvil back in, and let dry. What I found was that if i collected enough primer water and let it dry a bit so it became thick it could be put into the old primer a lot easier.

The only issue with both these methods is it requires practice and a fuckton of patience, repriming rimfire brass isn't cost effective if your time is valuable and it takes good amounts of trial and error to get things working.

Also: make tools for scraping spent primer from the rimfire brass and removing the anvil from the primer out of paper clips, cheap and allows tailoring to ones own hands.

I'll post my setup tomorrow morning.

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Put them all through the case gauge, and boxed. Vacuum the area tomorrow

>>35140207
You underestimate my autism

>>35141143
nice autism boxes

>>35140049

I too have the RCBS seat/crimp die for my 9mm minor toolhead. I don't like it for that reason. It's a fucking bitch to get it adjusted and it's very error prone. I hate it.

>>35141177

It is a bit autistic, but there's a reason for it. I have yet to chrono this ammo (it's being delivered next week) and I'm doing a USPSA sectional in 6 weeks so I want to label everything - if for some reason 6.6gr isn't enough to make Major power factor. If it ends up not being enough I'll use that for steel matches where it doesn't matter.

Also I'm hoping to set aside a box each time I do a loading session, so I build up about 2k rounds for when I go down to Florida (or maybe Arizona) over the winter and compete down there to keep training. I went this winter and my Dad came with, and his ammo wasn't labeled, so when he had issues with some rounds he didn't know what batch it was from, so he didn't know what was wrong with it or when it was from, to avoid those batches.

>>35141280
Also it'll keep me from taking this ammo when I'm shooting my Glock 17, loading it, and blowing myself to smithereens.

>>35140861
I can't be bothered to wait 30 seconds for powder to throw

>>35140042
You might load 50 rounds before saying fuck it

I did the same fucking thing starting out reloading with some 303

im trying to make some super fast meme rounds with 90 grain hornady xtp for my 9. the hornady seat and crimp dye leaves a dirty crimp but the bullet still can spin in the brass wtf? anyone know wtf this devilry is?

Just started 30-06 but apparently I'm a retard that can't avoid getting cases stuck in my resizing die.

>>35142840
Lube em good

>a reloading thread with actual content

I'm impressed /k/
seems like summer is over

Opinions on the Lee classic turret press?

I want to get into reloading, so I figured this would be a good starting point. I mainly want to load 9mm but also some .308 and other rifle calibers later on.

>>35139570
I heard those were made out of aliminium. Wouldn't the dies deform it somewhat fast being made out of harder materials?

>>35141297
Why would that happen?

>>35138902
What did you read to learn? A friend gave me a copy of Hornady's reloading manual, and I want to start, but I need to begin from almost rock bottom. I have a rifle in .25-35, my CCW is 9mm Makarov, and I want to make some WW2 power M2 Ball for my Garand, so reloading is a must if I want to save money and keep shooting.

>>35143444
Sounds like he is loading 9mm major for competition.

That's a 147 going 1200fps, or a 115 going 1500.

Really high pressure.

>>35143500
Interesting, I always assumed all handguns of the same caliber are comparable in strength. Which guns can handle this pressure?

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Rate my hand made primer catcher for the humble RCBS partner.

The brass case is a .223 that I cut and use as an insert inside the piston so the spent primers won't go out to the primer arm notch.

This way all the primers go inside the pipe and to the bottom bottle.

All of this using PVC plumbing and some plastic.

>>35143621
is that a pee bottle?

>>35143562
I dunno man. Probably an open gun with a comp or something.

Try googa

>>35143630
some chemical sampling bottle i found at work, nothing fancy. It fitted the pipe neatly, so got it.

>>35140042
I have the exact same kit for 308 which is fine given my 308 is bolt action. Fuck using it for 9mm that's what my Square Deal is for, you'll get really sick of it before you manage to load any kind of volume of 9mm. Unless you're autistic like that so maybe you're good?

>>35141280
Nah not that autistic I do exactly the same with all the 9mm I reload. All the people I know that shoot competitively and reload do the same,

>>35139300
The ungodly expsnsive Lapua brass is wasted on an M1A. Theyre simply not made to group as well as a price-comparable bolt gun.

Going to get a Lee Classic Cast breech lock press.
Any recommendations for .308 dies? I intend to bump size with full length dies. I hear some full length dies are shit for bump sizing. Pls help

>>35138218
Don't let any powder spill or you will have to shut down and clean errything for half an hour.

>>35138248
>124gr Berry's Thick Plated (THICC) RNHBP


Take ten berry's "bullets" at random and weigh them.

Take the same ten "bullets" and with a good micrometer, measure them. Not a dial caliper, but a micrometer.

All over the map eh?

Now check your taper crimp. Push hard. Let me know what happened.

>>35138902
muh dik.

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>>35141140
Here is my setup for reloading .22lr
Tools:
Wire Cutters
>for opening .22 blanks and rough trimming of the sides
Metal File
>cleaning up roughly trimmed cases and resizing of homemade shotgun shell rims
Needle Nose Pliers
>for pinching trimmed cases back into a round shape
Hobby knife
>deburing cases after filing and for scraping armstrongs mixture from caps
Drinking Straws
>for transferring powder into cases
Paper Clips
>used for scraping old primer out of .22 cases, stiring water into new primer and for removing anvils from primer cups.
Eye Dropper
>transferring liquids to and from cases and primers.
Tweezers
>nice for moving small stuff around
Metal shaft
>used to punch dents out of primers
Nail bent at 90 degree angle
>for packing down powder, wax, and wads for .22 ratshot cartridges
Sticky notes
>used to take notes and when folded to transfer powders/shots to different containers and cases.
Candles
>seal round with wax
Scissors
>general purpose, cuts paper.

[Tools not shown]
3in Nail filed flat at end
>used to punch primers out of pistol and rifle cases
Clamps
>used to press bullets into cases

>>35143984
nigger you're retarded if you reload .22 to reuse brass and not to make your own match ammo, making super consistant ammo is the only excuse for reloading .22lr

the only reason I go through all that trouble is because I reload a dead-ass obsolete .32 rimfire

>>35139836
Fuck that get a Prometheus
>>35139718
I haven't had runout problems but i think that is because when i seat, i seat then rotate thw cartrage 180 and run the die down again.

I also check concentriciy and adjust it as needed

Do you trim to length brass before or after resizing?

>>35144053
Not him, but i think its neat. Reloading doesnt have to be a means to an end, maybe he enjoys it as a hobby. I mean, youd pretty much have to enjoy it to go through all of that

>>35140477
just find an old workbench on craigslist or at a thrift store you ignorant fucking ape

>>35144385
After. Unless it's straight wall pistol brass.

As previous anon said, it doesn't need to be trimmed. I've loaded thousands and thousands of 45 and I never check brass length.

Maybe if I was doing bullseye loads I'd sort my brass and really dial in the loads but it isn't necessary for me.

>>35144421
I'm trying my damn hardest to learn to load precision match grade ammo, so I'll probably try get as much uniformity as possible for now. I haven't even looked at neck tension yet

>>35143984
I didn't want to reload rimfire so that's ok. But thanks for helping me, btw how much water should I put to the primer thing? Or should I know it by trial and error?

>>35144434
Good luck anon. I haven't ventured into that yet. Just reloading for volume.

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>>35143562
>>35143500
>>35143643

It's for this beast

>>35144465
It really is one of those cases of "the more you know, the more you realise you don't know".
I should hopefully have my basic kit in 3-4 weeks (depending on shipping).

>>35144472
IPSC?

>>35143492
I got a reloading manual but there are really great guides online. Those helped me way more. Just google stuff like "reloading basics".

Also there are some great YouTube vids out there that will really break down everything.

>>35144472
Damn
How much did that setup cost you?

>>35143856
I bought the gun to shoot targets at 1000+ yards but I figure it'd make a great super long range varmint gun. If I can hit a 6" ringer at 1000 yards I think I can hit a ground squirrel at 800.

>>35143492
Theres enough online resources to get you going but i read "the ABCs of reloading" by james. Its a great in depth book that starts at the very basics and goes forward from there.
Again, not necessary but if you do want a book to read, thats a good one

>>35144479
>IPSC?

USPSA - so yeah the 'Murica chapter of IPSC

>>35144515
> How much did that setup cost you?

Gun was $4500, belt is probably $600. Gun came with two magazines, so bought 3 more for $360

You can get a similar setup for far less money - but I bought it because I hit a major milestone in my life recently and I don't plan on buying any more guns in my lifetime. So this gun has to last 45 years....

>>35143853

OK, I'll do that and report back tomorrow. If this thread isn't archived - otherwise when I start the new one I'll post the results.

>>35144536

The book was edited by a guy who blew both his hands off with home made explosives. Do you really want to read a book on reloading by him?

What do you guys do for tumbling? Dry/wet? What tumbler? What media? Process (time, etc)?
t. random guy interested in reloading

>>35144616
I have a little franford arsenal tumbler. I use lizard litter crushed walnut shells and a dab of nufinish car polish.

Toss in a dryer sheet to collect dust and about 400 pieces of pistol brass. Good to go in about an hour. Media lasts a long time.

Currently debating on buying the big Dillon tumbler that does about a thousand rounds or building something that will do a shitload of brass.

>>35141635
Sounds like it wasn't sized properly. The case body is too wide

>>35144053
I'm not retarded, just a masshole.

>>35144456
Trial and error, putting lots in to start and slowly putting in less until you get a good medium between reliability and efficiency.

>>35144613
Was it one incident or two?

>>35145200

One incident as far as I know. I actually have the book and the chapters are written by knowledgeable people.

Just wanted to take a jab at a cripple partially I guess.

>>35139204
not a bad idea. i did over 1k on a single stage for my BRs the year before. i gonna take a stab in the dark and guess you got a 1-10 barrel. i loaded up 150gr and could get clovers at 50yds with irons. had a nice Mega barrel though so it helped. look into some 175gr sierras

>>35139211
this shit here

How the fuck is Hornady .204 Vmax $.50 per round LOADED but empty Hornady brass is also $.50 per case?

How much is 4500 rounds of mixed head stamp once fired .223/5.56 brass worth cleaned and deprimed?

Thanks!

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Should I put off buying that new pistol to get an RCBS Rockchucker kit? I don't plan to be saving any money since I don't shoot enough but it seems like a fun hobby

Right now I understand the basics of the basics, the main thing that I need clarification on is the entire start to finish procedure for recycling brass (cleaning is a given, then resizing? I think)

Also is this any good for mounting a press? And will a roughly 3x2ft2 area be sufficient?

>>35139963
>>35139976
Non berdan primed steel is easier to deprime?
How many times can you reload steel?

Any guides to this?

>>35138248
wow man, sure there is a noticeable hourglass effect on those reloads.
Yes I know they'll work perfectly but still wondering a lot. What set of dies are you currently using?

pic related, my freshly loaded 9mm hard cast

>>35146726

Brass Bombers has 5k of Lake City brass for $349. So, keep that price point in mind.

I've reloaded mixed headstamp commercial brass and to be honest I didn't like how much variation there was in the brass. I'd rather buy LC and deal with the crimp in my super swage, rather than buy mixed commercial brass in those quantities.

So - I'll give you tree fiddy.

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>>35146775
lol forgot picture

>>35145394
I guess it doesn't make a difference I just figure one incident losing one rather than it happening twice it might of just be a freak accident.

Any idea how to figure out what length barrels manufacturers use? I picked up some hornady semi jhp rounds since they're advertised a bit hotter than other ones figure I'm going to lose at least 200fps but wondering if they do anything weird like use a 30+inch barrel for pistol round testing

>>35146775
>wow man, sure there is a noticeable hourglass effect on those reloads.

Yeah. They're Dillon carbide dies so it seems to be just the way they do it.

I'll check my adjustments but when I set the dies up I started by increasing the depth of the dies until they passed the case gauge - so I don't believe I'm over crimping or over-resizing in stage 1

>>35146775
>>35146939

I also had a couple rounds (maybe 10 out of 500) that had a significant bulge at the bottom of the case, and they wouldn't go into the case gauge.

I did check the resizing die in stage 1, and screwed it down further because it was a little loose.

So, we'll see, in the next batch.

>>35146939
>Yeah. They're Dillon carbide dies so it seems to be just the way they do it.
they do that. no problem running the loads in a CZ 75 SP01 but hey look weird.

Is a chrono totally necessary?

I know velocity matters but I mean if I find a near max load that my gun loves and shoots very consistent groups does velocity matter?

>>35146961
Bulge at the bottom is from a high pressure load without enough chamber support, no?

I set me sizing due to touch the shell plate then back off about 3/4 cunthair to keep from interference.

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>>35147046

>>35147046
>Is a chrono totally necessary?

I'm only getting one because I'm competing in a USPSA level 2 match where a chronograph will be present, to verify the power factor.

Caldwell makes one for $60 so I mean it's not a lot of money - so, it's worth it probably in the long run because you'll have more data, and you'll be able to know more information about your loadings.

>>35147047
>Bulge at the bottom is from a high pressure load without enough chamber support, no?

Yeah, this is once fired brass so it probably came from Glocks.

... or possibly they're rounds that I picked up after shooting them out of my open gun. Who knows?

>I set me sizing due to touch the shell plate then back off about 3/4 cunthair to keep from interference.

Yeah, that's what I did when I readjusted the sizing die.

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>>35146961
>>35146939

I was curious because you see, we do load 9x21mm in my country as common as 9mm Luger.
Fact is, common dies (LEE, RCBS, Dillon, Redding, etc) are optimised for 9mm Luger so usually we have a noticeable hourglass shape of the 9x21mm rounds compared to factory ammo.

While absolutely not a problem functionality wise, they look weird. More so if you load the larger hard cast bullets, that is a common thing over here.

So the solution I've adopted to solve this problem is somewhat a strange one. I bought a LEE factory crimp for 9mm, that gives the right shape even on 9x21mm but seems to loosen up seated and crimped bullet if used as the 4th stage.

Then, I had a machinist make me to a lathe a special cap for the the LEE factory crimp that houses a decap pin. Now I use the LEE factory crimp as the 1st stage, decap and size, fully seated. At first they neck down the case a bit, but then at the 2nd stage I resize and flare at a strict minimum to have the bullet sliding in.

RESULTS - excellent looking ammo even with fat hard cast bullets.

Pic related, my very first loads of 10 years ago or so. In the center, a factory round. You can see the hourglass on the handloads.

Tl;dr: I was somewhat impressed that hourglass happens even on 9mm Luger

>>35146778
Thank you very much!

>>35147111
>So the solution I've adopted to solve this problem is somewhat a strange one. I bought a LEE factory crimp for 9mm, that gives the right shape even on 9x21mm but seems to loosen up seated and crimped bullet if used as the 4th stage.

Yeah that seems to be a common bit of advice, to get the Lee factory crimp die.

Is there a setup that would allow me to flip a switch, fall asleep, then wake up to a bunch of ammo?

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>>35147111
Same here, although it seems there is less crimp

>>35143095
i have the lee classic turret. use it for 9mm mostly, but also 308 and soon 30-06 for my garand. i like the versatility. faster than a single press for not much more money, and much cheaper than a progressive. downsides are that you will either have to use scooper powder measure for 308 size rifle rounds, unless you get the auto double disk kit to get sufficient powder volume. also the auto disk kit drools powder a bit unless you fine sand the surfaces down. cons vs a progressive are that you need to pull 4 times for a complete round, while in a progressive you get one round per pull.

make sure you mount it to a very sturdy bench or furniture made of hardwood or metal. i put it on a cheap pine wood nightstand from ikea and cracked the wood it was mounted to.

>>35147225

If you've got about $3k - sure.

http://www.markvii-loading.com/

>>35147252
I want to get this as starting equipment, to see if reloading is really for me and to learn on it. I think it would not be wise for me to start off with a progressive, because I have no experience and don't know what I am getting myself into and what will be important to me as a reloader. So making such a huge investment would feel like a gamble to me.

But I see no downsides with the Lee turret. It's cheap, can probably do everything a single stage can do and could be operated a bit faster. Even if I get a progressive down the road I can still use it for small batches, rifle rounds or load development.

Does this sound reasonable or should I look into other presses to start off on?

Just bought the Lee ultimate 6.5 creedmoor dies for the savage 12fv I got on backorder... I've been pretty happy with the 308 versions. Now I need to buy brass, powder, projectiles etc which are all way more expensive... Bummer...

>>35147263
I could see that being a solid value for a small range that wants to roll and sell their own, that's cool s shit

>>35147999
That's a huge liability.

>>35147485
sounds reasonable. thats why i got the lee classic turret. reloading gets expensive quickly, however. tumbling, case trimming and lubing, priming, powder throwing and measuring, case length gauges... and that is all before the cost of brass, primers powder, and bullets. it all adds up. and if/when u get into it, u will find yourself buying more gear to help the reloading process go faster or more precise.

I miss reloading. I'm in a super tiny apartment right now with junk spilling all around me. Slowly trying to wrangle it all down and piece together a proper reloading space again.

>>35148927
i have the same issue. have to leave my reloading setup at my parents place, which i only visit once a month. hoping to move to a bigger place next year, set up my reloading spot right proper.

>>35149259
Chances of me moving to a better place within the next two decades is slim. Just going to try to set up my dinky single stage somewhere in here sometime soon.

>>35149269
Well wishes on this m8. Maybe post pictures of what you end up with after it's done? I really enjoy these reloading threads every time they pop up.

Found this on youtube while researching setups for myself, maybe you will find it helpful.
https://youtu.be/xnNl5JIP6qs

>>35144561
The rest of your life is a long fucking time man

>>35138218

Is loading your own 12 ga slugs really cheaper than buying factory slugs?

>>35138218
Nice setup. I just finished prepping cases for my .243.
Loaded some deer rounds for my 30.06. BTHP.

Finally I pulled the bullets and dumped the powder on 150 rounds of 54R. I split the powder evenly and reload into brass. I 3d printed some mags for my SVT-40 and they hate steel cases.

I need to learn how to load shit for my martini henry

I know you can do it with shotgun brass or something. But I know next to 0 about reloading. I wouldnt even know where to start

Aight noob question here.. I've got 10mm, 7.62x39, and 12ga as the primary rounds I shoot. Are any of these actually WORTH reloading? I used to reload shotgun pretty regularly but that was years ago on my dad's gear when I was still a kid. From what I understand everything reloading related is more expensive now? I'd kinda like to load my own 10 so I don't have to spend so much on premade XTPs since that's what I carry.

>>35151658
10mm would probably be worth reloading although it's up to you to decide if a single caliber is worth getting into reloading. As for loading your own carry ammo I don't most of the big manufacturers use powder calibrated for ultra low flash and specific barrel lengths for some of the subcompact loads. I would just stick with whatever ammo you already use but maybe that's just my autism. You could probably work up a training load to mimic your carry load but make it more economical.

Don't know much about shotgun but I think it requires specialized equipment.

7.62x39 doesn't really seem worth it to me since there's already super cheap steel cased blasting ammo and 7.62x39 makes a poor long distance round so idk why you'd want to load precision ammo.

FWIW I have zero experience reloading but I've been interested in it for a while and have picked up on some things over time.

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Reloading newfag here, I have a question.

What is pic related? The little piece of bullet that is showing through the brass?

Why does that happen? Is it unsafe to shoot?

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When you seat with your flaring die by mistake..

>>35153011
So that's what people mean by 9mm short?

>>35152964
To be fair it seems that the brass mouth got pinched a bit, but reloaded anyway.

It -should- be safe to shoot but you can expect a ruptured case mouth/case stuck in chamber if load is hot.

I'd pull components apart and load a better brass case.

>>35153062
Seems .45 to me

>>35151658
I'd say that 10mm is worth reloading, 12 Gauge only if you are interested in slug ammo.
7,62 ComBlock should be still always cheaper.

I've eyed some reloading tables and 10mm and 12 Gauge have some powders that can be used both, if making shotshells in the medium-heavy side (so buckshot and slugs can be made with those powders).

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I loaded some "cat sneeze" loads for .223.

>6 grains unique
>monarch .223 brass
>nosler 55 varmint SP jacketed
>Remington small primer

I should've gotten trail boss but fuck if I can't find any. I'm pretty fucking scared since I haven't loaded much beside hornady 75 gr BTHP with 29 gr of CFE223. They say a small charge and empty case like this make squib the bullet and blow up the barrel.

Thinking about getting into casting, need recommendations on a cheap starter smelter. Would be casting for muzzleloader, 357/38, mauser and a few other unobtanium calibers

I have a shitton of lead pipe and wheelweights, arent I supposed to add tin or antimony or some shit to them to make it harder?

>>35153323
Small loads of fast burning powder are fine. They've been used in this manner for decades.
A small load of a slow powder may be an issue. The detterent coating may burn off before the charge ignites. It will then ignite when fairly evenly distributed around the volume of the case and burn faster than normal causing a larger pressure spike. Testing had shown charges around 20-30% of the volume had the highest chance of this. Using kapok or similar to hold the charge at the rear of the case was an easy cure.

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>>35153323
2 questions actually:

>are there subcaliber sabots for .22 in a 12 gauge cartridge

>1,000 rounds of Egyptian 8mm. How do i safely pull all of it and what powder and primer do i stick in it.

Bonus question, what are these and why do people complain that they didn't make military contract?

>>35153343
>Egyptian 8mm

Just shoot it

>>35153341
neat thanks, I've heard of cream of wheat during the depression

>>35153294
I think so too, but I really wanted to make that joke

>>35153345
Hangfires my nigga, If its a striker issue then I may protrude it IDK what the deal is but its a Spanish air force Mauser I'm firing. the brass is brittle too so i may anneal it if i can anneal

>>35153337
Where to cast? I assmue you would spread lead particles in you garden if you did it there. Not good if small children are around...

>>35153352
Could be a gun related problem. I've shot loads of aged ammo in my k98. How do you know if the brass is too brittle? Genuinely curious because i dont know

>>35153366
Is this some autistic reference to something or an attempt to be funny?

>>35153373
The rounds that don't hangfire are an absolute bitch to get out, having to slap the bolt for a good 30 minutes on a busted case. The cracks are usually along the case neck.

>>35153380
Okay yeah, if you are getting a lot of splits and hangfires i would pull them apart.

Replace the primers, keep the bullets, measure how much powder per bullet and keep the powder for reuse, anneal the brass then

Not worth blowing a gun up

>>35138218
Over the last month I've loaded about 400 .308, 100 odd .45-70, and a couple different .300 blackout loads. I'm eyeing my boxes of spent .30-06 and 7mm-08 debating which stack I want to start in on next.

>>35139258
>I always recommend a single stage to learn on.

^ this.

I can't put a number on how many progressive setups I have bought from frustrated beginners who thought they would buy a nice expensive rig and learn it.

Making 12 different adjustments that have an effect on something else is quite frustrating.
Like an anon previously mentioned, spilling a little powder on a Dillon rig will shut it down until its clean.

If your goal is to crank out rounds as fast as humanly possible, you are doing it wrong.

I find the reloading process fun and enjoyable. A great alternative to the TV joo.

>>35153373
>Is this some autistic reference to something or an attempt to be funny?
I am genuienly worried about this. I have never worked with lead though.

>>35153400
Lead poisoning is a thing obviously so do it in a dedicated area thats well ventilated. Id personally wear goggles and a mask or respirator too.

>>35140042
I began reloading with that kit.
.38 special off the tailgate of my pick up truck.
On lazy San Diego Sunday afternoons.

I cast my own bullets, and used Unique powder. Still do.

>>35153433
The point is I don't know where to do it, because I am afraid of leaving lead residue behind.

>>35153441
Where do you cast?

>>35153452
A workshop, a garage? Not that hard. Not in your house because you are fucking with molten metal. Residue wouldn't be any concern really.

>>35138218
I'm moving in with my parents for the forseeable future due to Harvey destroying my house and the house I was going to move into. That aside, I'm limited on space in my office for a reloading bench. How large of a table will I need for a reloading setup/gunsmithing table? For the latter I just used my desk and it worked fine but I need to keep my desk and workbench serparate. Will I have to make a table myself or are there options from hardware stores or online retailers that will work? I assume my shitty IKEA Malm desk won't cut it anymore.

>captcha: enfield

>>35144616
I have two Thumblers Rotary Tumblers with SS pins. I use Koolaid (citric acid) envelopes and a dash of Dawn. Cool water, not hot.

Tumble for 45-60 min. Even the primer pockets are clean. Problem is the Citric Acid strips the brass and it will corrode quickly.

So I use a vibratory tumbler with corn cob media and a dash of brass polish. This process also dries out the brass from the water/ss pin process so I am ready to reload after 10-15 min in the vibratory rig.

The brass looks like new, as shiny on the inside as it is on the outside.

>>35144654
>I have a little franford arsenal tumbler. I use lizard litter crushed walnut shells and a dab of nufinish car polish.


Me too.

For newbs be aware there 57 different ways to get from point A (range brass) to point B (accurate, safe and inexpensive reloaded ammunition). There is no right way, only the safe way is the one that matters.

92 reloaders will tell you 92 different ways. Take it all with a grain of salt and find what works best for YOU. It may be a LEE classic press or a $2500 dillon blue koolaid setup.

Either method will turn out accurate and safe ammo for pennies on the dollar.

>>35141635
>but the bullet still can spin in the brass

Case mouth expansion is too big. It is truly an art to find the smallest expansion that will allow the bullet to seat without shaving.

You may also need to trim the brass. Not common on handgun cases but it can stretch a tiny bit making the mouth expansion vary from case to case.

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>>35151429

I'm not sure about slugs, but I have an SL900 and that also saves quite a bit of money if you shoot a lot of shotgun.

Pic related. Shore house setup. SL900 is mine, XL650 is Dad's.

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>>35153453
>Where do you cast?

On the patio on cool (spring or fall) days. I have two pots. One for cleaning and the other for alloying/casting. I use a MAPP torch to speed up the melting. I use a thermometer and gang molds.
When I get on a roll I can cast 500 in to time at all. I enjoy it.

>>35153600
Use car wash soap with the wax, it will keep your brass from tarnishing and dry better.

>>35152964
Are you trying to seat and crimp at the same time?

>>35153779
This is an old pic. The mold was still cold when these were cast. I made the pic to show my fav plinking round with 45 fudd.

>>35143853
>>124gr Berry's Thick Plated (THICC) RNHBP
>Take ten berry's "bullets" at random and weigh them.
>Take the same ten "bullets" and with a good micrometer, measure them. Not a dial caliper, but a micrometer.
>All over the map eh?
>Now check your taper crimp. Push hard. Let me know what happened.

After doing the above, pull a couple of your reloaded plated bullets. Use a micrometer on the base of the bullet that was below the rim.

Its no longer .355 is it?

>>35140477
I drilled holes in my dining room table when I was an apt. dweller. I covered it with a plastic and or fabric table cloth. Chicks loved it.

>>35144472
>It's for this beast
why not put some custom grips on it? It will shoot straighter with expensive, cool looking grips on it.

>>35144527
>If I can hit a 6" ringer at 1000 yards

You should try out for the Olympic Team, or maybe Camp Perry. You are world class if you can do that.

>>35138932
How often do you shoot? The thing is, thesE dylons hold their value great and they last forever. When you do buy in(because we know you will), don't be cheap, get carbide dies instead of just steel

>>35140918
Line it up.
All of it (don't get the powder yet, it'll stick to the die

>>35151218
A long fucking Time.
>>35144472
What about guns for grandkids?

>>35154537
How new are you?

I can get on it 3-4 rounds if it's a calm morning and I'm not even close to the best guy at my tiny local range.

There's a 60 year old Mexican with a .260 Rem that I've seen hit it 3 times consecutively after a single spotting shot.

>>35150119
Does lyman make the best conventional book on reloading?

>>35153511
See >>35150119

>>35154091
are... are you not supposed to do that?

I only have one die that looks like it can do either of those things. I got a set of three, one for depriming, one with a big fat rod in the middle of it (flaring?) and one for what I assumed was seating and crimping

>>35152964
Increase your case mounth flare, make sure you are seating and crimping separately

>>35148014
Also illegal under a type 1 ffl

>>35144731
>>35153623
Thanks guys you were right. Much love amigos

>>35159694
you can do both, it's just more complicated. a separate crimp die is best.

>>35140042
nice kit for SHTF trunk loader....shitty for non-SHTF use.

Has anyone seen the youtube videos of people suing match stick heads and the red felt on the boxes as primers? From what I have seen it works really good. Just wandering if anyone knew of alternatives to primers. I want something long term if things go south. Only thing I have come up with so far is black powder and lead casting. Granted that still will reach a limit one day but i can buy scrap lead for less than a dollar and make gunpowder for 2.50-3 dollars a lb and buy all the ingredients in bulk with a infinite shelf life.

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>>35139821
bitch please

https://youtu.be/6UHuCJvEnjc

>>35138218
Never had one of these but say i wanted to make 9mm or .45 its much cheaper this way right?

>>35161229
Not much cheaper. Pistol rounds are relatively cheap to begin with, you'll have to use range brass and buy powder, primers and bullets in huge bulk or on sale if you want to save any money. Additionally, it's very time-consuming unless you get an expensive progressive press which you probably shouldn't until you know you enjoy handloading.

Large, expensive rifle rounds are where you really save money, because they're so overpriced in stores. I started reloading specifically because I was tired of paying almost a buck a round for .30-06 at my local store.

Is the Lee turret reloader any good?

>>35160761
>>35160516
So what you're saying is I got a crappy die set and need to get a 4-piece die set? I bought this 3-piece one from a gun show for $15

And how do you increase your case mouth flare?

>>35154714
>What about guns for grandkids?

I'm single these days. Not really interested in having kids, would only grudgingly have one if found someone that wanted one.

Dating has always been shit, and when you're 30 it's shittier.

So tl;dr is: fuck 'em.

>>35163519
>Dating has always been shit, and when you're 30 it's shittier.
I always heard that dating gets easier for men in their 30s, because single women are getting more desperate to find a partner

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>>35163550

Yeah but it cuts both ways - if they're not locked in to a partner they must have something wrong with them. I had a domestic partner for a couple years so I've played house with a gal for a time. I'll keep working on it but I've set my sights on making grand master by time I'm 35.

Anyway, back to reloading:

My press is dirty as fuck. Reloading 9 major when you don't have patience means spilled powder everywhere.

I'm also going to fill primer tubes while on conference calls today. Hard life. ;)

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>>35163635

>>35163635
>I had a domestic partner for a couple years so I've played house with a gal for a time. I'll keep working on it but I've set my sights on making grand master by time I'm 35.
What...? I really don't understand what you are trying to say...

>>35163650
>What...? I really don't understand what you are trying to say...

Disregard females, acquire GM USPSA classification

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I should buy more primer pickup tubes to match the number of conference calls I sit on all day.

>>35138218
Im a college student with limited funds but my living arrangements would allow me to do this. Is it worth it to start now or would the upfront cost be too much?

>>35164712

There are upfront costs.

Case prep for 9mm:

You can either buy cleaned and prepped brass, or pick up brass on the range "for free" and then have to buy the equipment to tumble and clean it.

I bought 9mm brass for around $0.02/per for 5,000 unprocessed cases off gunbroker to start building up my reserves, and cleaned and prepped brass can be bought for ~$0.03/per case for 3,000 cases on gunbroker, or $0.05/per locally for small bags of like 500 processed cases when I was in a rush and low on brass.

I say "pick up brass for free" because you'll need to purchase about $200 worth of case prep tools (tumbler, media, chemicals, etc).

So, if you have a steady stream of brass that you pick up from the range, it may make sense. But remember it's going to take picking up about 15,000 9mm cases to pay off the tumbling equipment. Don't forget you need to buy a bucket, and a roller to pick it up, depending on your range conditions.

I've started picking up brass from my range, and rolling up brass when I do steel shoots, so I probably get about ~30% of my brass back that I shoot every month. I shoot about 1k rounds per month. So even then I have to purchase unprocessed brass online for around ~$0.02/per case, for 5000 cases.

I shot about 125 rounds practicing the other day and walked away with probably about 250 9mm once fired by picking them up from the range (everyone just left them in their stalls, I wasn't raiding bins). So sometimes you're up, sometimes you're down.

The startup costs are high, regardless, when starting out.

>>35165350

Here's my costs for the rounds that I shoot

> 9mm minor 115gr

> 500 projectiles = $38.86
> 4lb can of titegroup = $81
> 5k primers = $150?
> 5k cases = $100

Cost per round is $0.11/per

> 9mm Major w/ Montana Gold
> 3750 projectiles = $340
> 8lb can of Autocomp = $170 (shipping + hazmat fee fucked me hard but I needed it quick)
> 5k primers = $150
> 5k cases = $100

Total cost is $0.14/per


These are both assuming that I shoot the round and don't pick up the case again. So, this is a "worst case" cost.

But as you can see, I dropped about $500 to build up these reserves.

>>35140285
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>>35165455

The setup that you see in >>35138218 - the order from Dillon was $1,197.55 shipped for the press, scale, and a couple other things. I can paste in the whole order summary if you need it.

Add in about $300 for each toolhead, and i have two of them, one for 9 major and one for 9 minor.

The bench was about ~$250 on Amazon.

>>35165488

So to put this all together, I would say it's about $2500 for *all the hardware*

Then you spend about $500 for your consumables.

So, $3k to build my setup.


I will need to shoot and load about 47,000 9mm minor rounds to break even on this setup, and at my rate of ~1000 rounds per month that will take me approximately 4 years to pay for the cost of everything.

Now, I'll point out that this is my second setup. >>35153642 has a Dillon XL650 that was bought in like 1998 - so that press has probably saved about $12,600 over its lifetime, if we took the amount of money I save on 9mm with today's prices ($63.02 per 1k rounds) and just multiply it by how old that press is.

So, food for thought.

>>35165548

One thing to keep in mind though, is that with a reloading setup you will be insulated from loaded ammunition panics.

You will however not be insulated from component shortages. During the Iraq War of 2003, primers got really scarce. Projectiles also got more expensive since the price of copper, lead, and other metals have jumped in price when China's economy was really chugging along.

>>35165548

Reloading 9 major saves me $300 per 1000 rounds, compared to buying Atlanta Arm's 9major ammo (https://atlantaarms.com/products/case-9mm-major-147gr-jhp-elite.html) which is $440 a case before shipping.

Which means I can shoot my race gun (which doesn't work with regular 9mm factory loads), and it will only take me about a year to pay off my whole reloading setup.

>>35163635
Can powder go off if it got crushed in that joint?? That's freaking TNT as the base component that would make me kind of nervous

>>35165643

No, I don't believe that powder is impact sensitive. Live primers might be a bit of an issue, and sometimes a live primer will come off the ski jump and land in those little crevasses and get crushed. But they don't go off because it's not really a quick and hard impact. Just a slow crush.

Also that whole area is full of oil and grease, so that powder is basically soaked in 30wt motor oil.

Flammable, for sure - but there's no open flames anywhere near there. Closest flame source is the furnace which is in a mechanicals closet 10 yards away.

>>35165548
Thanks for the info m8

Recommend me a good caliper and a good scale

>>35163217
Ah okay thanks for the info, yeah i can imagine it being very annoying to deal with the size of a pistol round than a rifle round. How long have you been loading for, is it easy to work with?

>>35138750
2 pellets of lead 000 buck over 3 grains of unique in a 38 sp case is pretty damn cheap.

>>35167291
Not too long, you might want advice from more experienced /k/omrades as well. But the facts are pretty simple--single stage press means you need to put each round in one at a time and press them once for each die, so it's a lot of time per round. That is okay for calibers where you make each round count and don't need a lot like large rifles, but for stuff like 9mm and .223 that people tend to just kind of blow through, it means many hours of effort expended for just a little bit of shooting.

>>35165466
>what is casting and loading 44/454/500

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>>35165466
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