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>>33346273

are you fucking retarded? that would be an sbr and you shouldn't modify surplus. leave it alone

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I'm trying to pick a 10mm handgun but got stuck and now seek /k/'s wisdom. I made this graphic for your viewing pleasure. It'll be my "Fuck off nature." innawoods gun and possibly my "Fuck off nigger." innacity gun if I can CC it without great discomfort.
>inb4 cracked slides
>inb4 glocknade
Neither meme is relevant to the current production of either company and neither actually happened to these specific models in the past.

>>33346285
Yeah, I know it might be sbr, I'm asking how short it could be cut/where to measure from to ensure it ISN'T an sbr.

>shouldn't modify surplus

brah it's a low end nugget, there are plenty more where it came from.

>>33346273
I believe barrel starts where the rifling starts. You probably want to cut an inch over just in case you love your dogs.

>>33346273
>>33346318
on the off chance you're serious , a barrel has to be 16 inches long so you stick a dowel down the barrel and mark the dowel at the muzzle, then you measure that and say its 24 inches, you can remove 8 inches from there

so no fucktard thats literally 4 inches of barrel which is why im sure its just an epic troll baiting for LE FUNNY DOG KILLING FEDS MEME

>>33346312
Bumping for this. I'm interested.

>>33346273
buy a cheap type 53

>>33346312
Which one is more comfortable for you? which one's operation is more intuitive?

I don't like glocks that much due to the little switches which my fat hands have difficulty operating so I'd pick the eaa if I had to pick between the two. I'd say glock is fairly reliable and functional all around, but unless you're looking for a very specific caliber/frame-size combination (I personally cc'd a glock 33 for quite a while because it was the only reasonably available and affordable subcompact 357 sig and I was really into 'wacky' calibers [10mm too] and subcompacts/pocket carry at the time.)

I haven't fired the eaa witness myself, or even held one; but I'd say easily based on the picture, the more 1911-ish switches and layout already appeal to me moreso than glocks which I have quite a bit of experience firing (I think they fire well; I just don't like fiddling with the little buttons, and they're ugly as sin)

You should definitely try out both (at least in a hold one in your hands capacity if you can't rent or borrow one to actually fire at a range). If you can only 'try out' one; I'd say try out the eaa. Glocks are like a national chain; you more or less know what you're getting into; a walmart in houston and one in sf or boston are all going to be more or less the same.


TLDR: glocks are always acceptable and a safe buying option

demo at a range or at a bare minimum fingerfuck an eaa before you make your decision

>>33346318
16 inches is the cutoff for sbr

>>33346312
Neither the EAA nor the G20 are in any way really concealable outside of "stick it under a giant parka".

The Witness is a target gun. Its SA trigger pull shits all over the Glock's trigger pull, even with a "competition" aftermarket trigger in the G20. And it can be improved, although not as easily or cheaply, by a gunsmith.

The EAA has inarguably better ergos, sights, and recoil impulse because it's a steel-framed target gun, the G20's gonna be more weather-resistant and more comfortable to carry innawoods because of its shorter OAL and significantly lighter weight.

Also:
>manual safety, IE cocked n' locked
>2 trigger pulls
yeah nah only if you're Israeli carrying like a retard or need 2nd strike on a dud (something the G20 can't do).

>>33346359
I was asking how to properly measure
>>33346343
Thanks man, that's helpful, I just never really was much 'into' bubba/sawing off guns, most of what I know about sbr is pistol ar brace/atf dog memes. That's helpful.

>>33346312
Glock.

I don't like Glocks but the answer is Glock unless you've got the cash to spring for a Dan Wesson or sig.

>>33346273
I think what you should do is buy tactical mods for it like tactical stocks, shorter barells., etc. Not start lopping pieces of it off with a hand saw

>>33346377
Stick a cleaning rod down the barrel with the bolt closed. Mark it at the muzzle. Measure 16" from the end you stuck down the barrel. Mark that a different color. Lay the cleaning rod next to the barrel with the first mark at the muzzle. Transfer the second mark over on to the barrel, that's your cut mark. Cut so that you leave ALL of the mark and a little extra so you have room to clean up the cut and as insurance against a dogshooter with a short stick.

>>33346353
Huh, didn't think many others would be in the market for a speshul snowflake handgun.

>>33346357
I have held them both and fired a Glock 17 and CZ 75 B. The Glock aims a little easier but the steel CZ was noticably softer shooting. Doesn't matter so much for 9mm but I think it will for 10mm. Neither fit my hand so great because I have little girl's hands but I can grip both entirely and actuate the controls reliably. The Glock is a lot more intuitive to control just because there's less to control, but I have to say I like the idea of a manual safety. Just one more thing to train with though. Looks wise the Witness wins hands down, but I do sort of like that I could customize the Glock and make it my own. Even if it would still look worse it would look worse on my terms. I'd get a custom double stack 1911 but a 3k+ gun is scary to me. I'm not a poorfag but I've always hated nice things because I tend to worry about them.

>>33346366
I CC a SIG SP2022 right now. It's not as big as either of these but it's not exactly small. I hadn't considered weather resistance but I guess there's a reason Alaskanon has a G20. Recoil is my biggest concern, which is why weight is such a tradeoff. Heavier gun sucks right until you have to shoot it. I would carry the Witness condition 1 and I wouldn't try to second strike, RTB and all. I guess I could pretend it was SAO.

>>33346380
I have the cash but boutique guns are too stressful. If I ever had a nice gun trapped in a police lockup I'd have to go all Breaking Bad on it.

With these new points of consideration I think I'll be going with the Glock, but I'm going to try and rent one first. Hard to find a range near me with any 10mm. Thanks, /k/.

I may sound stupid but I dislike using gun broker. I've been trying to find a Mauser luger and Mauser k98. Every time I find one it's either bid to shit or I lose the auction. Is there any sites that sell it outright?

>>33346560
Not regularly. Check Classic Firearms and J&G. Otherwise suck it up or perform ritual sacrifice and try your luck at a LGS with used stock.

>>33346273
>>33346318
>>33346377

Op do you know what crowning is in relation to guns? Google it. If you do just lop it off you'll fuck up the crown and accuracy. Make sure you have a local gunsmith that'll re-crown your muzzle.

>>33346560
Simpson Ltd.

Anybody ever add iiia Kevlar to a coat before? I wanted to do it for a jacket, so I could ride a motorcycle, but it would also be neat if I could say it might stop a bullet

>>33346694
It says they don't sell online. Due to atf.

>>33346802
>it would also be neat if I could say it might stop a bullet
If someone says this and you shoot them, is it a crime?

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>>33347108

>>33346828
It says on their website how to purchase an item. Don't be retarded.

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>>33346312
>that graphic

>>33346273
Hey fudd - don't mutilate a 80-year-old irreplaceable antique just because you're too much of a poorfag to be able to go out and buy a smaller, shorter rifle. The term "bubba" is not a compliment around here. Also, unless you've been to gunsmithing school, modifying firearms yourself is stupid and is basically you asking for a trip to the hospital.

>>33346273

Has to be 26 inch over all length and at least 16 inch barrel for it to not be an sbr

>>33346318
>brah it's a low end nugget, there are plenty more where it came from.
2007 called, and said you're still a retard. There is no such thing as a "low-end nugget" anymore. The days of the $60 Mosin are gone forever, stuck back in the days when Dick Cheney jokes were relevant. There really aren't "plenty more where it came from", but even if there were, it's still no excuse to chop up an antique because you're too poor and stupid to buy the gun you actually want instead.

>>33346328

Barrel stops where the bolt starts


You can have 6 inch muzzle device permanently fixed to a 10 inch barrel and it's not a sbr. The ATF measures the barrel from putting dowel down it.

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>>33347262
I'm not autistic, just retarded.

You do realize you're going to fuck up the accuracy of that rifle, dramatically increase its recoil, and risk hurting yourself, right? Just because some stupid wops in the Roaring 20s chopped the barrels on cheap shotguns so they could kill witnesses against the mafia doesn't mean it's a good idea.

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>>33338501
>Can I breech load a pump shotgun if the tube isn't empty? Mossberg 590A1 if it matters.

>>33347501
I don't see why not...

>Open action
>Feed a open shotgun hull with primer
>Close action
>Safety on
>Place buttstock on ground
>Pour in powder
>Pour in shot
>Ram something down to keep the shot against the powder (is it called a sabot?)
>Present
>Fire

I think a slug or ball would be tricky; it might hang up on the walls of the hull, leaving an air gap between powder and projectile, which will vastly increase pressure. Also, what if some of the powder or some of the shot manages to pour down between the shell wall and the chamber? Seems a bit silly.

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What 9mm or 45ACP fullsize/compact pistol will provide me with the following:

>Cheap ($300-$500)
>Reliable (will eat any ammo)
>Newb friendly (the only handgun I have experience with is a .38 snub)
>Accommodating of large hands

>>33349358
fuck, forgot to say: for HD and once/mo. target practice

>>33347686
I'm pretty sure that's not what he meant.

>>33349358
M&P 45 If you can spend fifty more dollars.

>>33347501
I just did on my 870, just keep a finger on the round in the tube so it doesn't come out, then load one in the breach. It's finnicky but it works.

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>>33347686
>>33349398
Yeah I was talking about this. But that is good to know too.

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>>33349492
Oh cool, thanks anon.

People cut down nuggets because milsurp sucks to actually use.

Sell nugget, buy a better modern rifle. Ancient bolt action Milsurp is for wall hanging.

Why? You won't shoot it much anyway. You are already bored with it and prices have gone up so get paid and buy something better.

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>>33346312
Nice phone number.

Had this problem last week. Thought I got it solved, but apparently not.

Last round in the magazine doesn't lock the slide back. I gave my handgun a damn good cleaning. I even put a little lube on the slide after cleaning it.

The slide locks when I manually pull it back, but not when I fire. I tried with a couple magazines, one I use often, and one I don't, and the problem happened with both. I was shooting Winchester 115 grain. The only few times it did lock back on the last shot was when I waited a while to fire my last round, like 8-10 seconds between the second to last, and final round in the magazine.

What gives? I should also point out that the previous time I went shooting, 124 grain seemed to work consistently, but I thought it was still an issue of a dirty gun that was just simply overcome by a higher grain shot

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>>33349699
>he doesn't have grindr's customer support line memorized

Most new firearms come with a warning that reads factory warranty will be void if reloaded ammunition was used.

How would the manufacturer actually know if reloaded ammunition was used?

>>33349835
If what remains of Bubba's Buffalo Blam casing is fragmented in what remains of the chamber.
Alternatively if your dumb ass tells them.

I want to replace my carbine length upper with a midlength upper. My question is, what would be the cheaper option;
>rebuild my current upper with new barrel and gas tube
or,
>replace the entire upper

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Statistically, it seems like anything larger is overkill. Does /k/ agree?

>>33350406
"Overkill" depends on what you're killing. 1-3 unarmored people right in front of you? Yeah. As that's probably 95% or so of handgun use cases you'll notice it's very popular.
If you find yourself faced with stuff like body armor, greater numbers, animals, distance, or cover you may have problems with 9mm. It's worth considering the "overkill" because it still kills while "underkill" isn't actually a kill at all. Whether or not the tradeoffs associated with more kill are worth it is up to you. Most people find they are not.

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Is this a canteen inside of a mess kit, with the top of the mess kit flipped upsidedown and placed inside?

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Weird as fuck but does anyone know what symbol this is?

Would you trust two shots of 45 long colt from a $140 double barrel derringer to stop a rabid black bear?
Going hiking for health reasons and that's the biggest handgun I have other than my 9mm

>>33351128
Caldari hyper rebels.

Where do I buy hypalon material? I want to mock something up and see if I can sell the idea to a tacticool nylon company

>>33351157
I wouldn't really trust it to kill, but it's black bear, so the sound alone should make it fuck off.

>>33350219
I'd just get a new upper and keep the old one around for the extra option.

>>33349398
Fucking...
>>33349565
Derp...

Sorry for being so retarded, /k/. It does tend to happen from time to time.

>>33351128
Capsule Corp? Joking, of course.

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I want a mil surp style stock for my mossberg mvp. What do I need and how can i do it?
Pic related

>>33351157
If it's not .357 mag or better get spray.

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I want a .308 rifle. Is the .308 AR market mature enough or should I just buy a proven gun like a M14 or G3 copy?

Cabelas has the Ruger American rimfire 18in threaded barrel on sale for 299.99, plus the $20 coupon plus 5% discount would make it about $285 after tax. Would that be worth it compared to a Savage MkII? Savage makes some good, inexpensive shit, but the Ruger feels better in my arms, threaded barrel, plus adjustable LOP stock options.

>>33349358
>45
>cheap

If you want something cheap, get something cheap to feed it, which would be 9mm.

>>33351598
Modern AR10s are pretty fucking radical. Best option at every price point unless you want folding or telescoping stocks or find a used SCAR 17S.

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>>33351561
>What do I need and how can i do it?

You would have to have one custom-made for a proper fit.

>>33351598
>Is the .308 AR market mature enough
Yes. Alternatively, there's the Mk.17S.

>cousin selling his FAL.
>be in California but am moving before the end of the year.
Can I buy it from him in parts kit form (ie: he sells me everything except the receiver)? I don't plan on putting it together until I'm put of this state so all it's going to do is sit unassembled in a box without a reciever. Obviously I won't be able to take the magazines either since they're all 20 rounders.
I know cali got cucked over into having us registers 80% lowers once they were made but if I don't make anything, I should be in the clear, right?

Anybody know about buying knives in Canada?
I'm 18, do you need to be 19 to buy knives online?

>>33352175
Unless the ATF decides to fuck you on constructive possession you're golden. To be fair any AK and a shoelace can be an unregistered machinegun via constructive possession if they want it to.

>>33346273
start by killing yourself, Bubba

>>33346273
Take the hacksaw, apply to own neck and work in a sawing motion until death.

>>33351128
Looks like a diagram for a labyrinth seal.

>>33352175
>fal
>parts kit form
thats going to be a pain in the ass to reassemble if you trust him just give him money and claim it after youve moved

What happened to the /k/ discord?

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>>33351644
I said 45 or 9. Given how little I'd be shootin, 45, while more expensive, seems fine for my budget. Any platform recommendations?

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>>33352586
Redpill me on the chiappa 1892, can it take ruger only loads?

>>33347364
Since your learning disability is preventing you from noticing, Obama isn't president anymore, and gun prices are falling and will continue to fall without any threat of a ban from Trump.

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What would be the most common gun for a canadian frenchmen in the to 1850s? Were military pattern muskets common for civilians at the time in North America?

>>33353645
probably a single shot or double barrel shotgun. shotguns were the most popular gun in the american frontier so probably the same for you canuckcucks.

Just inherited a Remington 742 Woodmaster for my 23rd birthday. Anything I should know? It was my Grandpa's gun before he died. It's killed more deer between my grandpa, my uncle, and my dad than I will in my entire life.

>>33353748
makes sense, but what about single shot weapons?

I want to buy a gas mask so I can play post-apocalyptic make believe. Which ones won't give me cancer?

>>33353967
Just hollow out the cans.

>>33352586
Assuming you just buy whatever wally world has in stock before heading out to the range, The price difference will usually have you buying 1 box of 45, when you could be buying 2 boxes of 9mm for only slightly more. Your choice though.

Platform- 1911(underrated on k), GLAWK, S&W M&P(dat midsize), almost any quality gun in 9mm has a .45 version out there... be easier if you gave an indication of what you like in a gun

>>33349358
SP2022. No matter what Sig fags say it really is just a P226 but polymer. I saw them going for 400 somewhere on slick guns the other day.

>>33354014
I have one. It can be kind of hard to find holsters for them and you can't find aftermarket grips, so you're SOL if you don't like the standard sandpaper ones.

>>33353803
if you mean rifles/muskets then probably enfield m1853s or old surplus british or american muskets.

LGS has a 1950s or 60s Winchester 94 in decent shape with a good bore for $300. Get?

>>33354030
Funnily enough I know a guy who sandpapered the sandpaper ones down to a smoother finish, and if you fuck up it came with two just start with the one that you don't like. And as far as the holsters go it's gotten much much better. I personally own a an everyday holsters, galco and an alien gear for it.

>>33346273
>I want to saw off my nugget

Die in a fucking fire

>own 4 bolt action rifles
>been thinking about buying a semi-auto rifle with a smaller caliber

what is a good semi-auto rifle with a round that doesn't have insane recoil? so far I can think of an SKS, m1 carbine, hakim, ag-42.

are there any others?

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>>33347501
>Mossberg 590A1 if it matters.

Nn... yes and no. 870 fags are lucky in that they can short-stroke the pump and stuff the next shell back into the tube. Us Mossberg fags have to pop the shell out and surf it out to do a 'Combat' reload

Can somebody give me the screencap of the guy who moved his ship to get the sun off his face?

>>33347321
You sound like the kind of guy who's too scared to change the oil in his car himself because "i-i-it might blow'd up".

>>33353275
The president doesn't have any real effect on the supply and demand of a limited resource that hasn't been made for over half a century and has been getting chopped up by Bubbas for decades.

>>33354242
What's the use for the gun?

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>>33354253
>pop the shell out and surf it out to do a 'Combat' reload

>>33354501

strictly target shooting. I have a hard on for anything military from the 1900s-1960s/70s.

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>>33354520
Fine I'll explain it better.

>Oh shit, I need to load a slug right to the chamber!
>1. Pull the pump back so your next round ejects onto the elevator
>2. Flip/roll the gun in one strong, fluid motion to your right so that the shell on the elevator will roll along the inside of the receiver and out the ejection port.
>3. Shoulder the gun as normal and feed the new shell in
>4. Pump forward and fire

>>33354542
You could get an m16a1 repro or an ak? What's your budget.

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>>33354576
Well that sounds like it'll take some practice.
Thank you for explaining, kind anon, please forgive my retardation.

>>33354619

1 grand

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>>33354542
>SKS, m1 carbine, hakim, ag-42.
None of those are from the 60/70 though.

>>33355052
>None of those are from the 60/70 though.

I mean my upper limit for firearms tech is 60s/70s. anything below is fine. I just find shit from Vietnam and below to be interesting and cool and would love to own/shoot them.

Can someone give me a good bolt action rifle recommendation for 580-780 range?!

>>33355153

what are you looking for in your bolt action?

history? interesting mechanics? easy maintenance? plinking?

>>33346273
Rifle is fine, if you want a shorter nugget get a M38 or M44.

>>33355153
I've handled a tikka recently they're very smooth, but I haven't tried it at that range. If you're in it purely for range long range avoid 308. It's not bad there are far superior rounds for that, like 6.5 creedmore for example.

>>33355241
Well I've always wanted a k98 had trouble finding one. The other side is I want one to shoot at the range. Plinking

>>33355329
So instead of 308 should I look into 223? I've seen the cz 527 and Tikka t3>>33346273
>>>33355153
>I've handled a tikka recently they're very smooth, but I haven't tried it at that range. If you're in it purely for range long range avoid 308. It's not bad there are far superior rounds for that, like 6.5 creedmore for example.

>>33355405
I might have read that wrong, were you saying 600$ to 800$ or 600m to 800m? Either way, no I wasn't talking about .223.

>>33355416
600usd to 800 usd. Okay shooting. 308 looks pretty expensive

>>33346273
What should my next gun be? I have my SKS, live in New York (so NYSAFE), and don't want a shotgun/can't be arsed with a year waiting period for a pistol.

>>33355437
Wow a year waiting period!?

>>33355456
They push off approving them until legally required to or something like that.

>>33355393
>Well I've always wanted a k98 had trouble finding one

yeah a good k98 will be in the upper area of your range and will take some time.

you can always go for the long mauser from ww1 that crop up and people generally don't care for. they will go for between 300-500.

in terms of plinking mauser is harder to find in local stores but is easy to find online. I use prvi partizan. and generally speaking 8mm mauser is more expensive but it all comes down to relative cost. does $20 for 20 rounds dent your wallet?

here are some other options for rifles that are in or below your range and have similar ammunition costs:

steyr m95
lee-enfield
mosin-nagant
ross rifle
k31
Arisaka

there are many more that I am forgetting.

>>33355427
Yeah ok my bad, if you think 308 is expensive then yes, the 527 is a great choice.

>>33355482
I'm debating on either I just think 308 is pretty redundant to practice with.

Does anyone have that picture of that gray 1911 with the full-length dust cover?

Looking for it for a design example.

If a gun has lost most of its bluing, will any issues like rust or pitting come up easily if I don't refinish it? I kind of like the raw steel look and am also a lazy shit.

>>33354175
If pre-64 yes. If post 64 maybe.

>>33355561
The answer is maybe. If you keep it oiled well and out of the elements it'll be okay, but it's going to want to rust.

Unless it's a real collector piece, I would refinish. If it's modern tacticool shit, I'd cerakote the fuck out of it.

If hypothetically one were looking at going to fight with the Kurds, how would you set that up before leaving without your governemnt knowing and detaining you at the border?

>>33353772
>Remington 742 Woodmaster

Not the most accurate rifle in the world but they're just fine.

Replacement parts are a son of a bitch to find and pay for, so just don't abuse it.

>>33355713
It's a VZ24 I picked up the other day. I don't plan on taking it out much and plan to keep it maintained, but I'll look into refinishing anyway.
Are those liquid cold bluing bottles from Walmart and the like enough to stave off rusting or does it need to be professional work?

>>33355732
Can't you just get a flight to turkey or something, why would you get stopped at the border? Where are you from?

>>33355786
Take the advice from our Prophet Larry Potterfield

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrdESVrBA_Y

>>33355437
But yeah, any recommendations?

>>33355132
Not a fan of the CZ-75, Beretta 92, AKs-74u, FN P90, or G36? What about the Glock pistols?

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>>33356679

Should I be concerned about this "tarnish" on the front of my SKS? It's not dented or lumpy, and it feels perfectly smooth. From my test firing, it doesn't seem to harm the accuracy either. A friend of mine said it might have been bluing that has worn off.

>>33357359
Oh shit, you got gun rot anon. A pretty bad case.

All you can do is amputate the barrel and hope it doesn't spread to the rest of the rifle

>>33357359
I really don't know, buddy. Sorry. I suppose if you really want you could try using some steel-wool to smooth it out, but if it's not affecting accuracy then perhaps it doesn't hurt, as long as it doesn't spread.

>>33346273
How do I know if my compensator on my AR is pinned and welded?

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Do it faggot

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>>33359569

>early rifles
>spherical projectiles
Someone please explain to me the fucking magic that is going on.
Rotational inertia doesn't resist translational motion. Drag effectively produces even force on the projectile so there is no gyroscopic precession. And even if there was, the ballistics don't change because the projectile is a sphere.

What am I missing?

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Is GrabAGun a reliable seller?

I always see them as among the least expensive on sites like slickguns, but otherwise I've never heard of them.

>>33361486
Patches?

Is letting the slide slam on an empty chamber actually bad for the gun or is it just a meme?

>>33361523
>Is letting the slide slam on an empty chamber actually bad for the gun or is it just a meme?
The rule of thumb that works for 99.999% of cases is:
Only if it's an ancient rimfire.

It's a meme, unless you live in 1880.

>>33346273
>I want to saw off my nugget

Or you could just use the stock for firewood and throw the rest in the recycling bin.

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>>33346273
RIFLE
IS
FINE

>>33346273
I'm thinking about getting into reloading. I want to start with basic bitch Hornady XTP. Is there somewhere I can get the polymer tip that they put in the Critical Duty/Critical Defense ammo?

where the fuck can I buy a CZ 2075 RAMI?

What handguns would likely be used alongside "pre-war" walnut stock K31s by the Swiss military? I have a K31 and I want a handgun or revolver to match.

Also remember that the second you chop the barrel of that rifle, its resale value drops to effectively zero. That wasn't a big deal in the days of the $60 nugget, but those days are long gone. A year ago, it started getting hard to find them under $200. Six months ago, it got hard to find them under $250. Now it's hard to find them under $300. There's a trend happening here. If you don't like your Mosin, just sell it and buy something you do like instead of chopping it up.

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>>33361486
The rounds were wrapped in greased patches. The patches caught the rifling grooves and spun the ball.

>>33362933
>>33361513
But how does the spinning do anything if it's a sphere?

>>33364208
Do you understand basic physics?

How often, if ever do you buy guns just because they're rare or a great deal? Things you might have found interesting but just stumbled upon rather than being something you went out of your way to find.

>>33364407
That is pretty much the only thing I do.
I don't care for any modern-day shit, because you can pick those firearms up any day of the week.
I am interested solely in the antique, exotic, unique, etc.
When I was at my LGS, I spotted, out of the hundreds of guns they have, a Cobray Terminator. Now, Cobray firearms aren't anything special, but the Cobray Terminator has become rare since the ATF halted sales of the Terminator. It is an interesting firearm as it is a single shot open bolt shotgun. You read that correctly, it is a slam-fire shotgun. I want it just for its peculiarity.

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Are there any good things about the P08 Luger other than history and wehraboo aesthetics?

I saw one going for $1,100 and usually see them on Gunbroker for way higher than that. Is this a good price or are the GB listings just overpriced?

>>33364518
Well, other than aesthetics and history, it is comfy to shoot, a neat and interesting design, and chambered in 9x19mm. If you get a shooter-grade Luger, you can plink away all day. Or heck, use it as a CC.

Find a Mosin carbine. Problem solved

>>33364208
As long as it's spinning properly, meaning from the rifling that's gripped into the round, then it will provide stability. If it were rolling, say, perpendicular to the ground, or upside-down with the top going backwards and the bottom going forwards, or something like that, then you wouldn't get as much accuracy/stability. See, when a round ball is forced down into a rifled musket, it must cut through the teeth of the rifling. Whether it's cutting into the lead ball, or in an easier method, cutting mostly into the cloth of a patch or leather of a soft leather patch, it will still impart a spin on the projectile as it leaves the barrel.

>>33362933
In short, this. As for modern ammo, bullets are smaller than barrels. That's why 7.62 Nato uses .308 cal bullets, but the bore is only about .30 cal. Or .303 British has .303 cal bores, but uses .312 cal bullets. When the bullet is fired into the smaller hole, it creates a seal, and the rifling cuts into the metal jacket to force it to spin. The Minie Ball is also designed to create a seal with the rifling even though it's physically smaller than the bore of the firearm. Being smaller improves reload speed, but causing a gas seal improves accuracy. There's also more surface area for the rifling to bite into I think, but whether that actually improves accuracy or not I don't really know.

>>33364208
Anyways, if spinning a sphere did nothing, then the Baker Rifle of the early 19th century as well as the rifles that had been in use for a few hundred years prior wouldn't have been as effective as they were.

>>33364518

They've went up in recent years, but you can do better than $1100 if you want just a shooter.

Somewhat picky on ammo, can be difficult to work on, special snowflake guns for special snowflake people (which I used to be).

But you're talking to a guy who used to CC a Mauser Broomhandle just because I wanted to be special. And a Luger at one point. Now I CC a HK VP70 because i'm still a special snowflake on the inside

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>>33364516
I found a Beretta Elite I at an LGS the other day at what seemed like a good price and felt real tempted to buy it, even though I'm not particularly interested in Beretta 92s.
On one hand, they seem pretty rare and I liked everything about it, but on the other hand I worry it'll end up being a slippery slope and I'll slowly waste all my money on weird shit I wasn't really looking into before.

>>33354030
How about mags? I was thinking of getting one but saw that 226 mags were 50 bucks a pop at my LGS, which isnt usually too bad of a place to get mags since I got hi power mags for 15 each there.

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Is this a good price for an sks? Also is impact guns a good site to order from?

>>33365302
Yeah, that's a good price

>>33353995
Already laid most of it out here >>33349358

Don't really have plans to CC it, mostly looking for a HD piece that either
>has wood grips
>has decent aftermarket
>affordable
>made in the USA

>>33365302
It's such a bad price I can't even see it.

Assuming you're talking about the impactguns chink SKS listings, that's still a horrible price. You can find them well under $400 if you're patient.

>>33346273
does corrosive ammo offer that much more shelf life over it's non corrosive counterpart? is corrosive ammo still even produced and used in any modern military? can corrosive ammo still eat through a chrome lined bore?

>>33365414
Yes.
Swiss.
Dunno.

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>>33346273

Who makes the best CC holsters?

>>33365388
Alright appreciate the advice. Any other site that I should be looking at, or should I scout armslist and Gunbroker?

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Can my 5.56mm Norinco accept standard AKM folding stocks and polymer furniture? Have been thinking of upgrading the wood to something stronger.

>>33365428
The Swiss have never used corrosive primers in anything but the rimfire.

>>33365466
Fuck, I made a mistake, I thought he said "is non-corrosive ammo still even produced," sorry.

>>33365449
Armslist and Gunbroker are good starts, though you'll usually get cucked on Gunbroker because lol auctions, and lots of Armslist private sellers are flaky little shits.
Pawn shops and LGSes that sell used/consignment are surprisingly good places for finding cool shit, so give them a visit once in a while. You might find something you like at a good price if you're not an asshole.

Best way to sell my shotgun? Also what would be a good entry level o/u for clay sports

>>33346273

>close bolt
>run dowel down bore until dowl hits bolt (atf defines barrel length as where the bolt face is when its in battery)
>put mark where muzzle is
>put mark 16.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 inches from bottom of dowel

So what's the deal with 1911s and Glocks? Are they really only used by Fudds and Mall Ninjas respectively or is that contrarian nonsense?
Supplementary question; Are those high end custom 1911s actually good enough to justify their price tags? I see turbo Fudds talking about their Damascus steel slides and whatnot, is there any real benefit or is it like ivory grips?

>>33354242

A R - 1 5

>>33365302
Same as anon, but anybody know where to buy milsurp rifles in commiefornia?

i need some opinions here: i have a russian capture k98. its definitely shooter condition. i noticed a crack near just under the bolt release tab. the crack has now reached from the recoil lug to the back, near the tang and straight through the wood to the inside.
after some research, it seems this issue is due to a poor fit between the recoil lug and the receiver lug.
so my question is this: either bed the stock- something ive never done but willing to try (i.e. youtube gunsmithing)- or buy a replacement stock?
one consideration is k98 stocks are pricier than i thought they would be. i was thinking along the lines of $75 but they seem to be twice or even three times that price depending on condition.
how high are my chances of fucking up a rifle bedding job?

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Are folding stocks actually an important thing? I know some guys who write off all ARs because they can't be fired with the stock folded. I'm not particularly attached to the AR but the parts availability is unbeatable. I could probably go AK or snowflake if folding stocks are good. I just don't see it and they won't give me a straight answer.

>>33365451
they should, but you might need a little bit of modification.

>sconce
friend did it to his mak90

>>33365612
not really. i myself like guns with fixed stocks, but an adjustable stock is good too. the only issue with ar's is if the tube gets bent, or damaged, the gun won't cycle properly.

when is donald senpai gunna get rid of the norico and russia import bans on guns?

I want to put a scope on my mk3 enfield, but I don't want to drill and tap the receiver. Is this a good scope mount? From what I can tell, it just replaces the ejector screw and clamps down.
https://www.opticsplanet.com/sun-optics-smle-riflescope-mounts.html

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Does anyone know where i can get something like this for a Mak90? a friend of mine has a few he wants to put regular ak type stocks on. the old spacer thing he can find is one that lets you add a tube for a m4 style stock.

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Would an M1 carbine be good for defense against black bear?

>>33366963
It is not ideal anon. They are handy af though.

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Speaking of OP, someone's trying to sell this for $350 near me. Fuckin' bubba'd.

I remember seeing the latter half of a movie about a CIA -operative running the program to arm Afghan Mujahedin (one scene had him dealing with Israel and some Arab country to gather Soviet-made weapons to be sent to Afghanistan), I wonder what the movie was?

>>33367200
tears of the sun

>>33367343
>Navy SEAL in Nigeria instead of a CIA -operative in Afghanistan
sorry but no, looks interesting though

What is the best calibre for HD? I'm concerned about overpenetration hurting the neighbors.

>>33366976
Black bear isn't as big as brown bear, .30 Carbine has a decent amount of penetration, in terms of energy it shouldn't be too far off from 7.62x39, not to mention you have either 15 or 30 shots in semi-auto, so I'd say it's good enough. That's just me though.

M1 Carbine: 110gr @ 1990 ft/s
AKM: 123gr @ 2350 ft/s

I'd say it's acceptable. Not ideal, but acceptable. An SVT-40 would probably be the best since we're talking about self-defence rather than hunting. They see you, they're posing a threat, you need to take them down NOW and they might not be still enough to go for the heart so rapid-fire might be needed. SKS would be another decent alternative but I think the SVT would be better. If you don't mind having a firearm about 2lb heavier and has slightly lower capacity (7+1 vs a max of 10+1), then the M1 Rifle is also great of course.

>>33367368
20-gauge shotgun, if the intruder doesn't go down you are having just as bad day regardless of what you are armed with

>>33367381
Thanks. Hopefully I never have to use it.

Draco/M92 PAP AK pistol, or 7.62x39 AR 15 pistol?

The AR is cheaper, but the trade-off is magazine availability.

>>33367200
Charlie Wilson's War.

>>33367647
sounds familiar, thank you

If I purchased a fully auto SBR, would that be two separate tax stamps?

>>33367848
should be just one (for full retard), at least that's what I remember from another thread some time ago

Is it safe to shoot new production 30-06 from my 03A3 or should I just stick to surplus M2 ball? Im not sure what's fudd lore and what isn't when it comes to the 1903 or M1.

>>33368247
New production would be safe in an 1903. But stick to ball for an m1 garland because new production will bend your op rod if you haven't modified the rifle no any way.

>>33352476
>going to be a pain in the ass to reassemble

Will second this, if your cousin isn't a shitbird or you know someone who isn't a shitbird who can hold onto it for you go that route.

>>33367848
A registered machinegun receiver cannot be an SBR because it's not legally a rifle, it's a machinegun.
However, a host for a registered auto sear can be a SBR if the sear is not installed while the short barrel is.

>>33368457
Dope, thank you!

>>33367806
I don't know if you enjoy drinking to movies, but if you do, be careful with Charlie Wilson's War. There's a surprising amount of occasions in which to drink with that film, might even rival the movie Barfly. My liver hates that movie, but I love it. I basically only watch it when I intend to get drunk.

>>33368781
one of my favorite pastimes is to take a bottle of vodka out of the freezer and watch a movie or two while drinking.

>>33368830
You... I like you. I like you a lot. I'm more into rum but vodka is a nice 2nd, whiskey being a slightly more distant 3rd but they're all enjoyable. Master and Commander is a great drinking movie though I'd go with half-ounce (15ml or so) shots. Withnail & I is another great drinking movie however again, half-ounce would be best, and personally I only drink to Withnail. I guess for nightmare mode you can drink when anyone at all drinks. Seriously though, Barfly is almost impossible with straight liquor. Maybe at best if you're just sipping at beer or at a mixed drink, you can manage it. If you ever feel like REALLY testing yourself, try the Legend of the Drunken Master Challenge. Watch Legend of the Drunken Master (Drunken Master II) without pausing, and drink everytime Jackie Chan does. It's about 14 occasions to drink in 55 minutes. So if you want to polish off half a 26oz/750ml bottle of liquor in less than an hour, there you go. I managed not to puke, though had a pretty bad night's sleep.

>>33361505
Bump for this question

>>33361505
Yes. I bought my first gun from them and it got to my FFL literally the next day (from Texas to IL)

They've had great customer service as well when I had to change an order I placed

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what's the deal with DSA's voyager line, and I guess the FAL platform in general?

Is it worth the 1k? It seems like it is, but at the same time I don't know if it's possible to just buy a receiver from them and get a parts kit and have the same thing cheaper.

What's the deal with steel case? The website says it's strictly verboten, then again random aholes online claim to run steel ammo all day everyday with no issues.

For that matter, how does it stack up against the PTR91 series in cost of ownership/the rifle itself? I'm open to a G3 pattern rifle, but honestly, I'd prefer the big Belgian gommie killer.

and a side note, which shorts would look best with flecktarn/odg gear?

>>33369128
I don't usually drink quite that much in that short period of time, I usually drink about that much in an evening because I prefer drinking at a constant rate over the whole evening, rum goes nicely with coke & two or three glasses of scotch every now and then isn't bad either (for some reason scotch is so far the only drink that has managed to knock me off my feet & it gives me a heartburn so I don't drink it that often), but mostly I drink vodka and/or grapefruit Long Drink (a Finnish specialty sold and drank like beer or cider, it's effectively carbonated lemonade with 3.5 to 5.5% alc.vol. added)

>>33361505
yes, legit.

>>33346273

Cut wooden dowel to 16.5", to be safe, close bolt, insert dowel, cut off barrel

>>33369959
>The website says it's strictly verboten
where does it say that? link?

>>33369997
https://www.dsarms.com/t-ammunitionwarning.aspx

Went to the range to shoot handguns with my buddies for the first time. Really enjoyed it, fell in love with the revolver we rented.
What is a cheap but decent revolver for beginners? What is the least I can expect to spend?
>Hard mode: Commiefornia

or you could just buy a M39 or a M44 carbine

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>>33370069
this graphic is from the /k/ sticky, I suggest reading it if you're new to guns in general

>>33369967
Fair enough, to each their own. Though I love rum, I think my favourite drink just might be absinthe. Typically not with sugar though. Still, rum and absinthe are just about tied. Once or twice I got drunk off of straight Bacardi 151. Watched The Rum Diaries as I did so. It was an intense night, but thankfully I didn't get sick. Bacardi 151 is 151 Proof, meaning 75.5%. Yeah, fucking intense... probably only took like 12oz to do me in, maybe even just 11oz. I think the next day was one of the rare occasions when I actually had a bit of a hang over. Normally I'm good at preventing them with good application of water and food.

>>33370113
Oh, sorry.

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>>33370135
nah it's fine, there are probably 1 or 2 threads a day asking "WHAT FIRST GUN SHOULD I GET"

at least you asked in here

>>33370036
it just says not recommended. its probably just a bunch of shitty ammo that may not be optimum to function

>>33370225
that's what I was thinking, I mean the thing has an adjustable gas system, how could it not function with practically everything?

One forum poster claimed that it was due to some of them being shipped with non chrome lined barrels, but zastava doesn't chrome most of their shit and I'm sure they run steel case all day

I wanted to ask /brg/, but it seems that they've fallen off the board at some point as I couldn't find any of their threads in the archive

SC fag here. Just got a beautiful 1937 Tula Mosin with a new case and $100 worth of ammo for $175 (Making the Mosin by itself $55.) How did I do?

>>33365543
implying that accurate of a measurement tool exists

Is it possible to take apart a cartridge in order to obtain the gunpowder inside?

If yes, what tools are needed and which cartridge would yield the most powder?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/30-pcs-New-Lower-Parts-kit-223-5-56-LPK-no-trig-guard-31-pieces-Free-Shipping/332153103584

Is this trigger fine? I got one recently, and although I appreciate it, Gun parts from ebay is off putting to me.

>>33349358
Isn't the 92fs just made for you?

>>33372042
if you dont mind being a barbarian you could just use a sumple hacksaw right below where the bullet sits. If your opening a shotgun shell you can simply pop the top open.

How do I clean my multicam friends, shit's gotten really dirty from me wearing them playing cod 4

Do I just wash them in cold water or is there any soap that's okay for them