/brg/ Battle Rifle General

>>33898938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYoHWFoE9Q4

>>33898938
does anyone here have a galil in 308? i think thats a battle rifle ive never seen on /k/. not a new iwi one either

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>>33898956
I love that video.

>>33898966
Someone in either /akg/ or a previous /brg/ did. I have a few of the pics they posted.

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>>33898987

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>>33898997

>>33898987
thanks for posting them, i must have missed it. i thought it was weird ive never seen a 308 glalil here, i mean we pretty much have everything else.

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I need a real fuckin cheap T2

>>33898938
I want a G3 type rifle.

I'm looking at the PTR-91. From what I've seen posted before it is the best option. But Karl does have a Century, and I can't help but at least consider the wisdom of the wehrboo.

Do help.

>>33899580
Do you really wanna take battle rifle advice from a wehraboo who can't do simple operations with an FAL?

PTR-91 is the WASR of G3, just get that

>>33899604
Ok. What else is out there and what should I know?

>what is the cheapest PTR I can get
>what is the best PTR I can get
>What issues will I encounter

>>33899622
All of them are fine
http://ptr91.com/products/
Just pick whichever model seems to be what you want the most, there's not really a "best"

>>33899642
Thanks, mate.

>>33899642
What is the difference between the GI and the GI R?

>>33900101
top rail

>>33900108
Thanks, didn't quite see that from the pic.

Would it be a better option to put the rail on myself or buy the R model?

>>33900131
Buy the R if you want an optic

>>33899580
Get the PTR.

>>33900131
Like the other guy said, if you want to mount an optic, then go ahead and get the rail. There are several good detatchable rails for regular G3s but the pre-welded will be the best.

>>33898938
Why don't most battle rifles have chome lined barrels?

Also, do I want FAL or PTR-91 for my first BR?

Does anyone know if James River Armory's BM-59 are cast or forged? Classic has them for 1200 so the price is screaming cast to me but I dont know

>>33900954
S L A P

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>>33900954
There is only one correct choice

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>>33900954
G3s couldn't have chrome lined barrels due to the fluted chambers.

Either one of those are great choices. See if you can finger fuck or shoot them both to see what you like better. I prefer the G3 but I'll build my FAL kit someday.

>>33900131
Get the railed model. I have the PTR-GI and had to shell way more money than I wanted to for a good rail. I have buyers regret over not having a rail but I love everything else about the rifle.

It may not be the most ergonomic in the world but its a range toy so who cares? It breaks clay pigeons out to 300yds which is about the most I'll ever ask of it.

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>>33900131
If you plan on getting another modern BR I'd say don't get the rail because it kills the aesthetics. I bought one and wish I would've gotten the one without the rail

>>33901840
Put an optic on it and it will look better

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>>33901177
>>33901840
I might as well have got a yes, no, maybe.

I kind of prefer irons and the aesthetic, but I feel like I'd be wasting the potential .308 has for range without an optic.

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>>33898938
>/brg/ Battle Rifle General

Guys I need help. My uncle's got a prob with his AR10B, the fucking handguards have started melting due to age (apparently).

We're not sure about the availability of replacements.

I've built an AR15 myself, so I am somewhat familiar with this thing. Should I tell him to swap the handguards (and potentially the barrel nut) for something new, or should we try to get different repro ones and shield them with heat tape?

>>33901958
If you need them brown, it'll be harder to find. Aftermarket FF handguards are easy

>>33901928
If you're looking for a long range bench gun then get a bolt action or AR10.

Can I order guns straight from gun plumber?

>>33902276
Send him money, he sends a gun.
Yes.

Shoot him an email, tell him what you want.

>>33901958
I think Nodak Spud still has some retro handguards for sale.

would this with a carry handle & fixed front sight be /brg/ approved?

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>>33903804

>>33903820
>DPMS pattern
>Stainless barrel

Eh, if it's .308, sure why not

How do I make Rhodie paint?

>>33905182
http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/notes/notes-fal-tut-rhodpat/notes-fal-tut-rhodpat.html

At least go through some trouble to make your FAL look somewhat authentic, not just a stock SA58 with bipod still attached.

What is the ideal scope for .308 battle rifles?

>>33899492
>>33901026
Dude nice rifle, but that stock is really, really fucking ugly. What was wrong with the basic or para stock?

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>>33905908
The LMT is comfy as a motherfucker

>>33905547
seconding this question

is there a good alternative out there to Acog for .308?

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A 91, in all its Dutcheland glory.

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>>33898938
Powerful than 308

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIQoNCal4VM

>>33898956

>didn't know it was a show
>watch the first episode
>this guy enjoys gardening and owns two Dachshunds

>>33906318
K16i, z8i, nxs 2.5-10, etc.
ACOG isnt really going to be the thing for .308 unless your talking about one of those giant 6x ones

>>33906899
Holy shit. I didn't realize that either. This is fucking great.

>>33906898
The Fudd of battle rifles?

>>33899580
Karl is a retard.

>>33898938
Hey, /brg/.
What cases do you use for your 20 inch battle rifles, preferably soft? I like my drago which I use for my AR, but its too short for my PTR-91.

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>>33907561
Is there anything good in the ACOG ~$1300 price range?

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Can I play?

>>33908467
What ACOG? Would you recommend it for .308? Why or why not?

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>>33908467
>Fixed magnification

Your toys are boring, but you can play.

>>33908537
I've got the TA11H. I've got a .223 BDC on mine, because I got it for cheap and have heard of a few others using the .223 BDC successfully out of the SCAR17's 16.25" barrel.

I don't know anybody not happy with their TA11s on their SCARs, whether they have the .308 or .223 BDC. I'd recommend it.

That being said, I'll likely trade this for one with a .308 BDC, just because I'd feel more comfortable with it. I feel weird with a .223 BDC, but beyond me just feeling weird, it has worked spectacularly.

I'd recommend it.

What are you using it on?

>>33908397
Karl is /k/ incarnate.
Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

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>>33908573
FAL

One of the neat things with FAL is DSA makes a special rail so the hole in the base of the ACOG lines up with the irons.

They also have nice reticles options and no batteries required, but they are overpriced. I always wanted one though.

>>33908666
It's all perspective.

I thought things like Trijicons and Geissele triggers were overpriced for a long time. It took me taking a massive dive and getting a SCAR (for 2700, relatively cheap as far as SCAR17s go) to understand that I may be buying something expensive, but I won't have to buy it again.

The FAL may be a bit more forgiving on a lower end optic. The SCAR is notorious for beating the shit out of cheaper optics.

>>33908956
Do you have a source for the SCAR beating up optics? I know a guy who uses a Strike Eagle on his 17 and has had zero issues for thousands of rounds. I'm not surprised considering how soft shooting it is. This is the only place where I see people talk about it.

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>>33908956
>I thought things like Trijicons and Geissele triggers were overpriced
I can't comment on Geissele, but ACOGs are objectively overpriced. There are better options as far as glass quality, variable power, etc., but it depends on if you want something that has been proven through military usage.

>>33909323
M8
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=414476

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>>33909339
R A R E

>>33909339
Sold in 18 minutes, damn.

Are brens on topic? Has anyone built one from a kit? If so how difficult are they.

>>33909414
Wait till I defile it with a casv, .358 Winchester barrel, acog, and ACR stock

>>33910906
>short gas
SBR when tho

>>33910932
When I get it, plus like a six month wait.

>>33911029
>When I get it
The receiver or the done rifle?

>>33911046
I just have the barrel and stock adapter now. But when the receiver gets here, I'll file for the stamp. Got about $12k coming in around the end of the month to finish the build.

>>33911113
Damn, nice. I'm not sure if you want one or the other or both but I think I said before gunthings still has 75 dollar para lowers. He's also got a bunch of surplus fixed stock too. They're even easier than AR lowers. Lot of surplus parts though so make sure you have a file on hand. The locking plate was the one that gave me the most trouble with fitting

>>33911181
I'm going to check it out. But between this upper and lime the $1000 worth of gun shit UPS is dropping off today at my house, the toy budget is tapped out for a little bit. But $75 is pretty damn cheap.

Steel or aluminum?

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>>33911219
Aluminum, they're supposed to be a few ounces lighter than the steel ones but to be honest I don't even notice the weight shooting mine cause it balances out so well. I've got a thread on hiduminium on FAL Files where someone posted the weight comparison between surplus and DSA and it didn't impress me too much

Brad's are DSA blems though with cosmetic stuff, so if that bothers you it might be worth getting something else. I can't stand the finish DSA uses on anything desu

>>33911245
I'll be kryloning or cerakote anything after it's all said and done

>>33911278
>cerakote
bleh

You plan on cerakoting the CASV and furniture too or just the receivers? I know it's not park but whatever color they do use on the CASV matches park incredibly well. Other than the DSA top it's all pretty uniform considering

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Rolled the dice on a couple boxes of tula 308 last weekend. First round of the second box, case rupture blew my mag apart, now I have to take it in to get what's left of the case extracted since the bottom of it is gone. Lesson learned, fuck Tula

>>33911329
Not a fan of bare parkerizing.

What case do you guys use for full size battle rifles?
Preferably tall enough so I can keep my optic mounted.

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>>33911462
Currently my CMP garand case but get a Drago 42. Drago is literally top tier for soft cases

>>33911395
rip

Guess you'll just have to get mostly metal furniture unless you can tolerate the look of the plastic next to cerakote, most of the DSA stuff seems to be shiny rather than a matte black

>>33911536
I have a drago for my AR but it was too short for my PTR, I'll look into the 42 to make sure its long enough.

>>33911574
IIRC the height on the 42 is the same it's just 6 inches longer. I plan on picking one up since my 36 got destroyed

>>33911593
How did you manage to destroy yours?

>>33911600
Car crash, it got a bit tore up but honestly still woulda been perfectly serviceable

Only reason I gave it up was cause insurance refunded me the cost to get a new one. Completely swayed me on their soft bags though, I've got no plans to buy soft cases from anyone else now after seeing how well theirs held up. Even my mags, optic, and light were fine

>>33911628
Nice, makes me feel glad I bought one for my AR.
I'm conflicted about getting a double case but I'm not sure since I already have one single case.

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>>33911642
I had a double, get the double. Even if you only put one gun in it for now, just get the double. Lots of extra room for other gun related things which is really convenient in the one bag. I used to carry my SLR, all my 30 round mags+a 45, my PSO, and still coulda fit my FAL if the case was about an inch and a half longer

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>>33911462
Pic related

>>33911536
Plastic is fine, or I'll get it cerakoted

>>33911736
Does the scar actually do anything better? or is it a waste of money vs an ar-10 for your average joe?

>>33912172

>Does the scar actually do anything better?

It's not a garage build, so yeah.

>>33912172
It ticks off some boxes that I personally prefer over AR platforms, but I think it's too expensive for my poorfag ass. Unless my coworker can set up that crate buy he's been talking about.

>>33912172
Recoil is noticeably lighter with the same brake even though the LMT is heavier.

Folding stocks are nice

It's got a lot more sex appeal.

Both are solid buys.

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>>33912371
I think I need to actually shoot a Scar one day to see how light recoil really is. Yesterday reminded me how soft my FAL really is with a good gas setting and 7.62 surp
>mobile pic so i can save it to desktop

Whats your opinion on this companies "modern hunter"?

https://albertatacticalrifle.com/modern-hunter

Its rediculously expensive, but in canada it has a lot going for it. Its non restricted, accurate as hell according to them, and in .308 it could actually be used for hunting.

I really dont want to spend that much on a gun, so is there another rifle that meets those requirements that i just havent found yet?

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Thoughts?

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My LGS is selling SOCOM 16 CQBs for $1,656.

I've been going back and forth between this, building an AR-10, and a PTR.

Should I go for it? This will mainly be shot at the range but may occasionally be used for pest control (hogs). Unlikely to ever be used for "proper" hunting, like deer.

>>33913433
The SOCOMs suck. Get the AR or PTR.

>>33913453
hurr m14 sucks just get a high quality ebt ptr

>>33912441
Shut up, Giddy

>>33913462
No I said the SOCOMs suck, not the M14 as a whole. That being said, I'd still get the AR or PTR over a normal M14.

>>33913462
>.00001 second dwell time to cycle .308 in a garand action
lol

>>33913468
wdhmbt

>>33913471
it's like the same argument gets made over and over again so i know what you're going to say before you say it

sad

>>33913480
Are you going to say that my next line is that the shorted gas system on the SOCOMs is notoriously fucky? That was my reasoning for advising against it.

I've got nothing against the M14, I just like the others better.

>>33909323
this would be sick with a color matched stock from cav manufacturing

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>>33912441
I wasn't really wowed by it when I shot one. Itwas definitely light recoiling but had a few malfunctions. It short stroked a few times so I'm guessing the gas system was just on the wrong setting or something.

>>33913433
>buying Springfield
Get something else.

>>33913494
Springfield, LRB, and McMillan have all made "SOCOM" length rifles. Plenty of Rockola receivers have also been aftermarket fit with a short barrel and gas system

they're notoriously popular

>>33913579
>it's popular so it's good

>>33913596
>countless SOCOM owners vs anon

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>33913642
Lots of people buy overpriced rifles at Cabelas

Lots of people carry single stack pistols

Lots of people panic bought .22 after sandy vagina and are now trying to sell it

Gun owners make bad decisions like every other buying group

>>33913694
Just look at the reviews NCStar gets on amazon.
Positive reviews mean nothing

>>33913694
>carrying single stack pistols is bad
>preferring to handle the gun before deciding on purchasing it

the ammo hoarding is inexcusable, but you need to search your soul and ask yourself, "Am I a giant shitposting faggot?" and I think you will find the answer deep within your heart

>>33913758
My buddies uncle bought almost 100,000 primers after sandy vag.

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Just got this today for 850 from my lgs and I can't wait to try it out.

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>>33915194
Nice cop

>>33915215

Just trying to keep people from seeing my toes.

>>33915238
Cop not crop

>>33915261
Turn the trip off for dank shitposting?

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>>33915194
Looks fucking great man. I'm jealous.

>>33913758
Not him, but how could you ever justify carrying a single stack.
Double stack was objectively a step up, it takes up very little more room.

Correct me if I'm wrong though, I'm all ears.

>>33915290
G43 for summer carry
G19 for when I'm wearing thicker clothes

>>33915283
wot

>>33915307
Clearly I expect you to know more about what's best to carry for you than I do, but why not just carry a double stack? Is it really that much more bulky?

>>33901011
Anyone?

>>33915341
Depends what I'm doing.
Sometimes a double stack is too much. Though I do always carry extra mags. Even the G43 get two nine round backup mags

>>33915382
Have you tried asking them?

>>33915382
Considering it's classic, my bet is on cast.

>>33913758
>>carrying single stack pistols is bad

Yup, it is.

>muh summer

Wear a baggy shirt.

Gee, I had to scratch my head straight through to my skull really thinking hard about how to solve that one.

>>preferring to handle the gun before deciding on purchasing it

>not going to a normal gun store where prices are at the market rate

are you retarded?

>>33915544
I don't feel the need to carry all the time, or go loaded for bear. I'm a casual carryer. I let my wardrobe dictate what I carry.

>>33913423
50 round drum of real fucking nato? Absolute madman

>>33915194
Lucky sonofabitch, post lewds. Give us the deets man. Izzies are my fetish.

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Has anybody tried taking 30-06 M2 AP rounds and reloading them into .308/7.62?

>>33913433
The only good M14 clones are from Fulton or LRB

>>33916059
That's illegal, baka.

>>33916165
how is that illegal?

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>>33916165
It's only illegal for commercial manufacture, IIRC.

>>33916785
Pulling and reloading the bullets counts as manufacture. But no one is going to get you on it unless they get you on something else first.

This just came up:
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=414517

>>33919561
$720... I will take my chances with cast

>>33915608
that was way too much typing and way too much effort when you could have just said "i'm a fucking faggot," we'd have got the same idea

>>33920213
"Abide by my thinking or you are a fucking faggot"... wow. You seem like a great guy. What happens when people say something you disagree about, do you continue to sperg on them?

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>>33920213
Your sure to win with such devastating arguments!

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>>33919561
Your doing yeoman's work

>>33920644
I'm actually not sure what you mean by this.

>>33920658
Means good work man

>>33920618
Holy fuck I hope that picture is true

Hey Wirty, can you post your AR10 pistol with the orange muzzle break? My friend is looking for inspiration for his next build and I want to send it to him

>>33923108
Yes. Deuterostomates like humans form their asshole first.

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>>33898938
Soooooo...some time ago you all may remember some stupid fucker who set out to build an FAL with a reciever wrench made from a mower blade.

What If i told you all that he ended up using a pipe wrench and vice?

And then subsequently succeeded at unfucking his reciever?

And then shot said FAL today, even though he didn't have a gas tube, and it worked perfectly fine except for having to cycle it manually because lolnogastube?

Would you not all agree that arcticfox, dogs, oilcan, and a few dedicated anons would be BTFO?

>>33925666
Begone Satan
You have b nobody tfo

>>33925744
I couldn't get the fucking gas block off and had to improvise.

I still intend to use that fucking wrench if it kills me.
I may just pull the barrel off and the gas block off and reinstall it with the Mowerblade just to spite people.

>>33898938
>Urge to paint weapons nutria brown intensifies

>>33925781
Gas blocks are notoriously hard to pull

>>33925795
Huh.
Maybe I'll just add a cut to the wrench instead.

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Bumping with WIP

>>33925929
You got a Rhodie kit to go with it?

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>>33906898
NOT A BR

>>33913433
>Even considering buying from springfield after the scandal broke.
Your money will go to democrat politicians

>>33927699
I'm not a line item voter

>>33899604
>PTR-91 is the WASR of G3
wait, so other than HK itself, what would be above PTR in regards to that pattern?

>>33911736
Is magpul ever going to release the UBR 2.0?

>>33927941
>I will vote the 2A away if it means more social programs

>>33926089
No, just an imbel kit be from gunplumber.

Do have the long South African stock and grenade sight. So the only real difference are serial numbers and condition. The rhodie kits are always beat up.

>>33928020
Supposed to, but I've got a few gen 1s, and I'm not sure how the gen 2 would benefit me, but I dont think it's going to be worse.

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>>33927941>
>I'm not a line item voter
>line item
>2A
That''s like saying you are not dedicated to breathing. Get your priorities straightened out, anon.

>>33928895
I'm just also concerned about other things, and I don't think the liberals are coming for our guns. Especially after 1994.

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>>33928988
>they're not coming for our guns
Hitler, no...

best SUIT alternative?

>>33929913
Hensoldt

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>tfw you open facebook on your phone and forget you are subscribed to south african memes

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Why does my HK cheek riser have little studs that mess with aesthetics

>>33934920
A. There is a lot more than the nub fucking with the aesthetics
B. Why don't you remove the nub

>>33928158
Hold up a sec, SA/Rhodie stocks are longer than regular ones?

Which version of the ptr should i get? I can't decide weather to get the GI R or the FR. https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/308-50-cal-rifles/ptr-91-h-k-type-rifles.html

>>33935628
I mean whether.

So /brg/ I just bought a G3, and spent about 4 hours figuring out how to put the bolt back together. But now that I'm officially a battle rifle owner what do I do know. How do I battle rifle general?

Also what chest rigs fit these wide as mags? I can't use muh chicom anymore.

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>>33936651
SADF 83 and take it out shooting

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>>33936651
I like my SADF pattern 83 rig.

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>>33936651
>I can't use muh chicom anymore.
You just need a different ChiCom.

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Anyone got some good sites for PTR stuff besides HKParts and RTG?

I got a whole laundry list of stuff I want to do with mine
>Got the Atlantic PTR GI a while back
>Only real regret is probably the rail, I should have spent the extra money on a railess+claw mount, doubt it'd be reasonable to remove from the sheet metal receiver though
>Replaced the front handguard with a wide one because fuck everything about the slim one, couldn't find any OD so I went with a black one (With bipod cut)
>Stock is too short for me, need to get a longer one without a doubt but most replacements seem to be about the same size, save for the Magpul $300 stock, also wary about the stability of the folding/collapsing ones. Converting to AR stocks just seems lame too
>German surplus bipod in the mail at least
>Try to put scope on rail, iron sights in the way so I use a 1 inch rail riser I had. Looks ridiculous and apparently I need something different because the screws on both the scope and riser kept trying to walk out as I fired
>Replaced charging handle with longer one, goddamn rubber grip on it tore off fairly quickly so I need a better replacement
Any suggestions on specific shit/places to get said shit?
I do like the thing but it needs more work, and I do no intend on dropping loads of cash on anything for a while

>>33938202
>stock
http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/HK21-RUBBER-BUTTPAD-p1863.htm
>charging handle
Is this the one you used: https://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/HK21-Extended-Style-Cocking-Handle-US-Made-267p363.htm
That one worked pretty well for me.

I know both of those come from the two places you mentioned but if you're looking for other sites, you can try apex, e-sarcoinc, keepshooting, and numrich gun parts.

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>>33938202
If you want to spend a shitload of money on an adjustable stock get the Spuhr one.

>>33938012
Nice thighs. you can come over to my house and fuck my sister.

>>33938260
Huh, didn't realize that was an extension, thought it was just a replacement
I did use that charging handle though
Don't think I've ever dug through e-sarcoinc or keepshooting, so I'll get on that

>>33938310
If you check the reviews for the buttplate, they say it increased the length.

Sorry about the charging handle (I linked the wrong one: https://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=199 iss probably is actually the one you got), you could try one of the other smaller ones like: https://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=17083&idcategory=125

>>33938348
I can put the original one back in, I just wanted an extended one since it's kind of a pain working the handle
The construction on the rubber part on the extended was pretty shit though, and tore off very easily

>>33928988
>I don't think the liberals are coming for our guns
lol get fucked >>33941902

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Pelican 1720. Fits a birdshead grip 870 and PTR 91 GI plus mags.

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>>33944742
Woops. Meant to reply to these:

>>33908408
>>33911462

>>33913494
>>33913579
>>33913596
>>33913642
SOCOM is shit. Barrel is too short, rounds aren't reaching their potential velocity. In a BR, reduced range a shit. Might as well just use an AR instead. sage

>>33944742
>>33944756

are there any other brands comparable to pelican?

i feel like the airshit community has abused their name too much

>>33945655
Airshit community? I dunno. I used to go shooting airshit many years ago with a buddy who had a truckbed full of cases like this. I guess they might have been this brand, but he was dumb and spent a lot of money on pretend weapons. I have a 1720 in my room right now. It's fucking solid and heavy af. Fits perfectly in the back of my Jeep behind the driver's seat, sideways, afore the wheel wells. The buckles are thick and give a loud snap, it has an o-ring seal, is lockable, can be chained to the roll bar and can't be cut into like a fabric bag. I don't know of other brands, this is the one case I have and it fits all my guns. If airshitters are giving Pelican a bad name, I don't know what to tell you. I'm happy with mine.

>>33916035

My Fals are not for Lewd...usually. Maybe after I shoot it on Sunday but that said the guy I bought it from said it's a pre-ban version put together in Modesta California.

>>33940184

It kinda sucks that I didn't go out and buy one of those keychains when I first saw them available. Now that I have a couple of Fals I want few. Possibly try to get one that's tanned.

>>33938012
what chicom is this?

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>>33909323
Scar are pretty sexy with that stock.

>>33911390
We literally regularly post a video of this happening with an FAL and Tulammo and people still do this?

>>33945972
Not him but I THINK it's a Type 63
https://www.amazon.com/Loklode-Chinese-Military-Surplus-Bandolier/dp/B01MEDJLSG

>>33946961
holy a e s t h e t i c

I came into a little extra cash and want another rifle but have no fucking idea what to get. I was entertaining the idea of getting a .308 rifle, since the only semi-autos I currently have are .22 and 5.56.

What's good in the .308 world for under $1,500?

Why can G3s handle steel case but FALs explode?

>>33947259
Delayed roller is a very violent action that can handle any shitty ammo but is almost 100% uncontrollable in full auto. So the fal is a less violent action with more room for error.

That's the jamming issue at least I dunno why they explode

>>33913433
As someone who USED to be real big on the M1a and bought a PTR, id recommend getting the PTR. Love mine. Fantastic. Dont be manlet though, Bitch is a fat pig.

>>33935509
Yes, the South African stocks are 11" vs the 9" ones which are normal length.

This isn't to say that some Rh fals didn't have FN sourced parts since they got their hands on anything from everywhere.

>>33915284
one away from the cold war battle rifle trifecta

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>>33947597
The FAL belongs to Mugi unfortunately but I'll get mine built just like it someday.

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>>33947813
I recently acquired a GL receiver for my kit. Should I keep it all original? I sort of want to send it to ARS for refinishing and maybe put some wood on it.

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>>33947906
I'd say either way is fine. I'm probably just going to refinish or paint my flash hider since it doesn't have any finish left but leave the rest of it as is. New finish and wood would look pretty sexy though.

kinda related
i want a 308 semi in california.
all the options seem kinda shitty cause of featurless shit and with springfield being a fag now

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>>33947927
Right, those are my my thoughts exactly. That is why it's so hard to decide. Also if I do refinish it, should I go for parkerizing or the original glossy black paint? Whatever is in that picture looks wonderful.

>>33947951
Have you looked at the CMP? I think Garands are "featureless," aren't they?

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>>33948013
Here is the other option basically, all original. They are just so different.

>>33948102
Is it just me or does that stock look long as fuck? Is that one of the south african stocks?

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>>33948156
Looks about the same to me.

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Fire up the hate engines people here comes the H.C.A.R.

>>33948156
Looks like a long stock to me.

11" is the length of the SA ones.

>>33948420
>Fire up the hate engines people
Why, it's just some overpriced BAR repro except all of the appeal is merc'd by turning it into a LOLSORANDUM modernized version. There is literally nothing to get angry over.

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>>33948156
Looks long to me too.

>>33948496
Whether it's hate, disgust, jealousy, or all the above, it always happens anytime I drop this rifle on /k/. The uneducated opinions just come flying! I find it hilarious.

>>33948541
You are not allowed to have eccentric tastes.

>>33948420
Why did they make the lightening cuts zig-zag like that? The barrel triggers my trypophobia.

Where can I pick up a cheap FAL?

>>33948560
Apparently.

>>33948573
Are you planning on building? That is the cheapest way.

>>33948630
Building will be the best quality for the price. You can probably buy a shitty used DSA for less than that.

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So, I bought a PTR last year because I liked the aesthetics, the "battle rifle" aspect, and I had a visceral hatred of AR-faggotry. Right before the election I bought an AR in case things went south, and now I really like my AR better than my PTR. I have a kid on the way and my PTR is kind of just an expensive wall-hanger. In my state there aren't ranges that go past 200 yards, and .308 is fun but kind of expensive for my purposes(plinking at the range, home defense). Talk me out of selling my PTR and using the cash to pay down denbts /k/?

>>33949788
Do what's best for you and yours. Funs are just that at the end of the day.

Anyone here own a SADF 83 jacket

I'm looking at one really hard but idk if I really want to spend the money

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>>33949963
I really like mine: >>33937937

Got it on ebay for like $45 or so. It came with the internal magpulls too.

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>>33950009
Jacket not rig. Not really a fan of the chicom types desu

>>33949788

>I have a kid on the way
>selling my PTR and using the cash to pay down denbts

I wonder what this country would look like if banks didn't or couldn't make so much money off of Americans in constant debt living beyond their means.

>>33950033
Ah my bad. I've heard pretty good things about those but never used one myself.

>>33950049

Also you aren't going to get a whole lot of anything for the AR or the PTR. Nobody is desperate for firearms right now, and probably won't be until the next election season.

>>33950057
They look like a comfier version of an Alice rig. Dunno if I wanna spend the money on the SADF83 or getting a proper belt rig tho

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>>33901928
Just get a claw mount for your optic

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>>33945972
Like >>33947012 said; Type-63.

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Quick PTR question because I forgot
The pin for the charging handle is pushed our downwards, right?

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>>33950049
>I wonder what this country would look like if banks didn't or couldn't make so much money off of Americans in constant debt living beyond their means.
Yeah, the ironic thing is that just a few years ago I had very little denbts, I got one little CC and my wife and I moved(which cost more than I anticipated) and now I have a few thousand in CC debt. It's so dumb.
>Also you aren't going to get a whole lot of anything for the AR or the PTR.
I was thinking of keeping the AR, and maybe trying to trade for something else + cash for the PTR, maybe something else in 5.56(NPAP?), I think I need to cut my number of calibers down.

>>33950153
Sure

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How do you do, fellow battle rifles

>>33949611
>a shitty used DSA
I'm a poorfag but that's pretty low

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>>33950261
Those are nice. Where did you get those?

I really wish I hadn't left my grandpa's double barrel shotty to rust away in the corner of the closet back home... My step-dad probably threw it away by now. I don't have any old guns...

>>33950153
>>33950229
Kept going and got it anyways
Fuck doing this, and fuck that shitty extended charging handle from hkparts

>>33950436
Garand: CMP
1897: Consignment at OKSS

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>One day I'll get a longer stock that matches the other furniture color
I did remember something though, what the hell is the clip thing on the side of my wide handguard for?

Just picked up a SCAR. What kind of glass should I throw on it?

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>>33949963
They're pretty great, but totally over built unless you're doing 24-48 hour patrols.

But otherwise they're easy to use, good quality, and pretty /k/

>>33901011
Their M-14's are cast, not sure about the BM-59 because there is a boatload of forged .308 garand receivers out there that they could use

>>33950587
Something for a sling I believe. My SA wide hand guard doesn't have it, so I'm not sure.

>>33948420
I just can't justify the price. Especially since they used the heaviest BAR model as a base, instead of the lighted and shortened internals and body of the later models (like the last jungle one, and the FBI monitors).

The HCAR should be built on all that innovation if it is going to cost $4-5k.

It could have so much more going for it, besides "lol can use BAR mags and is just our base 1918 model fugged up.”

>>33948420
>Buys $5,000 rifle
>Vortex

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>>33952805
Kek, there was a strike eagle on the SCAR I got to shoot.

>>33952821
I'm sure someone will put NcStar on their MDR

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(Iraq vet)
Once I opened the box and assembled the gear I was actually satisfied with the clear sight and over all set up .
I started too not purchase this gear due too the reviews however I realized that some of the individuals probably have zero training on how too zero or actually use a sight some just buys them so there rifle looks cool without a actual purpose .....Read a manual it might help ! ! And remember paralax use a plane white back ground ..... Negatives a bit on the heavy which made the weapon off balance but I was able too fix that ..Also this product came in a few days which made my day.
Negatives I would say.
rare battery type .
Scope caps cheap doesn't seal .
Laser too long lacks options for logical placement. Overall the way the picture shows really is not a bad way too set the system up

Would you buy this VET APPROVED scope?

>>33950667
Get a FLIR thermal scope. I haven't seen anyone here with one yet.

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>>33949963
Likewise with >>33951098 this post.

Mine actually had bloody gauze in the one pocket when I got it lol.

>>33952913
stahp

>>33946961
First SCAR I have actually really liked, but its a fucking 3k AR that weighs 10 lbs.

>>33953113
>>33951098
How bad am I missing out for not getting one at 130 then?

I do really need a new belt rig...

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Just finished assembling pic related, how'd I do?

>>33953734
Flash hider is wrong and wood stocks didn't have pads. Also the carrying handle should be at the top front part of the receiver

>>33953770
The pictures in the Visual Encyclopedia of Firearms say that wood stocks had pads in some cases. Also, the carrying handle appears to be flipped down like that on several rifles I've seen around.

I know the flash hider is wrong. That and the shape of the stock are what's bothering me the most.

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>>33953793
Never seen em. Austrians are the only ones who ever had rubber pads on their stocks as far as I know. And the carry handle attaches to the top of the receiver. Peep these cuts

If you wanna get autistic too most stocks had a cut in the top to allow the rear sight some clearance, they go about a half inch further back than the rest of the receiver

>>33909081
Scars eat Tons of shit for breakfast bruh.

It's how the recoil is distributed, Most optics can handle back ward recoil.

The scar sends recoil back and then forward, which brutal on shit that's not built for it, albeit most of the damage you'll see in a 'reasonable' time frame comes from full auto.

It'll take a while for a semi SCAR to show it's gnawing nature.

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>>33953793
>I read it in the encyclopedia!
You better be like 12. Here, have a wholesome young lady.

>>33954168
That's a cool post and all but I'm looking for a source or some data not just someone saying something on 4chan. I'm not even sure what you you mean is SCAR specific by "sends recoil back and then forward" since most semiautos tend to work best if they go back into battery after ejecting.

>>33954457
To add to what you said, the SCAR uses a short stroke piston/rotating bolt. There's nothing particularly mystical or unusual about how it works compared to many other firearms. The impressiveness of it comes more from the materials used and construction than anything else.

>>33938012
THICC

>>33938012
>legs disproportionate to upper body
Do you even bench, bro?

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>>33899580
He got a good one. Century is CAPABLE of making very good guns, but has spottier QC than a sieve.

>>33948573
You don't really

>>33953466
They are worth it at $200. They are truly high quality items. Just get a good rated one https://kommandostore.com/south-african-defense-force-pattern-83-battle-jacket/ from here.

>>33933706
Wouldn't that make the AK the go to gun?

>>33954457

Most 17S owners just don't shoot them that much. A few range trips a month at best, if that, and they pretty much always own more firearms than they shoot on any given range trip.

If you simply google the issue you'll find plenty of discussion regarding exactly what optics get beaten up and which ones don't. Apparently the Elcan holds up to it just fine. Go figure.

Furthermore, it's not a new phenomenon. G3 type rifles are also known to chew up scopes not built to handle the secondary impulse of that giant steel carrier slamming forward when another round is chambered.

>>33925929
Bruh, I'm 10 off from your serial number. Heads up: Gunplumber's kits have type 3 lowers

>>33898938
What distance should I zero my PTR at?

I shot at 36 yards and 100 yards, and both distances seemed to put me and low and slightly left. (indoor range) I was using the 2 setting. I dont want to use the "2" for 200 yards.

Isnt 5.56 supposed to be zeroed at 36 yards? I cant figure out what the .308 equivalent is. Figured I'd just ask you guys before fucking with the rifle.

>>33950510
Its a pain but at least you only need to do it one.

FYI the extended charging handle is actually the charging handle from the HK-21

>>33955357
Battle Rifle General.

What is so hard about that?

>>33956070
The traditional HK zeroing was at 25 meters.

>>33956070

>>33956851 close, 30m with NATO spec ammo

http://mg-42.net/sight_adj.htm

adjust to yards if you want.

>>33957045
Thanks for the correction, I had seen 25m in some other places.

>>33955429
So let's google "SCAR 17 destroys optics."

http://fnforum.net/forums/fn-scar-17s/48910-error-net-myth-truth-scar-17-destroys-optics.html

https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_24/408532_Scars_eat_optics_.html

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=408314

These are just the first three results I got and there were several others pretty much in that same vein. The only thing that they seem to have in common is that there might have been problem in the military with some elcans (lol) and old eotechs that have batteries inline with the recoil, and that movement could cause contact issues. There is certainly nothing conclusive and this really seems like another case of the internet hearing a specific military rumor and deciding that it suddenly applied to everything. If you can provide some evidence more conclusive than a few random people having a optic break, I would really like to see it.

>>33954372
Dude, it's the first time I've made a rifle out of Lego without at least seeing it first in real life or in a game. All I had to go off of was an Ahoy video, a visual encyclopedia of guns, and various Google searches.

>>33953838
Alright, thanks for the info! I will adjust the build accordingly!

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>>33950587
Me again, yesterday I did finally take it out and fire it for the first time in a while
For starters, I really should have bore-sighted instead of playing fast and loose, at 15 yards my shots were like 2 feet high, and I'm wondering if my scope's vertical adjustment even works

Bigger problem though, I was shooting cheap Tula ammo and I had several extraction issues (Round was sort of stuck on the bolt, only way to get it out was popping the stock off to relieve pressure on the bolt carrier and pulling it back)
3rd time it happened the bolt got knocked out of kilter or something and the locking rollers weren't releasing so I couldn't even get the bolt back in.
Already disassembled the carrier and about to start piddling with it, probably going to start by dropping it in my ultrasonic cleaner with some Simple Green
Any critical mistakes I might be making?
Should I take this as a sign to stop using steel-case with my PTR? Because I feel like it may be a good idea

>>33955568
>Heads up: Gunplumber's kits have type 3 lowers
Aren't all IMBELs type 3?

>>33960089
Steel case is fine in PTRs. How's the ejector look on your trigger pack?

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>>33960374
Not gonna lie, not sure what part that is
Is it the pivoting bit shown in the pic? Because if so, it doesn't seem to look too great, like nicks and dents and shit on the edge

>>33947293
Uncontrollable? Manlet detected

>>33960361
As far as I know. It won't match up with your R1 receiver though, merely cosmetic.

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>>33960511
You're close. Take a pic of the other end towards the front.

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>>33961045
Aight

>>33961124
Does it go up and down when you push on that back part?

I can't find a PTR in south florida. I don't want to buy online. Pls help.

>>33956070
Read the Fucking Manuel. Learn to google.
Oh well, open wide here comes the yumyum train.
NATO ammo out of the 18" hk91 passes zero at 30m and 200m Zero at 30m using the 2 setting on the rest sight. You should be 2.5" to 3" high at a 100m

>>33961156
Yes

>>33961402
Not sure what to tell you then m8. I don't see anything obviously wrong. Dis you try any other ammo? PTRs should be able to eat steel like candy though. Give it a good cleaning then try again. If it's still fucking up give PTR a call. They'll take care of you.

>>33961277
>>33957045


google only yielded fuddlore. Appreciate the help.

>>33952805
What's the matter with the Vortex?

>>33962097
nothing. people who can afford expensive stuff tend to shit on lower cost things.

>>33961402
Have you looked at the ejector grove in the BCG? Maybe there's something stuck in it?

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>>33961402
Already ahead of you, goddamn though
Haven't tried anything else, local places only sell 2 kinds of .308, dirt cheap Tula and match grade other stuff

>>33963086
On the bolt itself or the bolt carrier? Because the spring lever deal on the carrier is hard as fuck to push up enough to get the bolt in place.
In other news, the whole reason I did a full disassembly was because the rollers were stuck in a locked position, and now after cleaning and poking at it there's still stuck locked once I reassembled the BCG
Looks like I'll be learning the inner workings of this thing tomorrow

>>33963429
>>33961536
Oops

>>33963429
Either one but it sounds like you might have something fucky going on there in general.

>>33951138
Their M14 receivers are Bula Forged receivers.

The BM59's are cast and not really that well made. Read up on BM59 builders comments on how they took shortcuts and cheapened the design just to get it out.

New thread:
>>33964670
>>33964670
>>33964670

anyone here have experience with magpul's 762 mags?