In a world dominated by Multicam, tans, and digital camo, is there still a place for Woodland?
The vast majority of gear excludes this camo. Is it not "tactical" looking enough, or has it become less effective than newer patterns?
if you like it then wear it, most of /k/ loves to play dress up anyways so why not
I like it. It's cheap and if you live in a literally woodland area, it works. Well, for me it does at least. I've had guys walk past me while I was laying down in in a bush with it before.
woodland works amazing where I live. multicam is fashionable right now but disregard that and treat it as just another option.
>Woodland works everywhere
There is no need to lie.
>see boots poking out of a bush
>guys laying down in the bush
>he's dressed in woodland that's so faded its more like desert camp
>just decide to walk past
>guy wont stop giggling
>ignore him and go home
>two years later on /k/
>see this post
>tell the real story
*I sold everything in that picture
still got plenty of shit tho
It's as effective as it's always been. But there are both more and better patterns available now. With everything on the market it's much easier to find something that matches where you live than in the Woodland/Desert days.
And earth tones like coyote or ranger green are more universal.
N. GABro! Yeah Woodland's not that great here, too dark in the late Spring/Summer and too green in Fall/Winter/early Spring.
I still buy it cuz it's cheap and I think it looks cool.
Yeah, but WZ 93 just seems to work the longest out of most of the camo patterns I've used before.
As a person who loves woodland so fucking much I shelled out for an LBE just to rock it, my criticism is that it's too dark. The biggest mistake most people make with camo and ghilles too(other than too much burlap) is that they make them too dark, and you stand out in the field. I really don't like multicam but it works so damn well it's disgusting. MARPAT too.
Honestly it makes me think of "Stripes".
Why did the chicken cross the road?
To get from the left to the right.
He stepped out of rank, got hit by a tank,
He ain't no chicken no more.
Would woodland work for central oregon pine forest like pic related? All I've had recommended is gay ass marpat and flecktarn (which a lot of people say is too dark for the region.)
I repeat, no gay ass marpat
It looks even better when woodland is mixed with dcus
or tropical multicam
Anything non digital or multicam?
I love woodland especially ERDL and i abdolutely love ALICE/LCE gear so it all works out Well. Just get brown dominant erdl.
Woodland: the choice for operators who like to go balls-deep
We're talking about a green forest right? Choices are limited. Now a brown forest in wintertime or late fall you have thousands of choices,
green forest? Just go with my three pics above.
Woodland camo doesn't really work, it's too dark and just stands out anywhere.
(Damn I forgot this Danish camo, take a look)
Also the Canadian camo Cadpat should be great in green forest.
I fucking love M81, but I also love the 80s so I might be a bit biased. It's good enough, but obviously not the best camo. It's much better when dirty or a little faded as it loses the darkness that gives it away. Overall I prefer DPM or AOR2, and MARPAT depending on the conditions.
What would you all say are good examples of a camouflage to use for the yellows to browns of the mud and field?
Multicam and Pencott Badlands look amazing, and there's a few special snowflake ones that seem good.
So i'm getting the impression that woodland looks nice here only after several coats of sand, dust ,dirt, mud, and when brand new (eg >>28874672 it just looks stupid)
But at that point why not just get something tan if all you're doing is making the color more tan
I'm more hipster operator then you bee yotch
digi-flora master race reporting in
Growing up I was exposed to the Army in M81 my entire childhood.
It's actually so ingrained into me that even now that I am in the Army, when I picture a US Army Soldier in my mind I don't picture the uniform and equipment I wear and use, instead I still picture the uniform my dad wore, M81 BDUs and ALICE equipment.
>yfw the same thing will happen with ucp
We are not sure what camo to use in our group yet. We all have a bunch of Flecktarn pices but we dont want to get mistaken for Bundeswehr when SHTF so we cant go full Flecktarn.
Location is south-western germany.
I think DMP would be a good idea since it looks like it matches good with our flora and its easy to get cheap surplus gear.
Is there anything that speaks against it?
Also how does M90 perform? i know the surplus stuff is more expensive and less common but HNNGG its sexy af desu.
> tfw there is no modern gear in badass historic camos like Sumpftarn or original Splittertarn
>Sir the target is literally on fire in a burning building so maybe these orange BDUs could work
>Sir a cargo ship flooded with grape kool aid has been taken by terrorists
>Sir there are BEES all up in this motherfucker
>Sir we have to assault the sky, if we wear the blue BDUs it will never see us coming
>Sir the strike team before us was torn to shreds painting the walls with their blood but I think I have the camouflage to fit the situation
It's a remapped climate map, not a real camouflage map. Down in Tucson I'd say MTP is pretty good, there's a ton of foliage and the soil is roughly the same color as the brown shades.
Also as an aside, the sage scrublands of eastern Washington and Idaho are the only place UCP is an appropriate or useful camouflage.
Shit man, ignore that guy's stuff about camo. He's inventing an invisibility cloak. It's totally real and totally works and he'd totally show it off to everybody if it wasn't super-uper-duper top secret and he really shouldn't be talking about it so he'll just talk about how he can't talk about it.
Also the U.S. sucks for not adopting US4CES so go Mexico. Pic related so you can see how much better MEX4CES is than any U.S. camo and admire the giant M16s Mexico issues to female troops.
>is there still a place for Woodland?
Yes. All patterns have somewhere that they will work. However, the useful space for most "woodland, jungle, or forest" patterns developed in the 20th century is relatively narrow. To some extent, this is because these patterns were developed for use in what are commonly considered environmental extremes or monoclimates (e.g. dense jungle or rainforests). These patterns are heavily saturated relative to the majority of environments that people actually live in. Modern patterns cove a much larger battlespace than Tiger Stripe, M81, Flecktarn, etc.
>has it become less effective than newer patterns?
Essentially yes. Most modern patterns use colors that are not as heavily saturated and omit black as a color. Even modern dense forest patterns such as MultiCam Tropic or A-TACS FG stand out less in jungles or rainforests.
Multicam is so versatile you only need one pattern for everyth... what? ...oh... There's more than one Multicam pattern? Arid, Tropical, Alpine and Black? Well, Multicam is still the best pattern because it's Murrican!
It's just that /k/, and indeed the world, is full of autists who want to cosplay as soldiers.
If I drew a dick on my kit, I imagine it'd trickle down to these dopey masses, and I'd see people in the streets wearing civvy camo "fashion" with dicks on them.
Don't even get me started on the people who surplus webbing.
Sooo, what I'm seeing is that woodland looks really cool, but doesn't work as well as other patterns...
Vietnam tigerstripe works pretty well in the ferns too but isn't nearly as universal.
>NWU for great lakes
>cook whites for all the oceans instead of NWU
You had ONE JOB
>Vietnam tigerstripe works pretty well
>Vietnam tigerstripe is one of the least effective and darkest patterns to have been fielded, only the gooks could have come up with that bullshit
Gardening because the fabric is cheap and tough.
>he doesn't want to be able to tame bees
>he wants to take damage from fire
>tfw Olive drab is dead
The fuck are you talking about?
>be a civillian
>wear olive drab shirt or jacket
>able to blend in both an urban environment and greenery at the same time
>you don't stick out like a sore thumb wearing full multicam to the grocery store
>you don't stick out like a sore thumb wearing full multicam to the grocery store
Uh, yeah you do...
>trying to look cool
No, civilians try to look cool by paying 20% more for Multi Cam gear.
OD, Ranger Green, Foliage Green, etc are fucking classics, and work well.
Nigger, where have you been? Plate carriers, harnesses, combat shirts, etc. in OD or Ranger Green ALL cost the same as multicool.
Nigger, a comment was made that there was no reason for charging more money. I may not be the guy that the comment was directed at, but it's a bullshit point and I let him know it.
pretty much, but its old. but OG
unless olive drab is a camo type now
He made a commnet that there was no reason because ranger green is cheaper.
I understand your comment and agree with its points, but if you were the original person who was saying they are the same price I'm going to point out that you moved goalposts. Not knowing which of the numerous anonymous you are I make the assumption that everyone but me is the same, really fast typing faggot.