looking for an entry level AR-15 that wont break the bank but isnt a pile of ass. Also open to other rifles chambered in 5.56
Ruger AR556. 799 MSRP, durable, full featured. Can be had for 600-700 new if you look, only downside is the factory stock sucks donkey dick (the butt looks like a breaching muzzle brake and doesn't grip the shoulder too well). Great bang for buck if you want fully assembled and full metal.
This if you're willing to put in a bit of effort to build and understand how your rifle works.
This if you want something that goes bang for cheap.
>Also, please don't, "/thread," your own posts. It makes you look pretentious.
I'm looking for a plain Jane a2 and building one is looking to be more expensive than some of these bargain rifles. Only I can't find any of them in stock and only delton has a2 uppers in stock.
You want a rifle length a2 looking gun?
>DI OPTICAL RV1 RED DOT SIGHT
>PSA MID L/W PREMIUM KIT
>TROY BATTLERAIL 9.0" BLK
>TROY REAR BATTLESIGHT
>B5 SYSTEMS BRAVO SOPMOD
>BLUE FORCE QD VICKERS SLING
>TOTAL COST: $1,150.00 USD
worth it when your getting....
Milspec+ Middy L/W Chrome Lined AR15 w/ Milspec Rail System & 2pt Military Quick-Adjust Sling & QD-Capability & Milspec Rear BUIS & Actual Military RDS that takes AA's
if you build the lower (<20 bucks of tools needed, it's easy as legos) and get an upper assembly then it's either less or the same price as a budget AR, but you'll know how your gun works, how to disassemble / clean / repair parts if they break, 10x better than some tard who bought a fully assembled cheap one.
And as the lowest price rifles are more likely to have a malfunction, that can be rather important.
The other main benefit is customizability, as you select exactly which barrel, handguard, sights, grip and stock you'll use, without paying any extra as the supply of base AR15 parts is so damn huge.
A free-floated quadrail AR with scope/red dot and a front handgrip certainly feels different than a basic vietnam style iron sights + handguard build.
Hell, if you're like most people, when you realize you can get it for 500-600, you might end up building one traditional and one 'tactical'
You can look around psa if they get their uppers back in stock. Their premium line uses fn barrels iirc. Do you specifically want a non removeable carry handle or a flat top?
>I hope no one takes this video as serious advice
As in what? Buying piston and other shit? Building a rifle is better than buying one generally.
Build you own, using used parts. There are plenty of place to get parts. You can get quality used items off of /k/, the equipment exchange on AR15.com, facebook, whatever. Just, it's much better to build it yourself.
A-15 isn't technically a DPMS model. Most of their stamped lowers have rollmarks which say A-15, but those lowers are used indiscriminately throughout their 5.56 lineup. What indicates different models are the furniture and upper accessory options.
What's your budget? You can get a colt hbar a2 for like $900-$1,000 which I doubt you're willing to spend.
Just don't get a delton. They're shit. My advice, just save up a little bit more and keep an eye out on palmetto when they do restock.
Any specific reason you want a fixed carry handle?
the video talks about swapping parts like its what needs to be done to a beginners rifle
the best way to go about getting a new ar goes something like this
there are rifles that you can buy that are under $850
>shoot your new rifle
irons and stock furniture are fine for a new buyer
>after a while of shooting, then you can buy some new parts
whether its a sight, new rail, etc.
>shoot your gun with new parts
a new ar owner shouldnt even worry about 1/2 the shit on that guys list until they become acquainted with their rifle, and at that point, you can build a entirely new upper if thats what you want
yeah, its actually p basic but i like it
its shit is whats wrong with them. whats your budget
>You can get a colt hbar a2 for like $900-$1,000
That'd be fine with me. The problem is availability not funds, I can't find anything else in stock. Looked at colt, dpms, and bushmaster first. Gimme a link and I'll have that on order tomorrow.
deltons the same as everything else is deltons budget price range
mediocre and functional
its not complete garbage
they dont explode or catastrophically fail except for one run of bcgs in 2012 or 13
Just a heads up, they're hbar which means heavy barrel. And some don't have threads on the barrel so you can't put a muzzle brake on it.
A colt hbar was the first ar15 I ever shot.
And if you do actually go through with buying one, here's a link for some good colt 20 round mags
post evidence showing why deltons shit instead of repeating its shit/garbage/trash
im not denying that better brands exist if hes got the budget for it he should buy something better
but in my experience delton is passable and functionally identical to my psa build
go ahead and buy it then m8. PSA is the cheapest one should go.
>its the same price mate
What are you trying to prove? They're the same price? Then it's a no brainer, get a psa. They have a better reputation.
Are you some delton shill or something? You're awfully defensive for such a shit brand, do you happen to own one and want to justify it?
>Are you some delton shill or something
sure im a shill whos highest praise for the product im supposedly promoting is that its mediocre
all i want is for trips to stop talking out of their ass if theres no proof to back it up
dont even care that its delton if he was shit talking colt/psa/bcm i would still want to know why its shit
>Most any rear sight
Cheap as shit, ~500 plus tax and FFL, fires perfectly fine. Save up for some magpul furniture (make sure they're OD green or tan so you look extra operator.) Obviously you're on a budget, so you're not going to get Daniel Defense-tier tolerances and quality, but if you just want an AR, or need a rifle fast, it's perfectly acceptable.
>People recommending $200 optics and shit
Rifle is fine. Rifle is better when you drop and extra 500-700 on it, but rifle is fine.
i dont like anime too, am i fuckin up your little world?
And if you watch the sales from lets say Palmetto State Armory, they have good deals on uppers all the time. They also have lowers that are complete on sale at least once a month. Just have an idea in your head as to what you want, watch the sales, if you have to get once piece at a time. I did this when I put together my first AR, and I still do it to this day. You will probably want to customize the furniture or whatever, but don't worry too much about that until you get a working boomstick.
>buying your gun twice because you're too much of a baby to do it right the first time.
Or you can just buy what you want the first time and build it yourself so you get better parts for cheaper and know exactly how the gun functions
i never said a person HAD to buy a 2nd upper, i was just pointing out how pants on head retarded that video was when the OP was looking for entry level ar's
a new owner shouldn't buy a entry level ar, then spend hundreds on unnecessary accessories. And like I said, the buyer should shoot the rifle how it comes for a while and get a feel for it, then they can move on to buying what they want.
Generally, lowers don't matter for the most part. Just avoid polymer and all other kinds of dumb shit and get a good quality milspec aluminum lower from anyone like
>axts if you like ambi
Most of your money is well spent on a good quality bcg and barrel, everything else really doesn't matter in terms of performance as much as both of those do.
You can get a pretty good upper from brands like
You're better off buying a complete upper rather than the parts to assemble it.
Assembling an ar15 is piss fucking easy. There's literally tons of videos online that will guide you through it.
Plus, you will actually know how your gun works when you do it. Don't be scared. For the upper reciever, it's literally putting it through two pins to connect it to your lower
Ah, okay. Thanks, because I knew the upper was easy, but some idiots (i suppose) at the range were complaining about the reassembly. I've done tons of different pistols, but I've only owned a 22LR rifle, and never disassembled it.
As others have said, go research youtube for 30 minutes and then just build your own rifle. Hell, there's tons of places with "custom" uppers with endless options.
In pic related, I built for $420 about six months ago, minus the Aimpoint Comp M2. It's fired about 1300-1500 rounds of wolf steel cased besides the initial 60 rounds of wolf gold.
>$190 PSA Upper
>$130 Anderson lower
>$100 BCG/CH combo from Wise arms
Since when is sportical a fucking word?