/msg/ Milsurp General: Finnboogaloo

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Brownies are good.

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>>35079296
>You guys are meh cooks though.
I resemble that remark.

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>>35079505
What is that, and what's in it? That looks fucking good.

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>>35079618
Just scrambled eggs with some sauteed onions, green peppers, apple, sausage, and cheese.

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Its cloudy again, and since it's my birthday and I had nothing to do, I took some better pictures of my 1895 Chilean.

>>35079296
>You guys are meh cooks though
You wouldn't say that to my poached fish or my pulled pork.

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I don't even know why I like this gun os much, but I find it so fascinating.

My Gewehr 98 should be at the FFL Friday. I'm so excited to tap it and get a scope on it for deer season

>>35080036
It's a lovely Mauser.

Anyone know what I should reasonably expect to pay for a Brazilian police Vergueiro?

>>35079296
why were the barrels threaded on Swedish Mausers?
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/690043519

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>>35079744
I've got to write this down so I don't forget.

>>35080236
It's for the blank shredder adapter. The wooden bullets of the blanks can be dangerous, so they attached a device on the end of the barrel that shredded them to pieces.

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>>35080335
keked

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So are these things folded 100000 times/blessed by the emperor?

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>>35080091
Yeah. Scopes are essential. I just drilled my first STG 44. Gonna load it with ratshot for dove season. Anyone else done that one? Hard to know where to drill lol.

Finally picked up my M95 carbine today, and the condition is both better and worse than I expected. It's completely missing the ejector and the rear ladder sight is broken somewhat, not to mention the handguard is missing the left side wing that goes around the rear sight, but the stock is in much better condition than I expected and the metal looks great. I don't know exactly how to feel. It was labeled as an incomplete rifle for somebody to piece back together, but the only missing parts listed were a few screws and the front sight. On the bright side, even with the new parts I have to order the whole project should only cost me around $250 to somewhat bring a rifle back from the dead, so I don't completely mind it.

Also, is the trigger supposed to be wobbly? Whenever I have the bolt out, the trigger likes to wobble back and forth, more than it probably should.

>>35080430
Extractor, not ejector. Been reading about ejectors too much I guess

>>35080423
You think I'm joking, that's the funny part

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>>35080638
pls dont

>>35079296

Welp, wildfires are heading my way...I wonder if all my funs can fit in my car.

>>35080674
rip forgot to clear my name

Schools started back up and all the "where can I get a k98 for cheap?" left theses threads empty again. Imagine that

Where can I get a WW1 original German M1 Grand?

>>35081830
where do i get me a nazi gun cheap, all i can find is expensive stuff and the world revolves around me getting what i want

>>35081841
With war eagles?

>>35081830

Where can I get a cheap Luger?

>>35081848

Do you know where I can get a cheap War Eagle? My budget's about tree fiddy.

>>35081959
The 1960s

>>35081845
You could buy from sweaty Ben the next time he gets a "private collection" in

>>35080430
>Also, is the trigger supposed to be wobbly? Whenever I have the bolt out, the trigger likes to wobble back and forth, more than it probably should.


I got an m95 longrifle yesterday. Doesnt wobble. sounds like you got a busted one

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>lebels finally being posted
>now spent money on a fitness trainer to get fit again

WELL FUCK ME

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I've been browsing some Mauser prices on J&G and Simpson and wow have they spiked upward recently. I guess since Classic has managed to sell their pile of turds others are going to try to jump on the wagon.
>mis-matching Vz.98/22 for $750
Kek.

>>35080036
Check out this Mauser Model 1907 rifle with the same pattern of holes in the stock as your Chilean M95; I wonder if they were in the same museum together?
http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_info.php?cPath=350_351_353&products_id=42186

If any of you are interested in modern milsurp Apex just got brand new galil kits with barrels.

Going to be sweet irony purging the globalists with one.

>>35082331
>modern

wrong thread

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why are black powder cartridge rifles so much fun

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My Swedish m96 was in the winter war. Does it count if it has an SA stamp?

where to buy milsurp fal

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>>35082802

It doesn't have to serve to count. Otherwise K31s wouldn't count.

>>35082339
Still milsurp you gunist. Black guns matter

>>35082814
3rd world country

Otherwise they don't exist

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>>35082339
>weighs a ton
>shitty mags
>brass breaks your thumb if you mortar out a
stuck casing
it's not modern. It's milsurp at this point

>>35082985
Doesn't it dent the brass upon ejection?

>>35082299
Fascinating. I always though the holes were for a side-mounted scope mount, but the holes in the rifle in your link are almost the exact same as mine. What's strange is that the stock on my Chilean is the only part that isn't matching. Now I have to wonder if this rifle was displayed, or the rifle that went with the stock? There is good story potential in this.

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Evening, lads. I've probably been seen here before asking about Garands and the CMP. Im currently in a situation where I have close to everything I need, save for the GCA membership card which is still processing and has been since the second of this month. Along with that, I need at least one RO to fill out and sign a CMP marksmanship form(whilst I demonstrate familiarity with firearm safety and operation), because none of the other options are available to me. Otherwise, I have to wait til the end of the month and apply for a CCL on my 21st birthday, or wait til the second of October and do this with a certain Sawgrass shooting club that holds monthly matches at a range I frequent. Issue is I've tried two outdoor ranges so far and at both the RO's refused to do this with me. In addition, given the current nature of milsurp, the last thing I want is for the CMP to run out of Garands (again) before I'm even ready to order. Can anyone give me some advice regarding this? It's all so upsetting.

The file in question for the curious: http://thecmp.org/wp-content/uploads/marksmanship.pdf

>>35079933
Happy birthday bro!

>>35079933
happy birthday friend
pre-order yourself one of the Ian dakimakuras. No, really, Karl said body pillows are coming

>>35080347
He's not fucking with you.

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>>35079296
>Remember the Finnish M39 I bought is stuck in limbo because I sent the guy I bought it from a personal check instead of a cashier's check

Curse my stupidity.

>>35083269
I used a C&R license for mine.
But I also had a gun shop near me willing to sign for the firearm familiarity form.
Maybe try that.

>>35083514
Worst decision ever.

Should've gotten a 10/22 or an AR.

There is no cheap 7mm. Best you'll find is $15 a box.

>>35083514
get a job, hippie. I fell for that meme too, though not as my first
Also, I bought the last of the PPU 7x57 from midway a couple weeks ago(all 2 boxes of it)

>>35083534
You're really dumb. You could have done a money order, too.

>>35082491
Lgs near me has a veterli in ok to good shape with a sound stock. I think they wanted 400 something for it. It's a Swiss one and unconverted I believe

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>>35082985
Das sexy.

I got an apex kit just so i could make an ARM, not sure what i'll do whit the SAR now

>>35082491
Does your Vetterli have a really tight lockup? Even with no cartridge in the chamber in take a a fair amount of force to engage the locking lugs. The elevator also takes quite some force to be operated. I can't really actuate it well by moving the bolt slowly.

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I'm buying a M28-30 next week.

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>>35083011
pretty severely, to the point I can't use it for hand-loads
>>35083725
I didn't know they had ARM kits in stock

>>35083718
that's pretty high IMO, I got mine for 200 in good shape unconverted.
>>35083787
it's stiff, you have to run the bolt hard for everything or else you'll have malfunctions.

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The carpet jew is doing something screwy with this Lebel. Even if it is rearsenaled it most likely wouldn't have a serial number crossed out and restamped

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/691280765

>>35083899
It may have been mid to high 300 but I figured it was on the high side. How much work would it be to get a bolt converted and get a reloading setup?

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>>35083677
D-don't tell me you browse /k/ too.

>>35083899
>I didn't know they had ARM kits in stock
They just sent the email out yesterday. They're technically just AR kits as its missing the carry handle. But all the gas blocks are bipod cut.

>>35083931
Forced matched serial numbers are fairly common.

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Anyone wanna join the "greatest battle rifle" club?

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/690497115

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I love my 88/05

>>35082331
Oof
Who is making receivers now?
If I chose to get the demilled receiver with it, could it be rewelded?

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>>35084273
There's a M34 conversion, MAS 44, Syrian 49, and now that up for auction. My wallet is crying.

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>>35084364
>>35084273
MAS 36>MAS 49/56

>>35084364
You dont need to advertise things that I'm watching like a French hawk.

>>35080335
>tfw you will never operate a swedish mauser firing less lethal wooden shreds into crowds for riot control

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>>35083514
>Why does nobody make shittyy steel case
Lol.

>>35083814
>I'm buying a M28-30 next week.
Congrats. I passed on a 1940-dated one for $350 a couple weeks ago because it was not even Finn-matching, and hadn't been modified to chamber D166 which made it a less-desirable candidate for a shooter.

Grey blanket fag has a gun that I want, and it's cheap ATM too.

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Got myself a post war Czech Brno made K98k last week. Numbers matching, and came with original sling. Paid 450€ for it. It's in excellent condition and I can't wait to take it to the range. I also got myself a Spanish made German pattern bayonet for it, it was cheap and is in good condition. It feels pretty cool knowing my grandfather most likely carried one of these back in WWII.

Here's a gallery of high res pics for ya: https://imgur.com/a/dvrZ6

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>>35085870
He does sell legit stuff too, you just have to be very well-informed on the correct characteristics of what you want in order to determine if he's messed with it.

>>35084529
So I shouldn't spread the love?

>>35085970
Damn that is a nice looking rifle. I don't know much about the price of Czech k98s but I would pay that much for that nice of a rifle. What's your cunt, anon?

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>>35079963
95 Chilean! Here's mine.

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>>35085970
>post war Czech Brno made K98k
BR(N)O-fist.

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>>35079963

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>>35083493
I genuinely thought that it was a Sweden joke

>>35084529
>Watching like a French Hawk
For way to to surrender?

>>35086915
Yeah, it is a very nice looking rifle, I'm really happy with it.

They're basically just K98ks made from leftover WWII and new manufacture parts after the war. Besides the markings they're identical to German/Wartime K98ks. The markings don't really as much value here as in the US, for a really nice original one sure, but if it's worn and looks like shit not even the markings drive up the price. I had this one evaluated by a gun store guy I know. He says it's a fantastic buy and a very good deal, especially for the condition it's in. To put things in perspective, the nice German/marked ones cost 600€ and up if you're lucky, usually more.

I'm Austrian, our gun laws are actually pretty chill. Basically anything not self loading over a certain length falls under Cat. C&D and those can be bought at 18 requiring you only to register the gun. For Self loaders and handguns you require a Cat. B license but it's not that hard to get. Can only have two guns on it, but after five years you can extend it. Stupid thing though, all self loaders are considered war material unless exempted by model so the variety is quite limited. We can get AUGs ofc., some AR15s, an SG550 variant, and some civilian self loaders. You can get pretty much any handgun though. No pump action shotguns though, our politicians had a brain fart sometime in the 90s with those, they're now considered war material. Pump action rifles are fine though, go figure.

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>>35087036

>>35087029
>Czech Brno vz.98
BR(N)O-fist back. That's a nice one! I could have snatched a german G98 a few months back but those 400m min. sights are useless here. Our ranges in Austria are usually 100m. The biggest one here has 300m, but it's reservation only from what I can tell.

Do you have a range where you can shoot it at ~400m?

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>>35087097

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>>35087110
>Do you have a range where you can shoot it at ~400m?
No, my gun club range only goes to 200 yards. 400m zero works fine at 50 yards using S-Patrone. Shooting at 100 and 200 is a bit of a challenge because of the hold-under.
>aim at dick
>hit target in face

Red is Turkish surplus, which is a copy of the original German 1905 S-Patrone which fires 154gr @2936fps; green is Israeli surplus which is 170gr @~2500fps.

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But when you look this good, you don't have to hit ANYTHING.
>captcha:ESTETICA End of

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>>35084798
>>35087050
>mfw own the wooden blanks and the shredder
>my m/96 is from 1900 and not threaded

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>>35087148
Jelly. Mines not in close to as good of shape as that

>>35087150
>>35087164

>>35087150
Ah I see, yeah I don't want to deal with hold-under, that's why I got the K98k. Even my M48A is annoying with the 200m zero at 100m, can't imagine a 400m zero. At least for target shooting. Combat was probably fine.

>German shoots at floor in front of a Frenchie.
>Frenchie falls over, dick disintegrated
>German chuckles

There's not really much surplus ammo around in Austria. I use 196grs S&B FMJs. Don't know the rest of the specs right now. A 50 pack costs 45€, pretty much the least expensive. They shoot pretty well out the M48A. Haven't tested them in the K98k yet. Can't wait for the weekend. Saturday is range day.

>But when you look this good, you don't have to hit ANYTHING.
True that.

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>>35087217
The 1912s are hard to find in good shape, especially unmessed with still in 7x57. There's a mint one on GB right now for 2,250.

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>>35087211
I'm happy that my tip isn't cut (for threads).
>that blank adapter
No cuck cage for this Swede.

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>>35087262
Geez I paid $375 for mine

Is Turkish 8mm surplus ammo any good? It seems plentiful enough for the time being

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>>35087148

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>>35087558
No it's terrible; send to me for safe disposal.

>>35084364
You forgot the R35 Lebel carbine.

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Not pictured is my m1917, which is in pieces at the moment

>>35085972

The price doubled overnight, so that probably means that it'll be well beyond what I'm comfortable paying before it ends.

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>>35087439
Yeah they are out of control now. That's a nice sharp cartouche! Here's one of my 1935 Brazilians.

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>>35087439
>>35088140
I got mine from sweaty Ben's last batch as a graduation present for myself. Paid $270.

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Quick collection photo, my phone camera is insanely bad so try to ignore the bad quality.

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>>35088412
Better than mine...

>>35088493
is that an 88 commission rifle up top?

>>35088493
I'm keeping my eyes and ears open for a K98. with an eighth rifle i could take even worse quality pictures.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/690342160
who wants a ranch for $69?

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>>35088545
It's an 88/05/35 I picked up at a local pawn shop around a month ago.

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>>35088412
'Mirin that 28-30.

>>35088493
Don't put yourself down; you both have things that I covet.

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>>35088291
Unissued 95 all matching

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>>35088658
True, I just turned 23 yesterday, so I've got plenty of time to collect more.

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>>35088683
Here's a correct/matching HRA Garand

>>35088680
Mine matches except for the stock.

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Did someone say Finnish Mosins?

>>35088412

Not bad, the stock on that Mosin is sexy and I still want a blade bayonet SKS.

>>35088578

I'd love one, except that I wouldn't want to actually, you know, ranch.

What are the best sites to buy an SKS (Norinco included)? gunbroker?

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>>35087595
Is that a non-refurb?

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>>35087595

>>35089057

I think Sweaty Ben and SOG both still have them in stock.

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>>35088658
I love it, here is the receivers for the two Finns i have. top is the 28/30 and bottom is the M39.

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>>35089268
I love them, However my Eddystone M1917 reminds me it is king at the range every time i go.

>>35088747
Finn Mosin love!!!!

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>>35088941
All matching Tula SKS, found it at a gun shop. Also, gonna include a shot of that Finn in the sun.

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>>35089268
>>35089299
Very nice.

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>>35088493
it could be worse
also this is the accumulation over 4+ years

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Hopefully tomorrow I'm gonna update this. I've got a MAS 36, K98k and 1868 Trapdoor since this was taken.

>>35089427
Finn mosins are for sure very desirable.

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>>35089088
>>35089211

I think it is. It has import markings, but it certainly doesn't look arsenal refinished. There is some bluing wear on the grip by the trigger guard, the trigger itself, and the wood grip itself is worn pretty good. It is all matching (including the wood grip), and has the leather flap holster.

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Rifle family photo, excuse the awful pic/lighting quality, just took it as soon as I finished putting up the hooks. Only one that's missing is my M95 carbine, but it wouldn't fit on the wall, sling swivels got in the way.

>>35090186
slav trash

slav trash

gook trash

gook trash

>>35090220
Closet Nazi detected.

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And my M95 in all its parts-missing glory. This thing is incredibly light, super handy little rifle.

>>35090220
The bottom one's actually roach trash but it's pretty much the same thing I guess

>>35084312
Ohio rapid fire if you like troubleshooting.

CNC warrior if you have the fat cash and don't plan to mount a scope.

Could reweld. You have to judge your own ability

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We posting milsurp family photos?

Minus A couple members becauae this picture is old...

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>>35090477
I already posted mine in the thread here >>35088493 a little while ago, so have this solo nugget instead.

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>>35090629
I'm gonna rape you and steal that stock.

Is there a good Mosin-style paste guide? Every shop I go in has like 10 mosin-style rifles chambered in all sorts of calibers with markings of all sorts of countries, and they all start looking the same. Almost bought a mosin or Mauser from the Spanish civil war but it had a long split in the wood and that bothered me.

Grey Blanket Fag has a Vetterli up.

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>>35090727
That wouldn't be very nice.

Also, slightly late yet awesome birthday present from my mom (she saw me eyeballing it at out local antique/trinket store a few days ago). Now I can store some of my surp stuff in it..

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>>35088696
>correct HRA Garand.
Ayyy. '55 here.

>>35090780
....

What?

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>>35091083
>That wouldn't be very nice.
Don't pretend you wouldn't like either of those things.

>>35091104
The only way you are getting that stock from me is if I get your MAS 36 as a replacement.

>>35090780
B8 but I'll bite

They're Mauser rifles retard

Is choosing a milsup rifle as my first gun a poor choice?

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>>35091390
yes, get an AR or a cheap AK.

>>35091390

If you're looking for a PRACTICAL gun? Yes. Get a cheap AR or AK, or .22. If you have no interest in guns for practical purposes then get whatever you want.

>>35091390
Yes, it is a poor choice. You would be better served by a 22 or an AR.

anyone know where I can get surplus 8x56? or really just 8x56 on mags.

>inb4 gunbroker

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Finn carcano

>>35091845

I got one of those. Ammo is stupid though.

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>mfw the new leather strap on my lebel won't button
I hate being a lanklet

>>35091912
By new I mean an original strap, not a fudd hunting sling

>>35091912
oats and squats son

>>35091084
Same. 1-55 HRA barrel on that one, 5.5m sn range.

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>>35083932
you can do the conversion yourself with a dremel, drill, RCBS decapping pin, and chunk of aluminium. the reloading set up is tricky.
-buy 8mm lebel brass and lee 41 swiss reloading dies.
-run the brass through the depriming die with the decapping pin removed
-cut off the neck and chamfer it
-anneal the case neck
-prime with LR primer
-load with 12gr unique
-take up the rest of the space with cream of wheat
-cap with melted wax
-fire this through the rifle (it's loud)
-clean the brass
-trim to final length (1.585")
-fill with 45gr FFFG black powder
-fill the empty space with cream of wheat
-cap with a .44cal cardboard wad level with the case mouth, this way the seating will compress your powder slightly.
-lee seating die is asshole so I use a semi-jank set up on my RCBS (pic) with a 44 cal seating die
-I'm using a 252gr kieth .429 projectile, slug your bore and chose a projectile that's one or two thousandths oversized. chose a projectile that doesn't have a gas check recess or else the bullet won't seat well.
-seat depth of exactly 2.200" or else it won't feed reliably from the magazine
-remove everything from the seating die and use it to crimp the finished cartridge.
-once you've fired the cartridges put them in boiling water and add oxyclean as soon as you can, it removes almost all of the powder fouling and will make your brass last longer

Buffalo arms makes a proper 300grain bullet mold but it's been out of stock forever. I've filmed everything for a how to reload the 41 swiss video but I never bothered throwing it all together and putting it up.

ignore the fact that the bullets are paper patched in the picture, it didn't work well.

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>>35092507
dimensions for bolt conversion, may vary on your rifle

>didn't pick up a crate's worth of Steyr M95/34s when J&G was selling them for $69 a piece ~4 years ago
I only bought one. That was dumb of me.

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>>35092507
>>35092707
Thanks for the guide friendo. You should definitely put up a video set on YouTube for this. I'm sure it'd be hella useful for other anons on there

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So I'm considering this type 99. They want $295 for it. They say it's missing the mono pod and aa sight wings but has the points for them. No mum, but the bore is supposed to be good. Is this a deal or should I shop around?

>>35093245
That's a fair deal. You aren't getting a bargain but you aren't getting fucked either.

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>>35093245
decent deal, but you can always save up and shop around for a type 99 that's nicer and will increase in value more

>>35092171
Mines dated 10-55 and 5.69 million.

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>>35093278
I guessed as much, but its high on my milsurp priorities list and its a better deal than the ones on simpson.

What should I look for in a Finn mosin? Is $650 a reasonable price

>>35093492
Depends on the model, maker, condition. You need to be way more specific.

>>35093492
depends on the type
$650 is not very good unless it's a less uncommon variant
personally I like the M39 the most in terms of looks and they are about $400 right now

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>>35089886
Just because hand nugget
>1915 Tula
>discreet under barrel import mark

found 2 laminated mosins for $120 in gunshop today,bought both.


how I do?

>>35093629
breddy gud

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>>35093614
>>35084463
Also since I'm here.. I always post pic related

>>35093571
>>35093574
It's a Sako m39ade in 1944 with no rust a decent bore + crown according to the seller, and he is selling it for $650
But I'm also just trying to learn more and see what y'all say as I'm not 100% set on buying this one specifically.

>>35093629
Robbery

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>>35093645
sweaty ben was selling sakos for like $320 a few weeks ago

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>>35093638
Hey, we're matching! I love the design of Sestroyetsk's markings, it's so much better than all the others.

>>35092871
>didnt buy the Italian stock of Carcanos in the 50s for a cool $3 a pop
Feels bad man

Speaking of Carcanos, I'm currently the high bidder on this: http://www.gunbroker.com/item/687324181 On a scale of 0 to dun, how much am I goofing?

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>>35093687
Nice Tula

>want

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Who fucking did It?

>>35093645
It's worth like 450 tops

>>35094418
Borderline goofing if it goes any higher than 230. Both of those have condition issues. Neither are particularity desirable even in best condition

>>35094953

Yeah, I have a Finn M38 already, but I kind of want a 6.5 Carcano.

>>35094991
Get an original 1891 Long Rifle then. There is a pretty nice 1898 Terni on gunbroker right now

So whats the process for cleaning an SKS after shooting corrosive? I tried looking it up online and everybody seems to have a different method. Some say to just pour some warm water down the barrel and gas system to neutralize the salts then clean as normal. Some say you need to do the whole guns and the bolt. Do I even need to use water? Is CLP not good enough?

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>>35094744
You did ya goober.

>>35095077
Fuck water. Just take out the bolt and bolt carrier, main spring and gas tube, piston, secondary piston and spring. Brake clean them and wipe them down and re oil as you normally would. Do the same to the chamber and barrel and run a snake through.

If you just shot a little then only bother with the bolt and snake it. Imo

>>35095281
That guy does a pretty good JJBA cosplay

>>35095077
Just pee all over your gun

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Any of you guys know what this thing they're carrying is?

>>35095636
a famas

>>35095636
helicopter egg

>>35095636
Knowing the muhreen corps.
It's probably just some heavy useless shit that nobody is trained how to use and they make the boots carry it around to prove to the higher ups that their expensive gear is being used.
It'll be used as a bench more likely than not.

t. pissed off veteran

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>>35093687
>>35093638
Fuck me I need an M91.

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>>35096352
I'm glad I found mine.

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>>35091896
yea. I have like 75 rounds left. PPU just started making it too.

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>>35096501
me 2

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>>35093245
Fug. I caved and bought it. We'll know how bad I goofed when it gets here. At least my Type 38 will have a friend

>>35083718
Way to much. I got mine for 200 and a sporter for 175. I also have original ammo for it and center fire.

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>>35098094
That's a pretty looking Arisaka.

>>35095002

I really shouldn't be buying much of anything ATM really. Also there's 2 gun shows this weekend.

That was mostly a throwaway bid, I figured I wouldn't win it, but if I got it for under $200 then it would be pretty nice.

>>35097022
I thought they were just making the brass.

Maybe they will get around to 6.5 Dutch afterall.

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>>35096352
So go get one

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>>35098256
Thanks man. Hopefully the new one looks half as good

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1891 infantry rifle representing.

>>35098309
>anything ATM really
You never go ATM.

I just bought a 1916 Spanish Mauser. Anything to expect? I've heard that they can go boom but I don't know if that's fuddlore or not. Is that from people loading extra spicy loads?

>>35098836

You don't know me, you don't know my life.

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>Have to replace sump pump
>New one is $320
>Float broken right out of the fucking box
>No returns, have to make a warranty claim
>Have to buy another pump
Fuck this gay Earth. That's my gun money now.

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>>35098990
I hate it when things are broken right out of the box. I had that happen with a computer monitor a few years ago.

>>35089430
cute ar
makes me wish i didnt have a magpul $500 abomination

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>tfw go through my sling pile
>tfw forget what some of them went to

We need to weaponize autism into a sling reference book.

>>35099154
>tfw you'll never own a CR39

If the planets align and the gun gods smile on me, I may have a 1895 Winchester in 7.62x54 for $500

Pray for me /msg/

>>35099231

In other words, you're robbing someone.

>>35099231
post pictures if true.

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>>35098877
Fuddlore that goes all the way back to the Spanish Civil War, or maybe even the Spanish-American War.

>>35099263
>you're robbing someone.
$500 buys a lot of Hi-Points; he'll obviously have the squad to back him up.

>>35099295
Will do if it happens. Like I said I need a bit of luck, but the possibility is there.
>>35099320
I know the guy, he's white.

>>35099320
The fuddlore surrounding the M1916 mostly surrounds the .308 versions.

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>>35099174
Never say never...

>>35099320
>>35099350
I guess I'll just wear eyepro and hope for the best then

>>35099325
>Like I said I need a bit of luck, but the possibility is there
Will it be functioning?

>>35099320
>Fuddlore
this is also fuddlore.

Why do people say you can shoot .308 in a military bolt action but shooting 7.62 NATO in a commercial could kaboom?


Same fucking reason people say don't use .308 in a 7.62 CETME. You're just gambling.

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>>35099366
You bought one to make me jelly?

And FYI, the receiver tang on true CR39s are square, while all other Mle 1936s are circular. It's a good way to know fakes. Of course, all CR39s should have an F prefix too.

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>>35099542
>Why do people say you can shoot .308 in a military bolt action but shooting 7.62 NATO in a commercial could kaboom?
You have it backwards, actually.

>Same fucking reason people say don't use .308 in a 7.62 CETME. You're just gambling.
All of the rifles were in 7.62NATO, not 7.62CETME. Furthermore, 7.62CETME is a lower recoiling round, not a lower pressure round.

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>>35099542
>>35099575
This is from the manual. 7.62CETME has virtually identical pressure of 7.62NATO. If you read what Santa Barbara arsenal (the ammunition plant) says they are the same pressure.

>>35099575
so its fine then, so long as i shoot Real effin NATO, but not .308?

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>>35099606
No, you can shoot both .308 and 7.62NATO. The retards who claimed that .308 is wildly higher pressures are idiots. They just read the wiki page and assumed that the two measurements are somehow interchangeable, but they are not. The measurement for .308 used a modern piezoelectric sensor to record pressure, while the 7.62NATO measurement was the much older method of a crushed copper disk. The Wiki article for 7.62NATO has been updated, yet idiots keep spreading this myth.

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>>35099627
That's a relief. I was afraid I'd bought something dangerous to fire

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Posting my 1928 Tula. Since it was made in 1928, does that mean it's an M91 instead of an M91/30? I've also heard the term ex dragoon tossed around with Mosins made in the 1920's. How can you tell if it is one?

>>35099753
It's an ex-dragoon. They turned a dragoon into a M91/30.

>>35099374
Functioning with bayonet

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>>35099753
>Since it was made in 1928, does that mean it's an M91 instead of an M91/30? I've also heard the term ex dragoon tossed around with Mosins made in the 1920's.
M91 infantry-length rifle production ceased entirely in 1926. M91 infantry rifles are longer than M91 Dragoon-length rifles. Your rifle was originally built as an M91 Dragoon. Sometime after the Model 91/30 rifle was introduced your rifle was updated with the new M30 front and rear sights, effectively making it M91/30 configuration rather than its original Dragoon configuration.

>>35079296
Just picked up a 1888/05 Gewehr for $250. No turk marks looks all matching

>>35099561
No, not yet I haven't. Was thinking about it for my birthday this year but looks like I'm going to have to put that on pause because no one can build a fucking reliable sump pump.

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>>35099824
Photo 1

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>>35099838

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>>35099826
>because no one can build a fucking reliable sump pump.
Alternatively, just move south where no one has a basement.

>>35099860
>Giving up 1000sqft of living space that is all mine
>Living in the south
Don't see any advantage at all really.

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so now that I've started my trip down the Argentino rabbit hole do I get an 1891 or 1909 next?

>>35095636
this 100% for sure >>35096218

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>>35099860
>where no one has a basement.
What's the point? When your house gets blown down that often do you really want to have to carry all the bits up out of a hole, too?

>>35100122
Why not both?

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These two slings look familiar? They're carbine length, and just closure studs on both sides. though one side has 6 or so extra holes.


I think i bought them for carcanos, but i can't find any reasoning behind that. The only mark they have is a BK in a circle, which is a Yugoslavian acceptance mark (assuming someone else didn't also use it).

>>35099174
>tfw you'll never own a M27 Lebel

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>>35100145
I limit myself to one gun per show.... most of the times.

>>35097060
Hi, Dutchman here. Here in NL, people often say our rifles in WW2 sucked because 'lol 1800s rifle amirite guys', meanwhile veterans in interviews say they could part a guys hair at 200 meters with it and that it was a perfectly fine gun. Am I right to assume the truth is in the middle?

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>>35100254
>buying a bubba'd Type 99

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>>35100363
>50$

>>35100363

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess he couldn't resist a series 1 gun.

>Wanted to take new family photos today
>Smoke still so thick that I can't see the end of the driveway

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>>35100411
Well, I guess you could always sell it for $75 or $100 if you're lucky.
>>35100412
First series guns are common though.

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Took a cute picture of my britbong guns.

>>35099779
>>35099820
Makes sense. It was sold as an M91/30 complete with cosmoline and all but I can't find another stock that will fit it.

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>>35100411
That poor long rifle.

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>>35100335
yes. they are very nice rifles. smoothest of all the bolt actions aside from the Ross IMHO.

however the carbines have a lot of jump at the muzzle when fired, so obviously they are not as accurate as the long rifles -- however they do shoot very, very straight and the rounds seem to have a very flat trajectory. I only have limited experience shooting mine though.

Oh man are no5s $500 now? My LGS has one.

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>>35100122
1891 is more fun in my opinion.

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>>35099838
>>35099846
I came.

love me some Gew88s

What's the best vintage for a Carcano?

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>>35100335
Almost all the WW2 bolt rifles were 19th century rifles. The only exception are the Mas 36 and the 1903a3. The Dutch rifles are capable, though they do have some flaws.
>>35101264
>smoothest of all the bolt actions aside from the Ross IMHO.
I think you're forgetting another rifle...

>>35101336
Up until 1915 they used walnut stocks and they seem to be less slapdash. Generally anything pre WW1 that doesn't have huge condition issues. That being said the Carcano from the beginning is pretty well optimized for production and only goes through some minor mechanical changes so you get fairly consistently built guns.

>>35101340

Depends, the Type 38 was wildly redesigned from the Type 30, you could argue it's a new gun.

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>>35101340
Nope. Didn't forget. Dutchies and Rosses are smoother.

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>>35101379
Oh yeah, I did forget about those.
>>35101393
My Portuguese Mannlicher isn't as smooth as my Greek.

>>35094953

It's at $232 now, I bowed out a while ago.

Just got 160 rounds of Pervy Partisan 7.5 Frog along with 60 fired cases for $115.

R8 n H8

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Do people here like their surp in mint condition, or ones that have some wear and character?

>>35102048

I can't afford and don't REALLY want museum pieces. All my 'surp shows use to some degree, some of it would probably go as low as "fair" but I still like them.

>>35102048
Wear means it's used, give me a rifle with some character. As long as it's still in good shootable condition.

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>>35102048
slightly attractive beaters are my preference t.bh

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>>35102048
I can't do mint guns. They just seem so fake, and almost a shame to shoot. I try and get very-good but I have a soft spot for the neglected.

>>35102048
Both. But I prefer rougher condition guns as shooters.

Also the guns that are beat to shit are the ones that were actually used in battle, more often than not. So they're more interesting to me historically.

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>>35102048
It depends on what kind it is. Is it a standard 91/30? I'd prefer like new or minty if possible. My Mas? Beat is fine especially since it's sexy regardless of wear. Honestly as long as it's not pitted or rusted and the stock is sound I'm fine

>>35101306
desu I know nearly nothing about them and watched Othais' video on it after buying it. I also love mausers and ones that I can actually shoot.

>>35102048
Mint condition is nice, but not essential. I shoot them either way though.

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It's not too late to post food is it?

post ammo

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>>35102048
I prefer really good condition wood, but pristine bluing is generally a turn-off. My Turkish 1903/30 has my favorite combo, great wood with worn metal.

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>>35102381
What kind?

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>>35102381
Here's some clips so you can do some damage.

Oh, and a gato.

>>35102436
8mm lebel? Or is that 6.5 carcano?

>>35102463
Dutch

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>>35102381

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>>35102463
6.5x53 Dutch for my Portuguese Mannlicher.

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What are the most desirable/rare Type 99 and 38 manufacturers? Trying to expand my limited knowledge on Japanese firearms.

>>35102558
>>35102493
Rare?

>>35102633
Dutch rifles, not so much. But the Portuguese short rifles? They only made 4000. So yeah, they're fairly rare. Not as rare as the Romanian Mannlichers though.

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>>35102371
>not having it speared on the bayonet

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>>35102957
I'd like to see how long it can last up there, I never knew pumpkins grew on trees.

>>35103128

>Extend bayonet
>Throw rifle at fascist pumpkin
>Victory for the motherland

>>35102561
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vbWOni8dGq8
https://youtube.com/watch?v=beDlh_1tBHE 24:35

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>>35103128
I thought that was some kind of tree fruit; damn you have to leave that up there then.

>>35102048
I like it to be worn but still in a good serviceable condition. I think bluing fading and some wear in the stock is pretty cool looking.
However I'm not too happy that the oils in my one rifle's stock have really oxidized. I've heard a wet cloth of kerosene can wipe it down and bring back the true colors but I'm not sure if this is a good idea or not. I really don't want to fuck with my rifle and leave it with no oil at all and make the wood vulnerable and I definitely don't want to put a new coat of oil on it.

Is there a cheat sheet as to proper sight picture with the various sights and rifles?

I'm terrible at milsurp shooting, I'm probably over thinking it but the V notch with a Blade doesn't line up very well, Barleycorns just seem weird, I've heard some rifles are supposed to burry the front sight into the bottom of the V and other nations taught them to just aim for their dick.


Shits confuzzling yo.

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>>35103589
C&Rsenal has a a lot of them.

http://candrsenal.com/primer-wwi-album/

Before new thread: what's everyone's prefered Mosin food? I like PPU's brass case shit, but didn't know if Brown Bear or others might be a good cost-saver.

>>35103917
Russian cold war surplus

>>35103917

RED ARMY STANDARD


really i have surplus i'm saving for the purge war

>>35103652
A number of those are incorrect sight pictures. For the Carcano the top of the post should be buried in the V

>>35103936
>>35103973

Fair enough. Is Red Army Standard on the cheaper side of prices?

>>35104464
Not for steel and most places that sell it overprice.

>>35104464
I bought a spam can in November for $150 but good luck finding one now. Your best bet is to try and find loose surplus rounds at an LGS or gunshow. Silver/brown bear isn't terrible and is fairly cheap

>>35104487
About a year and a half ago some website made a pricing mistake on spam cans so I bought a crate for $200. Its sitting in my basement unopened until I go thru a can of opened chinese surplus

>>35093638
This was one of the first /k/ related images I ever saved. Thank you anon.

>>35103917
My handloads. No more expensive than steel cased and I never have a sticky bolt problem.

>>35105202
Anytime anon. Now let's go shoot it too

Well, image limit reached, whats the theme for the next thread?

>>35104487
That's what I'm thinking, silver or brown bear.