Stock Finish/Refinishing

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>>28738657

bumping with sexy M39's

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>>28738685

heres the actual stock i purchased

>>28738657
Tung oil

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http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?429225-So-what-to-use-on-Finn-M39-brand-new-stock

> no finish at all

No there's plenty finnish there.

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>>28738921

too shiny, wont resemble what the Finns would have done

>>28738952

yeah top contender is the 1:1:1 beeswax, turpentine, BLO. was wondering if any anons have done it before

>>28739008

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Bamp

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Whatever you do, please research it first.

I don't know how much experience you have with woodworking/finishing, but I always see people here that don't know what the fuck they're doing and it ends up looking terrible.

I would say use a minwax stain, something dark, you can find it at your hardware store. Do three or four coats of that and take your time. Then use a low-gloss polyurethane, four or five thin coats, buffing with fine steel wool between coats.

Pic related is my M44 after I refinished the stock with the above method, but I used a high gloss poly.

>>28739253

I've refinished a few stocks. I won't be using a gloss, the Finns didn't use them.

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>>28739335
>the Finns didn't use them.

The Finns didn't use a lot of things that you're probably going to use to finish this stock. Unless you can find a big tub of surplus varnish that they used in their factories, you're not going to get an authentic finish. Satin polyurethane or low-gloss tung oil will get you where you want to be finish wise. Pic related is a different nugget that I finished with low gloss tung oil.

>>28739376

Still too much shine brah. The Finns used BLO+turpentine+beeswax 1:1:1

Every M39 I've ever seen has a matte appearance to the stock

>>28739397
Are you OP?

If you know how to do it, why are you asking?

>>28738657
my bet would be boiled linseed oil, mixed with decreasing ammount of thinners each layer. finished up with linseed oil + some hardener

>>28738657
Bubba no

>>28739412

>unissued stock with no finish

>herpaderp bubba pls

What do you suggest? Leave it bare?

also while we're at it remember to sand it with fine paper while its wet to close the pores. i think this should be done when doing the coating layers too, cant remember.

anyways, wood are poisonous as fuck, use a mask, or you will literally have a shitty life

>>28739432
The Finns didn't put anything on it. Why should you.

>>28739453

Except they did. Are you retarded? Have you seen raw wood before? Have you seen an M39? Compare the two.

>>28738657
If you decide to stain, use a rag instead of a brush to get a more consistent finish.

>>28739472
On that stock, they left it bare. If you put a finish on it you are ruining the collector value of the stock.

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>>28739530

You're retarded. Look at the pictures of M39's in this thread. Wood doesn't just come out of a tree looking like that. All wood stocks are finished by some method.

>>28739578
You aren't a Finnish armorer. That's my point.

>>28739253
>not using shellac on your M44

get the fuck out of this thread, you don't deserve to post here

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>>28739586

Neither are you, but there is documentation of how they were finished. It also takes a pretty marginal IQ to identify that M39 stocks were indeed finished. You clearly are lacking even that basic observational skill.

>>28739615
You are clearly not understanding my point. Why do you bubbas insist on fucking up a stock? Why can't you just leave it alone?

>>28739630
>what is reading comprehension
OP's stock is bare you fucking retard, go back to middle school

>>28739641
So leave it alone. The Finns left it alone, why can't bubba?

>>28739646
The Finns left it alone because they never used it. It's a spare not yet fitted to any rifle.

>>28739630

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>>28739646
you are clearly mentally disabled, here's your reply

>>28739649
Still doesn't change the fact that OP isn't a Finnish armorer.

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>>28739646

>this level of blatant retardation

>>28739684
Talk to any other serious Mosin collector. The moment you put your own finish on it all collector value is gone. Collectors want every part of the rifle as it left Finland, including the stock.

>>28739694

Assuming you own guns, which I'm sure you don't. Are you an armorer for Glock, or the US military or whatever? You're not. By your logic, it's time to hand in your guns, you clearly have no right to handle them.

>>28739656
By the way you saying Simpson Ltd has stocks? Cuz there is a SkY m39 I know about with a cracked stock that is otherwise in fantastic condition I might try to save.

>>28739708
Glocks aren't military surplus. You just don't have the collector mentality.

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>>28739694
he has a spare, BARE stock. there is no inherent collector's value to it. are you seriously this stupid? please tell me you're trolling.

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>>28739694
>Collectors want every part of the rifle as it left Finland, including the stock.
It's never been part of a rifle though; it's a spare part.

>>28739729
Not true at all, considering m39 stocks are getting scarcer by the day

>>28739709

Whoosh

>>28739737

Sweet picture anon, saved.

OP the Finns used pine tar. http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=137&t=85350

The BLO, beeswax, turp is fine. but they used pine tar on everything.

>>28739778

So OP should just let it sit in a closet because it's a collectors item instead of finishing it to put it on a rifle?

>>28739737
Dem lines. Did they have stock CnCs back then?

>>28739867
not cnc but they had machines that controlled it mechanically.

well you could call it cnc only its a mechanical computer

dont know if they used it for stocks but most high precision mass produced machinery used it.
they would use a shape that would be read mechanically and translated into the mill movement.

its pretty fucking cool

>>28739849
No. Just put it on the gun. By the way an unmolested m39 stock goes for $150.

>>28740042

OP here, I paid a bit more than that.

>>28739253
you might as well have sporterized it, bubba.

>>28739848

Can you use pine tar alone or do you have to top it with something?

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>>28738697
That stock clearly has a finish on it.
That's just the way those post-war stock looks.
>>28739253
>but I always see people here that don't know what the fuck they're doing and it ends up looking terrible.
Judging by your picture, you shouldn't be talking.

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Here's my refinished Mosin.

I basically sanded the stock with various types of sandpaper and then applied a coat of oil. I took care to just make the wood look better, but not to remove the dents and scratches that it had from use.

I also reblued the metal.

>>28740242
You can use pine tar alone. It will just take longer to dry between coats, and the beeswax/blo mix gives it some water repellency, not that pine tar isn't decent as is.

>>28741073

stock i bought doesnt look a thing like my b barrel in a post war stock, guess we'll see when i get it.

>>28741091

what was your rebluing method, looks amazing

>>28741408

nice. I bought some "Tom's Pine Tar mix" 1:1:1 pine tar, turpentine and white wax. There is a video of a guy using it on arctic birch, looks great, and more importantly, authentic.

>>28741512

kek. thanks for the bump.

>>28739397
Dumb question: what is BLO?

>>28741633

boiled linseed oil

after more googling i see they allegedly used pine tar+turpentine+wax or linseed oil+turpentine+wax

>>28741091

dont die on me thread, i need to know your rebluing methods

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Postwar M39 stocks usually didnt receive stock finish unless they were one of the ones issued to the conscripts. Anyways, heres my 42 SAKO.

>>28742288

I have a feeling you're Finnish/Scandinavian. Would a pine tar+turpentine+beeswax finish be true to what the finns used?

>>28742411
Well you are right about the first bit. Dirty Finn from CO. But if you want to be legit id recommend contacting this company (http://www.tikkurila.com) and see if they can make the rifle stock oil as they made it for the Finnish army as recent as 2012.

>>28742470
Oh and you want to ask for Kivaarintukkioljy. Lit Rifle Wood Oil.

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>>28742470

Will look into it. This is the pine tar mix on an M39. Looks pretty legit.

>>28741091

Wow. Looks good. In addition to how you did the rebluing, what did you do to Polish the bolt so nicely?

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>>28742512

Not him, still waiting on the rebluing method. I've used a buffing wheel on my mosin bolts with great success.

pic related.

I could have polished it even more than I did but its very smooth like this and I didn't want too much of a mirror shine, just a nice clean look to it.

>>28742506
Its fairly close but not close enough. Pine tar was actually used by Finnish soldiers as a Mosquito Repellent. Was also used for water proofing bunkers and that sort. Birch bark and oil was also used alot.

>>28742551

honestly i cant tell the difference from the pine tar to what the finns used originally

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Heres a Finnish soldier with a pine tar bottle on his belt. Raate Road in 1941.

>>28738657
You need to slather some more pine tar thinned with turpentine on it then beeswax/turp/linseed mixture

>>28742548

Nice. Looks good anon. Thanks for the tip!

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>>28742616

>>28744247
Bubba please

>>28744262
Already got like 5 fucking legit answers and still bumping... The cancer is strong in this millennial

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Do what i did with my AK

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>>28744262

Fuck off nigger

>>28744387

Trying to get bluing tips from that one anon

>herpaderp millennials
>implying you're not a mellineal

>>28744820

That's fucking terrible

>>28744820
I nearly threw up.
You deserve a swift kick in the ghoulies.

>>28744820
I like it.

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>>28744820