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This mosin recently went up for auction.
1942 Izhevsk. Nothing special about it.

Guess the hammer price.

>>34985098
300 doll hairs

>>34985123
Pretty close. $258.75 (including the Auction House Premium)
I'd bet if you include shipping or tax or transfer, you'd probably hit 300.

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>>34984922
No, I scratched it while pushing the guide rod in to take it out

It's unfortunate, but I use it now to try to warn other Stop owners about the inherent dangers of taking it down

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>>34985180
Fug, wrong picture.

I'm able to hide it with MS Paint, at least.

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>>34985156
I am winrar

>>34985180
>>34985191
Umderstood, I just won't mess with that then, only take out the bolt and barrel to clean.

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i love that the msg threads are really taking off, but you guys are blowing through the image/bump limit faster than I can make more than 2 posts.

original mauser best mauser.

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>>34985098
>>34985123
>>34985156
I've seen them do even worse than that. (~500) people are crazy.

That hammer price was more than I paid for my K-29, hell my actual 98a only cost me $350.

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got my bloop on today at the range with a few choice /k/ommandos.

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>>34985740
Well, you have to disconnect the guide rod from the bolt carrier in order to pull the barrel and bolt out

Just be careful when putting pressure on the guide rod and twisting it. What I do now is cupping my other hand over the front of the gun when pushing and twisting the screw part of the guide rod

>>34984913
Does anyone here know if those silicone gun socks really work?
I have a M1917 that keeps getting mold all over the wood and I'm afraid it will lead to rust.

>>34986158
You need to kill the mold first or else it will keep coming back no matter what you put the gun in.

>>34986227
Is there a good way to do that without ruining the wood?

>>34986127
I thought you meant when taking the guide rod out. I dunno I'm confused. When I push the guide rod and twist, I usually am careful, I just don't know what I would be scratching. I appreciate the advice though

>>34986158
>>34986265
get a cedar chest or a good dehumidifier for your safe. silicone socks are okay, but not good enough alone.

for the mold, it depends on the type of mold, but find a non-aggressive soap like dawn or maybe some rubbing alcohol and soak a rag in it and hit it with that. clean it off and then spritz it with some remoil and put it up.

shouldnt have anymore issues.

>>34986361
I usually am too, but I pushed down too hard and to the side that I ended up slipping off of the slot on the guide rod and slid down the side of my gun. Just me being a fucking idiot

If someone was still looking for a Lebel

1886 Carbine with bayonet currently sitting at 600
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/681631036

>>34986158
Is the stock properly finished?

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snuggle guns

>>34986506
Oh I understand now, I'll watch that when I disassemble mine in the future. Thanks for the heads up

>>34986367
Thanks for the advice. I have a golden rod on the way so hope that helps. >>34986652
Most likely not. The gun is a mismatch of parts from a friends grandpa and what I coule find online.
I'm pretty sure the stock was refinished at one point but have no way to know how. Could still be orginal or someone could have just coated the thing in boiled linseed oil and called it good.

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>mfw I get 2 new guns next week AND I'll be off work and school so I'm gonna spend a whole day having a photoshoot and maintenance day.

>>34985156

That's about what they cost from SOG, which is the only primary channel that I see with them in stock.

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http://www.gunbroker.com/item/685764472

You know I normally don't post shit like this, but I thought it was entertaining:

>Wehrmacht proof marked receiver

>Israeli conversion rifle

>Proceeds to drill and tap it

>Throws fuddley do-right sights on it

>Puts a new barrel on it for reasons

>Completely fucks the gun by doing these mods to it

>but find myself not shooting it so it is time to go.

>Reserve Not Met

>mfw

Sup lads I have an unusual German pistol that I think is from WW1 (the one with the really swept back grip) and it has a ridiculously long barrel. I love it but I also really wanna conceal carry it. I'm probably gonna chop the barrel to around two inches and make a clean little snubby out of it. What do y'all think? Would that be cool?

I am not giving you, a (you). Just know that the post in here ending in 7393 sucks at bait. Just stop and go troll /arg/. Its easier.

>>34987393
we already had a few of those in the last thread, its tired now

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>>34987393

Should rechamber it for .357.

Pic unrelated.

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lol some knucklehead fudd put a "remington" engraving on a stupid mosin, i guess nobody told him it was a russian ww11 gun. anyway the boomer wanted like $350 for it but i got it for $300, did i do alright lads? why do these hunter fags have to put "buckmark" and "remington" stickers and engravings on goddamn everything? since the historical value was destroyed with the custom retard boomer engraving i decided to try and see if i could use it for gunsmithing practice and tune it up a bit and make it a bench rifle, what do you guys think? hitting about 1.5 moa with wolf gold brass now, polished the trigger and cut a coil off the spring and it breaks about 2.5#, had gunsmith install muzzle brake too. stock is cut from 16 gauge sheet steel and bolted with allen head bolts, put a spring in the chasis behind the receiver to help absorb recoil. i went bullpup because loltactical. its quickly becoming my fav to take out to the range

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>>34987945
other side

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>>34987945

>>34987945
At first I wasn't really reading and I thought you'd just found some picture of an airsoft monstrosity to go with your narrative but then I saw the magazine peeking out in the back there. I still didn't read it but I'm sure it was good.

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>>34988063
no airshits here anon

So for a rechambered m93, where would the marking for the caliber be? Replaced on the receiver after having the old one scrubbed? Or elsewhere?

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>>34988063
>>34988115
anyonhe else here like tinkering and custom fabricating shit?

>>34988123
seen a few just hand stamped on the receiver

>>34988140
On the barrel Shank or the exposed portion below the bolt handle?

>>34988195
the ones i saw had it above the import markings/serial# but this was a local gunsmith, so results may vary i guess

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>>34988195
>>34988234
i read m93 as m91/30 sorry

>>34988255
*Pat pats* We all make mistakes amigo... Just don't make me pull out the inquisition the next time eh?

Any anons know where i can find new production mauser stocks? Specifically military style full length 98 large ring. no sporter stocks.
Also where can i find new production long mauser barrels as military style or step? again no sporter barrel either.
trying to do some restorations here.

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i just got an 1943 03A3 guys, ME 0.5, TE 3.5 with the 4 groove barrel

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>>34989397
the 1945 Garand with a 1945 barrel in decent shape, all 1945 correct parts except the op rod

>>34989217
>Any anons know where i can find new production mauser stocks?
http://fox-military.com/en/products.php?w=1
From Poland though, so shipping is a bitch.
>trying to do some restorations here.
A word of advice is to stop while you're ahead. It's not financially sound to "restore" any gun unless it's super rare. Just keep bubba'd turds the way they are.

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>>34989401
the Model of 1917 made in 1917
original finish on all the parts, with an amazing barrel

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>>34989412
1941 No4Mk1 Maltby, 2 groove bore

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http://www.gunbroker.com/item/685276412
What's this worth should I go for it

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>>34989418
1943 AG42b

>>34989397
price?

>>34989447
i traded up from a $500 AR i build last year
AR<CZ ZKK600<S&W 29-2<03A3

>>34989420
Id say if you really want it, whatever your wallet can handle. In all honesty though I would say upto $400. I mean its a non matching gun that has been refinished. Perfect for shooting and having a looker at the range.

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>>34989430
1917 Gew98

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>>34989578
anyone else love the way the Yugo SKS is set up stock?

>>34989430
>>34989578
We can be friends

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>>34989661
cool beans
1895 Chilean

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>>34989666
my mint, no import mark Argentine 1909

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>>34989675
1951 Russian SKS
Arctic Birch stock and handguard

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>>34989683
>
1941 Tula
also all Arctic Birch

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Plz forgive

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>>34989688
Yugo M48/98 with Eagles

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>>34989666
I love my 1895 Chilean.

>>34989683
>>34989688
Arctic wood best wood.

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I'm just kinda sad because the finish on my Chilean isn't as nice as yours. The barrel is pristine and its scary accurate though.

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>>34989420
Whatever you want to pay. It's a 1908 BSA so it's a premium for that.
>>34989474
I don't think it's refinished, I think it's just some NOS Lithgow wood that JJCO put on some rifles they bought. That's not always a good thing though as the Coachwood needs the copper recoil plates to prevent cracking, and most of those NOS stocks did not have them installed.

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>>34989735
the bore on mine is excellent as well, its an awesome shooter

1891 Argentine Engineers Carbine, with the original leather sling, the bore is Super nice

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>>34989750
Are the protruding magazines on those Argentine Mausers single or double-stack? The thing that would complete my Chilean would be a leather Mauser cartridge belt.

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>>34989796
its a single stack 5rd Magazine

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>>34989815
Cool.

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>>34989796
>>34989815
Fun fact: there were a very small number of Chilean M1935 short rifles fitted with 10-round fixed box magazines. When and where the work was done is unknown, however this 10-round fixed box magazine strongly resembles one included in Paul Mauser's designs of the Model 1893 as a possible option for expanding magazine size, but as far as is known no other country ever expressed interest in the expanded magazine.

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>>34989409

Not him, but if I had more money I'd want to restore guns just for the sake of restoring them. I have a butchered Krag that I shouldn't have bought, but now that I have it I kinda want to fix it up, just to give it a new lease on life.

>>34990157

Not including the trench magazines in WW1.

Fuck the more I look at them the more I need an Argentine 1891.

>>34990469
Wait are you me
My need for an 1891 has been steadily building the last couple weeks, but I've already exhausted my milsurp funds for the semester with a Nagant and an M95.

>>34990203

My parents' neighbors have an Arisaka that some chucklefuck spray painted black. I bet I could probably get that rifle for $75.00 and some beer, because to them it's just "some Jap junk" they can't shoot. Even if I spent another $25.00 on acetone to strip it with, it'd still be worth it.

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>>34990614
The problem is that I have no money at the moment. I do have an interview with a large construction company on the 12th, so I'm hoping I get a job there. I need more money to fuel my milsurp addiction..

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>>34990469
No, you need a Peruvian.

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Soon gonna get meself an M1 Garand now that I noticed they have service grades going for 730. What confuses me however, is the fact that their currently available field grade rifles cost 100 dollars more. Anyone know why that might be so?

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>>34990203
>Not including the trench magazines in WW1.
They're of limited utility as the mounting system is tenuous and can't take a lot of stress. The Chilean one is just the standard milled 5rd internal magazine extruded downward to double capacity; it uses the standard M98 floorplate.

>>34990469
>>34990614
Por tu.

>>34990706
Did you see that Spanish trials 1891 on Gunboards?

>>34990655
I know how you feel, I'm only working about 28 hours a week while I finish up my degree, and 90% of it goes towards school/rent/food. What little I have left at the end of the month goes into my milsurp fund. I graduate this semester so hopefully I can get a decent job out the gate and I can focus on the important stuff, like more milsurp.
Good luck with the interview btw

>>34990706
Those Peruvians are essentially just 1891s recrested right?

>>34990654
If you can save some for Arisaka from bubba then do it.

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>>34990654

DOOOOO EEEEEET

Even as-is a $75 Arisaka would be great IMO.

>>34990718

Winchester I think. Fudds love their Winchesters.

>>34990724

>yfw your parents have a long-standing rule that you don't have to pay rent if you're going to school
>yfw you make $15-20 per hour delivering pizza
>yfw the majority of that goes to milsurp
>yfw you hate your parents but it's worth it

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>>34990724
>Those Peruvians are essentially just 1891s recrested right?
Nope, crest is the same. They were technically bound for Argentina in the first place. The only difference is the Lange Visir sight.

>>34990719
>Did you see that Spanish trials 1891 on Gunboards?
No, is it for sale?

LGS has a swedish mauser in stock. Are they any good? How much are they worth?

>>34991021
probably the most accurate milsurp rifle of its time. the price varies on its condition and matching # s and some other things

>inb4 finnish nugget autists

>>34989750
I have heard the recoil on these rifles is wicked. Is that true?

http://www.armslist.com/posts/7045691/fort-wayne-indiana-antiques-for-sale--springfield-1903-

nice

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>>34984913
I'm trying to buy an old milsurp rifle off my old man. A 1909 Argentine Mauser cavalry carbine in 7.65x53mm built by DWM. I love that gun, it was one of the first guns I ever shot when I was a kid. It has an incredibly smooth action and it even has the argentine crest intact (most of them had the crest ground off before export). Finding ammo for it is a bitch but I'm told you can trim down 30-06 brass and load it with .303 bullets so maybe I just need to start hand loading.

>>34991035
I haven't gone in to see it yet, but if its matching numbers and in decent shape about 400? I'm comparing to this listing

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/683962767

>>34991116
$400 is about average for a decent overall condition M96.

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>>34991107
>I'm told you can trim down 30-06 brass
This is indeed true, but you can also just buy brand new 7.65 brass made by PPU.

https://www.grafs.com/catalog/product/productId/12652

Anyone here shot an 8mm converted m93? How's the recoil and (general) accuracy?

>>34991140
Thanks anon, I'm gonna go check it out tomorrow and am worried they're gonna want like 600 for it.

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Is $650 a decent price for a Pre-Armistice MAS 36 with a non matching bolt?

>>34985098
I was lucky to buy mine for $300, but it came with 440 rounds of ammo, so I paid around $150 for the rifle itself. It was only two years ago, so maybe i caught it just before the prices exploded.

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>>34985098
>doesn't even have brass tabs

Disgusting

>>34991231
I personally got a post war refurb 1926 converted Dragoon from a local shop for 300. Had fairly minimal cosmoline too. Though I still need to sweat out the stock. Rifling is immaculate and shoots pretty well. Just need to get used to a 100 meter zero.

>>34991200
It's fair, but not great.

>>34991280
Thanks Billy. I'm gonna pass on it then, because the bolt not matching triggers my autism severely.

>>34991274
Mine is a '43 Izzy. The guy I bought it from didn't shoot it that much, he said, and the bore and rifle in general was in pretty good condition. Maybe $150 was still too much for a 91/30, but it was my first rifle, and I loved, and still love, it.

>>34991296
You May end up paying more for matching, just so you know. Pre-armistice rifles aren't common.

>>34991298
Being a refurb it doesn't have true matching parts. But all the parts aside from the trigger spring and mag are Tula. Spring is Izzy and mag is Remington or Westinghouse. Which just makes it that much more awesome. The mag that is.

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>>34991323
It's the number 1 gun on my want list, so I'm willing to pay a reasonable premium for it to meet my requirements.

Just for reference, what would you say is the price range on the Pre-Armistice rifles?

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>>34991298
My Converted Dragoon. Pretty beat up on the front end of the stock, but the finish itself is in otherwise good condition and the only scratching on the bluing is from removing the dumbass way importers store the bayonets when shipping.

Okay, WTF why is it upside down!

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>>34991368
600-900, condition dependant and all that. I'm lucky I got mine for 200, but the seller didn't know much about French rifles. Neither did I, truth be told.

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Okay, should be the right direction now... Stupid phone camera.

>>34985098
>255.jpg

>>34991434
I honestly feel like pulling off the front end of the stock would be a bitch on that thing unless the circular marks are pin punch outs.

>>34991457
They are not. They're deliberately difficult to remove and require a special spanner bit. I advise just not fucking with it.

>>34991649
Ahh, so not the kind of rifle you really want do a 'full take down' on. Well, if I ever get a MAS 36 I'll keep that in mind.

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>>34991457
They're on the 49/56 too. Never mess with them.

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>>34991742
No, unless you want to fuck up the bedding and spend hours tuning it finely. Just leave it alone.

thinking about trying some extreme gun necromancy here

https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=5042&idcategory=2

>>34991916
You're not fixing that barrel. no matter how good your welding skills are. The bolt face might be really fucked also. Sometimes its simply welded shut, but usually the European demils are milled off at an angle.

Seems like a good deal until you factor in having to find a new long barrel, a new bolt (and all the fitment issues they have) and knowing you will always have a mismatched rifle.

>>34991968

There's also the possibility that it was demilled for functional reasons, something ELSE was wrong with it and they decided it wasn't worth it to fix.

>>34991968
bolts are easy enough to find. I dont even know where to start on a long barrel though. Im going to kick myself for not getting it if I ever find a barrel though.

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>>34991916
Probably not the best idea anon.

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>>34992375

I need to do something like that with mine.

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>>34992461
Me too.

>>34992523
Do you not have a safe or lockers?

>>34992538
That room is the safe.

>>34991449
Lot number for the auction

>>34991200

I paid 150 bucks for my MAS 36.
I was so excited when I saw the price I just gave the guy my cash.

Wasn't until I got home that I noticed the CAI and 308 stamping. I was sad until to disassembled the thing and saw that it wasn't a Century chop job on the barrel but a brand new barrel put on it.
It's a fun shooter, works with USGI stripper clips and shoots about 4 inch groups at 100yards from a leadsled

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>>34992667

150 would be pretty nice even if it was a chop job really. I paid $400.

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>>34992721
I'm happy with it.
It has no matching parts which is great for me as a shooter, I have no reason NOT to switch out parts or replace broken parts

>>34992808

That's the most important thing. If you're happy with it that's all that matters.

The mas36 is incredibly underrated. I kinda wish more people would know about it, but I also like being a hipster and having people not know about them.

Plus my grandfather was with the French Foreign Legion and he used one to fight Nazis in North Africa.

>>34992858

Half the people in the thread have or want one these days it seems like. I haven't shot mine yet (getting some ammo in a week or two).

>>34992565
What if anything makes the room "safe"

also do you sleep in there? is it a panic room/safe?

>>34992858
I'd say it WAS underrated, nowadays more people appreciate them and enjoy them. I personally can't wait to see Ian do more videos on French guns and hype them up more. Maybe even finally run a 2 gun match with one.

Speaking of Ouiaboos, I had a chance to buy a butchered Berthier yesterday. I wonder what the guy would have sold it for...

>>34992893
The locked door behind 2 other sets of locked doors is a good start.

>>34992858
I would probably buy a MAS 36 if I found a good deal on one, but getting one is down on my to-buy list. I just don't find them that attractive a firearm.

>prepares for the MAS fanboy beatdown.

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>>34992958
>Don't find them that attractive
You know, that's fair

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>>34992958
It's ok to have different tastes. Not everyone can appreciate fine wine or good scotch either.

really dont care for french guns

>>34989688
I wish my Mosin was still that clean on the front end. Been scratched to shit... I actually need to get some oil or something to put over it to prevent any issues cropping up from moisture or the like.

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dont see the appeal of slav guns either

>>34993100
I honestly have no idea what wood mine is though. So I can't say how much of a shame it is outside of that it's enough that it's not exactly character being added to the rifle.

>>34993100
I refinished my Mosins because the finish was flaking off and looked terrible.
Cleaned all the wood and applied new shellac, tried to keep it as true to history as possible.

>>34993150
I'm not one that's able to do it, so I'd have to pay someone to refinsh the front end.

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>>34993047
That's your prerogative friendo

>>34993150
Are you naked mosin anon?

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>>34993137
Likewise, I don't see much appeal in German guns.

>>34991435
So, referencing back to my Mosin here, any idea on the wood used for this stock?

I recently bought a new smle receiver and buttstock, the bluing on my current one is fucked, someone tried to redo it and fucked it up

The original receiver is 1944, new one is 1950. Should i replace the old one with the new one? Or get the old one professionally re blued?

Nothing matches far as numbers so that's not a concern

>>34993202
Birch, most likely.

>>34993217
Pictures?

>>34993150
I feel like I'm in the minority here, but I have no problem with refinishing old firearms to original specs, especially if it's beat to shit from being tossed around in the back of Bubba's truck instead of true battle damage

>>34993166
I really need to get some decent pictures of my guns

>>34993217
Unless you feel that spending the money to refinish the old one is worth it when you have replacement one that likely cost less than the cost of the refinishing, than sure. Otherwise if it's not a concern I just say replace it.

>>34993220
Ah, a humble, but strong wood. Appreciate it.

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>>34992902
They're pretty decent. I used mine at a CMP shoot for the Pre-WWII to WWII category and placed fourth despite the fact that the match was at 100yards, and the lowest the MAS sights go is 200.

>>34993217
Have you considered rebluing it yourself?

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finally got to shoot one of these lil fuckers yesterday.

nice little kick at the muzzle.

>>34993268
How far back is pre-ww2? I'd like to compete with my Chassepot

>>34993268
That's why you practice and figure out where you're rounds go at the interim ranges... Still need to properly 'sight in' my Mosin. Then gonna have to do the same with my m93. Though it has been converted with a peep sight so my minimum setting will be lower thankfully... Otherwise I'd be looking at three hundred.

>>34993042
McDonald's is a restaurant to some

>>34993323
I'd rather have a poorly made hamburger than an excellently prepared food I don't like

>>34993338
But why would you order something you don't like? Eh?

>>34993373
Because they didn't have chicken nuggets

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>>34993268
I'll have to check but I am almost positive the Mas36 sights start at 100 meters.

>>34993235

I feel that there's definitely an acceptable level of work that can be done to keep a gun from degrading further. As long as it's reasonably close to the original configuration I feel it's OK.

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>>34993042
Jokes on you I don't drink anything except for water. That's money that can go towards milsurp.

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>>34993295
I mainly had planned to use my AR for the regular service rifle competition(I placed 3rd), but decided on a whim to do the WWII category too , so I didn't get a chance to practice at 100 yards with my MAS. The way I was dressed probably threw off most of the fudds there desu, which may have given me an unfair advantage anyways.

>>34993373
Because I'm having dinner with somebody and they made some food I hate but I have to eat it to be polite but I'd rather have a quarter pounder?

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>>34993231
Can't seem to locate a good picture showing the bluing
>>34993277
Don't want to do it myself, pretty sure that's why it looks like garbage, someone tried to do it themselves.

I really only bought the receiver cause i wanted the buttstock and both of them together was like an extra $30, the original buttstock used to have a homemade cheek rest on it before i bought it, so it's pretty rough.

But it's a full wood enfield with an awesome bore and i got for $120. Syrup dollars, bit rough around the edges but it's a great rifle

This is how i got it. I got rid of the rail abd put the irons back on

>>34993420
Most 30's era rifles did, but not all. Consider the No.4 Enfield.

>>34993420
It was shooting a good 12" below the bullseye at the lowest setting I could get the sites to go to.

>>34993428

Unfortunately I'm addicted to fast food, fortunately I'm not addicted to pretty much anything else (except milsurp).

I do find it amusing though now how I feel guilty when I spend a lot at a fast food place, I used to not care, but now I think about how that extra $3 is 1/100 of a Mosin.

>>34993433

What exactly were you wearing?

>>34993436
get out bubba

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>>34993428
I guess I'm just a man with expensive tastes in most things.

I'm honestly considering getting my M93 drilled and tapped for a scope since it's already been somewhat sported as it is. Plus people don't seem to like the Spaniards anyways, so even if I replaced the sight and the original butt plate is under the tacked on pad I'd not get much out of selling it.

>>34993280
lol most people don't know what those are I bet. There seems to be a chronic lack of knowledge about Dutch Mannlichers in North America. I see usually them at auction as mystery rifles.

Did you make your own ammo? If so, what'd you use?

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>>34993468
i heard that

>>34993474
Ive been called bubba for much less

>>34993510
best case scenario what do you think I could get a g43 for?

>>34993519
Yeah, but at least the only lasting effects would be two small holes. Compared to a possibly unremovable buttpad.

>>34993551
Plus I'm left handed and my left eye is shit. A peep sight is good and all but I need all the help I can get. Unless I teach myself to shoot right handed.

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>>34993447
Homura cosplay.

>>34993457
How is that bubba? Did you even read the fucking post? That's how i got that rifle at auction. I removed all that shit

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>>34993534
Best case? I've seen functional ones as low as $2500 in the past year.

>>34993510
I think that's a tad more than 10k these days. Probably closer to 13.

>>34993580

Any better pics?

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>>34993646
Not from that meet, I fucked up my make-up. Unless you mean of the Gras musketoon, which isn't in the best of shape considering it was issued to colonial troops in Africa.

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>>34993420
Nope mine are 200. 1950s gun

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>>34993644
I think I had $11.9k in all of that (including the 2 scopes/mounts, 2 extra mags, extra parts, shooters kits and M41 bayonet - not pictured)

I love them all, but honestly I am thinking about selling/trading one of the G43s. They are too fucking fragile and I want at least one of them to be a shooter, but I dont want to break the gun or my face.

Even with the shooters kits and my extra light loads they still wont pass the tape test. I can close off the gas port (and sometimes do) and use them as bolt actions - but its not as fun.

Every time I take one out to put on consignment, I play with it for a minute and end up putting it back in the safe.

>>34993707

That's very amuse. Reminds me of the greentext about the instructor that inadvertently turned his range into a gay club. I'll bet that a lot of the fudds were spending an uncomfortable amount of time thinking about you.

>>34993447
spandex multicam meggings

>>34993760

I'd offer to buy one, but I wouldn't have the money until the end of the year, and I have other things that I should have higher on the list (like a newer car).

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>>34993767
We aren't allowed to do meets at that range anymore though. On top of "being a gay obama militia" we also "brought too many guns" and "were shooting too loud."

>>34993825
Wat... That last one in particular makes Zero sense.

>>34993825
makes sense

>>34993825

>"were shooting too loud"

I don't go out shooting nearly often enough, but I remember one time long ago where I went with a friend and he was doing drills with an SKS, two shots to the center, look left and right, repeat for the magazine.

He was doing that at about 20 yards, one of the fudds that was there (it was just before hunting season so they were sighting it all in) came over and complained about how much he was shooting. "I guess you just don't care about accuracy!"

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>>34993237
Get out there and do it the next free day you get. It's a fun way to kill a weekend

>>34993907
I still need to get a decent picture of my Arisaka.

>>34993907
Damn, that's a good looking rifle. What is it?

>>34993604
>>34993604
ive seen them as low as $1200, a few at $1500

they had problems like non original stocks, non matching mags etc but meh you can get one for not too much if you try. that said, i dont know why you would get a "shooter" type since they make shitty shooters because of how fragile they are. the only condition worth buying is collector all matching #s original condition

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>>34993954
A type 38

got an all matching type 99 I really dont want. no mum

What's a reasonable offer for an all matching 1890 M16 updated Berthier, In good overall condition?

>>34994248
>>34994248
I payed around $300 for my non-matching Berthier m.16 a couple years ago.

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>>34994050
yea, both of mine are all matching originals (except for repro scope mounts)

>>34994084

Last Ditch? How much you thinking of selling it for?

>>34994050

Not that guy, but personally I'm more interested in a gun with some history to it. Museum pieces are nice, but I'd rather have a gun that shows some wear.

>>34994325
No, I want to say its early war but I really dont know. I found it in my uncles garage attic. I assume he brought it back. But I just dont like jap shit.

>>34994344
Does it have a monopod, adjustable sights or a flip up side sight?

>>34994420
let me look

>>34994344

Well someone will probably pay decently well for it, especially if it's got the accessories.

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>>34994420

>>34994548

Probably AA sights by the looks of it, no monopod though. If you decide to sell check your grandpa's place again to see if you can find it. They're pieces of shit but they boost the value of the gun.

>>34994601
His place doesnt exist anymore. think capture papers might make it more valuable? I think they are somewhere

>>34994622
Once piece is better than no piece. And I've no idea if the capture papers would make it more valuable or not. Might depend on the person/collector

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>>34993268
>pre-WWII
>has post-WWII gun
>>34993420
They're all 200 meters.

>>34994548
would trade this though. Ive gotten to a place where I dont reallly need money anymore thank god.

>>34994652
>Implying fudds can tell the difference

It's still a pre-WWII model, which I believe is what really matters for CMP shoots

>>34994622

As the other anon says it would depend on the collector, but I can guarantee that it won't hurt. Personally I would cream my pants if I got capture papers with a gun.

My MAS 36 >>34992721 is a Vietnam bringback, but no papers. So it was made in France, sent to Vietnam as part of the colonial efforts, then captured by Charlie, then captures by an American and brought back. If I had paperwork for that story I'd probably masturbate to it daily.

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>have chilean 95 rifle
>feels a little too long and front heavy for me
>gun store has oviedo carbine
>7x57
>same as my chilean
>feels nice to hold and aim
>inspect it
>firing pin hole welded/soldered over
>ask about that
>store person says he can't sell it
>that was a few weeks ago
>gun is back on the rack with a replaced bolt
>make an offer
>buy it
>get home
>put a round in the magazine and try to chamber, just to get a rough feel
>bolt doesn't go all the forward let alone close
>open the bolt
>put the round bullet first in the muzzle
>bullet goes all the way in
>dig out random 7.62 round in my misc ammo box
>fits in the muzzle
>guess it was rechambered for 762x51
>feel a knot in my stomach
>take gun apart
>inspect barrel and receiver
>gouge in the barrel/receiver joint
>tfw bought a pipe bomb
I'm going to try and return it tomorrow, I don't see any problem given that it's chambered for another round than advertised and has some safety issues. Shame though, I liked how it felt compared to my chilean, plus it was a little beat up so I wouldn't have minded putting some better sights/a scope mount on it bc I have shit vision and my chilean isn't something I'd want to mess with like that.

pic is the gouge, it didn't photograph too well but it's like a chunk of metal missing in the shape of a crescent

>>34994652

>Berthier and 2 MAS 36s
>Not Berthier, Lebel and MAS 36

Disgusting.

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>>34994696
I'd do it myself once I get the chance. Sorry for the incomplete family photo, I'm missing a few guns.

>>34994708

Next week I'm gonna update mine ( >>34992461 ) once my RIA shipment comes in. I'll have 3 new additions.

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>>34992721
>>34994662
I highly doubt yours is a Vietnam bringback. Yours doesn't really have the Vietnam look to it, and it's a 36/51. The ones in Vietnam would have all been LG-48s.

Furthermore, going from the sticky on gunboards, your rifle (yes I know the SN from the gunbroker auction) was made in in December of 1954 or January of 1955.
Dien Bien Phu ended on May the 7th 1954.

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>>34994696
I have a Lebel too. It's just too long to do that with a Mle 1936.

>>34985098
$.008?

>>34994683


that gouge wont blow anything up you puss

but still its not chambered right and needs a smith to inspect it

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>>34994548
Post a pic like this. I'll tell you the series and manufacturer.

>>34994683
Yeah, that's a bubba rechamber. An arsenal wouldn't use a pipe wrench like that.

>>34993235

It's more fitting for sporters or rescued, not guns in original config. I suppose if some tard hammered it it would be okay to fix up. Definitely would clean it up.

>>34994779
it's not just that, it's probably 7.62x51 and chambered in a small ring mauser? sounds dangerous, it's easier just to get my money back and not worry about it

>>34994781
Maybe another day. But I think its a nagoya

>>34991153
I own one, and I don't shoot it anymore after having had a badly pierced primer that shot gas through the bolt and all over my face.

>this is why the M98 has all those safety features

hey mosin experts, what should I look for in a Mosin? Why is a hex mosin supposedly better, and is that true? Thanks for the help guys.

>>34995060
Sounds like your firing pin was under a lot more spring tension than it should have been.

>>34995069
Hex receivers are stronger built do to the shape and quality of the steel used. Round receivers are made during war time when speed goes over quality. Also the earlier the date on a mosin, the more valuable it is. Otherwise, just find yourself something that looks good and isn't overly expensive

>>34994696
Lebel won't stack with the shorties.

>>34995097
Are hex mosins any more accurate or better quality (aside from what you said)?

>>34995176
Well, I pretty much stated they're of better quality. More work put in and a more refined steel. I don't remember if they're supposed to be anymore accurate, but I think it's a yes because it possibly holds the rifling at the start of the barrel for longer. Meaning even if you don't have a rebored rifle you have a better chance at having stronger rifling.

>>34995196
Correct me if I'm wrong though, anyone that knows better.

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>>34995097
>>34995196
The change to round recievers happened well before the war, 1936. There is no difference between them otherwise. Hex Mosins are simply more rare because fewer were produced. The biggest distinctions in quality are between pre war and war time guns.

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>>34995239
Should be more valuable instead of more rare.

Fuck data throttling. I'm not paying for unlimited just to use a little bit of data.

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Why do I want one so bad?

>>34995257

Because you like pastashit.

>>34995239
Ah, gotcha. And I've got one that's potentially more valuable (If it hadn't been a post war refurb) Because it's a 1926 made dragoon, 91/30 converted admittedly, but still.

>>34995301
Those are like $25 more at most. I have a 1929 ex dragoon myself, posted here >>34995239

>>34995348
Like I said, potentially. Here's mine
https://i.4cdn.org/k/1503864162393.jpg

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>>34984913
Got one on top for free

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>>34995458
cool, ive had a few of them pass through my hands.

does it have any special markings? what nationality is it?

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>>34989634
I sure do. It looks operator as fuck. I wish they weren't like $800 in Canada, but at least we have decent priced Russian SKS's (for now)

>>34991916
that type 99 long rifle for $525 on there was a great price

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Yugo Mausers are cool. I need a VZ98.

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>>34997936
Yugo mausers are much better than people give them credit for

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>>34998065
Whats weird is that I've noticed that almost every M48 people post on here has pretty much 100% bluing, but mine doesn't, especially around the barrel bands. I secretly hope mine was issued in the Yugoslav wars, because that would be fucking awesome.

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>>34998409
Mines the same way anon. The only bluing i have left is.under the wood.

Im sitting at 10% left on exposed metal.

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Mines basically factory new

>>34998409

Mine's still covered in cosmoline because I am extraordinarily lazy.

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>>34997936
>I need a VZ98.
I need a W.98 (or a Wz.24).

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>>34987945
Jesus fuck, that is the most space bubba shit I have ever seen. It was bubba'd so hard it went 360 and became good again in the most lulzy way. It's like a gopnik started playing Mass Effect instead of Counterstrike and decided to go full-tilt. At this point, you should engrave some kind of Soviet space logo on it. You should try to build a higher capacity magazine for it or something.

Here's the logo for the Russian space agency, Roscosmos. God damn, Ivan is rolling in his grave.

>>34998488
that means it was used to remove a lot of kebab

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So it turns out my Type 38 is actually one of the less uncommon Type 38's from Nagoya sent to Thailand under the designation of Type 83 in 1940 to assist them in the Franco-Thai war. It's a 27th series which was one of the series sent and has zeroes stamped around the mum indicating it was removed from Japanese service. On one hand I'm disappointed it didn't see use in the Japanese military, but on the other it may have removed frogs which is cool and I know it's story now.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FrF59wJlNOg

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Deviating from my usual lebel egofagging, r8 my new M.95.

>>34999414
Looks good, mine doesn't come in until Thursday, can't wait.

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I too enjoy a pre armastice MAS 36. Only thing non matching is the bolt.

>>34999520
>>34999414
What's a good price for one these days? I've been keeping my eye on a non import marked one in 8x50. Is 400 too much?

>>34999743
For an 8x50? No that's fair. They're pretty uncommon. Hope you like making your own ammo though.

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>>34999414
>r8 my new M.95.
Barrel looks a little short for that rear sight.

>>34999834
Any good recommendations for an absolute beginners guide to hand loading 8X50mm? I've had a carbine for a while that I'd like to be able to actually shoot someday

>>35000008
I know it can be made out of nugget brass fairly easily

>>35000539
The trick is then actually getting the genuine brass cases. Which aren't cheap. Either buy buying the ammo or bagged brass if you can find it. One place I found was selling a bag of 100 for just as many USD

>>35000709
Fuck I bungled up my writing there...

>>35000008
Never made it myself, but you can use 8x56 brass easily as well and don't need to do as much as you would with x54r brass (though it will cost a bit more).

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Is there a milsurp focused reloading book? I have two i flop between, but they're both missing calibers. One doesn't have any carcano, or styre loads, the other one doesn't have loadings for garand friendly or any of the south american flavors.

They pretty much only list the still in use/popular ones. 8 mauser, 6.5 swede, .303, ect. I would LOVE for a reloading book to list grenade loads also.

>>35000800
No, unfortunately there isn't one yet. I want to make one though.

>>34999743
I got mine for $125 before shipping, but it was missing a front sight and few screws, not to mention the stock is somewhat cracked. Total came out to a little under $200 I think after everything, just waiting for the screws to come in now to finish it.

Sweaty Ben has Yugo SKS's for $400, is that too much?

>>34993474
What extent is it already sporterized to? Answer very carefully and thoroughly

>>35001138
Are they 59/66s? Because IMO any price is too much for a 59/66.

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Monroe reporting in

>>34985098
I practically vomit when I see the price of nuggets these days. Got mine for $85 only seven-ish years ago

>>35001469
7 years ago I bought my first house for $56,000. Worth $220,000 when I sold it last year. Markets change man.

>>35001449
Bubba'd

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Discovered this after range trip. Don't know how I missed it the first time around.

Looks like someone at the yugo arsenal got a bit too zealous when buffing. Cause for concern? I've fired a box of the underloaded ppu stuff with no issues. Can't fir a needle down in it, but a piece of paper goes about 1/6th of an inch in.

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>>35001231
I don't have it in my hands just yet, Only pictures from my uncle. But it has what could a tacked on buttpad just over the old plate (if they used brass) and a peep sight that looks like it could be from a Springfield 03 or even an no.4 enfield. The pics I have don't show the much past 75 to 80 percent of the stock/barrel.

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>>35001560
And close up side of the sight and bolt.

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>>35001449
A new stock, barrel bands and handguard will have you sitting pretty.

>>35001536
It's probably just the ends of the thread on the barrel shank.

Alright, guys, for the first time in over a year, I've got some money rolling in. I'm talkin' max $350.00-$400.00 of disposable income. I'd like to pick up another 'surp after about a five year leave of absence, what should I keep my eyes open for? I'm considering a 91/30, but I'm open to most suggestions.

> inb4 "falling for the Mosin meme in 2017"

I missed out on a really, really nice one with sling, bayonet, and ammo for $100.00 in 2012. I know I'm a faggot for wanting one now, but I recently shot a '29 Tula ex-Dragoon that belongs to a friend.

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>>35001611
Would it headspace that far out?

>>35001617
Mosins aren't that bad as long as you know what to inspect for. They have commie quality control, but are a decent design. Just make sure the bore is good, the bolt face doesn't have burs, the extractor isn't warped sideways, and the rest of it is in good shape. If you take a 20 gauge borebrush and some hoppes on a drill on slow you can scrub the chamber of cosmoline. Also heavier loads tend to help in causing sticky bolt, so stick to moderate stuff. Finn mosins are usually a bit smoother if you really wanna see what they can do.

>>34990801
>>34990804

Your wish is my command. I'm going home this weekend, I'll see what I can pull. If you see an ugly as shit Arisaka in a future /msg/, that's me. If not, I've failed in my endeavor.

>>35001617
I got real lucky with my ex-dragoon in that the barrel only had enough cosmo in it that It just took some good penetrating gun oil, a scrub with a copper 30 cal brush and working patches until they came out clean it all looked shiny and immaculate. Should probably re-oil my barrel sometime in the next few days. Been about a month.

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>>35001628
>Would it headspace that far out?
I don't think it has anything to do with headspace; some machinist just got a little too excited cutting threads.

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>reloading equipment
Did I do it right?

>>35002050
>No Berthier clip

>>35002092
There's a lot I want to add to the collection. A berthier is definitely up there

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/687485682

>>35002375
Mmmmm tasty.

>>35002375
I just happen to have about $1200 burning a hole in my safe right about now

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I want to trade this parade drill (hole milled in chamber but otherwise mechanically functional) ww1 era full length Steyr built M95 with Steyr bayonet for an imperial Russian nugget (not soviet rebuild, or russian receiver on finnish barrel), do you think this is a fair trade?

btw live in canuckistan, if that influences the price or something.

>>35002497
Would depend on if they're willing to trade for a wall hanger.

>>35002375
Why? Why would you post that here?

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>>35002497
>do you think this is a fair trade?
Not for the other guy. Go for it.

Well I shot my frommer stop for the first time today with ppu 71 gr. Fmj. Only about 20 rds out of 100 actually ejected. Several didn't even cock the hammer. I hand cycled the rest so now i can reload some fairly hot rounds. Also my magazine is shit

>>35002497
too bad its in leafistan or id have traded you a big pile of money for it

>>35002497
>>35002508
>>35002559
I should have specified that I was looking for an answer in terms of how valuable either side of the theoretical trade is in relation to each other, as I haven't yet even listed this, though I want to get an idea of how much I'm going to have to add money to the trade without being laughed off the trade forum or without getting swindled. I value it at around $350-400 (CAD). I've seen Russian imperials go offered from 300 to +800, with the more expensive ones being offered by the same type of person who would try to sell a plain nugget for absurd money because he makes up some bullshit history tale about it.

>>35002575
How much would you have offered (genuinely curious), where do you live, can you not find these there?

>>35002727
I didnt really read your post well and didnt realize it was a parade one. you can get one for under $300

>>35002805
Yes, but this one has also a bayonet, Which I think is another 100 at least

>>35002548
To spread the love..?

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>>34990654
Do it. Last week I bought the 38 on the bottom and it was covered in some horrid glossy brown paint. Slathered it in some citristrip and let it sit an hour and it scraped off, then rubbed on some linseed oil. The Type 99 and 44 I just bought. $600 for the pair, with the 99 being an all matching Tokyo Juki Kogyo.

>>35002855
I could buy both of those off liberty tree right now for $335

>>35002858
That's MY ROSS. I'm buying it. I don't need anyone else knowing about it until I post my shitty pictures of it and give a fresh hot take on how it's better than the Mauser or something.

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>ross is better than mauser

>>35003525
It does sound like something I'd say.

>>35002866

My experience with Arisakas is sorta low, I think I've maybe seen one in person in my whole life. I think I can swing this deal, is there anything I should know going in (stripping, manufacturer, and manufacture date. I know the 'mum's gone already)?

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New threa up guy's
>>35003761
Keep it bloopy tovarishee

>>35003708
I recommend McCollum's book. Not super in depth but more than enough for a beginner. Talks about the marker and most other markings. As for stripping, take the wood to hardware or paint store and the paint folks what they recommend. I work at an ACE and did just that.

>>34991409
Did you get your bayonet stuck on fuckoff backwards and crusted in cosmoline too?

>>35003102
That's in USD, I think I made the point that I was talking in CAD.

>>35004283
The cosmoline wasn't actually the issue with the bayonet. Whomever shoved the thing on REALLY got it on there. Took me a friend, a hammer (and paper towels to protect the wood), penetrating oil and a lot of brute force over the course of about 45 minutes.