Woodland Camo

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if you like it then wear it, most of /k/ loves to play dress up anyways so why not

>>28867172
if you're a hipster operator like me, yes

>>28867172
I like it. It's cheap and if you live in a literally woodland area, it works. Well, for me it does at least. I've had guys walk past me while I was laying down in in a bush with it before.

>>28867172
>Is it not "tactical" looking enough
MARSOC disagrees

>>28867172

Woodland works everywhere, faggots just want the latest patterns

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>>28867172
woodland works amazing where I live. multicam is fashionable right now but disregard that and treat it as just another option.

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>>28867794
>Woodland works everywhere
There is no need to lie.

>>28867793
they wore it because the ANA did, that was literally the only reason

It sucks ass compared to multicam and AOR1/2, there's no opinion there. It's inferior, especially through NIR

>>28867791
beer thief detected

>>28867172
Honestly I always liked the Polish WZ 93 much better. It just works much better than woodland where I am in North Georgia.

I don't know man. I live in South Florida, doubt any of the tans or FDE work down here. Mostly grass and shit.

>>28867979
tans don't but the coyote browns do.

>>28867791
>be me
>walking along
>see boots poking out of a bush
>guys laying down in the bush
>giggling
>he's dressed in woodland that's so faded its more like desert camp
>just decide to walk past
>guy wont stop giggling
>ignore him and go home
>two years later on /k/
>see this post
>tell the real story

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muh woodlans
>tfw you I everything in this picture

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>>28868741
*I sold everything in that picture

still got plenty of shit tho

It's as effective as it's always been. But there are both more and better patterns available now. With everything on the market it's much easier to find something that matches where you live than in the Woodland/Desert days.
And earth tones like coyote or ranger green are more universal.

>>28867977
N. GABro! Yeah Woodland's not that great here, too dark in the late Spring/Summer and too green in Fall/Winter/early Spring.
I still buy it cuz it's cheap and I think it looks cool.

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>>28869861
Yeah, but WZ 93 just seems to work the longest out of most of the camo patterns I've used before.

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As a person who loves woodland so fucking much I shelled out for an LBE just to rock it, my criticism is that it's too dark. The biggest mistake most people make with camo and ghilles too(other than too much burlap) is that they make them too dark, and you stand out in the field. I really don't like multicam but it works so damn well it's disgusting. MARPAT too.

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Honestly it makes me think of "Stripes".

Why did the chicken cross the road?
To get from the left to the right.
He stepped out of rank, got hit by a tank,
He ain't no chicken no more.

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>>28867793
I'll admit, they make it look pretty badass

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>>28872143

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>>28867172
>>28867793
MARSOC bro disagrees, OP.

I rock woodland and Marpat

>>28872143
>>28872365
>>28872530
It looks damn good as part of a mix and match ensemble.

>>28867961
>multicam company testing pics

Bruh come back with third party testing.

>>28872365
if that guy on the rights name is dave, I think I use to work with him.

>>28873308
>It looks damn good as part of a mix and match ensemble.
Well said, anon. Aside from that I like it because when I was a kid it was the norm. Dat childhood nostalgia.

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>>28867172
Would woodland work for central oregon pine forest like pic related? All I've had recommended is gay ass marpat and flecktarn (which a lot of people say is too dark for the region.)

>>28873512
woodland would work, but multicam tropic would work better.

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>>28873512
>>28867172

>>28874162
>Random patch in phoenix
>desert in flagstaff

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>>28874162
I repeat, no gay ass marpat

>>28874205
What camo is savage wearing?

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>>28873308
It looks even better when woodland is mixed with dcus

>>28874301
creamcrop

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>>28873512
>Green forest
>IN springtime/.summer

or pencott
or tropical multicam

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>>28874382
Anything non digital or multicam?

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>>28870348
I love woodland especially ERDL and i abdolutely love ALICE/LCE gear so it all works out Well. Just get brown dominant erdl.

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>>28874346

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Woodland: the choice for operators who like to go balls-deep

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>>28874469
HET.
We're talking about a green forest right? Choices are limited. Now a brown forest in wintertime or late fall you have thousands of choices,

green forest? Just go with my three pics above.

Woodland camo doesn't really work, it's too dark and just stands out anywhere.

(Damn I forgot this Danish camo, take a look)
Also the Canadian camo Cadpat should be great in green forest.

I fucking love M81, but I also love the 80s so I might be a bit biased. It's good enough, but obviously not the best camo. It's much better when dirty or a little faded as it loses the darkness that gives it away. Overall I prefer DPM or AOR2, and MARPAT depending on the conditions.

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What would you all say are good examples of a camouflage to use for the yellows to browns of the mud and field?

Multicam and Pencott Badlands look amazing, and there's a few special snowflake ones that seem good.

>>28877125
>>28874658
So i'm getting the impression that woodland looks nice here only after several coats of sand, dust ,dirt, mud, and when brand new (eg >>28874672 it just looks stupid)

But at that point why not just get something tan if all you're doing is making the color more tan

>>28874658
Wait the fucking dog is blurred i give up

>>28874162
I'm located where three different camo patterns meet in ohio. fuck pham

>>28868741
What's that carrier to the right

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>>28867750
I'm more hipster operator then you bee yotch

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digi-flora master race reporting in

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>>28878340
Why is digiflora just so good?

>>28867172
This is by a camo developer, so obviously they're going to push their own product. but it's a good read about this subject.

http://www.hyperstealth.com/coyote/

>>28878485
it's not, digiflora is trash and color bleeds like a motherfucker.

>>28877280
It and alice gear have a nice way of being stained by the earth around them

>>28878485
what pack is that?

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Growing up I was exposed to the Army in M81 my entire childhood.

It's actually so ingrained into me that even now that I am in the Army, when I picture a US Army Soldier in my mind I don't picture the uniform and equipment I wear and use, instead I still picture the uniform my dad wore, M81 BDUs and ALICE equipment.

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>>28879107
>yfw the same thing will happen with ucp

We are not sure what camo to use in our group yet. We all have a bunch of Flecktarn pices but we dont want to get mistaken for Bundeswehr when SHTF so we cant go full Flecktarn.
Location is south-western germany.
I think DMP would be a good idea since it looks like it matches good with our flora and its easy to get cheap surplus gear.
Is there anything that speaks against it?
Also how does M90 perform? i know the surplus stuff is more expensive and less common but HNNGG its sexy af desu.
> tfw there is no modern gear in badass historic camos like Sumpftarn or original Splittertarn

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>>28878987
Stay mad Turk or ukie

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>>28867172
For every occasion.

>>28879134

Sucks to be the UCP soldier generation.

>>28879556
>Sir the target is literally on fire in a burning building so maybe these orange BDUs could work
>Sir a cargo ship flooded with grape kool aid has been taken by terrorists
>Sir there are BEES all up in this motherfucker
>Sir we have to assault the sky, if we wear the blue BDUs it will never see us coming
>Sir the strike team before us was torn to shreds painting the walls with their blood but I think I have the camouflage to fit the situation

>>28867973
Everyone seems to be glossing over this fact.

>>28874182

It's a remapped climate map, not a real camouflage map. Down in Tucson I'd say MTP is pretty good, there's a ton of foliage and the soil is roughly the same color as the brown shades.

Also as an aside, the sage scrublands of eastern Washington and Idaho are the only place UCP is an appropriate or useful camouflage.

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>>28878705
>Guy Cramer
Shit man, ignore that guy's stuff about camo. He's inventing an invisibility cloak. It's totally real and totally works and he'd totally show it off to everybody if it wasn't super-uper-duper top secret and he really shouldn't be talking about it so he'll just talk about how he can't talk about it.

Also the U.S. sucks for not adopting US4CES so go Mexico. Pic related so you can see how much better MEX4CES is than any U.S. camo and admire the giant M16s Mexico issues to female troops.

>>28874469
Norwegian camo :^)
Really works wonders in greeny areas

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woodland camo is best camo

>>28879718

top kek

>>28867973
>It's inferior, especially through NIR

Well, that couldn't be remedied at all, now could it?

Everything else you said was subjective, take a hike.

>>28879718
>Sir there are BEES all up in this motherfucker
Hm

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>>28867172
>is there still a place for Woodland?
Yes. All patterns have somewhere that they will work. However, the useful space for most "woodland, jungle, or forest" patterns developed in the 20th century is relatively narrow. To some extent, this is because these patterns were developed for use in what are commonly considered environmental extremes or monoclimates (e.g. dense jungle or rainforests). These patterns are heavily saturated relative to the majority of environments that people actually live in. Modern patterns cove a much larger battlespace than Tiger Stripe, M81, Flecktarn, etc.

>has it become less effective than newer patterns?
Essentially yes. Most modern patterns use colors that are not as heavily saturated and omit black as a color. Even modern dense forest patterns such as MultiCam Tropic or A-TACS FG stand out less in jungles or rainforests.

>>28867961
Multicam is so versatile you only need one pattern for everyth... what? ...oh... There's more than one Multicam pattern? Arid, Tropical, Alpine and Black? Well, Multicam is still the best pattern because it's Murrican!

>>28881340
>Multicam is so versatile you only need one pattern for everything
Nobody said this. The guy you're replying to only said that m81 doesn't work everywhere.

>>28879718
kek

>>28867172
Am i the only one old enough here to actually get issued this stuff

>>28874469
Danish, Norwegian or Swedish camo should be right up your alley then. Norwegian camo may be just a little bit too brown, but it should do just fine.

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>>28881711
No.

It's just that /k/, and indeed the world, is full of autists who want to cosplay as soldiers.

If I drew a dick on my kit, I imagine it'd trickle down to these dopey masses, and I'd see people in the streets wearing civvy camo "fashion" with dicks on them.

Don't even get me started on the people who surplus webbing.

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>>28867961
>>28870348
>>28872143
>>28872365
>>28872530
>>28874346
>>28874658
>>28877125
>>28880625

Sooo, what I'm seeing is that woodland looks really cool, but doesn't work as well as other patterns...

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>>28882303
depends where you live.

>>28874162

Is there a version of this map with the camo types labeled, for us noob gear-queers?

>>28882595
It's pretty much multicam, woodland marpat, flecktarn and whatever that desert pattern is called (sorry man).
This map isn't that great either.

>>28873512

Up in WA, I have some regular multicam gear. Tropical is a bit dark when things dry out or you leave tree cover.

>>28882682
>This map isn't that great either.

Woodland marpat in eastern Washington is a joke.

>>28882699
Agreed, and flecktarn for the entire eastern half of the US (except nwu for the grt lks, kek) is retardation as well.

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>>28882595

>>28882588
Looks too dark there...

>>28882859
What's the cam for the PNW?

>>28882802
>>28882699
>>28882682
It's flawed because the pattern choices are based on canopy rather than undergrowth.

>>28883110
Woodland Marpat.

>>28883107
woodland marpat.

Vietnam tigerstripe works pretty well in the ferns too but isn't nearly as universal.

>>28882859
>NWU for great lakes
>cook whites for all the oceans instead of NWU
You had ONE JOB

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>tfw Olive drab is dead

>>28883139
>Vietnam tigerstripe works pretty well
>Vietnam tigerstripe is one of the least effective and darkest patterns to have been fielded, only the gooks could have come up with that bullshit
FTFY

>>28883162
It works pretty well in the ferns found in new-growth PNW forests. This is not a false statement. The fern undergrowth is also extremely dark.

>>28883161
Ranger Green is seeing a resurgence though.

>>28883392
From civilians trying to look cool, not from militaries.

>>28877280
It's the same to a certain extent for all camos. The more used and worn they are in the environment they are used in they start to blend more with that environment

>>28878485
You an mnfag?

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>>28867172
Gardening because the fabric is cheap and tough.

>>28879718
Several keks

>>28878485
>Why is digiflora just so good?
Because it blobs at any kind of distance and gets you killed?

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>>28879718
>he doesn't want to be able to tame bees
>he wants to take damage from fire

>>28883161
>tfw Olive drab is dead

The fuck are you talking about?
>be a civillian
>wear olive drab shirt or jacket
>able to blend in both an urban environment and greenery at the same time
>you don't stick out like a sore thumb wearing full multicam to the grocery store

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>>28884283
>you don't stick out like a sore thumb wearing full multicam to the grocery store
Uh, yeah you do...

>>28884333
meant to say that

>>28874162
>>28882859
Where would Multicam Tropical go in this map?

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>>28867977
Based Polan

>>28879718
>Not wearing The Pains uniform

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>>28883569
>Ranger green
>trying to look cool
>green
>cool

No, civilians try to look cool by paying 20% more for Multi Cam gear.

OD, Ranger Green, Foliage Green, etc are fucking classics, and work well.

>>28885846
south florida, and for many parts of central and south america.

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>>28886176
Nigger, where have you been? Plate carriers, harnesses, combat shirts, etc. in OD or Ranger Green ALL cost the same as multicool.

What's an alternative to Multicam that's about as effective?

>>28886869
no, they don't

multishit is usually $10-30 more for no reason.

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>>28880625

Dat tactical fanny pack.

>>28887167
>for no reason
Buddy, it costs more to print patterns onto clothes. Patterns are worth 10-30 bucks if they offer better camouflage. That is just not that much money.

>>28888634
that adds up once you're paying extra for each pouch and uniform.

>>28888634
Now where did that goalpost head off to..

>>28887135
British MTP or the Aussie camo.
There's plenty of knock offs. The Army uses one.

>>28889533
>goalpost
Nigger, a comment was made that there was no reason for charging more money. I may not be the guy that the comment was directed at, but it's a bullshit point and I let him know it.

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>>28882303
pretty much, but its old. but OG

unless olive drab is a camo type now

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>>28889857
He made a commnet that there was no reason because ranger green is cheaper.

I understand your comment and agree with its points, but if you were the original person who was saying they are the same price I'm going to point out that you moved goalposts. Not knowing which of the numerous anonymous you are I make the assumption that everyone but me is the same, really fast typing faggot.