/akg/ AK General

>AK Buyer's Guide

http://pastebin.com/YdEkhdva

I bought an 1P87.

>>34610217
oh shit...

>>34610217
thats cool

>>34610217
Hott

>>34610217
Nice. Post a review of it when you get to use it.

>>34610011
Why are the Tapco ones so shit? I wouldn't buy one but I'd think it would just be a clone of a real one?

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Went to my Dad's place to pick up my rifles for the meet this weekend, rummaged around in the safe and found some old chinkshit ammo, kinda neat.

>>34610395
It's not. It's just a worthless weight. Tapco can't do shit right.

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>>34610217
Bitch

>>34610395
>no chamber
>the port holes are just two holes drilled through the top

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>>34610415
If im not mistaken this is banned? Pic related is the back of the box

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>>34610435
pic related is chinkshit next to GT

>>34610415
>>34610435
>>34610442
It's banned from import. How many boxes did you find?

>>34610344
I'll be doing a video review for you guys as soon as I test it out.

Probably late August at the earliest for video, but I'll post pics/impressions as soon as it arrives

>>34610217
First off
>no proofs
ALSO, that's neat.

>>34610484
btw if anyone has a lead on a Ratnik birdcage flash hider, please hook a brutha up. I'd like to test it alongside some of the new Russian flashcans (e.g. Armacon VOLK).

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>>34610442
Yeah Chicom ammo is banned. It smells terrible when you shoot it, worse than cat piss

My first gun was a Chinese SKS that came with 1000 rounds of the stuff and I between leftovers from that and stuff that my dad bought back in the day I've got a couple hundred rounds left of it

>>34610511
Neat!

>>34610532
You could probably sell it for a little bit of money, especially since yours has the box

Not sure if it'll be worth your while to ship it but maybe if there's any local collectors

>>34610460
sadly only one partial box. Kept it because i thought it was kinda cool though.
>>34610511
Thats pretty cool anon, I do recall it smelling horrible, i had an old Npap when i was 16 and i took it hunting, I had no clue back then.

If I put a 14mm to 24mm thread adapter on my AK will I end up with some sort of unsightly extension between the muzzle device and the front sight?

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10000000% 922r compliant.

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>>34610620
Basically I dont want it to look like this

>>34610644
That's exactly what you'll end up with. Learn to love 14mm.

>>34610503
It was a gift.

>>34610511
That's a lot of Golden Tiger.

>>34610685
what's the story?

>>34610643
God damn, the gas block and fsb look fucked up on an otherwise AKM rifle.

>>34610690
>a lot
Some dude here ordered like $2k of Golden tiger, split down the middle of 5.45x49 and 7.62x39.

>>34610713
It's really triggering isn't it? I used to think that the 107r was fine, but it just looks off to me now.

>>34610685
Don't worry. If you do enough business people will help you.

>>34610684
No one makes AK 74 brakes in 14mm though. Why the fuck did Arsenal have to make all their SLR-107Rs in the threading no ones uses any more.

And why don't the thread adapters just be shorter so theres no gap?

>>34610713
>AKM rifle
74 furniture

>>34610749
They mightve measured it wrong or on a longer brake. That's my guess

>>34610737
I remember back when they first hinted at it, I was hoping so hard for just a regular ol' AKM clone but I wasn't surprised at all when they came out with pictures of the abortion.

>>34610751
>furniture makes the rifle
Yeah, one dude putting AK-74 furniture makes them not?

>>34610749
>No one makes AK 74 brakes in 14mm though
Nope, why would they?
>Why the fuck did Arsenal have to make all their SLR-107Rs in the threading no ones uses any more.
>And why don't the thread adapters just be shorter so theres no gap?
Because fuck you that's why. Seriously though, idk what the fuck goes through the heads of the guys at Arsenal. I thought the same as >>34610784 about the 107r. Real shame they didn't just do an AKM clone AND discontinue the 107fr.

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>>34610618
I used to make it a point to shoot as much of it as I could before digging into my "better" ammo, but I used to get tired of the smell so I'd start shooting less smelly after a while. I regret shooting so much of it, had i known there were folks who collected this stuff I'd have kept it as is. It was originally all still loaded on Chinese stripper clips and bunched together in packs of three clips wrapped in brown paper

>>34610690
Not really, I'm not sure what my total round count of GT is right now. I've got maybe 2k in that box and then another 3k or so in ammo cans, and then at my parents I've got another 4k or 5k that I either dig into when I shoot when I visit or take a can full home when I leave. I used to buy 1k of GT a month for like two years straight and this is all left over from that. I haven't bought any 7.62x39 whatsoever in like four years

I really regret that 7.62x39 was the only caliber I ever stacked deep when I had a well paying job and could afford to spend a lot of money on gun stuff

>>34610792
Your lack of autism is showing

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>>34610503

>>34610882
why do you taunt me

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>>34610503

You can get them in Russia.

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>>34610890
Here's another.

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>>34610808
>>34610784
>>34610713
At least it's a step up from my last AK.

>>34610751
Nice catch

>>34610915
Always curious how they get eotechs, grey market bought through Israel or something I take it?

>>34610941

Or Europe or Chinese knock offs.

>>34610941
there's money to be made breaking ITAR

>>34610958
generally the real thing, actually

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Not bad including the mount

>>34610941
People trading for shit maybe. Buying their own gear maybe

>>34610749
>No one makes AK 74 brakes in 14mm though. Why the fuck did Arsenal have to make all their SLR-107Rs in the threading no ones uses any more.

Isn't 14:1 left hand the standard AKM threading?

>>34610941
You realize our government gives these companies permission to export ITAR shit to countries all over the world, right? Just because they won't ship to some rando civilian doesn't mean another government can't purchase them.

>>34610992
>20000 rubles
Are you trying to piss me off right now zasta?

>>34610915
If I ever get a 5.45 I am tacticooling the fuck out of it like this and you can't stop me.

>>34611007
How much did you pay? Just give us a multiplier

>>34611020
20k russian monies is about 340 usd

>>34610808
Pretty sure the entire 107R line is essentially Arsenal's version of a freezer cleaner stew. The 47 front sight is really indicative of them just using up spare parts they have nothing to do with. I wouldn't be surprised if they keep producing the 107R line if they'll start changing different parts just as a way to get rid of stuff they have no use for. 45 degree gas blocks and the like

>>34610941
>>34610989
You just have to get approval before sending stuff, Brownells will do it if you have a big enough order, guys on guns.ru set up group buys.

>>34611007
Hehe what did you pay?

Ordering a WASR tomorrow when I get home. Ordered a Romanian 3 cell mag pouch for it the other day. Does Impact Guns (or anyone for that matter) still ship them with the accessories? It's not a big deal, I already have a bayonet, I'm just curious.

>>34610915
>>34610882
I wish we could get those stocks, especially with a 45mm pin/AKS-74 style stock/trunnion set up.

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>>34611045
Not the same guy, but you know how much I also want a 1P87 and the magnifier

It's really hard trying to buy a little bit more guns outside of FALs and AKs before going full autism for the next 2 years

>>34611020
>can't do a 2 second google search
I expected better from you.

>>34611081
>>34611030
Y'all ig'nant

>>34610460
My gunstore was selling this for 6 bucks a box, i bought 12, how much is this worth? I also bought some of the silver boxes too.

>>34611047
Which accessories do you mean? Mine came with a pmag and the cleaning kit.

>>34611103
It's not really ammo worth shooting but it's definitely nice for photo-ops, especially if you have black friends you want to dress up as African militia-men since it's the same sort of copper wash ammo that's pretty prevalent, or gook friends you want to dress up as NVA.

>>34611135
>being friends with minorities
What are you doing bro?

>>34611103
Not worth that much, but there are collectors of it out there

>>34611171
Well it's why I don't own any :-)

>>34610992
Mine is coming with the same mount. I paid more than that, but not a great deal more. Someone on AKFiles paid $760 for one, his will probably be the first "known" in the US. I always wonder if DOD discreetly buys semi-obscure optics/accessories from rival countries for testing. It would be neat to know how many are in the US, and when the first one came in. They date back to at least 2013.

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>>34611201
From where? I must have one

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google translate is a hell of a drug

>>34611218
>is there a biscuit?
The important questions

>>34611215
If everything goes well and it arrives as advertised I'll pony up the sauce.

In the meantime try low-balling the guy who keeps posting them for $700 on Ebay, he seems willing to negotiate.

>>34611244
Nah, I'll see if your guy pulls through. Mostly cause if he's willing to deal a 1P87 for 300 I bet I could ask him for a real deal PSO-1 as well. I kinda wanna buy a C93 and an AUG before dumping all my money into variants of the same gun so that should give me a little bit of time

>>34611265
whoever Zasta posted is not the guy I dealt with

>>34611265
>and an AUG
/akg/ is gonna be /aug/ soon

>Zasta has AUG
>One other anon has AUG
>Once my FAL sells I'll have AUG
>You might have AUG
We'll be the augly duckling boys

>>34611218
Yeah, google translate is horrible with technical stuff, especially miltiary/firearms related stuff.

>>34611271
His looks like a FB group anyways, I don't have FB

>>34611277
>/akg/ becomes /aug/
I'm ok with this. There's a lot of FALs in /akg/ too. So comfy in here

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>tfw no matter how hard I pretend it will never be an AK-74M
Also I can't be the only person that thinks that AK-74's are the sexiest AK's out there.

>/arg/ has been arguing and bitching for the entire general
>/akg/ is gettin comfy with 1p87s

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>>34611287
/akg/ truly does have the best taste in firearms

>>34611309
>no matter how hard I pretend it will never be an AK-74M
iktf, I pretend as hard as I can and it isn't enough

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>>34611309
>Also I can't be the only person that thinks that AK-74's are the sexiest AK's out there.

Wrong.

All next week going to have a slr-104fr coming in, a russian black polymer 3pc set with a izzy triangle folder, and a bulgy zigzag brake. this rifle is going to be sweet, can't wait.

>>34610180
I saw a sam7 for $800 today, told dude I'd have to do my research. Stop in tomorrow for it?

>>34611340
why the hell not?

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>>34611339
Good choice man. You got a set from Rogersnative?

>>34611325
Truly. I think the C93 and AUG will be good standins for when I want to shoot cheap 5.56 while waiting on things to get built

>>34611351
Wasn't familiar enough with it?

>>34611359
exactly, got both the 3pc set and folder from Rogers. He said all of it has wear but i'm thinking it'll clean up nicely. Looking at your pic looks like i'll have the exact same shit really besides the optic, working on the optic next.

>>34611309
>it will never be an AK-74M
You're not even trying with your rifle though, you don't have any of the easily replaceable AK-74M parts on yours. At least dress it up like True Black Fag has with what you can easily replace, he has everything AK-74M he can get on his without some major work.

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>>34611369
It'll be pretty nice without the optic. I wish I woulda taken one without before putting all my pads on, cause I really don't wanna have to take em off just for pictures

>>34611384
ive been thinking to myself if i'll need the pads or not, i'm just gonna shoot it and see if I feel like I need them. Maybe get them when I get my optic in so I can have a nice chin weld. You can pretty much track down who I am on the files with what I told you lol, haven't actually yet ordered the brake but i'm looking so I assume i'll be able to find one by atleast next week.

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>>34611410
Look for Jman100ct, he'll have what you're lookin for

I wouldn't recommend the cheek pad unless you're gonna dedicate the rifle to having a 1.4lb optic on at all times, it makes the irons a bit of a pain to use. The GP-25 pad is really good at keeping the otherwise slippery triangles from going all over the place tho

>>34611434
jman1100ct, my bad

I should order a safety from him

>>34611325
>iktf, I pretend as hard as I can and it isn't enough
;-;
>>34611330
Hilarious
>>34611379
I'm not trying at this point because what am I gonna do? Replace the muzzle brake, hanguard, and pistol grip? Maybe the FCG if I'm lucky. I'll still be stuck with a fucking 4.5mm stock.

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>>34611359
I'm just really excited for an AUG. I've wanted one for such a long time and now I'm so close, hopefully I'll be meeting to sell my FAL this weekend and I'll promptly buy an AUG with that money. I bought 5.56 today for the first time in a very long time just for an AUG that I don't even have yet. I'd even say I'm more excited for an AUG than I am for my 88 kit

>>34611379
>At least dress it up like True Black Fag has with what you can easily replace, he has everything AK-74M he can get on his without some major work.
I've really considered at least dimpling the barrel components and getting a proper 5.5mm trunnion installed but I'll never do it because that feels like a waste and kinda pointless as it'll still never be Izhmash

>>34611410
Had you been in the market for a brake a few weeks ago I would have sold you a Bulgarian zigzag. I'm still on the fence about selling one of my short collars, if I decide on it I'll probably post here before the Files in case you or anyone else wants it

>>34611448
Smooth top cover too. I got one I don't need anymore

>>34611434
my choice of optic was gonna be an Obzor, will probably be able to afford one the first of next month. and yeah the gp-25 looks especially useful.

I'll look up that jman guy, I found his profile. jman1100ct, see if he has one for a reasonable price.

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>>34611325
Here's the thing.

The droopier stock angle is 90% of the problem for me, if it wasn't for that my brain would be satisfied with the similarity.

Arsenal makes the stocks here in the US, I wish they would update the shape to be more in-line with the receiver like modern 5.5mm folders. They copy the modern Russian poly folder perfectly, but then stick it on a 4.5mm trunnion which causes it to have the incorrect angle. They should compensate for the difference by changing the angle of the hinge on the stock.

But most people are not autistic enough to care, so it won't happen.

>>34611454
That's a good point that I forgot about. Still not really worth it though since the only smooth ones that are readily available here are different types from Saigas

>>34611461
Should of just bought a Russian rifle.

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>>34611460
Ohioanon has a cheekpad and an obzor, you should talk to him about his experience. I think he said it helps but the obzor is still pretty high

>>34611452
>our 3gun pic will now be ak, aug, and garand
Still kinda devastated desu

>>34611471
Far as I know the ones from saigas are the same exact thing

>>34611461
Like I said it's because Arsenal can't make a century series copy because of Izhmash.

>>34611452
whats the difference with the short collars?

>>34611480
>Far as I know the ones from saigas are the same exact thing
From first glance, yes.There are differences in the way they do the stampings n shit I think. Chimps and a few others know more

>>34610435
>>34610460
It's banned thanks to George HW Bush

>>34611490
Idk, I haven't dug into covers much. Far as I know there ARE a lot of variants in them but they're all gtg. Chimps will correct me tho

>>34611475
not mine, I have 4.5mm and 5.5mm folders and love both

I just think droopy Arsenal polymer folders look unaesthetic.

>>34611485
A "straighter" stock would actually be MORE different from the 5.5mm Russian one, since they would need to change the angle of the hinge to counteract the 2 degree difference in rear trunnion angle.

As it is right now they stocks are virtually identical except for the screws on the buttplate and the hinge hole diameter.

So, I have one of them Arsenal "Legion" Saigas, before they were made by that Fima group. These weer converted "in house" by Arsenal. Bought it for $700 at the time.

Black plastic furniture, I swapped out the buttstock for Nato length.

What's it worth?

>>34610915
>>34610900
>>34610882
Would there ever be interest in a rear sight base/dust cover hinged set up? It'd have to be only used on builds or done professional but given that there are companies that actually make rear sight bases that are just a big pic. rail, why not one that's a hinge and a custom dustcover?

>>34611545
Whatever you can get some sucker to pay for it.

>>34611499
Probs

>>34611545
More than it should be.

>>34611560
Gesus! If Hillary won I'd probably get $1000 for it. I'm thinking it's a hard sell at $500

>>34611545
You mean an SGL? 7.62 or 5.45?

Assuming fixed stock, it's worth 1200-1400 in brand new condition.

>>34611579
Yes, very hard. No one will want it, better give it to me.

>>34611461
That would probably look even worse.

>>34611587
7.62

I can't remember what it was listed at, but I did purchase it brand new in box from some company in Texas. Gonna check my emails to see the info. Hold on.

>>34611599
I'm just taking about changing the angle of the face of the stock hinge by 2 degrees (since 4.5mm and 5.5mm rear trunnions have a 2 degree difference in angle). It would look exactly the same.

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So, during qualification I've never been able to shoot better than 29/40.

Turns out I'm fucking left eye dominant and right handed.
How do I fix this and will it differ between the M4 and my personal AKs?

>>34611587
Found it:
"Saiga AISGL20-41 ARSENAL SAIGA 762X39"

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>>34611625
Buy a PK-AS, it'd actually be perfect for you

>>34611622
Just a couple of degrees will make a huge difference though in appearance.

>>34611643
Glass?

>>34611625
>How do I fix
Close your left eye or learn to shoot left handed.

>>34611636
Ah, an SGL 20 then. Prices have shot up since the sanctions. Unless it's beat to shit or flawed in some way you can reasonably expect 1200.

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>Selling FAL Saturday
>Buyer speaks very broken English with a thick eastern European accent
>Says he's 65, has a CPL, is a US citizen, and not a felon
>Still really hesitant about meeting at a gun shop and doing everything the gay legal WA way of background check and transfers and all that
Honestly ever since background checks became mandatory in WA I've never once followed that law, but this guy is just a little sketchy and I'd rather be on the safe side and be a goody two shoes instead of getting boned by the law if something goes sour

I've sold a lot of guns over the years and this is the first time where it just feels weird, hopefully he turns out alright and I don't get raped

>>34611480
shh don't worry it'll always exist in my heart on on my hard drive

Who knows, eventually in the coming years I'll finally buy an R1 and then it'll be back. I honestly forgot all about that picture

>>34611489
One piece vs two piece construction, smooth vs faceted, short collars are nicer looking imo. Bulgarian brakes have more of a matte dull grey finish whereas Russians are darker black and more shiny

>>34611490
They're all the same, they're all made by Izhmash and like Chimps would say Izhmash wouldn't waste the energy to produce different types to top covers for both sporter and military rifles

>>34611671
>They're all the same, they're all made by Izhmash and like Chimps would say Izhmash wouldn't waste the energy to produce different types to top covers for both sporter and military rifles
Why are you talking like Chimps is dead? Did I miss something?

>>34611671
You'll be fine, just get to the shop before him and leave after he does
>get the r1 soon and we can have a 4 piece pic :^

>>34611642
>Buy a PK-AS, it'd actually be perfect for you
Will that attach to my normal WASR rail?

>>34611687
Yes, they're designed for AK rails. Get it zeroed to your rifle and then never take it off. They're designed to be used both eyes open but with your left eye, unlike literally every other optic ever. Literally exactly what you need, cause you can keep your normal stance

>>34611135
>or gook friends you want to dress up as NVA

Got a laugh out of me.

>>34611625
>How do I fix this

With an optic. I'm incredibly nearsighted with astigmatism and am cross dominant. Corrective lenses and an aimpoint solved all of my problems.

>>34611642
Hey bulgecat, are you actually dumping that mk12 upper? Isn't that basically 70% of the total cost of the whole clone?

>>34611666
Beat to shit, no. But the muzzle is pinned/welded. Would have to remove, and get a new brake probably.

To be honest, I would be happy getting what I have into it. About $700 after taxes/shipping/gunsmith costs.

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>>34611671
>Selling FAL Saturday

Good, because once I'm done fiddling with my ARs I'm going to start dumping more money into this and I intend to augpost here. We can touch tips then, right?

>>34611700
Yep, sold my DPMS lower so I don't even have anything to do with it. With a 100-120 for a bipod the upper would technically be done for about 900-950 unless I wanted to get BUIS, then the optic+rings would ran me about 1500-1700, and the lower would been 200 shipped for an A1 profile blank plus cost of a jig plus cost of engraving, then the cost of an autism LPK and then another 2-300 for a trigger, probably geissele SSP, and then like 200 for a JPSCS. Just too much money for a gun that honestly I only wanted because it looked pretty. Shooting ARs is boring as fuck

>>34611287
I think the reason it's comfy in here is that /akg/ is largely here out of love of the gun more than anything else. AKs are not the easiest guns to build, work on, find parts for, etc., and lately we've been dealing with the government (and the industry, surprisingly) make it harder and harder to get a quality one at all.

From an objective standpoint, the path of least resistance would've been to abandon AKs altogether and get different guns that are more modern, more ergonomic, more accurate, etc. Instead we all just kinda shrug it off and keep doing AKs because we think they're cool and we like them, and those are the only reasons we need.

I think that's also why we don't get into brand fights very often either. There are guys in here with extremely expensive and autistic Russian parts kit builds or entire collections of AKs, but I've never seen them look down on dudes who just dressed up their WASR a bit. At most, we shit on guys considering American-made AKs, but it's less brand elitism and more us trying to keep people from making a bad purchase. It's not like /arg/ or /brg/ where if you don't have a $2000-3000 gucci gun you're just a poorfag - all we care about is having a quality AK (and not Tapcofucking it too much).

I love you guys.

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>>34611663
Aimpoint pro.

>>34611716
>The autism fit /arg/ throws when you post an AR with 1.5" of extra barrel coming out from under the rail.
They should be studied.

>>34611716
>. At most, we shit on guys considering American-made AKs, but it's less brand elitism and more us trying to keep people from making a bad purchase.
Home builders and people buying from home builders get shit on by tripfags a lot.
At least if it's not built by those same home-building tripfags.

>>34611736
There was a cautionary tale in the making the other week when a guy bought a home-build and it turned out to be absolute dogshit, so there is that

>>34611736
Wouldn't you shit on someone buying literally anything built by a random hobbyist in their garage? I wouldn't buy a kit plane from a rando and I'd laugh at anyone who did.

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>>34611735
It's like an early-20th century women's dresscode or something.

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>>34611741
That's actually what I was thinking about.
Aside from the horribly shitty selector markings and the literally retarded-tier trade he made there was nothing wrong with the rifle.

People were acting like it was the end of the world.

>>34611749
I personally prefer the idea of garage-made kit builds.
I don't own one yet, only WASRs so far, but there's something unique about something made by a hobbyist.
A kit plane built by a random garage-autismo that loves planes would be more "special" to me than something out of a plastic box.
I feel like there's more soul in it.

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>>34611769

>>34611782
I believe the receiver was also slightly warped too. Without feeling it in person there's no way to know if it was headspaced, how well it cycled, and how well everything else was done too, or how it'll hold up to firing

>>34611735
I enjoy a 13" handguard on a 16" barrel, but at least we're past the days of the 203 cut 16" "m4" barrels.

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>>34611654
I'm not sure you're picking up what I'm putting down. The only place you would possibly be able to tell the difference would be if your eye were sharp enough to memorize the exact angle of the interface between stock and trunnion. Everything else would be exactly the same. I have an Arsenal folder and a Russian folder on my desk side by side.

>>34611782
>I feel like there's more soul in it.
Yeah, yours. Haunting the remains of it after it kills your ass because Cletus or Frank did a screw build, or JB welded the wing struts .

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>>34611799
>mfw I have 2 ARs that have those barrels on them still because I just don't care about ARs enough to have them cut

1P87 bois, see how much dosh it will take to make this guy ship international:

http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/100/2106704.html

>>34611782
>A kit plane built by a random garage-autismo that loves planes would be more "special" to me than something out of a plastic box.
I think you're thinking of a different kind of kit plane.

He's talking about the kind you register with the FAA and fly inside of from the local municipal airport, not 1/72 and 1/144 models.

>>34611794
>I believe the receiver was also slightly warped too
I think he was getting meme'd because he seemed clueless.
I compared the picture he had to my WASRs and SAR and it looked the exact same; unless the Cugir factory fucked me over three times in a row.

That said, hopefully the guy was smart enough to check the headspace and ask the guy to prove it by blowing through a magazine.
I'm just assuming he wasn't dumb enough to trade for it straight up without any functions checks.

>>34611837
I thought you were talking functional/remote control scale models desu.

>>34611804
You'd be able to tell when you looked at the end of the receiver. The issue isn't the stocks themselves/your idea of the stock, I just think that, with that kind of angle, it'd look wonky, you'd have the 4.5mm rear trunnion that wants to point down, with a 5.5 angled stock which would break the natural line of
>this is the way the stock is going
It's just like how the Ironwood improved N-PAP furniture looks just a bit weird, the angles are all off.

>>34611809
But getting back on topic, /akg/ is undeniably generally negative towards garage builds.
Not to mention the hate for (admittedly shitty) American AKs.
Not saying it's not usually deserved criticism, but /akg/ isn't the all-accepting anti-/arg/ that the other guy was billing it as.

/newtogeneral/ here, do you guys get just as intricately autistic about clone builds as the fags in /arg/?

>>34611891
Pretty much.

>>34611891
Only if the person is going for a clone build.
If he's just trying to make something that "kinda looks like it" there's no issue.

Holy shit why do people take forever to email back? Some dude on armslist actually showed interest in my mk12 upper despite me listing it at 1600 fucking dollars and he NEEDS to buy it

>>34611882
Different types of criticism too tho

>>34611891
Soothing autism vs rage autism
If you try to clone in /akg/ you will actually get advice on how to do it and support for what you do

>>34611824
There are two things I like about ARs.

The first is that, since I only intend to own two complete ARs at once, I can swap out parts easily on a whim with very few specialized tools.

The second is that I can replace them easily. If someone breaks in to my home, I'm grabbing the AR. While it would be super neat and all to see what 8m3 can do, it's a whole lot fucking cheaper to replace the rifle that fires 50gr TSX.

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>>34611678
He stopped tripping, he finally found another anime girl and now they're married, he's done with /akg/ because he's too busy having anime girl sex

>>34611679
I just want it gone so I can have money for another gun instantly

>>34611714
Nigga we can touch tips now

My only plans for it so far is pick up an MRO and more mags, I don't mind keeping it stock for a while. I want to check out the Corvus Defensio shell deflector (even though velcro works fine) and their trigger pack if they ever release it

>>34611716
:') ily m8

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>>34611782
Hello mister jackpot

>>34611891
/akg/ is generally pretty helpful with clone builds, actually.

>>34611902
>Holy shit why do people take forever to email back?

It's past midnight in some parts of the US, he probably went to sleep. Alternatively, email him some of your cats, that'll get him to respond.

>>34611940
>He stopped tripping, he finally found another anime girl and now they're married, he's done with /akg/ because he's too busy having anime girl sex
So... he finally killed himself because of his ex? R.I.P. Chimps

>>34611940
I feel that

One day we'll all have the slavshit we so desire

>>34611944
>ay dawg you took too long to respond so here's some bulges to get you back into the game
He just emailed me like 10 mins ago and I sent him an email 4 mins after he sent his. I just find it absurd people don't check their communication devices semi-regularly, especially when they should be expecting a response

>>34611940
>My only plans for it so far is pick up an MRO and more mags

I'm swapping out my high rail for Pete's extended and getting a micro aimpoint for mine. The PRO is destined for another rifle and I think a micro dot like the MRO or T-2 would work out better. Might get a light for it at some point, but that's further on down the line.

As for the Corvus Defensio stuff, I like the idea of the brass deflector but the $4 pack of velcro strips I bought the day mine came in works for me. Supposedly they were submitting the trigger pack to Steyr for qualification, whatever that means. I know Geissele/ALG confirmed that they're working on something for the AUG, which I assume is what they contributed to the Corvus pack. Time will tell.

>>34611952
>I just find it absurd people don't check their communication devices semi-regularly

I'll admit that I got just a little asshurt when it took someone on the files a week to leave positive feedback for me when I left mine the day (literally within minutes) I got my item.

>>34611901
>>34611902
>>34611944
fuck, you guys seem a lot less toxic.
Kind of a vague question, but how feasible is it to build a complete "spetznaz" clone?
I was looking at getting a zenit rail and a sgl31/slr104

>>34611940
Just be aware that the MRO has a relatively large parallax shift when you're not lined up right on the optic due to the fisheye lens. EOTechs will give you the lease parallax shift, followed by Aimpoint T-2s and Vortex's better red dot offerings. There was a long 80-something page paper about it recently.

>>34611941
Remind me what happened here? It almost looks like the guy welded the front trunnion in place.

>>34611944
Clone builds are like 70% of what we do with AKs anyway.

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>tfw I want a Yugo style but I don't want a piece of shit NPAP
Life is suffering.
It's either hunt down a used OPAP or an even rarer Yugo UF.

Should've never sold my old OPAP to buy my AR.

>>34612018
Special boy didn't have access to a rivet set. He probably didn't have access to a no go gauge either jugding by the look of things

>>34611941
>Hello mister jackpot
Mister jackpot?

>>34612011
Easy but expensive

SLR104 will run you about 900-1k, and a full set of Zenit stock, grip, top rail, and handguards another 1k. But if you piece together only a few maybe 5-600 depending what you get?

>>34612032
Heeeeeelllloooooooooo

>>34612011
Depends on what you mean by that. Do you have a pic of the look you're after? Spets uses a lot of different stuff. Lots of 100 series AKs in addition to modified 74Ms out there. Depending on how far back you go, you'll even start treading into AK-74N/AKS-74N territory.

>>34612041
Drunk or a joke from before I started browsing /akg/?

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>>34612043
Gonna guess somethin like this

>>34612011
I think you mean an "Alpha" clone, right? You can go the cheap American way or you can go the right way, which isn't cheap.

>>34612022
Bowmen is importing some m21 kits

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>>34611309
iktf

>>34612088
That's not even close to an AK-74M though. Also you intentionally made it ugly as you could just to
>ebin troll XD ppl

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>>34611977
Yeah I plan on sticking with velcro but the deflector seems cool even if it's pretty expensive

>Geissele/ALG confirmed that they're working on something for the AUG
Oh neat, I didn't know they confirmed it. Is the stock AUG trigger really that bad or is it exaggerated because it isn't a match AR trigger and it's a bullpup?

>>34612018
I've fooled around with MROs in person and it doesn't bug me, it's not like I'll be shooting for hyper accuracy. I'll just shoot in the mountains with it like with all my other guns

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>>34612142
>>34612018
>mfw I bought an MRO

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What A E S T H E T I C sling should I get for my Vepr-12?

>>34612206
RPK sling. Heavy duty sling for a heavy duty gun.

>possible mk12 buyer emailed me, sent me a phone number, asked some questions, then said he'd like a bore shot in the morn
I like where this is going

>>34612237
>inb4 do you ship?

>>34612231
agreed, preferably mustard

>>34612241
I ship everything so long as I get paid. His area code is an FL one tho

>>34612231
Thought about it, but I don't like the dual sling hook thing as much as I thought I would.

Also, any of the Russian canvas slings I'm pretty sure I could use as a fucking tow strap
>once used one as a dog leash for GFs 100lb dog cause she left hers at home
Was unable to get the clip off once we got to the dog park, I usually have to use pliers.

I'm thinking about getting like a black fagpul sling, but I might try out the Russian canvas sling..

>>34612255
The second hook slides right off if you want to use it like an ordinary single-hook.

>package handed over to customs

am i gonna make it bros?

>>34610180
Finished up my first AK, a barreled Polish receiver from Atlantic. Fucking Morrissay receiver needed a dremel job to accept magazines but besides the inherent issues with shittily made US-receivers I absolutely love it. Will be stopping by AKG more to jack off and ask for good spots to get barreled AK74 receivers.

>>34612268
True. Other than the 2nd hook and mostly worthless shoulder pad, is there even a difference between the standard AK sling and the RPK sling?

>>34612306
Nope, and considering many standard AK slings come with a second hook the only difference is the pad. If there's a difference in thickness or construction, I can't perceive it.

I do think RPKs and VEPRs look nice with the padded sling.

>>34612296
>barreled AK74 receivers
Got some bad news for you, anon...

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>>34612317
I have the padding on my RPK and it slides around a lot.

This doesn't look bad, I might get a mustard sling for it. Found a few for $10 on the AK files

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>>34612255
I have a Yugo M92 sling on my Vepr 12.
It works well, and being a Yugo guy, I like the sling keep better.

>>34612345
Got a pic?

why do you guys stack FMJ for shtf when its such an inferior load for a 7.62x39?>>34610725
>>34610821

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>>34612361
It doesn't really show the sling all that great.

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>>34612382
>stocking for SHTF
What is buying in bulk dude?

I keep a few mags loaded with what I call the ATF part mix; alternating FMJ/HP/SP

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>>34612318
I have no tools and I'm a poor college student god damnit world.

>>34612393
Neat, not bad but the yugo slings are a little thin for me.
IDK how I feel about the wood on the V12 especially since theyre not the original RPK style handguards. I actually couldn't get my RPK handguards to fit my V12. Space between the receiver and the trunnion was WAYY too tight. I would have had to file the handguards down too far to put back on my RPK.

I am considering cutting the pistol grip off of my wood thumbhole stock and using it as the grip for my vepr.. I almost feel bad because it is such a pretty stock, but I doubt there is a market for it.

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>>34612280
It should've cleared within minutes

>>34612409
F

>>34612382
Because the only decent non-FMJ shit out there is 8m3 and a distant second is the hornady shit. Plus holopoints and soft points can cause feeding issues in some AK's.

>>34612038
Got it, thanks.
>>34612043
Basically >>34612050 , saw the larry vickers video on the alpha AK, and I've been wanting it to build something like that since

>>34612411
What do you have coming?

>7 packages coming only one seized so far

>>34612423
Putting furniture and accessories on a rifle isn't building it btw.

>>34612423
http://www.russian-thunder.com/product-page/klassika-full-modification-kit-anodized-black
Here's the long rail version, use this one a short 100 series on or use the B10 and a B19 for a full length rifle desu

>>34612413
so you settle for a weapon platform that is limited to sub-par ammunition? my AK feeds soft points just find, also hornady SST is a thing...

i just dont get the point of stacking 8k rounds of target FMJ for "shtf" when its basically worse than pistol self defense ammo

>>34612382
I don't stack for shtf, I buy in bulk because it's cheaper per round

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>>34612398
>alternating FMJ/HP/SP
No tracers?
Tsk tsk, doesn't sound like that great
of an ATF party.

>>34612408
That set was made specifically for Vepr 12s/Saiga 12s.
It's got a much smaller rear lug than standard RPK handguards do.
>I did have a plum set on it prior, and they had to be filed way down to fit.
Yugo slings are thinner, but only just.
They feel just as sturdy, and seem a lot more flexible when they're new.

I'm confused, when did FMJ stop killing people?

>>34612458
>basically worse
;-;

>>34612466
Since forever, duh! All those people killed by FMJ projectiles since the fucking 19th century? Not real.

>>34612466
when did .22lr stop killing people? just because it works doesnt make it ideal...again i understand stacking for target practice and use when ammo is sparse but a lot of people have the mentality of "stockpiling for SHTF" and im just asking why, if you are in such dire straights and living such a hard life because SHTF, would you give yourself the worse option of available rounds?

>>34612480
>muh .22
Stop being dumb anon, niggers have been killing each other with FMJ since forever, shit tumbles good and kills things dead

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>>34612461
They're my last stand mags. Don't need tracers to shoot 20 feet.

Ah. I thought about putting a full RPK stock set on this cocksucker then going to the local fudd trap range, but didn't want to sacrifice my RPK set.

>>34612427
O yeh, I'm just using the word in the context of making something
>>34612434
Thanks senpaitachi

>>34612458
M43 and M67 perform quite differently

I would be entirely comfortable defending myself with GT, for example, although 8M3 would be my first preference.

>>34612458
>hornady SST
Gay, faggy, lmao. 8m3 or git

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>>34612490
>Don't need tracers to shoot 20 feet
>Need
Now where's the fun in that?
Although I don't think they start tracing until ~50ft.

Yeah, I grabbed just a set of plum handguards a few years back, and they were cheap enough to cut up.
Fuck was the gas tube handguard a pain to get on/off though.
>You know, you have to wear gloves and twist hard as shit just to budge it.

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>>34612531
Dude, same. When I tried to get the gas tube off my plum RPK set, everyone on /k/ was laughing like its so fucking easy. "Just twist it"

Wound up having to use my padded motorcycle gloves and a vice. Not vice grips, but an actual table vice.

>>34612570
I want an RPK so bad. What is the cheapest way to get a decent one these days?

Used Century Romanian one?

>>34612614
>who cares, you can't afford it and you'll be asking about something else tomorrow
AES-10B is the only ways to get one without dealing with a bunch of bullshit

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>>34612619
Lel. Okay thanks.

>>34612570
I know.
I'm the one who told you to use gloves and an actual vice.
After fucking with you to get plum for your RPK, the least I could do was try to help you get it on.
What a nightmare it is, but it does look really good, or did rather since you went back to wood.

>>34612628
>RM06 and XS Big Dot sights
>"I want to be super accurate with handgun shooting but also not"

>>34612632
It always comes back to you <3.

I wish I had another AES10b so I could have one of both. I'll have an M72 soon but it's just not the same.

I did use the grip from the plum set on my AK74. Looks nicer than the off red Russian Bakelite it came with. It turns out plum looks way better with the sunburst stock than Bakelite

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>>34612649
Yes, it does.
We have similar tastes, or I at least push my "wants" onto you.
And you oblige, which I appreciate.

I'm kinda thinking about an M72 as well, but I'm kinda wishy washy on it.
On the one hand, I've got 8 40rnd bakes, a few molot steel 40s, and a few drums that would go great with one.
On the other hand, what else could pop up in the meantime, that I could've blown that money on.
It's a struggle, like with you and that RPD.

>>34612683
I bought a kit, barrel, and receiver over a month or two so it was really easy to justify in my head.

I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger on that RPD. It would be cool but I don't quite make enough money for it to be cool enough.

Hey Zasta, check this out
https://youtu.be/pCIpVGhEn5A

Im thinking of getting an slr107. Who's got one? Anything I should know? Any better/cheaper alternatives?

>>34612719
Yeah, I was checking out the kits JRA built on Atlantic, but they disappeared just as fast as they popped up.
So a kit build would be about the only way, currently.
Just not sure I'm willing to be that patient about it.

Too bad that one at auction I sent to you went for as much as a new one does.
Would've been great to see you be able to grab it for a grand or so.
Oh well, c'est la vie.

>>34612775
Which one?

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>>34610180
No offense guys but why buy an AK over a AR15?

>>34612801
FR, which is just the regular plain one iirc. It fits what I want so I figured if anyone here had anything worthwhile to say about em.

>>34612836
MEMES. To be completely honest, it's an aesthetic decision. They both perform about the same, both have decent after market, and their common calibers are about on par with each other. If you want to hunt, I'd suggest an AK just for the heavier bullet. If you're target shooting, I'd suggest an AR because they're easier to accurize.

>>34612857
They're great rifles I guess? Only downside I've seen is the bolts.

>>34612836
>over
Who's says you can't have both?
You AR guys seem to have this weird thinking, where it can only be one or the other.
We say, "Bof a dem"

>>34612836
I like the action more, they're more fun to shoot and alot more pleasing to look at. Really both 5.45 and 7.62 is cheaper then 5.56 and bringing any sort of AK makes people drool over it at the ranges.

>>34612997
I thought AK was generally agreed as being an ugly gun

>>34613006
kys

>>34613006
ARs are ugly as hell besides the retros, plus they have no soul. such a boring gun in general.

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>>34612142
>Is the stock AUG trigger really that bad

Modern AUG triggers aren't, not really.

>or is it exaggerated because it isn't a match AR trigger

Pretty much this. People have a tendency to be spoiled by 2 stage AR triggers (or light, easy triggers in general) and apply that standard to everything else because it allows them to make excuses for shitty fundamentals.

>>34613617
>People have a tendency to use modern technology and apply that standard to antiquated crap because they are soft and spoiled, not true hard men like back in my day!

t. boomer

>>34609813
>>34609818
i'll dump it now since it seems to be quiet, 24 pics/pages total

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>>34613730

>>34612280

BZZZZT its gone, do not pass go, do not collect slavshit.


if it passes customs it passes almost immediately.

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>>34613761

>>34613761
>this is a good day
ice cube?

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>>34613792

>>34613640
You can believe whatever you want to believe, but modern AUG triggers are nowhere near as hard to shoot with as many people claim they are.

For what it's worth, the Tavor SAR is a more modern bullpup with an actually terrible trigger. Doesn't stop people from shooting it well.

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>>34613813

>>34613816
Because farmers in Africa just carrying around Kalashnikovs on their backs all the time, right?

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>>34613825
next one is >>34610180
so i'll skip it

>>34613821
I would

>>34613825
Jesus, I didn't notice until now how horribly the fsb is drawn in these

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>>34613838

>>34613838
>my son, you must choose your right of passage, drink cow piss or take this shitty old rusty rifle that probably is so seized up with rust and corrosion from over a decade of corrosively primed ammunition being used in it with little to no maintenance

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>>34613847

>>34613860
#kony2012

>>34613864
Oh hai, I thought you died and got yourself a 2D gf?

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>>34613860

>>34613864
lol

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>>34613878

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>>34613887
last one

>>34613887
Why does he wear the mask?

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>>34613971
he doesn't want to be black?
it's africa, who knows

>>34614009
>that cetme
;-;

>>34613894
Thanks anon!

>>34613971
If you pulled that off, would he die?

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>>34612206
I like the looks of the Russian naval sling on mine.

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>>34612570
My AES-10B upper handguard was really dry, ended up breaking. Getting the stock off was a pain in the ass as well, had to beat it off with a boot.

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>>34612765
Shittt nice footage.

>>34614335
You can thanks lebbit.

>>34614216
did you have to dremel down that stock?
my plum furniture doesn't fit

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>>34614336
No

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>>34614364
No, just sanded to fit.

>>34614412
That's where I got the source though ;-;

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>>34614038
>>34614361
>>34614427

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>>34614619
>tfw my guns will never morph into cute anime girls to keep my company when I'm not shooting them and then morph back into guns when it's time to operate

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>>34614687

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I'm about to jump on a SA 93 for 1200, fac new according to the seller and it looks pretty nice. Should I? I would get it done up to be as close as possible to a type 3 AK.

>>34614945
>gas block
>fsb
>cleaning rod.
>lower rear tang.

Just snagged,
>shittly painted black romanian dong furniture sans buttstock
>gas tube
>safety
For $40 shipped.
It's going to fit perfectly with the black painted balkan war trench art buttstock I've got sitting around.

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>>34614687

>>34614985
So is that a yes or no?

>>34612409
>>34612280
I've had shit take a month to clear customs in NY. It's always on stuff from Ukraine or Russia.

>>34615036
Sure. Get it.

>>34615049
Same. Anywhere from 3 days to 3 months. I ordered patches on eBay and called it a lost. 3 months later they appeared.

>>34615049
Different customs guys. Getting your shit handed over to RU customs is generally a death sentence

>>34615084
Wait for FSB to kick down the sellers door.

Fuck yeah, Bonesteel the Hedgeheg just came in the mail.

Anyone wants pics?

>>34615187
no

>>34615198
I meant the Bonesteel stock.

So, has /akg/ been harassed in the work place lately?
https://youtu.be/uZTgpgafrdI

>>34615202
You heard the man

>>34615244
Ok.

>>34615243
I am the one who harasses

New thread

>>34615283

>>34615283

>>34615283

>>34615247
lol, post what you want

>>34614197
He's a nig guy.