/brg/ Battle Rifle General

Why would I want an antiquated rifle chambered in an outdated cartridge? Why should I want a rifle with magazines that max out at 20 rounds? Why would I want a rifle that weighs more empty that my AR or AK weighs fully loaded? Why would I prefer to carry 3 20 round magazines instead of 6 30 round magazines at the same weight?

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>>33509088

>>33509088
More stopping power.

>>33509088
Why would you take the time to write all this up if you aren't jealous?

>>33509088
Because

>WE WUZ DINOSAURS' PROTECTORS N'SHIT

>>33509085
Shooting on the equator I see.

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>>33509088
>mfw

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>>33509088
My Battle Rifle has a 24 round magazine and is sturdy and accurate as fuck.

It also shoots match grade ammo.

What's not to love?

>>33508086
just get a low mount for the optic and youll be fine.

>>33509153
Its ugly
Its out of production
The bullet technology it has is out dated
It only makes sense if your government literally subsidizes the cost of your ammo

>>33509176
Ugly? I find it quite beautiful.

The ammo is the best there is.

>>33509153
It weighs 12 pounds and it doesn't do anything particularly better than any other battle rifle.

>>33509196
If you have a penchant for something that looks like Jules Verne-esque scifi would be like, I can understand.

The ammo is acceptable, not superior.
When your government is helping you pay for it, it might be the best you can get.

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>>33509140

>tfw you will never operate in the African bush
>tfw you will never remove poachers with your based G3
>tfw you will never protect dinosaurs

h-hold me /k/

>>33509214
So what you are saying is that people shouldn't like what you don't like?

>>33509153
>muh swiss/german products

Fuck off

>>33509231
Im saying its ugly.
Im not saying that you cant find it pretty.

Im saying the ammo is outdated.
It might be fine enough for you.

Im not saying you cant like it. Im judging you based on your tastes though. Its like peoples tastes in art. I like monet, but van gogh doesnt speak to me.

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>>33509229
Feels bad.

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>>33509249
>>33509207
Sour grapes.

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>>33509270
>Doesnt shoot anything that the government does help pay for the cost of ammo for

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Master Race reporting in

>>33509270
I'm not wrong though. It would be a cool gun to have but there's not anything that makes it particularly good compared to anything else.

>>33509288
I do actually.

Do you think we only own these three guns in Switzerland? We can own a wider variaty of guns than Americans.

Hell, we can even own full autos easily and they don't cost a fortune.

>>33509292
Go watch the videos about this gun made by Ian.

>>33509292
>>33509288
Why are you so assmad that anon has nice shit?

Fuck you people cancerous cunts.

>>33509309
You mean the one where it did like a second or two better in the time trials vs the C308 and the other one where it performed as well as the C308 in the mud test? Wow, I'm really impressed that it managed to do slightly better than a $600 century made gun while weighing 4 pounds more.

>>33509260
>>33509229
>dinosaurs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvhh4MPncHw

>>33509088
A battle rifle is better than an assault rifle in flat savannas.

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>>33509337

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>>33509325
It's functional better and more accurate. I would like to see them test at 300 meters with iron sights.

>>33509319
There isnt a single rifle in that picture that I personally find desirable. But I find Teutonic aesthetics to be abhorrent. I understand that others might

>>33509309
I think thats all you own and shoot. Im not making aspersions onto all swiss. Just you.

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>>33509388

>>33509388
It's functionally similar. I'll give you that it's more accurate but in a hand fitted rifle vs one cobbled together by monkeys out of out shitty CETME kits, I'd certainly hope it would be.

>>33509395
I own many other guns and shoot them as well.

Typical sour grapes guy I see.

>>33509153
It looks like something an artist who's never seen a gun before would draw

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>>33509415
Is "muh sour grapes" the only thing you can say when you can't actually think of a reason why """"your"""" rifle is good?

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>>33509410
A rifle like >>33509403

Will outshoot rifles like pic related.

So yeah, I'm quite certain. It will beat any battle rifle like the FAL or the G3.

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>>33509415
Post those then. Maybe there is something there that ill find appealing.

Your reliance on calling 'sour grapes' shows a real lack of understanding or maybe just laziness. Im not mad that what costs you $400 to own, would be $4000 in burgerland. I mean shit, my battle rifles as configured cost over that right now. I just see nothing appealing in them.

Well those pics of the modernized ones look interesting, if they could unfuck the pistol grip.

>>33509437
Because it is sour grapes.

You guys just bitch and moan about any gun that is not common in the USA.

It's standard /k/ practice. You move from one meme to another.

>mosins
>sks
>Yugo Mausers
>Battle Rifles

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>>33509443

But I rifle like this will outshoot both

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>stop liking what I don't like
>stop not liking what I like
>y-you mad bro?
>implying lel


Another glorious day on /k/

>>33509456
So what you are saying is that people should just like what you like?

>>33509456
You seem to be under the impression that /k/ is some sort of gestalt friendo.

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Sometimes I whisper to her...
"Elizabeth my dear, please tell me about the Falklands, tell me everything about..."

>>33509474
Not at all.

But it's different when you say "hey X is good but has bad things", and when you say "lol it's shit because it's shit!".

It really sets the bar very low and that's when the average shitposting begins.

>>33509088
Sometimes you just need to shoot a bonded bullet that stays above 1800fps past 400y.

Sometimes you just need to make it through a tough shoulder pad or scapula.

And sometimes, just because IMR4064 smells better than CFE223 after the shot.

>>33509495
Well, you keep saying how amazing this rifle is and just reee about sour grapes when anyone provides criticism of it so I don't think you you really set a very high bar to begin with. Why don't you provide something more concrete than "Ian liked it" or "this picture can do better than this picture" if you want to have a discussion?

>>33509270
>ooh boo ooh why doesn't everyone worship me because I'm Swiss?! Why doesn't everyone acknowledge every Swiss manufactured product is the best in the word?!

Don't you realize that no one gives a fuck about you, your country and your products? It's the same thing with German products "muh deutsch quality" which is a retarded meme that has been proven false plenty of times. Now you're going in every thread shoving your Swiss products into everyone's throat "hurr it's superior because it's Swiss". No it fucking isn't, but more than anything : NO ONE GIVES A FUCK.

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Would love to hunt poachers.
It's kinda moral manhunting.

>>33509153
junkyard assembled

>>33509518
It is amazing for sports shooting and the price it costs.

It has bad things about it, but it's in fact a really nice rifle.

>>33509530
So I'm not allowed to post any Swiss guns because you get triggered?

You are the one making a huge scandal about it as if my Swiss made guns greatly offend you.

>>33509531
>Hunting people just trying to provide for their families is moral!

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>>33509531

>>33509546
Its a great buy at 400CHF
Its complete shit at 4000USD

>>33509555
Agree. Unless you are a die hard collector, it's no way a used Stgw 57 is worth that much.

>>33509490
What does Elizabeth say about her imouto, Elle? Is she embarassed or is she a good onee-san that believes in Elle even when she fails to perform?

>>33509547
We're not speaking of people but of niggers and their hellspawns.

>>33509547
> Breaking laws is okay but only if you're poor

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>>33509547
>hunting a species to extinction rather than just selling their children into slavery
They could kill two birds with one stone if they just took a moment to think about it.

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>>33509564
Me and my rifle, we refuse to comment it...

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>>33509586
Or rich

>>33509596
How exactly do you use the grenade sights on an FAL? What do you line the notches up with?

>>33509614
Man, I actually like Keynes's theory on aggregate demand. That's all I've been able to make it through so far, because the man cannot explain worth shit in his own words.

>>33509176
>>33509207
>>33509249
>>33509422
>>33509541
damn what are you fags doing here

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>>33509638
Hes not completely wrong on a lot of things. Just some things.

>>33509292
lol

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>>33509660
Not all battle rifles are from misbegotten bygone eras.

>>33509691
dude I am impressed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>33509691

>>33509088
If you bitch about the weight of a rifle you're not fit for combat fatass

>>33509699
Problem is, now I need a new project to work on.

>>33509710
If only something could be done about that pistol grip

>>33509710
Sexy.

>>33509710
I wonder how much money went into it to make it almost as good as an AR10.

>>33509710
>spend 10k to turn your antique liberal art piece into a AR10

>>33509691
tacticool, mall ninja trash.

>>33509720
Not that I agree with him, but better men than you and I have opted for 5.5lbs 7mm-08 alpine rifles that kicked like a god damn horse for a reason. That reason was weight.

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>>33509691
Not all of them have to be stuck in that era too :^

>>33509776
I dont like old weapons.

>>33509780
Then replace the stoll

>>33509270
That K31 is mint.

>>33509793
I've tried. I gotta take it to a smith in Okeechobee and let him try, cause I got it to ~6-700 degree and torqued the shit out of it and it didn't move

>>33509822
Its probably silver soldered on.
Cut it off and rethread?

>>33509846
>cutting down a matching number Stg58 barrel just so i can put my stoll on a little sooner

I'm not that desperate. I'll just deal with it till I can get it properly taken care of

>>33509734
That barrel alone is worth more than an AR10.

>>33509871
>Worth
Subjective

>Costs
Its more than 700 CHF or more than 4000CHF

>>33509885
The barrel is a match grade barrel made by Grünig & Elmerig, it's the same type of barrels used for precision rifles for Olympic events.

The barrel alone costs 2k.

It basically turns the Stgw 57 into a precision rifle for 300 meters. That's why so many people upgrade it.

>>33509801
Yeah I got quite lucky when I found it. It's basically an unissued K31 made in the 1970s.

>>33509778
great personal attack. Let me know when you get a C.A.R and then you can talk shit

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>>33509899
$2k barrel
to shoot 300m

>>33509925
Yeah, doesn't mean you can't shoot it further away.

But basically once you put that barrel and mod your rifle with diopter sights and other stuff, you can basically win any competition in Switzerland unless you can't shoot for shit.

>>33509917
Thank you for your service, and don't dodge the argument. Nobody ever bitched about having to be the guy hauling around the m249?

>>33509979
Dont really get rifles that are custom made for custom competitions.

>go overseas on short tour
>local country's army uses FALs
>they are beat to shit
>still accurate, doesn't rattle and feels rock solid
>looks sexy as hell
>mfw I almost fell for the PTR/Century meme a year ago because an NCO in my unit kept shilling them

WEW lad PTR not even once. Fuckin rattling loosey goosey bucket of bolts.

Buying a SA58 Standard once I get back stateside.

>>33509679
Masters of Analytical Economics degree here; this all checks out.

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>>33510017
>Analytical Economics
Would that qualify as a post graduate bullshit artist?

>>33509994
See it like this, there are about 30 competitions each month in your region, so you win money, prizes and medals by participating and getting a good score.

It's awesome as fuck, you basically go to several towns each weekend and shoot there in order to get some prize.

It's very addicting and people want to have the best mods for their guns.

>>33509547

They don't eat the meat. They just cut the horns off. If they wanted to feed their families you'd think meat would be their top priority.

Either way they're non-self aware negroids to top it off.

>>33510059

He can't see it like that because he's a poorfag mongrel with no class.

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>>33509547
>>33509586
>>33509596
>>33510085
The rhino is killed and the horn is cut off to be sold in Chinese markets. Some old fucks still believe that elephant and rhino cure blood pressure problems and erectile dysfunction.

>>33510085
They cut the horns off and then use the proceeds from the horn sale to buy food, ignoring that rhinos are made out of meat because they have an average IQ of ~65 and can't into abstract reasoning

>>33510036
Yeah, I just bullshit my way through the day.

>>33510214
They also know they have to move fast or the murderers will come get them. No time to quarter up a rhino and get it onto trucks.

>>33509153
Ergonomic nightmare. Better maintain that weapon son lest you get tetanus off an edge of that motherfucker.

>>33509231
Well you happen to be saying its the best or better than the rest and take it very personal as soon as someone disagrees with you.

>>33509319
>indifference =assmad

>>33509456
Implying most battlerifles besides ptr's are "common" in the united states. You're an idiot.

>>33510452
Are you saying M1As, FALs, and AR10s aren't common in the US?

>>33510468
You have to think of the three people that anon knows.

>>33509495
He's been very civil and polite and given you valid points why the rifle is meh and brother you simply can not let it go. He must totally have a problem (sour grapes) and not you.

ITT: swiss stg57 stockholm syndrome.

>>33509822
Mine was silver soldered on. Had to heat it up to get it off.

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>this thread

>>33509925
Right lmao

>>33510468
M1a's are not that common fag they are still hoarded and collected, fals are definitely not that common. Ar10's are thanks to psa and dpms but nigga you dumb. Theres a reason these brg are a circle jerk. Now common we will say is as common as an stg in neutral land as an ar 15 is in burgerland that's a good measure of common. Neither of these other rifles are thaaaaat fucking common okay. Okay.

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>>33511037
Anyone who thinks it's acceptable to hit submit on a post like that doesn't have the right to call anyone else dumb.

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>>33511037
You should seriously consider not posting

>>33511037
M1As and DSA FALs are fucking everywhere m8. Tons of companies make AR10s. I'm not even sure what the rest of your post is trying to say.

>>33509157
Like the DSA one? I was thinking STANAG, but I'll probably put a new glass on it anyway

Where's the best place to buy an FAL build kit (no receiver)?

>>33509120
Implying that that's not the best job title ever

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>>33513408
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/634805102

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>>33514473

>>33509088
lol you're a pussy

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>>33509042

>>33509270
What is that strange looking rifle, my Swiss friend? Would you happen to know if they're obtainable in the US? I'm so intrigued by it's strange design that I simply must know it's history.

>>33514625
Do you have four thousand dollars and dont mind that spare parts of unobtainable?

>>33514625
SG510. You can get them in the US, but it's not really worth the cost here.

>>33515668
pic would be better without the shitty beer and attention whoring

>>33515668
I hate you so much cody. Also get better guns.

>>33510214
or that they don't even need to risk life and limb for rhino, in order to get the horn, in order to sell it off, in order to buy food for their family.

they could just hunt prey species or animals that are not as guarded as rhinos, and get food from that.

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>>33509042
>Rhino
>Dinosaur
>MFW

>>33509580
Nice try jew, but you only make yourself sound retarded.

>>33509780
where does everyone get the type A selectors? fucking seriously!

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I ordered this recently.

What does /k/ think?

>>33509088
You must be 18+ to view this site.

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>>33509780
Nice CASV.

And FNX.

>>33509229
Wasn't there some Anon who was getting together some resources to create a anti-poaching group?

>>33519051
If you're referring to Johnny's bullshit, then that was never going to happen. Even if he got the funds and legal shit out of the way, he's too insufferable for anyone to want to be around him.

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>>33518607
Belgium :^

Do you really wanna spend 30 dollars on a meme selector?

>>33513445
>arizonaresponse
Isnt that guy considered the best for any service of a FAL?

>>33519624
Metric or SAE FAL and why

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>>33519715
I like Ed Vandenberg more, but yeah

>>33509042
That dude looks like he's seen some shit

>>33509140
>>33509260
Pretty clean looking soldiers

>>33515668
Hey check your pm's on jewtube

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Interesting post about barrels on the files.

>>33521681
This is why I got a barrel custom cut for an FAL

>>33521681
So basically Stg barrels are the best that you can get still, no surprise here

The only useful info really is explaining the horrible quality of most other barrels

>>33522075
I find it interesting how good Imbel barrels apparently are.

>>33522143
Imbel is surprisingly a high quality manufacturer, IIRC they got a shit ton of tools from FN when they adopted the FAL so it's basically the same situation as Bulgaria producing really good AKs

The one saddening thing to hear is how rare good G1 barrels are because the Turks fucked so many of them up, I thought a lot more stayed in storage than apparently did

>>33522143
Carried much
Shot little

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>>33522295
That's what happens when you don't try to invade British territory I guess.

>>33522311
The muzzies have been doing that quite well then.

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Thanks, DSA.

>>33520064
The gunbroker listing makes him sound like an asshole, do you think he'd tell me to fuck off if I asked to just drive out and pick the one I wanted? He's like 40 minutes away from me.

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>>33523493
Might as well ask, can't hurt to try. He was willing to answer some of my dumb questions before I bought my kit from him.

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>TFW Armalite stopped selling these because they hate taking my money

>>33524018
I think you've posted this image before. Is that the pit out near Sultan?

>>33522618
>tfw no Magpul anti-tilt followers for FAL mags

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>>33509176
shut your whore mouth.

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>>33524163
>TFW Armalite stopped selling these because why would anyone buy one when they make a version that takes normal magazines
ftfy

>>33524272
Use SCAR mag followers if you want an upgrade

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Okay /brg/ totally, absolutely that is in no way real.
If you lived in a massively cucked location where the absolute best SHTF rifle you can get is an M1 Garand how fucked would you be? Is there any tips or strategies you could give to improve their chances?

>>33527886
>buy bandolie
>lrn2reloadfast
>lrn2shootfast
>lrn2lift
>lrn2run
>buy good pistol

>>33527886
Yeah totally rhetorical right? My best advice is to move since you seem kind of fucked anon.

>>33527886
>>33527894
This. It'll take training but you need to make the best of what you're given. The M1 is a decent rifle but you're probably going to be outgunned by pretty much everyone you meet.
Seriously though, get a decent pistol if you can, I'd hate to fight at CQB distance with an M1.

>>33527886
You're not fucked at all; .30-06 will fuck a guy up good and proper and the M1 is quick to reload since you can just shove more bullets into it and resume shooting.

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What BATTLE RIFLE magazines, and spare parts would be most available in (north) America and south America if we stopped time

>right now

>>33528140
G3 mags.
M1 parts.

Based on price and country of origin.

>>33528161
Separate it more, at least between the two continents FFS.

>>33528172
I was kinda just thinking USA baka desu sempai.

>>33528191
You think M1 Garand parts would be the most available in the USA?

That's more believable for South America to me.

>>33509042
When the fuck is DSA releasing their modernized and titanium FALs?

I want to join the brg club but don't want a POS

>>33528251
Not the same anon, but seriously?
M1 parts are common in South America?
Did we ship a lot of military aid down there around that time?

>>33528279
We always dump our old shit on allies, and SA has plenty of allies at various times. Do you history much?

>>33528293
I just though we shipped most of them overseas to places like Korea and Italy after the war.

>>33526307
>Garbage bolt-on rail and abortion muzzle break with Fagpul furniture
Gross

>>33527886
What shitworld backwater hellhole do you live in where the best SHTF rifle you can manage is an M1 Garand? It's a good gun but the hell anon...

What >>33527894 and >>33527952 said, try to have a backup handgun if possible, and get really, really good at fast-loading strippers. It's still going to do some serious harm to someone being a 30-06.

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>>33528140
.308 AR
Though really the whole "muh spare parts" meme is laughable as fug.

>>33528263
Its just titanium parts. Not a whole rifle. Get a SCAR

>>33528436
>PWS brake is an abortion
babbies first shit post?

>>33529373
>garand
>stripper clips

>>33529395
"en bloc clip", sorry. It's early morning and work sucks ass.

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Finally, an explanation of the MDR's patented forard ejection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GutuZSZBQso

>>33509388
Where to buy?

>>33509395
I just gotta know, where the fuck did you learn to talk like that?

>>33509531
+ boot
--------
= licked

>>33509088
1 shot 1 kill thats why.

Best prices to expect for 30-06 Garand and .308 Garand, respectively?

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So I got my Rhodesian mags attempt through. Incoming Sherwin Williams paint t codes. Turned out good. Just used a sock and distressed with wrapping in plastic to rip off quick.

>>33531360
>Big Rooster.jpg
I say... what in the....what in the FUCK is that?

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>>33531360

>>33531360
Man these paint jobs fucking suck. You guys should head towards hotrodding those old FALs, or using authentic era pieces.

This [shoddy] imitation stuff is fucking clown shoes.

Sorry man.

>>33531360
i think it looks pretty good. but im no rhodieboo

>>33531416
What does yours look like?

>>33531541
Does this only make sense to you as a contest you get to be the sole judge of? I told you because you all are a fucking echo chamber anymore on FAL, aesthetics. It's nauseating to see you all spend your money thinking you have only one path to take that rifle.

You're the same people that scoffed at hotrods and then only took enough interest in them to watch them die.

Go on with your trashbag paint splits, totally just like a real rhodie. Not at all something so cringeybthat even the real rhodies would probably tap out.

>>33510014
PTR has very good production standards tho. Do you just hate the g3?

>>33531937
But they dont

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>>33524163
What's wrong with DPMS?

>>33532363
It's shit

>>33531937
Just ignore him. It's just someone trying to stir up shit in a relatively decent thread.

>>33509547
>isis is OK because they believe theyre right!
>crime is fine long as you're disadvantaged!

>>33532565
How so ?

>>33532565
Nice rebuttal faggot

>>33514555
>waiting for a blond guy in tight shorts to slap on some yellow paint

>>33533013
Inconsistent QC
Three different specs for rail height.
DPMS spec reciever cut (vs superior KAC)
2-3moa barrels
Far too many models with railed gas blocks

>>33533291
Those are actually going to Kenya.

>>33533298
>source needed
>people like options
>if you don't like their receivers don't buy them
>need source, again
>subjective opinion

Work on your debates, more fact and less opinion

>>33535582
Dont need to convince poorfags that poverty rifles are inferior. There is literally nothing to be gained. I just enjoy pointing out that they are making poor choices, and figure out whats the next nice thing I want to buy, save up for it, and then purchase it.

If you need evidence that DPMS makes some of the worst 308 ARs out there, you really need to get out more often.

>>33532363
How do you like your 74? Is it an Arsenal?

>>33535600
>I-it's not worth my time

Then why'd you post in the first place

>>33535807
> I just enjoy pointing out that they are making poor choices
teh lulz son

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>>33509088
well if your a bitch and cant carry a mans rifle i guess you wouldent, but considering .308 has better penetration, longer effective ranges, causes a lot more damage, and penetrates cover better i can see why your bitch hands are so upset.

my advice? life more and wait for your balls to drop.

t. a guy who carried a m240B for years.

>>33535910
Former m60 bearer here
Can confirm, other anon is a bitch

does anyone know how i can make my magazines stick less in my FAL?

its had a couple hundred rounds threw it, but the magazines go in and our kinda idk sticky.

im new be gentle.

>>33535960
Do 1-reload-2 drills until they break in.

>>33535910
Why does Karl's rifle seem more basic here than I know it is? That gun usually exudes precision aesthetics.

>>33536181
Because that's not Karl's rifle, it's a SG 510 that somebody lent them for mud-testing.

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Poverty The Rifle or AR-10?

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>>33536556
neither

>>33536556
Do you want an ergonomic rifle?

>>33536345
Are you implying I thought it was not an SG 501, or that Karl has a 501 that looks sweeter?

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>>33536584
I already see where this is going.
>praise be onto stoner


>>33536574
>putting rails on a fal
gas urself please

If someone actually made forged FAL receivers that aren't dog shit and aren't $700+ Brazilian ones, I'd might be more inclined to build a FAL

>>33536669
Maybe you can track down an LMT forged one

>>33509140
how do i get my fal to get battleworn like that?

>>33536692
>LMT
I certainly hope the prices on those are not comparable to the prices on their AR pattern rifles.

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>>33536692
Those are 6-700 bucks anyways

>>33536669
:^^^^^^^^^

>>33536699
Neglect

>>33536603
>implying that you confused that SG510 for Karl's Zenitcofucked AK74 or maybe his C308

>>33518607
mine has that. is that rare or something?

why am i replying to a two day old post?

>>33536699
>FAL

Get some sandpaper and sand down all the raised points on the receiver, then polish them until they shine. Do the same for the entire exposed barrel, and any other points that your hands routinely touch when you're firing, carrying, cleaning, etc.

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If the FAL can be run and maintained just fine with a railed dust cover that gets bolted on and left in place indefinitely, why doesn't anyone make a closed-top FAL receiver with a rail machined into it?
Wouldn't that be much lighter and simpler and sit lower, potentially allowing cowitnessed mounting of mini red dot sights?

>>33536699
Shoot it a lot and maintain it like you're a drug-crazed, starving African child soldier.

>>33536882
Because the bolting into place is actually a stupid as fuck idea by DSA. But it's the only good quality railed dust cover for FALs

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>>33536803

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>>33536969
Just wait till I can afford another receiver and barrel to make a shorter FAL just like this

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>>33509531
Ok, now this triggers me...
Has anyone actually fragged one of these fuckers?

>TFW You hunt poachers and rake up a kill count / trophy room of Poacher heads / gear
Pic very related

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>>33524163
>TFW Armalite stopped selling these because they hate taking my money

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>>33509042

>>33509547
They're not hunting to put food on their families' tables. Poachers hunt them because those slant eyed gook bastards are obsessed with boner pills and believe that grinding up pretty much any rare animal substance will give them an erection.

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>>33535624
It's an arsenal. It's pretty good my dude, BUT the paint is pretty shit to be honest. It will start coming off during cleaning. I think there's equally as good options elsewhere for less as well. Mines in 5.45 but I think they also make a 5.56 model, so if I had to do it over I would go with the 5.56. If you are thinking about getting one, it's your money, but I have a tiny bit of buyers remorse.

>>33537666
Why would you choose the 5.56 gun? Magazines are fucking nowhere and cost more than bakes/plums.

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>>33537925
Ammo is easier to obtain than 5.45 (not like 5.45 is rare or anything but not every store carries it (excluding online)) and you can shoot 223 as well. More ammo selection, even the cheap stuff isn't that much more expensive than milsurp which is corrosive.

Circle 10 magazines are the same prices or not too much difference from each other.

Not to sound like some crazy prepper, but you would at least be able to share ammo easily and there would be more common than 5.45 in those scenarios.

I don't reload but I would also guess 5.56 would be easier to reload.

[spoiler] Satan doesn't lie homie [/spoiler]

>>33537925
Also if you are buying a 1000ish dollar AK, why would care about the costs of mags?

>>33536669
I like rails on a FAL

someone please post that hollywood movie still of an operator holding a tac'd out FAL.

>>33537134
It's like the message of that book is COMPLETELY lost on you.

>>33536845
Sorry nigger, I gave you the two options and your substitutions are just dumb.

>anyone ever mistaking swisshit for slavshit

>>33510199
>that fucking optic and stock setup
>for a 3 MOA rifle

why

>>33538510
You need to lurk /brg/ more then. To the poverty set, magazine cost is a real thing. Every last penny spent is a great concern.

>>33539672
Some are one moa

>>33541433
What's wrong with that rifle

>>33536556
Did anyone actually have a suggestion.

>>33536556
>>33542100
Are you looking for a gun to have fun with or a gun that you want to do precision shooting with?

>>33509042
Its a mammal not a dino. Birds are whats left of the dinos

>>33510199
Picatinny was a mistake

>>33509547
A criminal is a criminal. And criminals who pillage the natural wealth of already poor countries are especially bad.

>>33539119
Objective reality

>>33542378
Tell that to the crocs

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>>33542970
wrong

>>33542317
Fun but I'll eventually do precision shooting at some point in time. Mostly because the magpul precision ar stocks look cool :o

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>>33543389
Well, if you're looking for fun, then I'd say to get the PTR unless you have a particular affinity for ARs. There's nothing wrong with ARs I just find other kinds of guns to be more interesting and fun to shoot.

If you want to do precision shooting down the road, then I'd want to have enough money to spend on a higher end AR than what you'd get in the $1000ish price range.

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>>33509042

>>33543025
I found a source about your level of comprehension

http://discoverykids.com/articles/are-alligators-really-dinosaurs/

>>33509260
that whole set of gear, pretty cool

>>33542947
Psychopathic/sociopathic behavior by another name.

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Since precision shooting is being mentioned, might as well ask:
How does one get more comfortable with holding a battle rifle steady for shooting? I can carry it pretty easily for longer periods, but keeping my non-dominant arm stable during sighting is a bit hard. I figure stance isn't the real reason, but for listing I'll mention I am standing in a more civilian non-dominant foot first (unlike chest forward if you were used to plate carriers). I can hit paper, but often by trying to adapt to my wilder sway rather than properly keeping steady.

Right now I'm sticking lower distances within 50m range just to get my bearings with more precise shooting than "I hit the old tractor tire we threw in the pit". Got some basic paper now for targets that I slap to old wooden pallets.

I don't have too much problem with other firearms, but being new to battle rifles I'm definitely not holding steady. Any tips appreciated, and I'll answer as I can.

>>33544580
I have a bipod and tripod if I'm shooting off a bench and not prone/runninangunin

>>33544700
I can get a bipod if I wanted, but I'd rather be able to use it properly whilst standing; innawoods and if I need to deal with coyotes/bobcats/bears on the property, I want to be able to make clean, steady shots.

>>33544837
Just use a standing or kneeling position. The stances have been fairly standard for a long time now. Even a heavy as fug battle rifle weighs what, 14lbs? No big deal

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looking at purchasing this LAR-8 for use at the range and nearby national forest. does it suck?

>>33545409
>ar10 ish rifle
>uses fal mags
>surplus fal mags are more than sr25 pattern mags
y tho

>>33545409
>uses several different not-quite-interchangeable magazine patterns
I bet that works really well.
Get a M&P10, you dummy. They're about the same price, they use normal magazines, and they're lightweight, accurate, and reliable.

>>33543429
>95 DPM

Least they've got taste.

>>33545560
awesome, thanks for the feedback. I'm going to look into that

>>33545518
Because when it came out FAL mags were $4 and KAC pattern mags that didn't suck donkey dong were $110

>>33547418
So make a fucking LAR-8A Elite Operator 2 that takes normal mags and quietly discontinue the old one. This isn't rocket science.

>>33509088
http://soldiersystems.net/2017/04/05/us-army-considers-7-62-interim-battle-rifle/

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>tfw when the year wait is finally over

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>>33547900
>USSOCOM recently removed all of its SCARs from service
what
why

>>33547485
That involves engineering and testing.
Maybe they are sitting on 10 rifles that haven't sold in 7 years

>>33509462
Nice collection there, I especially like the FN49

>>33548032
Because they stopped falling for the meme.

>>33548032
They're replacing them all with Desert Tech MDRs. That's why it's taking so long for them to hit the market.

>>33548677
too soon

>>33548677
Dubs of truth right here, friend. The SCAR rifle was always a meme. A plastic piece of shit meme. The Belgians know it, and now with Trump in the WH they can't give us raw deals like they could with Obummer!

>>33548762
I really hope that there's someone on /k/ who preordered an MDR years ago and gets super butthurt every time someone makes a joke comparing it to Duke Nukem Forever or posting facetious explanations for why it's late again.
That would be great.

So is every part of a CETME G3 bad?
There's a C308 with a PTR lower, receiver, and barrel somewhere around me for $625. Is it still a bad buy with the PTR parts in it?

Where do I get a Imbel GL receiver?

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=412763

This a good deal?

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So /brg/ I bought some surplus FAL mags I believe to be Belgian based on the the base plate markings. The problem is some of them dont fully seat into my FAL. The one mag that does seat properly has a oval on the back protrusion and the ones that dont fit have a smaller circle. Since I dont have a camera available atm here is a shitty mspaint drawing of the back of the mags.

Any ideas as to what a solution might be? Return them bust out a file ect.

>>33550565
Take an actual picture of it m8

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>>33537292
>He doesn't own one of the 50 they built!
LMAO FUCKING LOSER

>>33550619
Uggo

>>33550619
Not a real AR10.

>>33550140
All C308s have a PTR barrel and receiver. The issue is that all the other parts are from shitty CETME kits that Century throws together.

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>>33548032

Probably have to wait for more details on this.

We don't have the civilian SSR/CSR because there was a massive order of the SSR receivers just last year that took up the South Carolina plant's run.

>>33551228
I got tired of waiting last year and got an MWS in the meantime

>>33514503
This post was made as bait and was given 30 replies. None of what he said made any sense. The guns trigger is great and its just a rock and lock mag change. The controls are easier than an ak because you can reach the charging handle with you index finger of your right hand with an adjusted grip.

Pure hogwash

Can anyone to tell me the difference between a g3 wood stock and a cetme wood stock?

>>33552181
Did that trigger you?

>>33509088
Why would you not want more guns?

Why are you looking for excuses to not buy more guns?

You're a fucking disgrace to the name /k/ommando.

>>33536905
I'm confused, how is it stupid? It doesn't really bolt on, i have one and the "bolts" are just screws that tighten it on and clamp it to the rails.

I think the answer is the tooling would be more complicated and then you wouldn't be able to get to the chamber and head for work.

What's a good entry-level battle rifle?

So far all I've found is the C308, I'm hoping I at least get some options. I'm looking to spend <$1000.

>>33553499
308 AR

>>33553499
Don't get a C308. Get a PTR, AR10, or find a used DSA.

New thread:
>>33554087
>>33554087
>>33554087