/meg/ - Military Enlistment General

Does training count towards your contract length? Like, if I had a contract for three years, and I went to the DLI for 62 weeks to learn Chinese, would I only have 2 years left on my contract?

I signed up for the marines and i'm in the DEP, but the MOS I want isn't currently available and there's no guarantee it'll be available by the time i'm set to ship out.

Is there any way I can actually delay my ship date if by the time I ship the MOS I want still isn't available?

>>34557371
Yes, training time does count, but there's a catch. Jobs with long schools will generally require you to sign for 6 years.

>>34557383
The DEP is pretty meaningless, you aren't legally required to ship at all.

Tell your recruiter ASAP that you won't ship without that MOS otherwise they'll get pissed and make life difficult for when you back out a week before your ship date.

Can anyone fill me in on 1812/19K?
>what's it like
>do I need a lot of upper body strength
>do you deploy a lot
>is this a good idea for a fresh high school graduate or have I watched too much old combat footage and GuP

What is life like as a 68W?

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>>34557349
What is the absolute worst job in the military if I want to suffer both physically and mentally?

>>34557761
1. It cramped and every position is lots of fun
2. Having upper body strength helps, but after you are a loader you gain it fast
3. Nobody except for SOF and pilots deploys anymore
4. Won't learn anything for when you leave the military, but you can use the GI bill if you want

>>34557012
>>34557055
>>34557076
>>34557105

>>34557130
>speaks to young men looking to prove themselves

People in the thread speak out against the marines because they get the harder shittier more likely to die jobs with worse equipment and bases etc. (at least I think that's why mainly).
17-19yr olds basically hear that the marines are the hardest baddest fuckers and do all the ass kicking and so they can't imagine its worth joining anything else because joining something else would be pussy as fuck.
The PRO isn't entirely true, but nobody comes to the thread and says "all i want is to be a badass and kill people" so join the marines is never the right answer.

>>34557820
Military police

If you want to be an all around bamf, go 18x.

A smart bamf, go AF CCT or CC

If you are half retarded, Debil Doggs.

>>34557975
>Air Force
>letting you pick your job
Enjoy the dice roll from your 10 desired AFSCs

>>34558047

They let you pick in the dep, just like any other branch.

>>34557975
You have to be over the age of 18 to post ehre, also stop giving advice cause you've never served.
>>34557820
Undes airman or seaman in the NAVY. Youre a literal slave.

>>34557902
So do you just do endless exercises then? I'm fine with it either way really.
Were you a tanker?

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if you ain't infantry, you ain't shit.

If you ain't cav, you ain't shit.

>>34558179
If you are enlisted and not combat arms, you are a slave

>>34558576
this post makes absolutely no sense

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>>34558576
wtf you talkin bout boy

>>34558678
I thought she was korean for a second with that jawline, but it was too wide even for koreans. jesus...

>tfw you read With the Old Breed and decide to go infantry
Forgive me /meg/

>>34558761
same here ,man.

>>34558761
you should give Glory in the Trenches a shot too

>>34557349
there's not even enough room there to write down "one-hundred"

Should I go infantry?

>>34558966
Go cav instead. You do all the same shit as Infantry, except you also learn about light vehicles, promote much faster, and get an enlistment bonus

>>34559000
Too late, I'm depped in the marines.

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AF BMT; Are compression shorts a yea or nay?

I'm finding mixed answers.

>>34559655
There will be ones you can buy at the BMT shop to wear during PT if you choose.
The PT shorts do have this mesh in them like a swimsuit that will hold your junk together.

Protip: When you go to the BMT shop for the first time, buy the hanes white underwear if your MTI lets you.
The standard issue shit is fucking horrendous.

Reminder that no branch is a "bad" idea and that each offer something unique.

>>34558761
>tfw fell for the meme but didn't go 03

>>34557975
>A smart bamf, go AF CCT
CCT has an 85% washout rate combined with heinous PT and the fact that they must be certified under FAA standards

>>34557349
Took the asvab a week ago and did fairly well, 87 afqt , 120+ line scores

If you dont have much time to study definitely bone up in math and vocabulary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0brxMViHuk&t=2s [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLHEJWe_0kI&t=14643s [Embed]

these are pretty good, the majority is not on the test but its good to get used to the subject matter (formulas, Orders of operations, variables, fractions etc. )

some anon posted a thread ( Thanks man ) with this practice website that had me learn a few new problems that were on the test to my relief.

http://asvabpracticetestonline.com/

If you have more time to prepare , delve into the other subjects more deeply. In my opinion the ASVAB for dummies book ( though I didnt use that book specifically ) is worth the money seeing as it will aid a score that will determine what you are going to do for the next 4+ years of your life.

goodluck fellas

DLAB PREP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om4A8Y29ovs&t=272s

>>34560327
How important is General Science? It covers so much I don't know what to study

>>34557820
Any special forces stuff I suppose but honestly being an AST or surf man in the coast guard is pretty bad. Blown out disks tweaked knees the list goes on plus you have to live with the fact that there are people you couldn't save and possibly died in your arms or looked you in the eyes as they breath their last breaths it ain't easy shit man

>>34560346
honestly it pretty much general stuff that most people should know.

Example:

How many bones in the human body?

which is a single celled organism?

what degree Celsius does water freeze?


The asvab practice test website gives good examples and some of the questions were on the actual asvab but worded differently.

but to answer your question, not very important . focus on math and vocabulary.Again the practice asvab website gives great examples of whats on the test especially the Math part. If there is a type of problem you don't know how to do, learn it along with similar problems

Realistically, what is the difference between the Army and the Marines?

>>34560428
marines run an extra mile on their pt test and they don"t get to pick their job, thats really all i know maybe someone can give you better input

>>34560428
mission priorities

>>34560428
There should be an answer for questions like these in the sticky

>>34560428
Marines have shitter equipment, shittier bases except for japan, shittier attitudes, and have to work twice as hard just so that they can say MUH CORPS

>>34560369
100% wrong

>>34560428
Here's a non meme answer
Marines are a shittier version of the army

>>34555806
Second opinion from a psyche doc who DOES or DOES NOT know my past records?
My med facility has records shared all over within itself. Getting it from a separate provider might be troublesome.
Just being sure I follow the plan as my healthcare is not the usual type based on Insurance, but rather my bloodline.

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>>34560428
Marines have better uniforms and the best hats. Marines also get to bang trashiest of the trash bar chicks while the Army usually has more depandas. They also get the worst equipment and many of their mechanics can't do their jerbs. The physical PT for marines is about 1/3rd more than the Army, if you enjoy sweating your balls off than it's a good choice. Marine Corps has a limited amount of bases, want to go to Europe? Bahaha ayylmao maybe you can get lucky and train with the Royal Marines for a deployment on a socialist little rainy island filled with kebabs.

Main perk of joining the Marines is having a funeral were other Marines dressed in flashy uniforms carry your casket, so you can go out in style before you are 6 feet under.

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>Don't leave until November
>All personal relationships already in the shitter
Fucking 3 1/2 more months...

Does anyone know anything about machinist mate rating here?

Is it a bad engineering rating compared to the others? I was only offered ratings in engineering and I picked this one so I want an idea of what to expect.

>>34562998
how do you like being in cramped spaces in excess of 140 degrees F?

>>34562998
Now each of us from time to time has gazed upon the sea
and watched the mighty warships pulling out to keep this country free.
And most of us have read a book or heard a lusty tale,
about these men who sail these ships through lightning, wind and hail.
But there's a place within each ship that legend's fail to teach.
It's down below the water-line and it takes a living toll
- - a hot metal living hell, that sailors call the "Hole."
It houses engines run with steam that makes the shafts go round.
A place of fire, noise, and heat that beats your spirits down.
Where boilers like a hellish heart, with blood of angry steam,
are molded gods without remorse, are nightmares in a dream.

Whose threat from the fires roar, is like a living doubt,
that at any moment with such scorn, might escape and crush you out.
Where turbines scream like tortured souls, alone and lost in Hell,
are ordered from above somewhere, they answer every bell.
The men who keep the fires lit and make the engines run,
are strangers to the light and rarely see the sun.
They have no time for man or God, no tolerance for fear,
their aspect pays no living thing a tribute of a tear.
For there's not much that men can do that these men haven't done,
beneath the decks, deep in the hole, to make the engines run.
And every hour of every day they keep the watch in Hell,
for if the fires ever fail their ship's a useless shell.

>>34562998
>>34563116

When ships converge to have a war upon an angry sea,
the men below just grimly smile at what their fate will be.
They're locked below like men fore-doomed, who hear no battle cry,
it's well assumed that if they're hit men below will die.
For every day's a war down there when gauges all read red,
twelve-hundred pounds of heated steam can kill you mighty dead.

So if you ever write their songs or try to tell their tale,
the very words would make you hear a fired furnace's wail.
And people as a general rule don't hear of these men of steel,
so little heard about this place that sailors call the "Hole."
But I can sing about this place and try to make you see,
the hardened life of the men down there, 'cause one of them is me.
I've seen these sweat-soaked heroes fight in superheated air,
to keep their ship alive and right, though no one knows they're there.

And thus they'll fight for ages on till warships sail no more,
amid the boiler's mighty heat and the turbine's hellish roar.
So when you see a ship pull out to meet a war-like foe,
remember faintly if you can, "The Men Who Sail Below."

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>>34563108
I can fit in those spaces, and heat? Never been a problem for me I worked in very hot environments before sweating like a pig.

I got rused by my classifier (partially my fault for not doing enough research) I could have gone Quartermaster that day instead but well I was dumb thinking what Tyrone was telling me is true, worst case scenario is I'll end up ending DEP then wait 6 months for a waiver and switching over to Air Force to be with my pops or something.

>>34558761
Dumbass, are you expecting to fight Japs on Okinawa? Have fun cleaning toilets the next four years

>>34563116
>>34563123
This makes me sad

>>34557926
You tell me after I sign the paperwork.

>>34563546
Why do you want to mentally and emotionally kill yourself?

Which branch has the most disciplined personnel?

>>34563793
Marines

>>34563895
>drunks
>100% indulge in tobacco
>promiscuous sex
>most likely to marry a stripper

Yeah having forced standards on paper doesn't exactly translate to "discipline" does it

>>34563793
Air Force Reserves

>>34563793
Coast Guard

>>34564065
Source for all those claims?

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tfw i know the military is going to be shit, but civvy life is so boring and i want to get paid to workout.

>>34564408
I'm going in a tad older than most so I have some life experience. What I can say is your going to deal with bullshit no matter what you decide to do.

Different levels and types of bullshit, least with the military you get something for your dues if you don't fuck it all up.

>>34564428
how old are you? im looking at starting mid 30s

>>34564445
Mid 20s, I've lived on my own a bit. Had different jobs, etc I can't relate to bullshit like having a family or anything similar but I'd rather have some stability as a side with a main course of bullshit at this point.

>>34564458
yeah everything is so boring now, people just go to work and think getting dressed up and going to some fancy bar is a good time. i can't stand it, and want at least the opportunity to do some hood rat stuff.

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>>34564355

Official statistics are much better on paper than what really goes on

t. marine

>>34564481
That's not a very good source.

>>34563645
Elaborate on why that mos sucks?

How is Fort McCoy?

Please give me tips for 68W AIT

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>>34564502

how about the commandant of the marines?

>>34564502
2/5 are considered documented heavy drinkers, that does not include those who don't tell medical about drinking habits to avoid additional training, or those who still drink but not heavily

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>>34564502

>>34564666
>>34564730
>>34564481
The whole "we were founded in a bar" Tun Tavern bullshit only encourages it, too. Like that would be shit to be proud of even if it were true

>have spent the past 2 weeks debating whether I should take a Combat MOS or a useful MOS
Help

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I'm really torn between the Navy and the Marine Corps, and I don't know which I like more. I've never been a "dumb" person -- school has always come really easily to me, I like to learn, and I've always been very squared away and mentally capable (never done drugs, alcohol, smoked, eat very clean, work out 5 times a week at least) so I've been told by people that the Air Force and the Navy are the way to go if you've got 'brains.' This is amplified by the fact that I don't have any intention of going infantry.

But on the other hand, I really want to be able to do something that nobody in my family has done before (my father was a Corpsman) and to me, the pride of being able to say "I was a Marine" is really alluring. I'm also able to put up with a tremendous amount of bullshit, and because of that, I've always tried to challenge myself by taking the hardest path possible.

If any Sailors or Marines are present, would you be able to weigh in one way or another?

>>34564922
> the pride of being able to say "I was a Marine" is really alluring
> This is amplified by the fact that I don't have any intention of going infantry

Maybe consider that the only people who aren't going to refer to you as an "army guy" (as in not knowing the difference between the Army and Marines, which is most civies) are going to be calling you a POG. Sounds like you are considering the wrong branch for all the wrong reasons.

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Anyone in the Navy ever submit a DAR? Did you get another rating while in DEP doing so?

>>34564997
More pride for me than anything. I don't want to become motarded. As for the POG lifestyle, I'm totally okay with that.

>>34564922

There's nothing hard about becoming a Marine. Boot camp has a 90% grad rate, higher if you actually want to be there.

It's not a title worth bragging about.

>>34564922
I forgot to mention that I also really, really like guns.

>>34564922
>MUH PRIDE
this is literally the only selling point of the marines. It's how they ripe in people under 20 who feel like they have something to prove.
Go navy or air force. Of you want something that will satisfy your ego while still requiring intelligence, try Air Force TACP or CCT.

Otherwise try for an Air Crew position, or in the navy go for OS, FC, ST, or CT

>>34565078

Guess who gets to play with guns more?

Hint: It's not poorfuck Marines who have to spend 10 hours a day doing nothing.

The biggest gun nuts I've met outside SOF are all hardcore POGs who do a comfy 8 hour day job then use their extra money and free time to hit the range. The military rarely shoots and tends to make the experience shit.

>>34565086
My only contention point with the Air Force is that they seemed like a much more laid back branch. I don't know if this necessarily correlates to a lack of discipline or what, but I just don't think I'd get the full military experience with them.

I like the Navy's heritage and tradition.

>>34565118
>wants "full military experience"
>wants to be a POG


nigga wut. Sounds like you may be more apt just sticking to Call of Duty

>>34565118
The Air Force has gay pride parade shit now on bases.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4DO1JcE-uI&t=1s

What is life like as a 68W when you aren't deployed?

>>34565118
TACPs are a Combat role, and have the possibility to go SOF. Not an office job like 90% of the Air force. Air Crew is also loads of fun while also learning useful skills unless you are a loader.

If you prefer the navy and like guns, go GM

>>34565142
I'm more of an ArmA man, myself.

Also isn't like 90% of the military a person other than grunt? I've got nothing against the Air Force, but I don't think it's a branch that's on the same wavelength as what I'm looking for.

>>34564922
the best advice anyone can give you is to run far, far away from the marine corps, we're a useless bunch of mouth-breathing retards

don't make the same mistake i did anon

>>34565118
>I don't know if this necessarily correlates to a lack of discipline
It does. It so so does.

>>34565356
What MOS are you, anon?

>>34565356
Not those anons, but I'm depped in the marines. What's your MOS?

>>34565453
>>34565505
2676

so some googling prompted me to find the whole march 2 success website, it mentions and is mentioned as being a place to get some decent asvab practice in. And yet it doesn't have an actual section for the asvab instead its some college STEM stuff, a lot of ACT/SAT stuff and some HS review.... I'm guessing ironically the HS review is probably most applicable but what kind of bushleague website is this????

>>34565736
If you need to study for the asvab you have a bushleague brain

>>34565553
What type of clearance did you have to get?

>>34565844
Memes aside,There's nothing wrong with studying for something that may dictate the next 4+ years of your life.

>>34566024
I suppose but the bottom line is if youre stupid youll score low if youre smart youll score high.

>>34566137
Probably baiting but I will bite

If you are stupid and study, you'll score decent or even good. If your smart you'll score high

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i just graduated from boot
anyone have any questions about MCRD SD?

>>34566155
its not bait dude, I walked in the office and never even heard of the asvab and got a 95 on the practice and took the real one a week later and got a 95. Stupid people are just stupid, all there is to it.

>>34566171
How to steal the StG44 in the museum behind the barred glass door on the second floor?

>>34565899
TS

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>>34566336
use your stick

What's the most honorable job in the military?

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Is passing the DLAB required for 35M?

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>>34566618
This bait.

>>34566578
Samurai

>>34566578
Body Bearer

>>34566578
19D

I don't like wearing underwear, is it possible to spend my time in the Marines going commando?

Ship out for BCT in a week, any tips?

>>34566883
What branch

>>34566190
lol the avg 20 and under response vs
>>34566024
someone who has an iota of life experience
i still don't get wtf is going on w/ that website, there just straight up isn't anything directly related to the test there despite one of the purpose for using the site options on registration being "scoring better on avsab" lulz

>>34566903
Army, Ft. Sill

>>34567098
>lol the avg 20 and under response vs
ya and your response is of someone who is stupid, which is why you should study.

>>34566861
yes actually, i have a friend who enjoys what he calls "free ball Friday"

http://www.hornlakemcjrotc.org/00%20-%20CADET%20ADMIN/ASVAB%20AFQT%20for%20Dummies%20(ISBN%20-%200470566523).pdf

here is a little secret for all you interested people

literally a whole 300 page book on how to pass the ASVAB gud

>>34566578
commander in chief

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>>34567188

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>>34566861
>>34567313
Knew an FC1 in the navy who slept nude and when his chief came to see him he yelled get out of your rack right now, top rack btw
So he hopped out and his dick and balls nearly slapped the chief in the face on the way down.

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Why would anyone join the Marines over the Army?

>>34567643
I like being around Mexicans more than Blacks.

>>34567652
This is a very good reason.
I didn't realize the Marines had less blacks than the Army.

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Hey I heard over on double chan that the training for army infantry and marines infantry were basically the same nowadays. Do you consider that true?
If not, which should I join for training in infantry?

>>34567733
Army has more options, room for promotion, better equipment, and less retards.

Marines have more PT during boot camp and everybody under E-9 is a retard. They get a nice dress uniform though
The training for regular old infantry is the same outside of PT.

>>34566578
shit >>34558391

>>34567775
surprisingly little actual PT in marine boot camp nowadays unless you're retarded it's pretty easy to avoid shit like IT

>>34567775
How is room for promotions on the officer side of the Marines?

>>34567881
About as fast at the Army, but you are much more likely to fail Marine OCS than Army OCS making it must riskier from a time consumption point of view. Some classes near 50% attrition if you have douchy cadre

>>34567643
Propaganda

A 3 mile PFT instead of 2 mile makes them the warriors from 300 according to them, and the civi populations mostly buys it

>>34562569
Sorry to hear that man. What will you be doing?

>>34567643
Army regulars have no esprit de corps.

If I walk into the recruiter and say I want to go 19D how fast will I be going to basic?

Also what can 19D do after the military?

11b vs. 11x ?

>>34567643
>>34567662
>>34567733
>>34567775
>>34568040
>>34568277
relevant counter question, why the fuck does anyone who is just going to be infantry join anything but the marines? if you just want to be a door kicker you might as well be a warrior-cult door kicker w/ >>34568277 esprit de corps but if you aspire to anything beyond that... pls dont be muhrine

>>34560492
>Marines have shittier equipment

Stop parroting this. It hasn't been true in a long while.

>>34568344
Because it's super fucking hard to get an airborne slot in the Marines and they hardly have any paratroopers compared to the Army which has an entire airborne Corps.

Which branch is best for IT? Do you think I could finish a software degree online while enlisted?

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>>34568477
uhm


just like
go recon...

>>34568497
You could easily finish an AS in 4 years as a 3D1X2 or 3D0X2, and if you've got some drive to you, you can finish a BS in 6.
Don't enlist for 6, though, since you can always extend on your original contract, up to 8 years total.
FYI, all of your first year you will be doing training and won't really be able to do college classes.

This is USAF btw. Oh yeah, and the AF will pay out up to $4500 every fiscal year for tuition assistance.

>>34568569
What if I'm already halfway done with my BS?

Samefag from past threads about the counseling shit.

"Mood Disorders

Current mood disorders including, but not limited to, major depression (296.2–3), bipolar (296.4–7), affective psychoses (296.8–9), depressive not otherwise specified (311), are disqualifying.

History of mood disorders requiring outpatient care for longer than 6 months by a physician or other mental health professional (V65.40), or inpatient treatment in a hospital or residential facility is disqualifying.

History of symptoms consistent with a mood disorder of a repeated nature that impairs school, social, or work efficiency is disqualifying."

I saw a counselor on and off at randomish intervals for 4 years, and had one of those 'technical' Depression/Adjustment disorders for basically billing purposes on the paperwork. Wordage implied it didn't really hold meaning beyond billing, but still concerned if it comes up somehow, due to the shit I copypasted from above talking about requiring treatment for so long. All voluntary, and as much as like 6+ months between seeing this dude, just popped in when I had life issues to run through him or blow off steam about personal stuff.

>>34568615
I always advocate signing for 4, so give that a shot as a 3D1X2 or 3D0X2 and you shouldn't have a problem finishing your BS.
After that, you'll be in a pretty good position to go civ, continue enlisted, or commission as a 17D/17S.

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why bother going infantry if you'll never be a titanfall pilot
even if you make it to cool guy sof status you'll never run on walls or double jump and shit

>>34568840
You won't even see normal combat. Hope you enjoy cleaning if you go infantry

>>34568931
what about the forces going to Northern Iraq?

>>34567643
>never wanted to be infantry, so a POG in the Corps is the best possible compromise between being a warrior (SEALs, Delta Force, Green Berets) and a weenie
>Marines are very condensed so rivalry is mostly limited between POGs v Infantry and Legs v Wings
>Army is massive with a metric shitton of divisions all of which have their own rivalries and respect for their own unique emblems vs the Marines which only respect the EGA

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So I'm set up to go to MEPS(Air Force) and I'm a total clean bill of health. But the only thing that freaks me out it the whole finger in the pooper deal. What are they looking for? How long does it take? How far up up your ass are they going? Am I going to get disqualified for some stupid shit? My asshole ins't exactly loose, I don't stick things up there.

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>>34569118
I didn't get a finger in the butt.

>>34569118

1. They're not actually going to put a finger up there, just do a visual inspection for issues like hemorrhoids.

2. Either way, you should warm up to the idea of medical professionals touching your butt. That shit is going to happen eventually when you get checked for colon cancer when you're older.

Friend of mine smokes medical marijuana on occasion. She exhaled some after a drag and the wind blew it 3 feet away into my face where I inhaled the second-hand smoke.
Is that shit gonna show up on a regular or MEPS UA? Never done it in my life, didn't feel high, nothin', but made me wonder if it got in my system.

>>34569118
Are you afraid that you're going to like it too much?

They don't probe your ass, they just visually inspect it to make sure you're not prolapsed or have hemorrhoids.

If I don't wipe my ass before MEPS what will the doctor say

>>34569278
They'll ask you to pull up your (dirty) undies sooner.

>>34569278

>You're nasty, I can't accurately assess the health of your asshole, come back another time.

And then you get to sit around for the rest of the day, piss off your recruiter by telling them you're a nasty fuck, and come back another day to redo MEPS.

That's why you don't fuck with MEPS doctors.

>>34569040
This is what's wrong with the Marines. Tons of POGS pretending to be badasses while a very small portion of the actual corps does the fighting. The title means dick.

>>34569234
Lmao, naw man it's good. Just tell the staff at MEPS that and they'll give you an exception

Tomorrow, I'm going to get a call from the officer corps.
I don't doubt it.
It's going to happen.

>>34569495
To be fair, Marines DO have the least pussified POGs, if for nothing more than the fact that their branch requires them to fulfill so many roles.

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>>34569141
>>34569240
Not him.

But what if you do have haemorrhoids?
My butthole, at least feels like, the classical "balloon knot"

>>34569804
I had slight hemo too, but my ass was a bit hairy. The doc checked for like 2 sec and said alright. She didn't even bother checking that carefully lol. I guess it shouldn't be a big deal unless it's seriously protruding out of your ass or something. Had me worried shitless before MEPS.

>>34569804

Can't ship with them. If they're just a temporary thing then go get some medicine for them and fix that shit. If they're chronic (IE, you have them all the time and can't do anything about it), then they could disqualify you.

>>34569933
Gonna shove them up my ass beforehand.
They won't poke that hard will they?

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>Space Corps in 2019
>Operational by 2021 at latest
>he isn't joining the Marine Corps so that he can become a Space Marine

>>34569979
Get some Preparation H from the drugstore, works miracles when I ate too much meat and tore the fuck out of my asshole.

>>34568992
Incredibly negligible in size.

>>34570229
Space Corps will be under the Department of the Air Force, like Marines under the Navy.

They'll probably be called Spacers or Spacemen or something.

>>34570413
Doesn't matter what they'll be called

They'll be taken from AF officers, just like astronauts
The future ain't here enough that you can have people on a spaceship that can't fly a spaceship.
Every astronaut so far has been trained to fly that big fat fucker.
No marines.

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>4 years in the Corps
>get out
>2 years to finish up Bachelor's with GI bill
>earn commission as Naval officer

Is this doable?

>>34570483

The Army has an MOS for astronaut. There have only been a few Army astronauts ever, but it's definitely not Air Force exclusive.

>>34570485

This is why ROTC exists, just go to ROTC.

>>34570535
>There have only been a few Army astronauts ever
Curious.
Who?
Are they the odd Areospace Army officers?

There are two people on a space mission
People who can fly the space shit
Or the people who can learn shit from space.

Army doesn't say strong either.

>>34569234
dude, don't say shit. there's no way that will show up in a UA

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>>34569922
are you telling me there's a chance a female will be checking out my asshole?

>>34570566

All of the branches have astonaut jobs, (coast guard included) but the requirements are usually you need a STEM degree and usually they go for aviators and the like.

here are POC for all branches at NASA
https://astronauts.nasa.gov/content/mpoc.htm

>>34570849

usually an old lady, just saying

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>filling out the preliminary paperwork at the recruitment office
>Friend in military tells me to be be honest with the medical history
>Mark down that I went to ER for a migraine 4 years ago
>Recruiter doesn't seemed too bothered by it and just told me to get the paperwork for it
>Sibling in the military hears about it and puts me on blast saying that putting anything to do with a migraine on paperwork could keep me from getting in
>Now I am confuse
Should Sudoku be in the cards for me now /meg/?

>>34571316
as long as the recruiter hasn't sent the docs off to MEPS nothing is written in stone.

if you can get the documents from your doctor and it shows that you're not going to be a problem / it was a one time thing you should be fine.

If not I bet if you tell your recruiter you can't get in contact with your doctor to get documentation about that they will just tell you to re fill out the form without mentioning the migranes.

>>34571316
Recruiter wants to get you in. Say you don't have it and forget you ever put it down and redo the paper. That packet will be discarded once you're done, it won't be scanned in or anything. The recruiter will input your info to the computer, at least mine did that.

>>34571316
>>Mark down that I went to ER for a migraine 4 years ago
why why jesus Christ why
Seriously how fucking stupid are you people???

I don't understand why people have such a hard time marking everything no on the medical form in MEPS.

>>34569804
I just went through MEPS and had my hemorrhoids fixed back in the spring. They're a temporary disqualification. My recruiter told me to go get them fixed and come back. The doctor checked me and asked if I was the guy with the hemorrhoid problem. I said yes and he said everything looks pretty good now. You should get it taken care of before you go and get any and all documents related to your treatment for your medical records.

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>be korean
>always dream of removing red scum
>join intel unit and cross the dmz
>kill commies
>최고다

>>34571488
>mark no
>they find a dry skin flake on my arm


my biggest fear

>>34571891
>what is lotion
C E T A P H I L
E
T
A
P
H
I
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>>34571928
>mark no
>they see the appendectomy scars on my tummy

my second biggest fear

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I have a retractile testicle, meaning, when its cold af it hocks up above my sack into my body, when its hot it slips back down. It is a completely benign condition and has no adverse effects whatsoever.

I am disqualified from service.

My recruiter tried really hard to help me too.

However, since they allow trannies and other freaks in now, if i fly to india and pay some hack surgeon $500 to chop off my junk, go to Walmart and get an Elsa princess wig and smear lipstick all over my face. I will then be allowed to join.

What the fuck.

>>34571996
bruh just make it so its hot all of the time so when they check you they wont notice like the fuck

>>34571971
ok, you'll need to report that probably.

>>34572008
what if the scars aren't visible? do you think they'll catch me eventually? i could just be like "woah dude i had no idea maybe i was born without it or something lol"

>>34572000

it was always cold enough in the exam rooms to make it creep back up, hurt like a bitch when the fucker was squeezing and pulling it

>>34571996
I would go to the news with something like this. You have a really good point. The only way to make the government chance anything is to publicly shame them.

>>34570229
Considering what it takes to get a single individual into space, you seriously think we are going to have a battalion of space Marines in four years?

>>34572012
honestly, i think it may be easily waivered. look it up first, though. I think there's a site where a retired navy doc uploaded the "conditions that are most frequently waivered."

In what kind of scenario would a job that usually requires a secret clearance, need that person to get a TS instead?

>>34572290
Usually depending on the MOS/Rating you are going to be given some assignment afterwards that requires you to have a TS. May be working with some group like SOCOM or something, be working around highly classified material.

Reasons vary.

>tfw going to talk to Air Force Recruiter about Officer commision today

Anyone here been through Airforce OTS? How difficult was it? What about the AFOQT

>>34572858
Hope you have lots of community service!

>>34572880
I have 0 community service. Just a bachalors and a Masters degree

>>34572883
They're probably going to require some. Literally the third question they asked me. Bear in mind that I graduated with a fucking 4.0.

>>34572894
I also heard they might have a two year wait time to OTS. If that's the case when I ask today then fuck that.

>>34572907
The Air Force has notoriously ridiculous requirements for both enlistment and commissions.

>"Oh you ran a mile in 4:40? That's great, but what I really want to know is how frequently you assist the other racers."

>>34572936
>>34572907
>>34572894
>but what I really want to know is how frequently you assist the other racers
Do you guys keep wondering why everyone here says the AF is the SJW cuck branch?

>>34571408
... Because it's in my medical history and my doctor said they would check my medical history

>>34566578
That guy that patrols the tomb or whatever

>>34572907
Imho, check out the Navy. What it lacks in comfort it makes up for in prestige and a very proud lineage. And besides the military is supposed to push you out of your comfort zone.

>>34566738
He said "honorable" not "homosexual"

>>34572996
This guy is on the money.

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>>34572995
Nigger please
There is no "medical history"
There is no giant database of medicine with your info in it. Theyd have never known. And even still you should have lied because its not like you got shot you had a fucking migraine. Literally non issue. Now theyre going to think its an indicator for a bigger issue. You fucked up. All we do is tell you dumbies to keep your mouthes shut to avoid all the bs youre about to have to go through.

>>34573001
Good post

Question to the guys who have been out for a few years: if you could go back and choose a different branch/occupation, would you?

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>>34573016
Well balls.

>>34573125
Yeah, shoulda done intel or IT
t. Nuke

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>>34573016
On another note my doctor is a bro and left a note basically saying everything in my history is in the past and hasn't bothered me for years which is true

>>34573173
If I was a typical AF recruiter I'd have dumped your ass and moved on to a better candidate who knew how to keep his mouth shut. That note doesn't help you at all.

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>>34573252
this

>>34573173
nigger are you stupid? That note does more harm then good. It brings up numb wrists and hearing loss questions. Man you got a lot to learn about smoothing things over.

>>34573125
Was in the navy as an OS. Loved it, wouldn't change anything.

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>>34573361
>EVERYONE TELLS ME LYING IS THE WRONG THING TO DO
>DONT LIE
>EVERYONE TELLS ME TELLING THE TRUTH IS THE WRONG THING TO DO
FUCKING PICK ONE YOU FAGGOTS

>>34572894
Ha, nerd

>>34573385
I guarantee no one here ever told you not to lie. You should lie obviously. What kind of losers do you know who are goodie to shoes saying tell the truth???

>>34573385
>EVERYONE TELLS ME LYING IS THE WRONG THING TO DO
The only ones who have ever said that here were shills from MEPS and OPM trying to match their DQ quota.

>>34573476
It wasn't from here, it was from my buddy in the AF and from my recruiter

After I filled the PW I discovered /meg/

>>34573493
>It wasn't from here, it was from my buddy in the AF and from my recruiter
This only confirms that AF is full of blue falcons. Also, your recruiter is AF so he isn't giving you good advice. He's telling you to tell the truth because they have a sick fascination with rejecting people. Truly the oddball of the armed services. Should have gone navy and allowed a CPO to give you the good gouge.

>>34573508
How should I go about on fucking this situation

>>34573523
Unfucking rather
God damn talk to text

>>34573508
this
>>34573493
>>34573523
Nigger recruiters aren't your friend and your faggot buddy is in the faggot AF so of course hes a choir boy. Lie dude. Or grow a brain and don't join the AF and go join a real branch and stay quiet.

>>34573523
Has your recruiter submitted your paperwork to MEPS yet? If not, there's still hope. You can leave your recruiter and he'll likely rip that paperwork up. Then, you can join the navy and no one ever has to find out about your little "mishap."
If he has, then you're knee deep in shit and might as well ride this out to the end. Go back to that doc and tell him straight up you think everything he wrote was complete bullshit, you feel like 100% PERFECT with NOTHING WRONG PAST PRESENT FUTURE and ask for a second opinion from a doc who will basically write "After reviewing everything about anon, I have determined that much of what that other doc wrote was misheard and fucking 100% wrong. There's absolutely nothing fucking wrong with Anon because he is 100% perfect." Doc is not a bro. He's in your way and you fucking trample over his record and slander him as a misdiagnosing fuckup because that's what it'll take if your 2708 is sitting in a MEPS database right now.
>>34573543
Cowpens anon?

>>34571996
Is it extremely sensitive? That's pretty common. Testicles are designed to retract in cold temperature to keep the sperm warm and retract during certain physical activities to keep them from getting injured and retract during ejaculation. The exam rooms at MEPS are not cold, at least they weren't when I went through. Plus you have about 2 dozen other recruits going from station to station making the whole place moderate temperatured. Then right before the testicle exam you'll do all the flexibility tests with 2 dozen other guys in a room about the size or a classroom which will probably keep your body warm. Most if the guys are at least a little nervous raising all our body temperatures.

>>34573543
>>34573570
Nothing has been sent to MEPS yet, and it is a Navy recruiter, not AF.
Is there a way to get the info I gave my recruiter expunged? The Navy is what I want to do

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>>34573570
>Cowpens anon?
you know it

>>34573584
>Navy recruiter
Then it's probably his first fucking day on the job or he's a shithead. Fuck him. Tell him you're not interested in joining the navy anymore because you're going to a trade school or some shit and he'll likely tear that shit right up. Find another recruiter in another office or go back a few weeks later and meet with a different recruiter. Now that you know the drill, you can start anew.
>>34573590
Always giving solid advice. Keep doing God's work.

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>>34573385

the only place online I've seen say tell the 100% truth is r/army. I think they say that because comments are linked to an account and can be traced back to them

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Why is the Army song so fucking stupid?

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>>34573476
>mfw I lost count of the number of lies I made on my application
>could get DQ'd for no less than a half dozen different things that exist in various medical and court records across the country
The military's standards for OCS are so absurd. The only people I know that can meet every qualification without exception are Mormons.

>>34573891
Because the Army is stupid.

Jack of all trades and masters of none.

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LOL'ing at the US """""military"""".

How exactly do you fags plan on defeating Russians with this shit?

>>34574111
>never smoked mad le doobies
>never got arrested
>disclosed bullshit traffic tickets that don't matter

So not being a total shitpile is equivalent of being a Mormon? Moral standards seriously are not that difficult. It is stuff you should come to expect of an average officer considering they are going to be in charge of people's lives.

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A few weeks ago I went to a Marine Corps recruiter just to see what the Corps would be able to offer. We spoke about my goals, plans for the future, what I wanted to do while in the service, and things of that nature. Before I left, he had me choose 3 things that I felt were most important out of a list of 12 or so, and to write down what I thought each meant.

Would anyone be able to tell me if the Marine Corps genuinely offers these opportunities? I'm trying to plan long-term, and to use the military as a stepping stone for when I eventually move on to other things.

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>>34574334
We will pay for xem to have a body xey feel comfortable in.

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>>34573607
He is, I went in on his second week working there
FML

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>>34574334
>roasties are scared away from military service
>we have an all male military again
sounds like it's going according to plan.

>>34574544
We pretty much have an all-male military to begin with. Women are like, what, 6% of the overall military? How many of those actually DO work and don't skate by on having looks and a vagina?

Any woman who willingly gets pregnant to avoid deployment should be court martialed desu.

>>34574509
The Marine Corps is, generally speaking, the branch with the least opportunity. It exists only for people who think it's worth the bragging rights.

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>>34574544
>Women are like, what, 6% of the overall military?
Still too much.
>How many of those actually DO work and don't skate by on having looks and a vagina?
I've only met one that doesn't, and I'm willing to bet she lied about having sever autism.
>Any woman who willingly gets pregnant to avoid deployment should be court martialed desu.
Agreed 100%.

Think about it this way:
>be woman
>see shit about men being in the showers with me
>pussy out of military enlistment because i was only in it for the gibs in the first place and being leered at by horny men isn't worth it
every woman that's scared away from the military due to this is a victory. the trannies can be bullied into an early discharge once the roasties are gone.

>>34574421
>small mistakes made in your teens need to follow you for the rest of your life
You do realize there's such thing as learning from mistakes right? You need life experiences and the ability to offer personal insight if you want to lead people.

Maybe you could learn from this conversation and not have to spend the rest of your life sounding like a prude little bitch.

>>34574421
>Smoke marijuana = shitpile
How does it feel to be indoctrinated by 1930's racist propaganda?

>>34574613
prude little bitch here. I honestly don't care if people have smoked pot or gotten a dwi. So long as they're past that and don't betray the country or leak info or blue falcon their men, along with doing a good job at their assignment, I'm perfectly fine with them getting into the military, even if they had to lie to do so. Literally a non-issue. Audie fucking Murphy lied to get into the military. The whole "you have to be an angel" bullshit is just bullshit.

>>34574595
>I've only met one that doesn't, and I'm willing to bet she lied about having sever autism.

One of the best techs I ever worked with was a woman, and I'm almost positive this was the case with her.

What is it about the 'tism that makes great technical workers?

>>34574667
Truthfully, it's because they're able to visualize problems extremely well. People who are autistic (at least, those are high-functioning autists) are often extremely proficient at formulating complex problems using only their head. I wouldn't be surprised if it was discovered that Nikola Tesla had Aspergers.

>>34574664
It's because the military can afford to be selective right now, and the easiest way to filter people is through quantitative metrics like criminal record or drug use.
When the branches need to shed people, normally inconsequential shit like PT failures becomes career ending.

The ideal way to enlist/commission people would be through personal interviews where an agent/recruiter judges your character (think job interview), but the manpower requirements of such a program would be enormous.

>>34574613
>>34574627
>"I was a kid! I learned from my mistakes!"
>Proceed to tell "dozens of lies" on Federal paperwork to get job

Fair enough, let me walk back here. I wasn't necessarily calling you a shitpile for making "mistakes". Even though, mind you, there are other candidates - honest ones - who are penalized for telling the truth since you have an edge on them by lying. I was calling you a shitpile for lying, and now acting sanctimonious and entitled to a spot at OCS, even though they say you aren't qualified (depending on the nature of the offense).

Again, there are other people who were honest, and maybe, probably, lost the spot at OCS to you. Congratulations, but yeah fuck you. Wouldn't want you as my CO.

>>34574667
The best women I've interacted with in general were super-autists (they also look like they're half-downers) who are often hated and shunned by other women. They're less than 1% of the population, though. And in the navy they're prone to becoming SWO(N).
>>34574706
>The ideal way to enlist/commission people would be through personal interviews where an agent/recruiter judges your character (think job interview), but the manpower requirements of such a program would be enormous.
They have something similar to this for NUPOC, but the downside is
>70% chance of sub duty

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>>34574726
spotted the shill. Everyone lurking /meg/, this is the turd in the punchbowl, accusing everyone who lies about inconsequential shit a scumbag. He's probably a MEPS or OPM employee short on his quota of DQ's. IGNORE THE FUCK OUT OF THIS GUY! HE IS THE ONLY ONE ACTIVELY PUSHING PEOPLE TO ADMIT STUPID SHIT! DON'T FALL FOR THIS!

>>34574726
You don't know anything loser. Literally everyone lies to get ahead. Every president lied at some point.
Trump=tax ivasion
Obama=Weed smoker
Bush=Cocaine and draft dodger
Clinton=Cocaine and affairs also draft dodger
Do I need to continue?
The world isn't black and white you puss.

>>34574775
Yeah, can't refute when I said because you know it's true so you break out the /pol/ memes.

>>34574795
>oy vey, it's not nice to lie goyim!
>tell the truth, goyim!
>it's dishonest, goyim!
>oy vey, i enjoy the extra shekels when i meet my quota for DQ's
Even through the lens of /pol/ memes, it's easy to tell what's going on here, you fucking dickmunch. Fuck off. We give the best advice, and if you've smoked pot ONCE and there's no record, you should definitely DENY DENY DENY.
Your moralfagging is as paperthin as a cheap 80's PSA. I know for a fact you don't believe the bullshit you're typing right now (who would believe such obvious BS?). Keep posting, though. I'll call you out on your bullshit every time.

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>>34574837
>Keep posting, though. I'll call you out on your bullshit every time


What bullshit? Saying that falsifying federal paperwork in a competitive environment is both shitty and illegal? Yeah, I guess I must be full of shit then.

redpill me on the marines
I'm 22, no job/education, /fit/ as fuck and I don't want to waste tons of money on college
I see more upsides than downsides

>>34574726
Take risks, get rewarded. If you can't deal with this aspect of life then you either need to content yourself with being a loser or find a shortcut out.

>>34574860
That's the moral equivalent of driving 66 MPH in a 65 MPH zone. Fuck off.

>>34574795
>Yeah, can't refute when I said because you know it's true so you break out the /pol/ memes
refute what I said here faggot >>34574785
everyone lies to get ahead.

>>34574870
actually read the thread, tis been talked about 20 damn times already

>>34574877
>>34574871
Anybody here applying for OCS who does NOT need a moral waiver - without lying - look at these people. They are snakes in the grass and are only screwing you. They deserve to be shunned.

>>34574877
This would only work if the guy driving 66 MPH screwed the guy doing 65 MPH out of a job. This is why you guys can't see the problem.

>>34574901
Any OCS applicant period. Look at this person. He's trying to get ahead by screwing you into admitting bullshit that need not be admitted. Most of your leadership lied about stupid shit they never got caught for. It literally does not matter. The true snake in the grass right here.
>>34574911
>screwed the guy doing 65 MPH out of a job
No one gets screwed out of a job. "Moral waiver" is a retard test. You pass by not admitting to dumb bullshit if they can't pin it on you. Saying "no" doesn't screw people out of a job. You posting on here and telling people who don't need to admit that they should admit screws them out of a job. The guy who lied about pot use but has a 75 OAR is far more qualified than the non-drug user who has a 60. Deal with it.

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>>34574937
>No one gets screwed out of a job


Person A

>Qualified, smoked weed, disclosed it


Person B

>Otherwise qualified, smoked weed, lied about it

OCS boards meet with limited allocated slots, they have the slot to person B who didn't need a moral waiver. Maybe Person A couldn't even get it approved.


This is why you guys are shitty people. Not because you smoked a doobie. But because you are acting like "well, I learned from my mistakes, so that makes me a better leader" instead of the truth, which is "I haven't really learned anything but really want a job so fuck it"

I mean, more power to you, but just admit you are shit people

>>34574981
smoking a doobie isn't a mistake. explain why its a mistake.

How common is steroid use in the military

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>>34574981
I refuse to believe that there are people stupid enough to admit to smoking a joint.

Anyone who's actually admitted to drug use doesn't even deserve to waste oxygen, much less receive a commission.

>>34574981
>disclosing pot use makes you morally superior
you're a fucking joke. this is like going to /biz/, and shilling for an obviously shitty stock that you're short selling. fucking pathetic. Person A isn't morally superior, just intellectually inferior.

>>34575012
>Anyone who's actually admitted to drug use doesn't even deserve to waste oxygen, much less receive a commission.


Again, more of the problem. You guys view the honest guy as unqualified for being honest and act like you have it all figured out. When in reality, the honest guy is the one the military really wanted.

>>34575013
>disclosing pot use makes you morally superior

Not what I said you fucking retard. It makes you much more likely to be selected if you don't need a moral waiver. Holy shit a lot of retards in /meg/ today

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>>34575025
>When in reality, the honest guy is the one the military really wanted.

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>>34575025
>You guys view the honest guy as unqualified for being honest and act like you have it all figured out
This is correct though. Life requires little white lies at times. Like for example when you decide to not be a Blue Falcon and screw your buddies over.

>When in reality, the honest guy is the one the military really wanted
If you knew anything about the military youd know this isn't true.
The #1 rule in the military is to handle shit at the lowest level possible. Aka make it disappear. You need to know when to lie and down play shit so your Senior enlisted and officers don't have to worry about it.

Game blouses

>>34575031
Except that is exactly what you're saying:
>>34574981
>This is why you guys are shitty people. Not because you smoked a doobie. But because you are acting like "well, I learned from my mistakes, so that makes me a better leader" instead of the truth, which is "I haven't really learned anything but really want a job so fuck it"
>I mean, more power to you, but just admit you are shit people

>>34575048
Oh, and by the way,
t. never smoked pot in my life

>>34575047
>>34575051
That guys is one of 4 possibilities:
1. underage b& who watched too much band of brothers and has no idea about real life
2. an OCS applicant trying to get ahead by convincing others to get more waivers than necessary
3. a MEPS doctor short on his quota of DQ's
4. a OPM spook short on his quota of DQ's

t. never smoked pot in my life

>>34572996
What MOS is that?

>>34575164
The honor guard for the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier? I'm pretty sure you get voluntold for that.

>>34574882
>actually read the thread, tis been talked about 20 damn times already
so the marines aka MUHrines is actually just a meme?
Why does propaganda give them so much prestige

>>34575164
3rd Infantry Regiment. Sentinels who guard TOTUS live in a barracks beneath the monument, and upon completing their service, they're awarded a pin which signifies what they've done.

You are never allowed to drink again, lest you forfeit the pin.

>>34575206
>Why does propaganda give them so much prestige
>propaganda
Exactly

>>34575238
I'm questioning the motivation behind it

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How do people in the Army actually feel about the Marines?

MEPS tomorrow, any last minute handy advice? What are the odds they'll find some random shit to DQ or delay me with, just because?
t. guy in perfect health

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>>34575113
>3 people have pointedly declared they've never smoked pot ITT
If I were an OPM shill I'd be tracing these IPs and typing up my FISA requests.

Start running anons.

>>34575328
>IP traced to USA
>fisa invalid
oops.

>>34575249
To get people to join..?

>>34575249
It's a poor af niggershit branch with no real opportunities, unnecessarily high PT standards, and a shit quality of life.

Convincing people they are the Spartans from 300 is literally the only way they get anybody in

>>34575461
>convincing people they are Spartans from 300 is literally the only way they get anybody in

Holy shit, my recruiting station has fucking Spartans framed up on the wall. It's so laughable and cringey. God damn why

>>34575461
whats the patrician's choice that doesnt include airforce/navy

>>34575479
My recruiting station has a Russian tourism book on prominent display atop the mantle, and I'm really not sure what to make of it.

>>34575539
18X in the Army

Also the Coast Guard, they are the only branch that ACTUALLY protects American Soil

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>>34575604
>Also the Coast Guard, they are the only branch that ACTUALLY protects American Soil

>>34575604

I didn't join the military to protect American soil. Armed civilians can do that fairly easily. Edgy teens always think they're geniuses for pointing out that the military isn't standing on a wall against barbarian hordes.

We know, we just don't give a fuck. I joined the military to perpetuate US hegemony and prop up our consumer economy. The safety and security of the US is not in question, but the voters/taxpayers want cheap gas and a stable economic environment, so that's what I will help provide.

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>>34575604
>Also the Coast Guard, they are the only branch that ACTUALLY protects American Soil
>your swim test is wading through knee-deep water

This seems like the only thread to post this in and I don't feel like this warrants making its own thread, so here we go.

I'm about to graduate college with a (useless, I know. I got jewed. Long story.) bachelors in Criminal Justice. I'm looking to get into law enforcement of any kind, local, state,or federal.

I know this is MEG, but what would be some advice to get into a good law enforcement career ? I've looked into the Coast Guard and getting into Maritime Policing, but I just don't know anymore. I thought about trying to be an MP but from what I have heard, that is the worst thing on the planet to do as far as the military goes.

Guys...I just want to shoot bad guys, and get some training so I can operate operationally.

>>34575880
Have you tried applying for an internship with the fbi?

>>34575905
I've thought about it, yes. My issue is...I need money if I'm going to go and start working. Do their internships pay? I actually didn't see anything about that.

The reason is, I'm young but have a family. If I'm going to go away to train/work...there needs to be some decent money involved.

>>34575880
Army 31D pilot program for new recruits. Google it.

>>34575880
Capitol Police seem fairly easy to get accepted into and they have some decent career fields. I've been around a lot of the bodyguards, and their job is basically to travel the country and babysit some of the most powerful people in the world.

The only downside IIRC is you have to spend your first year doing stationary security (ie door watching).

>>34575930
Ok so if i'm reading that right, as long as I have a degree, I can apply for CID as if it was a regular job instead of going through the normal Army to CID route?

Holy shit if so, this job sounds pretty fucking amazing. I had no idea it existed.

>>34575923
I believe most internships of this sort are paid. You should apply anyway. The worst case scenario is you get selected and you have to do some part time along with your wife/gf. The best case is you get selected and you have a small stipend.

>>34575982
>Capitol Police
>Move my kids to the shithole that is D.C. or the surrounding area for several years.

Ehhhh...

>>34575996
Yes, CJ degree is good but you need at least a 3.0

I have a 3.2 with a CJ degree and I got accepted officially on the 14th and I sign on the 19th. I have a master's with a 3.6 as well, but otherwise wasn't that competitive. You need to be squeaky clean otherwise.

>>34576012
I'll look into it. Thanks!

>>34575996
>>34575996
>>34576020
Wait, I'm sorry,

>I can apply for CID as if it was a regular job instead of going through the normal Army to CID route?


yes and no. You are an enlisted Agent still, but you just go straight to CID school from MP school. It isn't the civilian CID gig, but you can get into that later obviously. 5 year contract.

>>34576020
I think I can have a 3.0 by the time I graduate. It was 2.8 or something last I checked. I have sort of slacked off in college as far as caring about my GPA, unfortunately.

>>34576029
Ok my main question is, do I have to go to Army Basic or do I go straight to learning CID\?

I don't mind being enlisted and being counted as active duty. That's my confusion here though. Bootcamp or Bootcamp for CID?

>>34576049
You do 31B OSUT, which is basic plus the MP school in one go. It's like 17 weeks I think, I've heard 20 total with in and out processing so I'm not sure.

From there, you intern with a CID unit while waiting for CIDSAC to start, but the wait isn't that long. CIDSAC is 5 months.

After that you are a CID agent. Wear civis, segregated from the Army mostly, and get BAH and BAS as a single soldier which is nice.

>Army bending over to the transgenders
>Air Force don't have spines

Are Navy and Marine Corps the only two branches left for real men?

>>34576068
Alright. Sounds neat. I know i'll have to really sell it to my wife, but she's slowly coming around.

I know I have a ton of choices here, but this honestly sounds pretty awesome.

>>34576102
Yup, it's handled through a traditional Army recruiter but be warned most aren't aware of the program. Mine tried telling me it didn't exist and I had to force him to research it. But once you get in there isn't a better way to get into federal law enforcement from the street with some college.

>>34576114
Well, shit. Ok.

And my last question is, is there a way to take an ASVAB or ASVAB-like test online for free?

>>34576127
google it nigga. so many at the tips of your fingers.

>>34566383
You can get a TS if you go to 4chan?

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>>34576201
>implying they look at your internet history for TS
Th- they don't right?

>>34576277
Here come the black helicopters

>>34575206
no dipshit, if you actually want to join the military to get the chance to shoot people and kick in doors you better as fuck join USMC. If otoh you want anything besides/beyond that out of the military pls don't join them.

>>34576277
my body is ready

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>>34576347
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What pizza is each branch?

>Army: Little Caesar's
>Marines: Pizza Hut
>Air Force: Papa John's
>Navy: Dominoes

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>>34575316
Cmon, yall

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>>34576307
>>34576347
But seriously.. do they? Asking for a friend that went to a nudey website once.

>>34575316
Drink lots of water so you're able to pee for the drug test.

>>34576376
No the marines are dominoes for sure.
Papa Johns is best pizza of the choices so its navy over AF.

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I'm going to meps in two days for the airforce. I'm taking the DLAB. I have no idea what I'm doing, and I want to enjoy the next 4 years. What jobs should I go for, how can I maximize profit, where is a good place to be stationed not in us south. What do I need to tell them? I'm really worried

>>34576376
Marines: melted Kraft single on a piece of Wonderbread
Army: Digiornos
AF: California Pizza Kitchen
Navy: Papa Murphy's (patrician's choice)

>>34576376
>Marines: Pizza Hut

I always knew that Marines were the best branch.

>>34575316
Forget anything they'll catch on a physical?
I legit forgot I was flatfooted and saw a podiatrist about it like twice, but of course they thought I was sketch as fuck simply for that.

>>34576507
Literally every goddamn time I try to post on Meg to ask for help I get fucking ignored. I've been helped a total of one times. Fucking retards

Newfag here im a freshman im college and ive been thinking about doing SMP and rotc im stuck on deciding an MOS. Im leaning more towards 68w does anyone here have experience as a combat medic?? Any advice in general either about 68w or just choosing an mos.

>>34576698

It doesn't really matter for SMP. Either pick something with a TS so you can get a clearance knocked out, or pick whatever has the shortest training so you can get the fuck back to school.

You're never going to do your job in SMP anyways. It's sort of retarded to even send you to AIT.

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>>34575025