Underrated Guns

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yup I really want one But can't find any cheap I think i'm just gonna wait till next christmas

Steyr L9-A1

A few people shit on the LH9 becuase
>hur, you can get a DP51 for cheaper

Well, no shit a used gun is cheaper than a new gun. People also shit on the high MSRP, but the LH9 street price is usually equivalent to other comparable handguns. It's not very widely available though, so maybe a tad higher than other guns becuase of that. It seems like there are even fewer places that stock them now and most people just order from Lionheart directly during black firday.

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My nigga, my nigga

>>28904650
>just order from Lionheart directly during black Friday.
Man with a plan, This.

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I had an LH9c and was very underwhelmed by it. The trigger was ok, but I never shot the gun as accurately as any of my other compact/sub-compact guns.

It also had some serious feeding issues when I got it, and would lock the slide back mid magazine. When I sent the gun in to Lionheart (they made me pay shipping, which isn't a huge deal, but companies like Ruger or CZ will send you a label if you have a problem) all they did was grind the end of the slide stop down. Problem being they grinded it so far down it would lock back on empty, after I realized how hokey their service was I decided to sell it.

That being said, I realize my gun had some problems but my brother and father both have fullsize models and love them. They haven't had any issues beyond the finish being somewhat soft.

>>28903799
I really want one, but fuck that 13 round nonsense.

Come on Anons, OPSEC. Cover up those serial numbers!

>>28907090
I don't have the gun anymore so I couldn't give less fucks.

>>28903799
I want one, I just wish I could find one so I could figure out of I want the compact or the fullsize.

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Just posting LH9.

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If the hype is to be believed, the PPQ doesn't get the recognition that it deserves.

>>28903799
Good taste in pen's anon. Better be a V5 though.

Sphinx SDP

It's a match grade duty gun with awesome ergonomics, factory accuracy, and a very smooth trigger pull, but they're $1000 and have little aftermarket.

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Steyr L9A1 / M9A1 perhaps?
Had some extractor issues on release, but they seem pretty solid now.

>>28908652
>not using the regular visions
faggot

>>28908777
"Regular visions"?

>>28908834
http://www.amazon.com/Uni-Ball-Vision-Stick-Rollerball-60126/dp/B00006IE8J

The non-elite, nothing fancy Vision line.

>>28908878
The non-elite, nothing fancy Precise line. also cheaper. faggot.

http://www.amazon.com/Pilot-Precise-Stick-Rolling-35334/dp/B00006IEBI

>>28907012
I have a mkii. 15 round magazine. I really like it.

>>28908611
Walthers in generally are usually overlooked as range toys and movie props.

>>28907012
All fullsize LH9s comes with a 13 rounder and a 15 rounder. And there are 30 rounders dp51 mags as well (although made by promag)

>>28906965
Was about to get one of these for winter carry but the 10 round capacity is soo sad.

>>28907012
There's 15 rounders.
I figure you should be able to get it to 17 with a floorplate extension.

I really want a S&W 5906 derivative in 9mm, with an aluminum frame, frame mounted safety, spur hammer, DA/SA trigger, 5" barrel and slide to match, which takes M&P 9 mags

>>28908611
It's a shame too, because as I understand, the PPQ is supposed to be very nice.
Maybe people are turned off by the mag release? I know I am, to be completely honest.

>>28910602
>although made by promag
Avoid, pretty much everything made under the ProMag brand is cheap flimsy junk.
I've been told the steel 20rd mags for the Mini-14 are supposed to be passable but I would preferably want to test that theory before relying on them.

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Cz p09.

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Fuck the Rogak =(

>>28912508
now I know where ruger got its inspiration from

>>28911561
The M2 version fixed the complaints people had with it, including the paddle release.

>>28908044
Only 1/2 difference in barrels,overall length and height.main difference magazine in gun capabilities.second mag can be lot of choices.10,13,15,17,20.can use s&w 5906or6906,marlin camp 9,or mec-gar.

>>28908611
the PPQ has flaws in itself. A regular non navy model doesn't have drainage ports for the striker and will choke on water like that VP9 in that video did. The magazine release is also even more fragile on the M1 than the VP9's paddles. The M2 also have the button magazine release put on as almost an afterthought and will easily drop mags firing with a modern thumbs forward grip.

>>28912670
Unless you've either never used one or are using the release incorrectly, you'd be retarded to pick the button release over the paddle. Use it with an index finger and you don't have to shift your grip with any size hand and it's nearly impossible to accidentally engage.

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>>28904328
Love mine

>>28908701
You can call them and they will send you the new style extractor

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>>28912740

>>28903799

Bersa thunder

Played with one at a pawn shop the other day and it had a really nice trigger. Id like to shoot one and see if I like it

>>28910674
Yeah the capacity didn't bug me so much, as I was able to find a bunch of older smith 69 series magazines that were 12 rounders. Mine just wasn't as good of a gun as it felt.

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>>28912998
I have 5k through mine. As longs I keep a fresh recoil spring in it, its reliable as a Sig or Glock.

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A lot of people knock it but I love mine.

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>>28908611
>PPQ

It's overrated

>>28912629
Ruger has never made a gas-delayed blowback pistol.

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>>28912998
I want a Thunder +

>>28908660
The double action is innexcussably poor. A basic cz 75b has a better trigger.

Grand power k100. Better than most everything else in trigger and recoil control, and it uses cz 75 mags. Goes for about $650-700 new.

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I love my DP-51. It came to me in kinda rough shape but fresh paint is in the mail and the last thing I want is a new barrel, kinda hard to come by one.

>>28913994
They're rad, my aunt has one. Super pleasant to shoot

>>28908611
I've owned one for a little over a year and a half, it's the navy version. I really trust this gun. It's good in a springfield 45 galco king tuc

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Aww yiss

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>>28919017
More sexy

>>28915745
You could just use a lh9 barrel...

>>28904650
>hurr this pistol is competitive on price one weekend a year, this is a totally valid comparison to the normal street price of comparable pistols the other ~362 days of the year!
Some other reasons it's not very widely liked are that nobody makes a good holster for it and it has low capacity for its size. Also spare magazines are pretty scarce and outrageously expensive for what they are.
>$650+ street price

>>28919091
Addendum. Wasn't aware they were compatible with Smith mags.

>>28913976
He's saying because it their new ruger american pistol looks like a direct physical copy of that steyr you jackass.

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>>28903799
smith and Wesson makes damn good 1911s

>>28919061
Yea, if I could find one...

>>28920370
I like the fish scale serrations on the slide, but a lot of people fucking hate them.

>>28920446
im undecided, Im a bit of a purist but I don't mind some guilty pleasures either. One of my favorite guns is my 9mm compact 1911

>>28920370
hopefully they fixed the extractor issue, apparently the pin wasnt set properly and would kinda just work itself loose.

>>28908112
It's like a cz 75, 1911, beretta 92 and the backstrap from a walther.

>>28912750
Any idea where i can find one of those? Florida.

>>28919091
There are like 4 companies that makes holsters for them. K rounds, G code, and some semi custom leather companies. Any holster made for the smith 59 should also work.

Also I never stated that the BF price is the street price, the street price of the base model LH9 use to be around 450-500 last year with others usually being 75-150 cheaper than msrp. Again, not cheap, and i never claimed it was. What I said was that the street price are close to other full size metal guns of similar features, and maybe a tad higher now due to few places (online that i could find at least) offering them compared to a year or two ago.

Also, magazines can obtained from the manufacture. Are they cheap? Not really, but they aren't outrageous either. 35 bucks? Beretta wants 30 from their own store for 92 mags. CZ wants 40 for cz75 mags from their own site. Mec gar use to make cheaper aftermarket ones for the dp51. If the lh9 gains popularity maybe they'll start making them again.

>>28920158
Except it doesn't.

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>>28914086

I really want one of these before the prices start going up.

>>28911676
im an american infantryman and i had the "only gonna buy 'merican" mentality when buying all my guns til a got a CZ. P09 is fucking awesome