Milsurp Sunday

Lets not have another shitty general full of the exact same pictures over and over again, you fucking faggots.

>>33207411
what are those?

>>33207433
what is that?

>>33207502
What is this?

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>>33207507
How about...no.

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>>33207542
>what are those?
A French Mle. 1949/56 and a French Mle. 1936 pre-armistice made rifle.
>what is that?
It's a Type 99 long rifle. Not the common short rifle.
>What is this?
It's a French Mousqueton de Artillerie Modèle 1892 Modifié 1916. A Berthier.

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>>33207411
>AR-15s are for buttfucking plebeian faggots.
That is true.

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>>33207507
The fuck do you think you are?
Also, MSG is never shitty.

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>>33207411
>AR-15s are for buttfucking plebeian faggots.
dlet that

>>33207936
Give me your svt

>>33207962
Give me $8000 or a M27 Lebel.

>>33207507
only sane reply here

What rifle should i picl up for nationalmatch? I kind of want either a 1903 or a 1917.

Why does it seem like us milsurp is so much more expensive in the us? Is the demand just that much higher?

>>33208089
Yes, it is much higher. No one will fault you for wanting to own a 1903 but if you want, say, a Mosin or a Mannlicher, there will be much greater criticism because hurr durr go murrica.

>>33207411
Anyone know if these are available in Canada?

>>33208168
The 36 is, don't think the 49 is though.

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I've been thinking about getting a millsurp rifle and wanted to know if getting a Steyr M95 would be a bad idea.

>>33209110
Ammo availability

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>>33207433
>>33207552
Impressive, how much did that set you back?

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Yugoslav with yugo munitions reporting in

>>33209156
Took a look at the ammo, the price fluctuates a bit.
But it seems to be about 1.20-1.30 a round.
If it's available at all.

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>>33207411

>>33209110
my buddy has a carbine re chambered in 8mm Mauser, it shoots 3 foot fireballs. fucking great gun

They both are but the 49 is expensive and much harder to find

>>33209110
Had a perfect one recently slip thru my fingers. Ammo aint too bad where im at so its double painful

git it and dotn let go

How are yugo mausers for milsurp shooters? I have the ability to reload also

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>>33209405
>How are yugo mausers for milsurp shooters?
Good.

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>>33209405
If you can reload everything is a shooter.

As to the Yugo Mauser though, I guess they're alright. If you like Mausers.

>>33209279
What version of it did you try to go for?
There are a few and some have more plentiful ammo then others.

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>>33207507

I sold the T53, decided to not buy a M39 since I have an Auto-Nugget

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>>33208168
Canuckistani here, ive seen the occasional MAS 36 for sale but theyre always way over priced (like berthiers)

Got offered a non numbers matching k98 for $400. good deal?

>>33209876

As a shooter sure, especially if the Nazi stamps haven't been removed or defaced.

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>>33209876
>good deal?
If it hasn't been Bubba'ed, pimp-shined, or had its markings defaced then yes.

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>>33209168
One Type 99 long (the Toyo Kogyo) cost me $410 plus shipping and the other (the Nagoya Arsenal) was a trade. I traded a gun I got for like $300, but was worth probably more than twice that.

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>>33210007
641st Type 99 made by Nagoya Arsenal. ;^^^)

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>>33210000
Someone took a screwdriver to my Israeli 98 at some point.

Noice get

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>>33210007
Damn I saw a Type 99 long at a gun show a few weeks back for $235; mismatched, ground mum, missing dust cover, monopod, cleaning rod, and aa sights.

Did I dunn goof not buying it?

>>33210217
>>33210017
>>33210007
kys gun weebs

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>>33210217
Eh, 225 sounds fair but if you want those features you're gonna have to pay. I'd have passed it up myself.

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>>33210217
That's the typical price in that condition.

>>33210217

Depending on the amount of defacement, "probably".

But you'll get over it.

Just like the unground, W/ dust-cover 44'Shiki I missed, or the no1Mk5 Enflield I passed up .

Both, under $100.00.

But then you find gems.

Like a new in box Armalite AR-7. A real Armalite.For 50.00.

Or an Irish Army stamped SMLE with Bayonet for under $ 100.00.

Or a case of Czech 9X19 SMG/AP, for $ 25.00.

Stuff is still out there.

>>33209110
Ammo is spendy but if you reload it's not bad. If you don't reload, sell your brass, because there people out there like me who desperately want it. And clips are usually like $5 apiece depending on where you buy them. I have like 70 of them that I got for a really good price, I just need to finish cleaning them all up.

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There are no milsurp matches near me. I really wanted to try out my m1917 or m39 in a match. No real organized shooting events at all honestly.

>>33207807
Gah I want an M91. The auction I went to last week, one went for $150, but the bore was ROUGH. could see rust down the muzzle. I thought about creeping it a little higher but I didn't wanna buy it, clean it and have it be a total bust.

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>>33210319
Why did you pass up those?

>>33210341
I feel ya. I'd love to do some for fun, but there's none in my state as far as I know. That's one of the drawbacks of living in the rural Midwest.

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>>33210341
Same here. I want win with my Mas or my Mannlicher.

>>33207411

but what if its a milsurp M16A1?

>>33210405
Doesn't exist. Also it's be a M16, not an AR.

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>>33210104
Might have been to cancel out the 8x57 firing proof when it was superseded by the 7.62NATO firing proof.

>>33210343
>but the bore was ROUGH. could see rust down the muzzle. I thought about creeping it a little higher but I didn't wanna buy it, clean it and have it be a total bust.
Sometimes you just gotta roll them bones to get what you want, Anon. <$200 is a crazy good deal for any M91 but a totally-scrubbed mismatched Balkan. Take pic related for instance: it has an absolutely rotten bore and it'll never be a shooter even if I repair the cracks in the stock, but goddamn if it isn't the Mauser-est Mauser-brand-Mauser I lusted after for years.

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>yes I know the dogtag is upside down

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>>33207411
The gun isn't Milsurp but the scope is.

Someone sell me a dragunov.

Will a water based solvent be enough to clean up after shooting corrosive ammo or do I still need to use water itself?

>>33211101

>that pistol

isn't that the pistol where if you press on the sear it will fire a round?

>>33207411

your magazine has a clip on it.

>>33210422
I saw a Milsurp m16a1 at auction 6 years ago. Sold for $15000.

>>33211125
No. You're thinking of the Type 94, and that shit is overstated.

>>33211016
I really thought about it, I thought I had it then a late bidder snuck in. I spent just over $500 that day and got some great deals regardless, but I might kick myself for not keeping going on that one. Also there was a kinda stripped K43, needed a stock and a magazine, that a guy and i bid up to $300 when I stopped. Woulda been awesome to have but I didn't really wanna spend close to $1000 total that day.

So I guess I'll ask here, but what is the difference between a St. Petersburg Cavarly Carbine and a 1907 Carbine?

>>33211371
These carbines [St. Petersburg Cavalry Carbine] are usually called 1907 Cavarly School carbines, simply because are carbines but have nothing to do with the true 1907 model.

These carbines were obtained from m91 infantry rifles, converted after the first world war. These have a unique design and only the rear sight is from the 1907 model. All the parts are from m91 rifles except the bayonet scabbard and the barrel bands.


????????????

http://7.62x54r.net/Forums/index.php?topic=12432.0

>>33211439
So, if I'm reading this correctly, the Cavalry school carbines are converted M91 rifles and basically nothing like the 1907 carbines?

Besides a damp rag, what else should I use to clean my rifle's wood.

Also would furniture polish like Pledge be harmful?

>>33211371
>but what is the difference between a St. Petersburg Cavarly Carbine and a 1907 Carbine?
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?257364-1913-St-Petersburg-Cavalry-School-Carbine-with-original-Imperial-markings
>TL;DR: no handguard, shorter stock, barrel muzzle stepped down for mounting socket of folding (Gulkevich?) bayonet, steel scabbard for tip of folding bayonet, metal sling loops on right side of stock and barrel band

>>33211486
I think that's what he was saying. I just searched it now.

Hate it when things like this happens. It complicates catching them all :^)

>>33211512
use simple green & hot water with a pot scrubber

>>33211556
Indeed.
>>33211536
I need a Mosin book.

>>33211512
>Besides a damp rag, what else should I use to clean my rifle's wood.
Just that, or nothing.

>Also would furniture polish like Pledge be harmful?
Very. Those have silicone in it and it'll make the stock shiny and sticky.

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>>33210249
No you

I have felt the need for an enfield in my life, what's a good price for one that isnt a jungle carbine?

>>33212369
$400-2500, depending on model and a bunch of shit. But more realistically the upper limit is $600.

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Heres a bad pic of my m39. Its the only milsurp ive got on hand but i also own a irish contract no4mkII and a 1873 trapdoor

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>>33209190
How do you like the surplus Yugo 8mm? I just got a case in and plan to blow through some tomorrow.

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>>33211620
Just spend more time on gunboards they know their shit
>tfw getting bored of PU

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I wanna get better at taking pictures, but I lack the creativity. What are some tips, aside from "use natural light" and "get a better camera"

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>>33207411
nahhhh

>>33212632
Yes but I am a hipster and collect books.

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>>33212676
Play around, you might find a good angle just by accident.

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>>33212676
Take a shitload of pictures from every angle.

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>>33212903
>>33212850
I've been playing around with some different angles when I get the chance. And even at the range. What about backgrounds or staging and general positions

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i like the cheap red shit.

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>>33213198
ugh. my photo still needs an auto nugget.

maybe next year

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>>33212966
Simpler backgrounds seem to work best. Not flat or monotone but something that contrasts the subject of the image.

Or something; they wouldn't let me take photography in college.

>>33207411
milsurps are for roleplayers/poorfags/ww2 autists(read:faggots), and farmhands

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>>33213236
ooooo very nice

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>>33213228
All that money and no SVT? For shame...

(Says the trip who still doesn't have even a Russian capture k98k).

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>>33213272
I went 3 years without taking new pictures of this.

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I kinda want a M48 or a Turk Mauser, anyone got any input on which would be better as a semi-accurate shooter. The condition of the rifle does not matter as long as it does not affect performance.

Also I might be selling pic related to pick up an Ishapore Enfield for the same reasons as the Mausers.

Just got an Ishapore 2A1 Lee Enfield feels good mang

>>33213293
Here's the thing about milsurp chief; generally speaking it's all gonna be same accuracy wise. 2-4 MOA, with ammo that is similar to what was issued at the time. Some will do much better, some much worse. But for the most part that's what you're looking at.

So keeping that in mind, pick the one you think is cooler.

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>>33213293
I think you stand a better chance of getting a Yugo in good condition, and therefore a better shooter. My best-shooting Mauser is Turkish though.

>>33213320
Where at? How much mane?

>>33213322
>chief
Was gonna say something witty about this but you got tri-dubs

Alright I'll go with the Yugo then.

>>33213343
Yea that's what I have been seeing. I guess I should have asked is which is a better shooter for their lowest price? Also I feel like if I dropped a Turk Mauser I would feel heart broken where as the Yugo I wouldn't care as long as it didn't fuck up the sights.

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>>33213415
>I feel like if I dropped a Turk Mauser I would feel heart broken
Lol what?

Where to get mauser?

>>33213442
That I would damage it. The M48 I would kinda go "oups" and get on with my day.

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>>33213285
I waited too long on SVTs, and refused (technically still refuse) to pay more than $900 for one.

They were plateau'd as $800 guns for 10 fucking years. I got complacent.

I told my collect buddies (local) that I would pay up on any of theirs' (they each have several), but none of them are selling at the moment.

Although I think at this point if Im going to overpay for something, I would rather get an AG42.

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>>33213290
I dont blame you

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>>33213444
Oberndorf.

>>33213460
>That I would damage it.
You're not gonna break it just by dropping it. I had to slam the butt of my M38 on concrete a few times before I cracked the stock at the wrist.

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>>33213444
sweden

>>33213484
I'm not saying break it, just IF it was dropped I would feel bad dropping a Turk Mauser whereas the M48 I would go "oups" and move on.

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>>33213461
Yeah every few months I start getting Ljungman pangs...and then I find something obscure that actually went to war instead.

>buying cuck state rifles
>unironically
It's like you want to be cucked

>>33213228
What's that bottom one? She's pretty.

>>33212586
It's excellent and gets the job done. I'd highly recommend it. Did you get the crate like mine or a bunch of white boxes of 15rd m75?

>>33213602

Johnson rifle

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>>33213711
Bunch of loose white boxes.

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>>33213602
M1941 Johnson Rifle

a fuckin hoot and a half to shoot.

>>33213803
I'm not sure if it's normal for this to happen or not, but clean your gun every time you finish firing the rounds. I get an unusually large amount of carbon buildup. Also what year are your bullets? I've got nothing except 1999's. I'm guessing my cratw was sold after the kosovo war

>>33213784
>>33213822
Thanks guys.

>>33213830
The only box I've opened is head stamped 1999 so I'm assuming they all are. If it's anything like any other Serbian or Yugo ammo it's bound to be dirty.

>>33213858
Yup, if you have one box of 99's it's safe to assume that the rest are the same. I read somewhere online that older ammo (pre 99) was corrosive, whereas the "newer" stuff wasn't corrosive. I think you're right though, it's probably corrosive.

Do you have any distinctive marks on your gun? When I took mine apart I had the number "36" burned into the underside of the wooden upper receiver. Aside from that my gun is mostly in tact.

>>33213884
It's got some stamps on the outside of the stock and some neat looking tool marks on the inside of the floor plate but it's clean other than that.

>>33213906
Nice. Well, happy shooting!

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>>33213924
Thanks man

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el bumpo

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>>33209168
Hans, get the luger

>>33210217
no, thats a very normal price for a rifle with condition you described

>>33211124
i use just plain water on patches for a couple runs through and then just regular gun cleaner/solvent/oil/elixer of your choice after that. never had any rust or problems, the corrosive meme is overstated. probably depends a lot on where you live and store gun though. if you live in a humid location like a jungle its probably a bigger issue

>>33212440
i like that quilt

>>33212850
>1895 russian contract
Perfect for my influx of 54R. Can't find any around here and unsure of price range for regular beater.

>>33208168
Yes, I saw a Mas 49 at a gunshow yesterday (in Ontario)

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Picked up a new m95/30 for 285
How'd I do?

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>soon

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>>33209561
Sorry for the EXTREMELY late reply but my ass was on fire for the past few days thanks to everyones fave, food poisoning. But ill be damned if a question to my post stays unanswered

Anyway it was a Styer carbine all matching numbahs. I'd def prefer a carbine cause most everything else I have are long rifles and I wanna try and get into carbines and cavalry guns. It was the S marked 8x57 conversion and theres plenty of that and the enblocs at some of the old fudd stores around me

>>33215789
I'm assuming you meant 8x56, unless you got lucky enough for some idiot to take it to a gunsmith and have it converted AGAIN.
The s means it fires 8x56 and not 8x50 as it was originally meant to.

>>33215836
yea that 8x56mmR. whichever was the post WW1 factory conversion they did.

like I said, im lacking a whole lotta fluids right now. brain dont work too good.

>>33215675
Are you the anon with the FR-8?

>>33214934
2000+. Wouldn't recommend surplus ammo in them either, they're a bitch to clean.

>tfw passed up on a nugget w/bayo and free cosmoline at christmas for 300 bucks
Did I make a mistake? People say that 91/30s are going up and not gonna come back down, and I don't actually have one.

>>33216383
Dunno I bought one for $99 and I wouldn't have paid a whole lot more than that. It's a huge impractical inaccurate grease covered commie turd.

>>33215597
How is it?
I've been thinking about getting one myself.

>>33216255
I mean, I had an fr8 that I sold. Been doing some significant downsizing on milsurp. Still looking to sell, just can't find any local buyers.

>>33216383
300 is too much for a basic bitch 91/30.

>>33216542
It's a very nice feel, the sights are highly optimistic and the round is stout as shit.
However, it's a very fun an unique gun capable of hunting the northern continent

>>33214792
Thanks, its one of my favorites. Ive got a bunch of nice quilts my mom and grandma made me over the years.

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Yugoslavian M24/47
$300

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>>33216383
That's a bit high today but they're gonna be 500+ in a few years so...

>>33217133
>$500+ in a few years
More than a few m8.

>>33217356
Well 5 years ago they were $150ish, now they're $280ish. So 5 years from now, I don't think $500ish is unreasonable to expect.

>see a Remington M1903 rifle at my local fun store
>only 1,009 bucks
>could buy it then and there
>wouldn't have money to cover bills or rent
>tfw its always this conundrum

I'm a richfag in a poorfags body

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>>33217356
Well most are going for $225-$300 so I can see them being ~$500 in maybe ten years. It may be sooner but probably not

>>33217444
People are asking $300, but they aren't getting that.

>>33217427
If a basic bitch 91/30 is $500 in 5 years I better be able to get 3 grand for my PU.

>>33217637
Lots of people are buying online at $279 or more, not counting the dolts who overpay on gunbroker. One LGS sold at least 3 for $300 at the beginning of the year.

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>>33217427
They may have been undervalued at $100, but that doesn't mean they'll hit $500 for a typical one. Staying around $300 is sustainable, but not $500. At $300 you get the collectors and less bubbas. At $100 you were getting everybody, at $500 not even most collectors will touch them.

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>>33217705
We'll see, but if K31s and M39s are any indication they'll shoot up in the next few years.

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>>33217777
The difference is, most K31s are worth it

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>>33217777
>>33217705
We'll just have to see. There were about 100K m/39s produced; about 500K K31s produced, and ~20 million M91/30s produced. If only 5% of them survived that still dwarfs the number of extant m/39s and K31s.

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>>33207411
>being an exclusive shitlord and not owning multiples of both

>>33218003
What happened to that enfield

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>>33218039
bought it like this

>>33218039
Some of them were made that way with the stocks left to the original blonde color.

>>33217777
But both of those are better and were made in less numbers, both physically and imported.

>>33209271
>>33208210
>>33209859
>>33215413
I've googled long and hard but can't find anything. Links?

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>>33218162
Maybe try checking your LGS? I found this Syrian contract one at mine.

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>>33218187
the full mas 36 type stock looks so much better than the standard cut down 49 stock

>>33218187
>LGS
I assume that's local gun store? I have and no luck so far.

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>>33218283
>not liking the grenade launcher

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>>33218470
>stop posting these beauties that I can't have.

>>33218470
Is this one chambered in 8mm French? Does anyone still make ammunition for them?

>>33218470
MAS 49s also have grenade launchers

>>33218541
7.5 French

>>33218470
>implying you need a cut down stock for a grenade launching attachment

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>>33218575

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>>33218641

>>33218653
>>33218641
>>33218630
>>33218621
We usually only post milsurp we actually own in these threads.

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>>33218653

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>>33218003
Ayyy.

I need better pics of these two together.

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>>33218671
>>33218670
Lol

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>>33218560
>MAS 49s also have grenade launchers
Yeah, but those are shitty and you can't put the cool nightsight on them.

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>>33218697
>>33218630
Someone else with a Stop! Mine has a missing ejector and the extractor is broken (probably from being fired without the ejector) A total shame because mine is pretty much the best looking one I have ever seen before. :(

Also, they're "fun" to take apart.

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>>33218697

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>>33218680
shame they didnt use the no9 bayo until after ww2, the mkI and mkII bayos are so pitiful

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>>33218799
Damn dude! There was a parts Stop on GunBroker that went for like $150. Take a look at Numrich Gun Parts. Maybe they've got parts for you.

Sorry to hear that bro

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>>33218842
>the mkI and mkII bayos are so pitiful
But so cheap.

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>>33218854
thats a real nice smle

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>>33208089
I have both. The m1917 is better for targets. It's barrel is thicc, sights are great despite being non windage adjustable, and cock on close is better for rapid fire. The m1903 is nice but... it's just missing some things.

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>>33218777
Yes but the 49/56 is ugly. That's the reason I waited so long to get one (well, search for one. Still haven't gotten it yet).

I miss my Mas 49....

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>>33218845
Numrich and Marstar have both been sold out for YEARS. They probably both only had a gun they stripped for parts. To be honest, it'll be cheaper to just find another one that has the parts and shoot it.

Also, mine is weird that it's undated, but was made before Franz Joseph died in 1916 and they switched to having both the Hungarian and Austian crests.

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>>33218842
Yeah. Thanks for talking me into the No. 9. I feel like it suits the 1/2 better. Does anyone make a screwdriver for the front sight screw? Or should I carve up a cheap Walmart screwdriver? I need to drift my front sight.

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>>33210341
My m39 was ok in the NRA match I went to. I got an award for most handicapped rifle

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>>33218873
It's actually bubba'ed; the stock is covered in some amber-tinted polyurethane.

>>33218916
get this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ELBY-Lee-Enfield-4-front-sight-adjusting-tool-set-FREE-SHIPPING-/292032908631?hash=item43fe848d57:g:tvYAAOSwSclXLmNv

I have one, its actually superb

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>>33218878
>I miss my Mas 49....
Why'd you sell it? I need a 49, and not a Syrian.

>>33218930
thats too bad, looked like just real nice linseed coats

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>>33218905
Interesting. The only time I knew that the date was removed was late 1922. I really recommend buying a new one while GB even has any

>>33217090
great gun

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>>33218957
>>33218845
>>33218819

>>33218947
I didnt. I loaned it out to a buddy who wanted it for a book he is writing. Supposed to get it back by the end of the year at the latest. Apparently mine is very rare here in the states because it has the grenade launcher welded shut.

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>>33218975

>>33218943
Awesome, just bought it.

>>33217427
they were also like $60 for 30 years from the 70s to early 2000s. there are a lot of them and i think once the boomers die off in 20 years the market will be flooded with surplus

i think they were initially just incredibly undervalued. lack of available ammo kept them down there, and lots of factors increased popularity the last decade including video games for the millenial generation and popularity with preppers during the obama catastrophe of 2008-2016.
considering you can buy brand new 308 hunting rifles for about $300 today, it makes sense that they have caught up to that price point, and my guess is they wont go too much higher

>>33217428
lol i know the feeling. what i do is buy anyway, then somehow the pressure always forces me to find the money somehow. sell off some old shit you dont need and pick up a couple of odd jobs or just get lucky and have this happen during a birthday month when you get bday money

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>>33218957
I contacted the guy that does hungariae.com and he said he's seen a few that's undated, but never one that has the crest rotated. That may be the reason why it's undated, as if there wasn't enough room, but I want to say the date was part of the same stamp?

I'm not that afraid of them disappearing anytime soon.

>>33218982
I wouldn't say they are rare by any means. They just did that during refurb and they ran out of the grenade launching parts. They stopped using the 48mm grenades by then anyways. And it wasn't a good launcher either.

>>33217777
those are better rifles objectively, and were also undervalued. i still think k31s are undervalued, will probably go up to 800 in a couple years

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>>33219056
>there are a lot of them and i think once the boomers die off in 20 years the market will be flooded with surplus
Sort of, but not really. To really flood the market a lot has to die off at once. There is also a lot more gun owners now.

>>33219088
Well they only made what, 20k of the 49? And not that many made it into the states. And of those that did, at least in my experience, only 1 other that I've seen has had the launcher plugged.

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>>33218697
>>33218799
>
>hammertime

>>33219199
I've heard that, but I think there was more made.

>Persian mausers for $700

Ugh... I just bought a K31 and haven't even shot it yet.

Why didn't I get into surplus sooner? I feel like time is running out for me and if I don't buy all this shit at once I'll never get the chance again.

I've got an m/96, a yugo SKS and now muh K31. I'd love a mosin but I'd feel dumb paying $300

>>33219294
I haven't seen anything to indicate that, though I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination.

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>>33218630
Oh, something happened with that pic. Here's a larger res if anyone cares for it.

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>>33219088
Well, to be truthful, one of the reasons I bought mine was because of BF1. I imagine a number of folks might be doing the same.

In fact, I think they're going up in price. The last one I saw sold for $500 and I know they've been selling for $250 just a number of years ago

>>33219501
What ammo do you use in yours?

I do light loads in mine and hand cycle to avoid breaking the extractor and ending up like >>33219088

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>>33219611
I've been shooting Fiocchi 73gr out of it; never had a problem. Wasn't 7.65 Frommer loaded hotter than what we got here in the states, though?

>>33219711
Yes, 7.65 Frommer is hotter than .32ACP. It's probably wise to use heavier loads.

>>33213198
Are you a garbage collector professionally, or is it just a hobby?

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>>33209110
German 8x56 is all over the place at gunshows in my area. when chronoing the rifle it was shooting 2600fps with this ammunition but one round had a lot more recoil and was audibly much louder, reading 3474 fps

>>33219312

buy them private party or shop around more, there are still plenty to be had for $150 . guy near me was selilng one for $120 not that long ago. didnt buy because not interested in them

>>33219826
>yfw slave labor trying to sabotage german rifles kills you with an overcharged round in 2017

>>33219875
That ammo was made prewar.

wtf

Is it difficult to get a c&r?

>>33220910
No, just somewhat tedious, mostly because waiting for the ATF approval takes them forever.

>>33221102
I got my renewal last year in like a month.

>>33221373
Took me like 3 months last time I renewed. That was in 2013 though.

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>>33207411
Thinking about getting and Arisaka
Local gun store has some mosins, mausers and arisakas out, already got a 91/30, the mausers seem a tad over priced but the arisakas look nice
Should I go get one tomorrow?
Haven't seen them mentioned much...

>>33209168
PA?

Think I met you.

>>33223986
Do you reload? If not, do you like spending $1.50/rnd or more?

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hello

>>33219826
What area is that?
I can only get the stuff online where I'm from.

>>33224206
Lol a fucking shop near me was trying to sell 7.7 Jap for fucking 50 something for a box of 20

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it doesn't have one of those gross [SA] stamps

>>33224580
Nice SCW

What should i pick up next? Im thinking a k31 because they shot up in price over the last couple of years and dont see them getting any cheaper, but i think thats how a lot of milsurp is going.
T38 is pretty cool too i think, ross rifles barely exist, and im not really interested in mausers. I think i can swing $1000 or so towards my next purchase

>>33224486
That's a bit much but not too unusual honestly. Unless you like spending a lot of money, Arisakas are a reloaders only kind of gun. This statement applies to many milsurp rifles actually.

>>33224803
K31s are neat. I think they're overhyped but I am a hipster even among other hipsters. Have you thought about something French?

>>33207411
Is it bubbaing to swap stocks in order to keep the original stock pristine, but still be able to glass bed and so forth? It's fully reversible, isn't it?

>>33224911
Nah, i cant say ive given much thought to the french. I havent ruled anything out yet though.

Theres this one swissguy on here who dressed up his k31 with a nice sling and leather cheekpad, ive wanted one ever since. I think straightpull has a pretty high novelty factor as well.


I plan on buying dies for whatever i pick eitherway.

>>33208017
The fuck is up with the M27 Lebel

Is it possible to buy an Ishapore 2a1 magazine for less than 50 dollars?

>>33224672
>SCW

Why the fuck do people try to collect by likely import origin? There's no proof that Spain was the origin for this rifle, though there is a good chance. Some rifles like this having come from Spain doesn't make a rifle with zero Spanish provenance "an SCW."

>>33225012
They need to find a reason to distinguish their run of the mill, overpriced autistic shit guns from other run of the mill, overpriced autistic shit guns.

>>33224992
It's a Lebel converted to 7.5 French. Being a Frankaboo, I have a mighty need to obtain one.
>>33224958
Again, Frankaboo here, but give a Mas 36 or Lebel a look. Lots of fun, even if you don't agree with my statements about the Mas 36 being the best infantry bolt action rifle ever made.

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>>33225025
>>33225032
New gun, m8ty?

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Unfortunately the bolt is a MM. It is from an Izhevsk rifle from about the same period of production however.

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>>33224427
ohio

>>33225061
Il give them a look. Anything i should knlw about them before i start looking? Decent price/condition, flaws, ect.

Im assuming online will be the best place to find them

>>33225056

There's plenty of legit reasons to do that without making up stories about the rifle. For example, apart from the bolt, this rifle is a factory original Panshin M91/30 produced by Tula. Fairly hard to come by. Especially without any non-Soviet markings.

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>>33225064

I've had it for about 3 years IIRC. Got it for cheap from a poorly advertised online auction.

>>33225082
For the Mas 36 the big distinction is between pre-armistice and post war, usually refurbed. The latter are more common and thus worth significantly less ($500 tops). They're easy to spot because the metal will be parkarized, and the front sight will have a globe instead of wings. The pre-armistice rifles have a black lacquer paint and can go for over $800, depending on how well they're matched.

Lebels...well they have a very long life so I can't tell you everything to watch for on them (and I don't know everything to begin with). But if you can try and make sure the mag spring is strong. It probably won't be, which means you'll have to play with it to get it to feed reliably. Even still, they're fun as fuck and, mine at least, is surprisingly accurate (equal to my K31). Expect to pay around $700 for one.

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>>33225122
Ah. I thought you were getting back in the game for a sec.

>I really need a nice WWII correct M91/30.

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>>33225150
What year is your Lebel?

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>>33225163
Same as my Berthier.

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>>33225182
Whipper snappers

(I need a Berthier)

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>>33225150
>WWII correct M91/30

Surprisingly hard to come by, well, other than Finnish ones anyway.

>>33225288
I know :(

>>33225148
Il keep my eyes open for one i guess.
Still waiting on my 03 from the atf. How long does it usually take?

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>>33225148
>The pre-armistice rifles have a black lacquer paint and can go for over $800, depending on how well they're matched.
It's enamel paint, m8.

>>33225508
Yeah that's the word I wanted to use.
>>33225488
Dunno what the wait time is these days, at least a month I think.

>>33224206
I do not reload but it's something I want to get into
Also I don't mind that much to be honest, I've got other rifles that are dirt cheap to run
Would you suggest I get a mauser then instead? I don't even remember what they've got, no mausers I recognized

>>33225671
Arisakas are great, they just aren't cheap to shoot. So it's up to you to determine how important that quality is.

>>33224580
is there an SA stamp for Spanish rifles too? I thought [SA] was a Finnish army mark

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>>33225671
I like shooting my type 99 a lot more then shooting my mauser.

>>33226017
this pleases my autism

>>33226017
so with those Mauser actions where you can close the bolt and it pops the clip out, does that damage the clip at all?

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>>33226088
it pivots it out, so no
>>33226080
I need to update this with some of the other milsurps i've gotten since then.

>>33226017
>Loading all that live ammo indoors
What's wrong with you?

>>33226396
I fail to see the problem.

>>33226396
you do you know how a gun works right

Bought a pretty rekt vz 24. Ended up taking most of the finish off of it because it was fucked 2bh. Anyone know a better """cold""" blue than belgian?

>inb4 bubba

>>33227366
So you devalued it and want to know how to complete your devaluation?

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>>33223986
make sure its got a mum

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>>33227974
Nothing wrong with ones that have them scrubbed. People pass up too many good guns to buy trashy ones because of the daisy.

>>33225012
Because it's part of the history of the gun. Evidence supports the claim.

>>33228060
And in this case there is no evidence that the rifle came from Spain.

>>33228067
I agree in this case - it's just a panshin that wasn't updated. But rifles with legit SCW traits should be treated as SCWs.

>>33227961
>have rusted shitty gun that might be incapable and safely firing if not fixed
>fix it

Lel you destroyed your shit

Kys

>>33228165
>rusted
>incapable and safely firing
If it was that bad, it wouldn't be safe to fire with it being derusted. Furthermore, there is much better ways of going about it than completely refinishing it like an idiot.

>>33228170
>>33228170
>>>33228165 (You)
>>rusted
>>incapable and safely firing
>If it was that bad, it wouldn't be safe to fire with it being derusted.

Because rust and pitting doest get progressively worse right?

Moron

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>>33207411
Does this cracking look repairable?
It's on a 1912 Chilean Short rifle that had been arsenal rechambered to 7.62 NATO. I'd like to keep it numbers matching, as little as it's worth.

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>>33228270
Other side

>>33228290
>>33228270
Nah bruh that's firewood

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>>33228270
>>33228290
Yes. My Gew.98 needs the same fix. I'm practicing on my Turk M38's broken stock.

http://surplusrifleforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=137&t=72647

>>33228312
What'd you pay for that?

Don't know that I've ever even seen more than a couple in person.

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>>33228369
$750 last August.

>>33228400
Jelly

What's a good price on an 03a3 in ex+ condition? I was thinking 1400, am i being too jewish?

>>33228442
That's probably fair but I doubt you find one for that

>>33228312
Oh, good to hear. It doesn't seem horibbly difficult, other than finding the proper angle for the hole.

>>33228442
>am i being too jewish?
For $1400 it should still be in the factory wrappings. I'm thinking $700-1000.

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>>33212686
>Not an AR-15

>>33207411
I like the idea of buying military surplus, where do I begin?

>>33228650
2007 or earlier

>>33228223
>Because rust and pitting doest get progressively worse right?
Only if you leave the rust there. You don't have to refinish something to remove the rust.

>>33228480
>>33228487
One saying $1400 is a good price another saying $1000 is good. Goddamn milsurp and it's subjective pricing.

>Be me
>Norwegian
>Can't get my hands on any semi-automatic weapons like the SVT, SKS and so on
Kill me already

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>>33228663

My collection didn't start getting good until like 2009 - 20010.

Get gud.

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>>33228650

As in for collecting military rifles or just buying more guns just because they are more and different than what you already have?

>>33228748
I make 24k/yr, I can only buy so much

>>33228748
>>33228767
Post "Wauser".

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Does OGBJ mean anything, or is it just somebody's initials?
This is on a Winchester-produced M1917

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>>33228773

I spent relatively little money because I'd trade a lot and buy guns for much less than market value at gun shows and poorly labeled online auctions (as well as selling rifles for more than I paid so that I could immediately buy 2 more rifles for my collection with that money). More of an investment in time and knowledge than anything else.

Again, get gud.

>>33228803

Here's my "fake" Standardmodell.

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>>33228840
>>33228803

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>>33228832

It is the marking of the inspector of the rifle after it was rebuilt during WWII, IIRC.

>>33228803

Here's my "fake" VZ.24