>A guy shot down a drone because it was hovering above his property
>the guys who owned the drone confronted him
>in the news report he said that he had his "40mm glock" with him and was gonna shoot them if they came any closer (about 2:04 in the video)
>now faces felony charges
Problem might not be the shootdownnon its own but afaik most states have laws wich forbids people to shoot the weapon around in town area (if your life isnt obviously in danger amd similar situations).
I am from austria so correct me if i am wrong but that could be a problem, right?
After all you shoot a bullet wich wont stop magically after hitting the drone and may fall on someones head.....
>>now faces felony charges
Nope, he won the case:
>A Kentucky judge dismisses all charges against William Merideth, saying the drone was an invasion of privacy.
>afaik most states have laws wich forbids people to shoot the weapon around in town area
Yes, I believe the guy was busted for discharging a firearm within city limits but also because it’s illegal to shoot at any aircraft, of which drones qualify as.
Dunno what the solution to this is, as I see that even Cabela’s is now selling drones with video cameras, but people have a right not to be spied upon while on their own property.
>carry a gun in public
>american claps and shed a single tear of joy thinking about their constitution
>carry a camera in public
>americans chimp out and panic induced riots take the streets
Any decent cartridge will rek the fuck out of a drone.
This is almost as gay as that "specialist" luminous green anti-zombie ammunition some companies made to sell to Doomsday retards
>people have a right not to be spied upon while on their own property
No joke. Wasn't Hornady zombie ammo just Critical Defense with a green tip? I remember getting it off clearance racks for like half price at a local store, I've still got a few boxes.
People could record your backyard, house, your entire area where they can basically map out a detailed attack plan for breaking in. They can also see whatever you might be doing, to the point they can see in your fucking windows.
No, I shouldn't have to keep curtains for a window to my gated backyard shut because some fucker might fly his drone into my shit. What next? If I leave a window open they can fly it inside as long as it doesn't touch anything?
While I get that it's your property and you have a right to shoot it down, can't you at least be a reasonable person and give the guy a warning first? It's not like your being threatened by the drone, why be an asshole to your neighbors
Perhaps if you had a drone with a pillow or some rope strapped to the bottom, you could try to smash the payload into the rotors of the other drone? It'd save you buying another every time you wanted to fuck up someone's expensive toy.
Not that anon, but here you go:
goo dot gl/k9iJ3e
you'd lose your drone in the process
you could tie a long rope to your own drone, with a weight at the bottom and fly above the invader, then tangle its rotors with the rope and fuck it up
reminds me of the battle kites we had when I was a kid, you tie a razor to a long string and try to cut the other kite to pieces with it
The Yazuka and Tokyo police have started doing exactly that. The TPD started sending net equipped drones after the Yazuka's drug mule craft, so the Yazuka are now sending their OWN interceptor drones.
Other problem is a weighted rope is a damn dangerous thing to fly in the air, if it lands on someone's head with the weight you are fucked.
A better idea would be someone rigging it up to drop a sheet on the drone.
I don't know but to the drinkers and rage monkeys of /k/, aren't you afraid you're going to shoot somebody or yourself? I have a temper and drink so personally I don't own guns but I support the 2nd amendment
if the drone/camera is in public space then you're entitled to take pictures of whatever you want provided it isn't for commercial use. state by state laws on peeping tom shit vary so you *may* be subject to that if they can prove you're using the drone specifically to gain a view you otherwise wouldn't have legally (ie to creep on girls).
if the drone is in private space without permission, yeah shoot away.
Wait, you actually can't shoot spying shits above your property? And then shoot the fucker who comes to your property and insults you?
I thought you 'murricans were cool. That's not cool. That's a total freedom deficiency.
It depends on the hit. What if you glued a piece of balsawood on the bottom of your drone- pointing downwards, like the keel of a sailboat? That would be enough to fuck up the other drone's rotors, while not being too heavy for your drone or presenting a danger if it fell off.
>so, if I live under an air traffic corridor I'm entitled to shoot down airliners?
Time to start saving up for SAM equipment
>poorfag not buying superior buk 2 AA for all civilian airliner removal needs
I don't know why but this reminded me of when my roommates and I would catch spiders in our place and make them fight. They would just sit still for eternity, then one would make a move and the larger spider would usually win; and it would be over in a few seconds.
Fuckin spider drones
Also illegal. Id rather deal with a misdemeanor improper discharge with my local sherrif that i see at the skeet range than an interfering with a federal charge of communications/public frequency disruption.
What part of the Patriot Act defines that as "Terrorism"? I dont care to find out.
>Fuck my syntax.
No jammers. Don't want to give the feds a reason to come to my house and shoot my dog and babbys
>durrr my propurtietyy im sueing
>stay back or ill sh00t u its my right
literally autism, unreasonable stubburn assholes like this are why funs are frowned upon in liberal places, muh GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE I KILL PEOPLE attitude
Good man, would have done the same thing.
Reminds me, I need to put some hard grapeshot paper cartridges together for my 3" potato cannon. Not a firearm if acetylene-oxy propelled fury BTFO's your slying DLSR spying on me fapping in my back yard.
so how did the owner know he shot it down if he wasnt watching his home with the camera? the owner openly admitted to watching his home by confronting him, which makes him fully justified in threatening to shoot them, as they are in my uneducated opinion, now an invasive entity
It's not hard proof that he was spying on the guy at the time, but it's definitely suspicious as fuck. Especially with his daughter outside like that. No tolerance for that kind of bullshit, especially when it's inside your enclosed backyard.
Thanks to an old supreme court ruling, you do. Everyone is afforded a reasonable expectation to the a right of privacy which the courts can't violate without a proper warrant. Granted the fourth amendment has taken it in the ass recently, it's the reason why cops can't rummage through phones with swipe locks/pin codes or dig through your trunk, center console or dash compartment without permission, a warrant, reasonable suspicion(huge fucking grey area) or exigent circumstances
>The Greater Drone of the Amazon river basin has devised an absolutely ingenious way of capturing her prey. Spinning a web and attaching the ends to her two front legs, she creates a net used to ensnare prey on the fly. Completely entangled, the victim is carried back to her nest to be eaten at the drone's leisure. Her main diet consists of smaller drones, but birds, bats, and even small monkeys occasionally find themselves caught in her trap.
I know some of you guize talk about flying your own drone equipped with a net into the enemy drone, but come on.
You know it's going to be like air combat in any online game for a console. You'll just ram it.
>it's fine if the government's infringing on my rights!
but we're not talking about the public. we're talking about trespassing on private property. My drone does not belong on your property without your permission anymore than my unmanned racecar.
thatas the thing though anything not inside your house is considered public. Shit if you leave your blinds up and walk around in the nude you can be fined for public indecency still.
I didnt even know this was an option. I NEED THIS
>all these retards itt
>muh privacy, you cant fly over my house
>only image of the drone it's obviously far as fuck away
>"over his house"
>guy is openly 'muh rights iz infreenged'
i'll see what the judge says with the SIM card, as the content of recordings can be used to determine mischief on the operators part, if he was actually filming the guy and over his property.
otherwise the idiot is getting properly charged with felonies and will probably go to civil court for his dumbfuckery of destroying something worth more than the guns he used out of a kneejerk reaction to a trivial event.
1. Shooting down news/police helicopters would most likely involve killing someone.
2. News/police helicopters don't fly over my property for the sole purpose of looking at my shit.
Nice try though. Maybe your parents will buy you another drone for Christmas this year.
Nope, as long as you're in your house, possibly on your property depending on the local laws, it's a privacy issue. There was a news story last year in GA about a guy who would stand, stark naked, in his doorway for all the neighborhood to admire, but because he was in his house the police couldn't do anything about it.
If I was on the jury, I would find the shooter not guilty.
Fucking pervert was spying on that guys daughters as they were sunbathing.
They should file child pornography charges against the owner of the drone. I guarantee you the drone owners took pictures of the guys daughter.
>Id rather deal with a misdemeanor improper discharge with my local sherrif that i see at the skeet range than an interfering with a federal charge of communications/public frequency disruption.
How can Joe Schmoe the redneck who lives 8 doors down from you figure out it was you who jammed the airwaves to make his drone come crashing down?
From his perspective, he was just flying over your neighbors house, and saw his drone drop out of the sky.
Are the local police going to go door to door looking for a "jamming device" because some guy complained?
How would the average Joe Schmoe even know a jamming device was used?
>If you fly your faggy robot over someone else's shit
Apparently you don't have a foggiest idea about how difficult to control those things may be. Do me a favor, buy something that costs upwards of $1.5k and then try not to shit your pants when it moves all around the place on its own volition (that is, not even talking about known problems of "runaway dji", google it).
Some people (not just gun people, anyone can be) are just plain stupid.
net protocols can tell when transmissions are not transmitting when they are supposed to be. if its noticed to be a distance-based localized event then you can tell something was interfering. bluntly
I feel you man. There are far too many cringe worthy gun owners.
To really embody what a gun means, you must treat your weapon with a spiritual reverence. Because it represents the ideal of a man, and the power to defend your country, and loved ones.
I am a sheepdog.
Oh you mean those things that are regulated as fuck and takes years of training and certifications
Sorry autismo but airliners have rules that's why you don't see them flying 700ft over residential areas or letting pilots do whatever they want
I have no problem with drones in public areas but hovering around my house or me on my property is fucked, they are loud and obnoxious just like the people who fly them
>stopping stopping to look around
The fuck are you on about.
Nobody needs to look around my fucking yard.
Go to the fucking park or the woods or something if you want to do that shit.
Not at your yard, dingus, in general.
Hell, look at the picture they took of it when it was in the sky (note: way the fuck up there), it isn't even oriented in a way that would be looking at them or their property.
The logic of "if it stops moving at any point I can shoot it" is childish, sometimes people just want to get a view of the surrounding area, and motion adversely affects video.
>hi point booth
why does everyone hate on hipoint so much?
Law enforcement would need a warrant. Also, why the fuck the police or sheriff's department send a helicopter when all they would need to do is send a couple of Joes over and do it for much less?
For the news, they use helicopters primarily for traffic reports.
What about fire work rockets or something?
I wish I could make a miniature flak 88 to shoot the drones down. Have children in German uniforms man it. No one in the neighborhood gets mad, because their offspring is having the time of their lives downing drones. You know?
No, it doesn't. Keep being uneducated though.
Well, none of this matters. The FAA will be putting out new regs in March to put an end to the MUH RIGHTS bickering. Either you'll get to blast anything and everything above your property, or you won't.
you can have air rights to a certain extent just like you can own mineral rights. it all depends on the property.
>If youre in public view you have no privacy
not true. courts have ruled many times that you have a reasonable expectation of privacy in your own home or property, ESPECIALLY if you have a fence. it the same shit as climbing a tree to peep on someone
I was almost shot by a stray in pakiland, people just spray their guns in the air for celebrations.I told people who lived there, they where pretty shocked it's almost never someone gets hurt from a stray fired up.
If kebabs manage to not kill each other spraying POF aks in the air, I feel one or two well placed shots wouldn't be that bad.
On the topic of drones, anyone else hear about the yakuza drone arms race?
>Yakuza uses drones to deliver narcotics
>Japanese police deploy big drones with nets to catch them
>Yakuza makes bigger drones with bigger nets for capturing police drones
>blast anything above your property
Hows it living in your no freedoms/privacy nation britbong?
If a motherfucker is taking his drone over my property and just hanging out over my house, the motherfucker is getting shot down.
TAKE YOUR TOY ELSEWHERE BESIDES PRIVATE PROPERTY
DO YOU FUCKS NOT UNDERSTAND "PRIVATE"?
Well shooting a bullet straight upwards is usually harmless, but if you angle that shit at all, it could very well maintain enough velocity to travel pretty far and seriously injure or kill someone.
I have the knowledge to know that I'll enjoy both alcohol and firearms responsibly. If you feel like you are not responsible enough to do so, than thank you. You've helped gun owners immensely by not doing something stupid with a firearm.
You sure are making a lot of assumptions today.
>but people have a right not to be spied upon while on their own property.
If it's visible from public property you have no reasonable expectation of privacy. There is loads of case law on this.
Taking video with a drone from a few hundred feet is no different from a news cameraman filming people at a barbecue for some stock footage.
Visible from public property = fair game.
Anyone have that gif/webm of the dude accidentally fucking blasting some poor guy at a "party" with some kind of pistol shotgun thing ?
Instantly what you reminded me of.
>WHAT THE HELL HAKIM YOU SHOT THAT GUY !
>WHAT I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE ARAB DUBSTEP
I've looked that up, but am worried. I heard the card serves as verification for you being able to own a firearm. I want a mussle loader but that's fucked here as well with the card. Should I rely on your statement, say, legally? As in you had experience with it? Or should I talk to my lawyer?
Jesus Christ those shirts. I can only imagine the kinds of people who wear them. Fuck man, so bad.
>Visible from public property = fair game.
Can’t provide a cite and ain’t going to look it up, but the courts have ruled that a cameraman or photographer can’t film or photograph a “common citizen” without their permission, unless it can be justified as a “newsworthy event” (i.e. someone arrested for murder doing a perp walk).
If it’s not a newsworthy event, the subject of the film or photo must be a “celebrity or well know personage for which there is public interest”, which is how the paparazzi can legally film someone like Britney Spears in her backyard, but not you or me.
Even on public property, a common citizen can only be filmed or photographed if they are not the specific subject of the shot, such as one person among a bunch of people standing around watching a parade on a public street.
Drone Shooter Dude could have legally sued Peeping Drone Guy and won, had he somehow been able to know where the guy was and called the cops on him, etc.
>itt nobody thinks about a slingshot or paintball gun
He's a moron for shooting his gun at a non life threatening issue. Drones are flimsy trash. A paintball gun or slingshot would wreck one.
>You'd be hard pressed to hit a 2x2 target 100 feet in the air with either.
I doubt it was precisely 100 feet up. Probably more like 50. Are you telling me a handful of frozen peas loaded into a slingshot won't knock that thing for a loop?
>frozen peas loaded into a slingshot won't knock that thing for a loop
No I actually doubt that would do anything. I'd sooner get my shotgun out and blast it out of the sky in one shot then stand in my backyard lobbing a whole bag of peas at a flying robot.
>I'd sooner get my shotgun out and blast it out of the sky in one shot then stand in my backyard lobbing a whole bag of peas at a flying robot.
And you're the kind of person that makes gun ownership a continued struggle in the civilized world. If you crash it with peas or paint, you have complete deniability. If you shoot it, you're gonna end up like the guy in the OP and get on the news and in "trouble" for it.
Or you could build a drone hunter drone and deploy it to defend your airspace. Can't be that hard to attach something to a drone that could be trigger to sabotage other drones. Maybe even just a net it can release on command.
I was making a joke, I'd sooner shoot a gun at it then waste my time with peas. In reality I wouldn't be doing anything but maybe calling the cops I guess, though I doubt they could do anything.. or would do anything.
>Or you could build a drone hunter drone and deploy it to defend your airspace. Can't be that hard to attach something to a drone that could be trigger to sabotage other drones. Maybe even just a net it can release on command.
Now this is fucking radical.
[miniature A-10 drone killer intensifies]
>Not owning a 40mm glock and .50BMG deagle
Why do you ask?
In 1946 the Supreme Court acknowledged that the air had become a “public highway,” but a landowner still had dominion over “at least as much of the space above the ground as he can occupy or use in connection with the land.” In that case the court held that a plane flying just 83 feet in the air—the commotion was literally scaring the plaintiff’s chickens to death—represented an invasion of property. The justices declined to precisely define the height at which ownership rights end. Today, the federal government considers the area above 500 feet to be navigable airspace in uncongested areas. While the Supreme Court hasn’t explicitly accepted that as the upper limit of property ownership, it’s a useful guideline in trespass cases. Therefore, unless you own some very tall buildings, your private airspace probably ends somewhere between 80 and 500 feet above the ground.
>The justices declined to precisely define the height at which ownership rights end.
>the Supreme Court hasn’t explicitly accepted that as the upper limit of property ownership
>probably ends somewhere between 80 and 500 feet
And there's no way that home owner was hitting a drone at 500ft with buckshot. Most likely the drone was within his airspace and he defended his right to privacy and not having his home or daughter recorded without permission.
Dronefag was violating at least one law by having his drone hover over the house. Drones are not allowed to hover above buildings. Dronefag broke the law and invaded someone's privacy. If his drone was so expensive he shouldnt of been hovering over private property. In the report it says he hovered above the home then left and returned so it was not an accident he explicitly piloted his drone back to the home.
Home owner probably shouldn't of used a firearm but drone guy had no right to hover and record his house and or daughter. It's illegal to record a regular citizen >>28731970 like this anon said. He can cry about his $1800 robot but in the end he was a glorified peeping tom. Nobody has a right to just creep on people's homes like that.
I deal with a guy that has one every day.
They're annoying as fuck.
Keep your shit off my property and I won't shoot it, but fly it so much as an inch over my land and I'll take that thing down faster than a fucking Messerchmidt over the English Channel.
No but the way its described it sounds like he's just hovering and its admitted he had a camera on it so he had to at least record a little bit of the home plus the daughters photo shows it hovering. If drone guy was just flying by or something then yeah home owner fucked up. But if the home owner is to be believed and it came back to hover then that's what he had to be doing. Why else would drone guy come back over the home?
So you're saying I'm okay just murdering people over an annoyance?
No. Breaking their annoying as fuck piece of shit that they willingly fly into my property to stare at my shit, yeah, but killing them, no.
If that was the case I'd just go find and shoot the operator.
It's a DJI Phantom, they have a record button like everything else. It is not always on.
Playing Devil's Advocate here, people are very very quick to accuse drones of nefarious activity because SCARY TECHNOLOGY!!!
Again, maybe he was being a piece of shit, but we don't know ANY of the details apart from one picture where it was very high up and eyewitness reports.
Don't get me wrong anon drones are cool as fuck and are pretty sweet tools for shit it's just sometimes people are assholes with them but I agree drones get a bad wrap and paranoia and that's a shame really because they could be really useful.
My brother in law and I were working on arming one with an airsoft gun. Forget what kind of drone but the plan was to basically top or bottom mount the neccesary bits of weapon and basically aim it like pirate ships aimed cannons.
I'm unsure as to how to feel about this.
The guy's obviously a dipshit, and it turned out he discharged a gun in the city and destroyed a man's property for nothing, but he didn't *know* that, and had no real way of finding out.
>google "Depleted Uranium BuckShot"
>It's a thing
>faggot from /news/ comes and baits on years old news
>strawmans the shit out of everything
>/k/ stays reasonably tame
>naysayers continue to naysay
luv u /k/
Niggah if you breath some powder in for a while maybe
shits pretty heavy though so the dust would also settle relatively fast.
No, the two party political system is the reason for this. If we had no gun crimes, no idiots with guns, there still would be people against them. A minority of people making bad decisions can be used to try and make an arguement against a group or cause, but they are not the reason the conversation exists.
Fucking faggot idiot dicksuck magoo... You don't own the airspace above your house. I will fly my drone where I like and if you shoot it enjoy getting arrested and having all your guns taken away because you are now a felon.
I'm probably late to the party, but this guy looks like the kind of guy that would use a drone to spy on some guy's underage daughter.
A window doesn't counterdict a reasonable expectation of privacy. If it can't be seen from the ground or from 500 feet above ground level then you have the right to expect privacy. Illegally entering someones residential property and filming them is, at least in my state, a first degree misdemeanor.
As the property owner, why should I be responsible for the consequences of your inability to pilot well? I'd be even angrier if you send a machine onto my property that you knew you weren't entirely in control of.