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>implying anyone uses IRC
#MEG on Freenode
If you're on mobile look up AndroIRC for the app. Any questions, ask in the thread to get you set up.
For Ranger info, obviously.
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.
For all Army SF info.
For Navy Corpsman info.
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.
For info on the Australian Defense Force, and how you can shitpost on the world stage
Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
Ask questions, answer questions, bitch about Air Force recruiters, accuse each other of stolen valor. Just keep it contained to this general you clucks.
Fun jobs that will let me station around the world as well as give me mental prep to drop a selection packet a few years down the line? College degree, 95 AFQT no line scores yet, interested in medicine, human intelligence, and flight.
I want to join the military, but there's no way I'd stand for this sort of shit.
I'm very hard-working and motivated. I don't need some fatass drill cunt shouting abuse at me. I won't fucking stand for it. I'd beat the shit out of him if he tried it on me.
>inb4 no you wouldn't
16 years of Judo
9 years of BJJ
4 years of boxing
Yes I fucking would.
I want to go into the division of my choosing and train specifically for the missions I want to do. For example, sniper or special missions involving hostage extraction.
It seems the only way you can do these sort of things is by starting at the bottom and spending a minimum of 4-6 years building your way up and through promotions.
Fuck that. I'm elite. I have a Masters degree and two black belts. I'd only do it on MY terms.
>inb4 this means you lack discipline and wouldn't be suitable
No, it demonstrably does not. Quite the opposite actually. I'm not some 16 year old falter who dropped out of high-school. I'm a finely tuned and well oiled machine.
I want my missions given to me in a fancy offices. I don't want to be told to grab a shovel because we're "digging in tonight".
There's a reason Drill Sergeants work in teams of 2-5. Maybe you could take one out, but they're all going to dogpile you and kick you in the nuts until you stop acting foolish. Drill Sergeants in 2016 are hardly ever authorized to actually lay hands on someone, but you can bet your ass there'd be no consequences for them ganging up to beat the shit out of you if you took a swing at them. You'd get punished though. Demoted or discharged.
But, yeah, you're a completely undisciplined civilian piece of shit. You're going to freak out and start throwing punches just from getting shouted at? Acting like a five year old is a liability on the battlefield.
It doesn't matter how skilled you are, you're a shit teammate so nobody worth working with would ever take you. I'll take a skinny 16-year-old High School dropout who knows how to control himself over a worthless hothead.
>people joining the navy when they can't swim
For what purpose?
So coast guard then
cuz thats what it sounds like
>I totally have the discipline already
yeah 3/4 of them or half of that already do, they signed up for it, suck it up butter cup every one has to go through it, you'll learn that the DI's only doing it for your benefit, 60+ years of Kodyokunt Ninjutsu not gonna prepare you for getting in a firefight with a couple of sand eaters taking crackshots at you from afar. And im not talking basic, that is if you say go into USMC for example, you would then go into SOI, them Battalion Recon Selection, Force Recon selection, then MarSOC Selection (Raiders i know i know i saw the article) and thats just for Marines. Im assuming what your looking for is probably POO in CIA, if your dumbass can even get through the fucking lifestyle polygraph. Assuming you browse the chan, out of the i think over 500+ questions on that polygraph, they'd give you some funky ass looks in that room.
incase your impatient glorified ass didnt read through all this
TLDR: fuck you your not special, suck it up, you can only be special by proving your worth and/or what this guy said>>28707256
Hi, I'm a 12 year old MW2 warrior. I'm tenth prestige and I've killed almost 30,000 Taliban. I've made try outs for only the most elite special forces units such as FaZe and OpTic. Chris Kyle said in an interview he studied my quick scope technique, but he still can't figure out how I am so good. Although I have never fired any sort of weapon other than my favorite nerf gun, I was wondering if Delta Force would be good enough for me or should I go to an even more elite unit such as Seal Team Six?
P.S. When I am 13 my mom said she might let me get my first air soft gun!
Hey is it just me or is it like next to impossible to even talk to a recruiter for the army right now?
>start enlistment on goarmy.com
>just want to talk to someone to answer a few basic questions
>spend the last month playing phone tag with some guy in Georgia trying to get any info
>they want me to fill PAGES AND PAGES of paper work online before they will give me an appointment or info
>guy stops taking my calls
>decide to just walk into my local recriters office and go from their
>the place is empty with a sing on the door that says to call some number to get directions to the new place
>call it a guy gives me a different number to call
>call it and its some landscaping company in Vermont (dead serious)
This was yesterday and im not sure what to do all i want is to talk to someone in person
Has anyone been in the Marine Embassy Security Group? I grew up living overseas in various countries and getting to be posted in places across the globe sounds pretty sweet. Is it a good gig? You are a smaller unit especially at small Embassies so is there less bullshit than being in a regular infantry unit?
am i wrong here /meg/?
posted this is the other airforce thread but I'll ask again here
>nothing special part time job
>want to be a sheriff but its a long wait to be possibly not even accepted into academy
>was told that joining military as MP would make me hate my life
>now considering joining to learn a trade to use
is my logic flawed like my friend here says? im just confused as hell right now
Hey /meg/ I was wondering, should I mention that I have been in the hospital before? I had pneumonia when I was 3 and have had no complications from it since.
I heard an anon from a previous thread say that you shouldn't bring it up but I never had heard that before.
ive seen a kid actually lose his shit and "attempt" to swing at his DI when i was stationed on PI back in 2012. He literally just raised his hand and gritted his teeth and i just waited for the follow through but nothing ever happened. Kid just sat there probably thinking they would have left him alone since in his mind he perceived himself going full super saiyan. The DI just semi-chimped out and started shouting "Hit me faggot fucking hit me". As far as i knew the kid was just processed out without even a stutter in the system so all the time he wasted in the first few months getting treated like shit was literally for nothing.
he probably comes to /k/ claiming to be recon or something
Hey guys. Finally made the decision, joining the Navy as a commissioned officer.
I was charged with marijuana possession, but came out as not guilty. Will this affect my entry into the program at all?
i'm just a pog and i hate my job AD with 7 years left until i can retire.
it doesn't matter what my job is anyway were full christmas tree and they are booting nonrates left and right even kids with 300 pft's/cft's and the like
Damn they're booting 300 PFT's? Is there any job security whatsoever in the Marines anymore? Hopefully we don't get Hillary or Bernie. Then we'll have like 10 fucking Marines the Navy takes around on a little tugboat
"Gud at running" is always pretty high on the list of reasons that people will see you as a good Marine/soldier.
It won't save you anymore if you do dumb shit though, like get a DUI. Also won't save you if your career field is evaporating and you're not able to find a place elsewhere.
Some law enforcement will see it as a negative, some will see it as a positive. Few will see it in a better light than other things you could do in that time (get a degree or civilian law enforcement experience).
It probably won't hurt you, it very well might help you, but it isn't a golden ticket to becoming a cop.
I was in Co-Teaching classes throughout middle school and highschool for ADHD(Which I don't have.) I plan on lying about my ADHD and my mental hospital visit.(Was also forced into because teacher showed the dean my drawings of knives and guns. They claimed I was making suicidal and homicidal remarks.)
Will they see my Co-Teaching classes and DQ me?
yeah against the fucking normies
you can try to enlist but you'll get shoved into either a full retard MOS like crypto or cryogewhatever tech and hate your very being for the next 4-5 years OR you'll get shat out into one of the MOS' that's extremely high demand low density and commit sodoku
unless theres another war then the military isn't really for anyone unless you have absolutely no other options
I just need a jump start on my life i have no car, live at home and only have 200 bucks and glock 17 to my name, ive always wanted to enlist but don't want a repeat of 4 more years of hating my life because i got a shit MOS
>unless theres another war then the military isn't really for anyone unless you have absolutely no other options
this. I'm so glad I got in and out when I did. I got a combat MOS, I got to go to war, I got to fire my weapon in combat. (I know that sounds a little strange to be pleased with that.) I think of my brother-in-law, who spent ten years in the Army between Desert Storm and the War on Terror. He didn't do shit.
So does this mean the Marines are the only ones actively recruiting? I still get occasional phone calls so this would be my guess
What are some Marine MOS that won't make me want to kill myself /meg/?
>So does this mean the Marines are the only ones actively recruiting?
All branches are actively recruiting. There are still plenty of recruiters who are lazy as fuck. That's probably what anon ran into.
>What are some Marine MOS that won't make me want to kill myself /meg/?
On some level, all MOS will make you want to kill yourself:
POG MOS are POG MOS and you'll be doing something that you could do elsewhere with more personal freedom and for more money.
Combat MOS will have you waste endless amounts of time just keeping busy since you'll likely never be deployed.
Will I have more fun with my buddies in one or the other?
Really I'm just looking for a good time and some cool experiences. And maybe a little money in my pocket to invest back home
Travelling would be cool too
Hey am i a bad guy for parking in the veterans only spaces at my mall? their allways open
>im not a veteran
I was an MSG as well. It was somewhat fucking spectacular until they started letting females in. Suddenly the parties at the house stopped and we got away with less and less until eventually it became just another duty station.
desperation is the hard father of resolute men. All MOS' are shit during peace time so don't let my negativity get you down. If you do join then go overseas and see the world then get at least 3 years of college out of it while your in and another 3 after you get out.
>All MOS' are shit during peace time
kek. Your daily reminder that peacetime vs. wartime is literally indistinguishable for most jobs in the military.
If you have a job in garrison, you have a job in garrison. If you don't have a job in garrison, you're sweeping rocks and life sucks.
>So do you guys acknowledge the fear/chance of death every single time you go to a mission?
It's probably different for everyone, but in my case, I didn't consider the possibility at all before going on patrols. It was strictly focusing on the job at hand.
It's after the fact, when you're doing your after-action reports you start mooning over how close you may have come to buying the farm.
>What are your tips on avoiding death?
I want to do Federal Law Enforcement, FBI, US Marshals, maybe something like domestic CIA.
Is it a good idea to join the military in order to gain experience working a federal service job, as well as have something worthwhile on your resume? Or should I just move more towards FLE straight off?
I also am not too opposed to joining simply to serve, I feel indebted to the nation by default.
He was obviously trolling you tubes of fucking custard
The idea of being on a massive fucking ship big enough for thousands of people to live on is that you don't need to swim
I want to join the military, but the random battlefield scares me. I dont wanna step on a claymore, or be the first to be shot at an ambush, or the target of a bunch of crazy soldier eyes, or not notice a sniper, or be the medics 2nd choice, etc...
I just want to decrease the chances of me dying as much as possible. Does joining the higher ranks like Delta decrease it?
Will they look at why I went? Im pretty sure if it said 'Drawing knifes and weapons in school' in reasons of admittance, they'd probably laugh. I plan on lying about the hospital part though
I have a question about NG and ANG. How does that work for the guys who are pilots or other super skilled jobs? Do ANG pilots just fly their F-16 or whatever once a month? Are they prior active primarily?
Just got back from taking the ASVAB....fuck that took forever. Recruiter told me it would be a 2-3 hour thing, it ended up being almost 9 from the time I left the house to the time I got back.
Anyways. I got an 85. How'd I do /meg/? What mos's should I look at, specifically in the navy?
You actually have a much higher chance of dying if you are an operator (hell, even Ranger) because they go on ridiculously dangerous missions, that's why they're special forces
Truck drivers often die as well when deployed
What about HUMINT fields or Psyops?
Those are the two that were very interesting to me.
I always liked the idea of long-range-reconnaissance, intelligence collection, and having to converse with locals or use resources.
Is there a job in the military that does this that is below Green Berets and SOF positions?
Hey i was at fort Benning a couple month ago as a civilian and was wondering what MOS is the security guards that man thoes toll both like checkpoints to get on base. Didn't think they were MPs
PSYOP is SOF. You go to a selection and everything.
35M is HUMINT, but in the current environment it isn't really going to get you any valuable experience.
Honestly, a large portion of investigative work today is in digital forensics and other tech fields. You'd probably be far more attractive to federal law enforcement with a military computer job than something in HUMINT.
Well what I meant by federal law enforcement is more federal agent and hands on man to man intelligence work.
I'm more attracted to the field-intelligence half of SOF than I am to any of the combat or "operating" every one seems to be more interested in it for.
If I wanted an IT job, I would just apply somewhere in the business world.
talked to recruiter today, specifically about 35series. good luck getting 35M or 35P right now. there's a couple slots for G and N, i currently am in the process of signing another MOS that seems cool and has a nice bonus.
the question is: should i ask for option 40 with it? 48G, you already touched on it a bit in the last (less shitty) thread. here's my plan, dissect it please (also Nov Rain or Ricky, if you're on)
35F opt 40, do my time for a couple promotions, request to switch to 35L, do that for as long as possible, WO in 35x (fox if i dont transfer to lima), or just retire and apply at alphabet? thoughts? i'm scheduled for ASVAB and DLAB next week
But I know people really think like this.
And I revel in the fact that people that think like that don't go and do these things, because they are inherently selfish. And that doesn't work in a team environment where your life is in the hands of the rest of the team, and theirs in yours.
But still 8/8
I'm a warrant in army flight school. Don't enlist. If you do do the absolute minimum for the GI bill. Don't feel pressured by recruiters. If you're young try to be mature and ask yourself if you really want to be in the military. Just saying I regret enlisting immediately after high school and not going to college, only caveat is I got to deploy which was worth it in its own sense
It will probably be a hurdle but if you were found not guilty you will probably still be able to join
some departments like guys who were grunts for some reason but apparently MPs are actually undesirable for civilian police work because you have to unlearn everything and learn the different way
If you think any president is going to successfully reduce the military a significant amount you are wrong. NATO and the UN relies on the US military. The government knows this and even if they say "peace and love, reduce the military!" they won't do it.
Not if you really want to, but the money is not much and for the relatively limited benefits you receive you are still about as likely as active units to deploy if there is a war.
Random huge chaotic battlefields are mostly a thing of the past. City warfare is still a possibility though. And you can't just join an elite unit, and furthermore, especially now, they die a lot more than regular infantry do.
another "cool" job she told me about was 35Q. she said its new, and currently everyone in it are basically just training or updating our systems and stuff, but its going to be huge in the next few years. throwing that out there for the nerdy types. another one is 25N, fantastic bonus right now
>You probably won't net much money-wise.
In fact you'll probably end up spending money depending on how far away your unit is. Gas is really low now (first time I can remember it being under $2 a gallon since I started driving more than a decade ago), but it's a bitch when your unit is an hour away and gas is $4 a gallon.
>I have a question about NG and ANG. How does that work for the guys who are pilots
A Natty Guard Apache and Blackhawk unit was doing a rotation in Kuwait while I was there (let them sit in on some stuff, in return we got to sit in the Apache and take photos) to get their required hours. So they were flying patrols in the Gulf and shuttling people between camps.
He's right homie, we (the US) places a lot of our bets on Technical Collections.
We always have since a permanent IC became a thing post WWII.
HUMINT is super important, and if I was DNI collections would be more spread out among traditional HUMINT and technical collections.
But that's reality. FYI The Army is pushing out 35Ms (HUMINT collectors) as we speak.
>do my time for a couple promotions, request to switch to 35L, do that for as long as possible, WO in 35x (fox if i dont transfer to lima), or just retire and apply at alphabet?
1. Don't make any plans beyond your initial enlistment. You can't guarantee what's going to happen between the time you get out of AIT and the time your initial contract ends.
So all that's going to happen from you planning to enlist as a 35F, then go to CISAC (which is probably more likely than not only because right now there is a push for Limas), then go WOC as a 350x, is you're likely to be disappointed. Circumstances are going to come up, you might not be set up for success by your chain of command, deployments might come up that prevent you from reclassing (was going from 35F to 35M when they first started talking about sending Mikes to DLI, but then an Iraq deployment came up and I got shit on for even thinking I was still going back to Huachuca) etc.
2. Even with the MI experience, you're going to need a four year degree minimum (two year for contractor). And keep in mind unless you're an officer and you're working on or have your graduate degree, you'll be starting back at the bottom as a civilian and your peers are going to be kids who went straight from high school to college and then applied for jobs in the IC.
yes absolutely, more of an idea than a concrete plan. and i should have mentioned also that i want to try to work on my degree while i'm active and then finish it once i'm out.
and yeah i'd go lima right now if they took civilians. like you said, it might all change. i'm usually against nepotism and shit like that, because its never in my favor, but i actually have a few contacts in the intelligence community, and i plan to aggressively pull those strings if i want something or if i have to
>im usually against nepotism unless it favors me
>and yeah i'd go lima right now if they took civilians.
They used to (I came in when this was changing so I got boned out of my CI slot), and I don't understand why they changed it because they could just send kids who couldn't hack it out to another school house (not at all uncommon on Huachuca, plenty of Electronic Warfare Repair kids ended up switching to other MOS when they couldn't make it through their school).
>but i actually have a few contacts in the intelligence community, and i plan to aggressively pull those strings
Networking is important, but they aren't going to be able to get you a job you aren't qualified for.
The only advantage of enlisting into an intelligence MOS is that it gives you an idea of what the job entails, gives you an understanding of intelligence as a process (intelligence cycle, collection management, analytical tools etc.), and you can decide if you want to keep doing it.
Unless you go to some super secret squirrel SMU or go to Great Skill, there really isn't anything you're going to do that's going to get you that far above the same level of kids coming in straight out of college. Sometimes you won't even get veterans preference/points, CIA doesn't do that for example.
For anyone wondering no shave chits are fun, especially as a white guy, but it's not quite worth having 5-6 staff ncos ask you if you shaved or to see your chit every day
I suck at running. 1.5 mile in 13 minutes on my best day. Can't run more than that without slowing down to a walk for a break. Not fat, not completely weak, been running for several months. Just can't get better.
Suggestions? I leave for US Air Force basic in 4 weeks. How fucked am I?
recruiter said they stopped letting it be an entry level MOS because they wasted a bunch of time and money on immature kids that couldn't hack it
they request you be at least an e5 now before considering you
All the dick you can handle.
And it's dark, so when it's your turn to be the girl you can just pretend that you're sucking tranny dick.
>because they wasted a bunch of time and money on immature kids that couldn't hack it
It's a bullshit excuse really, because they can send them down the road to the 35F, 35M, or 35G schoolhouse.
>"Okay, Anon, why do you want to become an officer in the United States Army?"
If you can't stand to be humiliated and dehumanized, you shouldn't enlist. There is absolutely no reason to enlist if you value your current self at all.
Army doesn't just let you kill people for free, you must obey your command and become an unopinionated tool with no sense of self worth. Not mindless, just ego-less.
What is the gist of the 35M job description?
>20, had surgery so can't join until steel is removed in 2 and a half years
>about to finish two year degree, two more years and will finish Bachelor, then get bars out soon after
>want to join Army, learn job skills if I can't get into Law Enforcement for some reason
So what MOSs are good choices? I'm looking at Combat Engineer and Intel, any other good ones? Scored a 93 on ASVAB in high school without really trying, if that matters. Assume I have to take it again?
if you mean 35L, that's counterintelligence agent. you go solo on 1 month deployments to weird places and fish around for weaknesses worth exploring or exploiting. basically a real life james bond, but more realistic
because they thought it would be a glamorous job thinking they'd be doing super cool spy shit. in reality its writing a lot of reports and maintaining a 2/2 language proficiency and other shit
I wanna shoot big guns and make big explosions. Think tanks, artillery, navy guns, etc. Will have a four year degree (Comp. Lit, kek), so I definitely would prefer to get a commission.
1. What is the easiest non-infantry ground combat commission to get (least amount of training)?
2. Is there anything in the Navy or CG akin to an arty officer?
the doctors at MEPS actually encourage you to disclose your hyperactivity so that they can stick you in their more elite units. once you get to these units, there's an almost unlimited supply of dextromethamphetamines, to make you a more focused soldier.
>Implying most CI agents aren't spending their time briefing "The insider threat" to random assortments of soldiers at every post.
It's disingenuous to characterize CI as James' Bond shit. They're the dudes making sure that foreign intelligence isn't getting its fingers in all our pies. Most of the time, that means investigating how PFC Snuffy, a junior intelligence analyst, suddenly has enough money to buy a $60,000 car.
It's good work, it's important, even cool to people with the right mindset, but it isn't being a top secret superspy. One of the best jobs in the military to get you into a fed investigative job afterwards though.
Tardanon doesn't know what he's talking about.
I know half a dozen soldiers currently taking ADHD meds on active duty, and provided by the military.
You can't get in with it, but if you develop it while in service it isn't cause for separation. They just treat it.
>What specifically is the challenged face that they couldn't overcome?
Sitting in a car for a week straight doing surveillance, drinking cold coffee, and waiting for some fucker to show up that may or may not do so.
The ASVAB is a percentile based on prior scores of everyone else who's taken it.
If you get a 50, you're in the middle. If you get a 90, you're better than 90% of people who've taken it. If you get a 25, you're better than 25% of people who've taken it, etc.
An 82 will qualify you for almost every job.
Recruiters will greet any score over 50 with...
>W-wow, anon, I've never seen such a big score like that before. With a score like that you could do anything you want! You could even get <insert shitty job I'm having trouble filling>. That's only for tier 1 recruits!
Literally everyone with a HS diploma and a non-retard ASVAB is a "tier 1" recruit. A score of 80~ will open most things up, depending on your line scores. A score of 90~ will open pretty much everything up. They're not exceptionally rare. You have to remember that most people in the bottom 20-30% don't even qualify to join for other reasons (didn't graduate, constantly high as fuck, already in jail, have a bunch of kids, died of the dumbs at the age of 14, etc).
i dunno if anyone has any questions for particular jobs in the army that I can answer. i work in motorpool as a 91F. if you were wanting something in the 91 series, i can help answer some questions about what youll most likely do.
Most branches allow you to join up until your mid-30s or so. Air Force is now capped at 39, I believe.
You will be "the old guy", and you will have people 10+ years younger than you directly in charge of you. If you can deal with that and still want to do it, go for it.
>have a history of asthma (not really) from when i was a fat little child.
>mom thought i had asthma because i was so out of shape.
>parents die, get it cleared, but cant get a misdiagnoses because doc loss his license.
>In JROTC doing great and currently getting into shape for the army.
Should i lie? i have never had an attack and im great health.
if you want to learn job skills, what jobs are you interested in? signal corp jobs are good for when youre out, any kind of computer job. if you like more tradework, go 91 series.
Really just about any, from the law enforcement folks I've talked to my chances are pretty damn good in that field. I've always wanted to go military though, and figured a MOS like 13b would give me at least a little fall back room. There's a 13b vet in my classes, and he seemed to have enjoyed his time over seas.
I have really bad astigmatism and I'm left eye dominant while being right handed.. how hard would it be for me to handle a rifle?
Old Guard usually recruits from infantry. Number one requirement? Be born right.
Seriously, they have very stringent height/build requirements. You have to look the part, and some things you can't train.
are you stuck on a combat MOS? i mean, theres nothing wrong with it, just dont expect that to do much for you when you get out. because theres not really a civilian cannon crew job out there. if you want to travel, it doesnt matter what MOS you pick as long as its not like, a desk job where you have a chance of getting stationed in TRADOC. ive been in for a bit over a year, already sent to SC, GA, VA, TX, and Germany, ill be deploying to Bahrain this year and im a support MOS. if you want to travel. any job will do that for you
>"I think you'd love the infantry, anon!"
What did he mean by this?
sure, whatever, here's your reply
>My squadron (or whatever you army fags have as equivalent) leadership has been pushing me to sign up more infantry slots
>you're clearly barely functional in terms of intelligence and/or life skills, so here's the one job you'll probably be able to do at a semi-passable level!
I mean, I'm not necessarily stuck on a combat MOS but it would be better than a desk job. Travelling would be nice, I guess I'm still just shopping around since I've got a couple more years.
nope, i shoot through my left. i use my non dominant eye and im just fine. a year later, went to re qualify on my weapons and did just about the same. its easy. and you should go shooting enough while youre in to adjust and be more confident in your marksmanship
im a 91F and i love it. (small arms and artillery repairman.) ordnance is a lot of fun and isnt just sitting at a desk all day. the people i see that seem to be happiest with their jobs are usually the low density MOS. im friends with a lot of the CBRN guys and despite all the crazy shit they have to do. they all love their job and get to do tons of cool stuff. if you want to do law enforcement, why not join MP? itd be a good feel for the job.
what would be the best job in the military for a lazy elitist ivy league grad with fascist sympathies?
preferably something dangerous, I don't really care about my future (is chemical warfare still a thing?)
I'm a philosophy major if it matters, my GPA is a 2.2
yeah man, go for it. you go through so many exercises in basic for marksmanship, its pretty hard not to pass. we had 128 people go through, and 0 failures. this included people never holding a weapon before and ones that were scared to shoot. good luck, you'll be just fine
that 18E still around? I was curious about how often infantry/SF guys get traumatic brain injury and if it's more often for one or the other, etc.
go 14T or 14E and maybe airborne? if youre an elitest cunt. airborne is somewhat prestigious in the military even though its not as big of a deal as they make it sound. but a patriot missile defender is just people who sit in an air conditioned box and wait for a blip on the radar and then shoot a missle at it. but they get to feel important and do things without actually ever doing anything.
Main reason is that some of the instructors at academies I've talked to all said that some departments like military service except for MPs because they don't want to have to retrain guys who learned law enforcement for a military setting into a civilian setting. Dunno if that's always the case, but I figure something else might be safer.
that makes sense. but just having some sort of military background should make you more qualified, regardless of the MOS. shows you should have some discipline and what not. id say at this point, do what interests you the most. and dont let the recruiter talk you out of what you want. i picked my job, said it wasnt available. i turned around and walked out, told them to call me when a slot was open. i got half way to my car in the parking lot and he ran out saying a slot just opened with airborne ranger contract and a bonus. so dont listen to them say no for what you want to do.
every time ive gone to the field and training. theres never been a 35fox there. they may not work in normal units though. theyre probably at like, brigade or division stuff. i dunno, never met one personally. cav scout is interesting. its a lot of hard work to earn your spurs. but at the last military ball i went to, there were a bunch of them that i got to talk to. theyre all crazy bastards, so yeah, probably. they had some badass dress uniforms though
Leaving tomorrow for MEPS.
Shooting for 35G. 35N, 35F are my fallbacks.
Ah, I see it was all just a clever ruse.
"Snipe hunting" isn't hunting snipers, but rather, a north american rite of passage and prank where chaps fool their friends into hunting non-existent birds.
Well played. I am absolutely laughing my ass off at this right now.
with 35N you get to do things like go out and place all the surveillance gear and then listen to the enemy and sort the good info from the useless stuff. 35G you find enemy locations and make maps about how big their things are.
most jobs will do that over time. you get good ear pro though for artillery. im the 91F, im a small arms and artillery repairman. i work in the motorpool and fix guns and do services on them. i love it, personally. a lot of it depends on your unit though.
eh, basic shouldnt be too bad, they might try and get you to eat a lot more to put on some weight. you may not like some of the buddy carry portions or some of the rucking. but those are over pretty quick and then youre done with it. you should be good to go over all though. its going to suck, but itll suck regardless of your body type.
>went open contract electrical for the USAF
>preference leaned against not going into combat or going into the middle east
>get slotted for 2A2X2
>wake up to my alarm and hear on the radio 101st Airborne is deploying in Kuwait / Iraq
war is hamburgers
i just want my taxpayer tears
I'm really curious. I don't know shit about military, so I'm gonna sound like a fucking idiot to you guys,
How do military "missions" work? Does some higher ranking officer just tell you give a debriefing on a mission? Do you have to be deployed in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Whateverstan in order to do a certain job or is it just for special certain stuff? And, once you trained for a certain branch, can you just go to another branch no problem or do you have to do the ~1 year training all over again? Do you have any special forces experience or is it "2classified4u" stuff?
Anyways, why did you join the military anyways? And for those already in the military, was it worth it? Is it fun and horror mixed together? If you hate the war experience, why are you still fighting? Is there a contract or something that says "YOU HAVE TO DO [AMOUNT OF TIME] IN ORDER TO ESCAPE THE CORPS"?
i don't know shit about the military, like i said. i'm not a CoDbabby who wants to go shooty and tooty. i'm not even a U.S. citizen, so we don't even have the same army rules.
why you gotta be so rude, man?
Looking for advice.
I got a 93 on my ASVAB (AFQT) and took the C SORT and got in the 80s percentile. I'm smart and have heart I just struggle with the physicality portion required to pass the PST. I'm a good swimmer and push ups/sit ups are good. I'm struggling with pull ups and running. All I need is to make it to the SEAL prep course because I know I'll get in amazing shape there.
yer welcum, but no seriously, just gradually add things to your run, like an extra 5 min a day
and I've been where you're at exactly as far as running, just not thinking about it and doing what my coach told me helped me make varsity XC my first year
Dunno about how often, but it definitely happens
>AWACS takes off with 2 trainers & a student
>immediately nosedives inna drank
>impossible to avoid running them the fuck over
Can't remember if they ever found the bodies. Recovered the dish tho, so there's that.
I've never really used a Bi-pod(Mostly a fudd, not really by choice, just coincidence, and limited funds), but wouldn't putting your feet on the bipod like that, make it easier to accidentally shift your aim?
(Yes, I know I'm questioning a picture with an anime girl, meant to turn people on. Just got me actually curious)
Thats why the bipod is shoved up against the rail, its not going anywhere. When you shoot the mk19, thats how most people shoot when its mounted on a tripod. When you shoot the m249 you usually want the bipod pressed up against a wall or sandbags to reduce recoil. But i dont think an anime image is going to give you too accurate of a representation on proper marksmanship.
if I've signed up to take MEPS and the ASVAB is there anything preventing me from backing out? My recruiter talked me into one of those temporary reservation MOS deals where I go test for the specific MOS I'm interested in and if everything goes well I sign that day. Everything seems great but when I showed my friend(retired career Army) the reservation document, she said that they are lying to me and that the MOS I'm interested in is actually selected as my third choice
One where you don't serve your country.
IE, none of them.
Until you swear in, you can back out. Also, just make sure the MOS you want is on your contract before you swear in at meps. They usually have you read the contract and review it to make sure its correct. If a different MOS is on there than what you selected. Dont do it. Make sure you get what you want.
Oh ok, so I'm good then. Probably going to walk into that recruiter's office this morning and rip that fucking reservation in half. The whole process has left a sour taste in my mouth
>told have to sign in 7 days or lose chance at MOS
>confusion over option 40 and dual citizenship...needless to say I'm not renouncing my Swiss citizenship over a try out, so no option 40
>high stress sales tactics behind closed doors
>recruiter even went as far as calling me a pussy yesterday if I was thinking of backing out after MEPS and ASVAB
>told I have to do MEPS, ASVAB, and sign same day
>is supposed to happen next Monday
that shit isn't happening if I can stop it
Pic related is what my friend had to say when we sent her a pic of the reservation document
The reservation document just reserves the MOS and ship date that you want. Basically after 7 days its no longer reserved for you and anyone can grab it. You can go to MEPS, do your physical, take your ASVAB, and then if you dont like your contract, you can just say you dont want to sign and go home. No penalties at all. Only sign that contract if you want. Dont let your recruiter bully you. It's his job to give you what you want. If he's being a dick just tell him to fuck off. And enjoy it. You wont be able to tell an NCO what to do for a long time if ever. You'll never see this guy again after you ship.
>You'll never see this guy again after you ship.
That happens in the Army? In the AF you usually can get non-chargeable leave to assist your recruiter after tech school through a program called RAP, and it doesn't happen if your recruiter didn't like you. Maybe Army recruiters are just shit pham.
Huh. Maybe thats if you have a delay between AIT and your first duty station...? I havnt heard much about that. I thought it was just once youre in youre in and doing your own career.
How do you keep your uniform from getting crumpled during transport?
Every parade night, we get our kit inspected, and although the creases from getting to the barracks and changing are passed over, I want to know how to do it perfectly.
Vacuum bags? I don't know.
Well I can get the argument that most kids think they are going to be Jason Bourne or James Bond, but if they do and they don't realize that you could be literally sitting in a car for a week straight, sleeping, pissing in Gatorade bottles, drinking shitty old coffee, and eating terrible sandwiches it might not be exactly what they thought it was.
Just took asvab. Got 99. Now navy is pushing me hard to go nuke. Any reasons not to? Also looking at army's 35 and 97 series.
Last but not least the nuke I talked to said alot of colleges take the things learned in nuke school as credits and so on. How true is that?
>people joining the Marines when they can't swim
Granted you will be taught, but ding-dongs should not be fucking surprised when there's a thing called "swim qual." Just where the fuck do you think "Marine" come from? The fucking mountains?
People that join the Marines are kids that bought into movies and video games way too much.
The reasons that make the Marines a shit type branch also attract these weird kids.
Smallest Branch with the Smallest budget.
That's a shit type thing but they spin it like "few and the proud" and "do more with less"
It's a pride thing.
Why else would you deliberately choose the worst living conditions?
Or how about it's built around being fucking tough no matter who the fuck you are. Yes, I'll concede that Marines attract the black sheep of the strangest places, but it's that very fact that we are black sheep is what makes us strong. Yeah, life sure can suck ass sometimes, but fuck man, the things I've witnessed what we can accomplish from our discipline, fear, and/or camaraderie.
But this is all just moto garble to you anyway, so I challenge you to actually get around some Marines (the plural here is key) in a training environment. POG or grunt, it won't fucking matter.
If you have a four-year degree, strongly consider going in as an officer. I say this because LCpl and the 2ndLt joke is very true plus the SNCO's who absolutely know what they're doing become an officer/WO later on anyway.
You can't get Recon as a guarantee per se, but you can get your recruiter to get you a slot for the school. Make sure you sign, at the very least, an infantry contract. NOTHING OPEN CONTRACT. Oh and don't be surprised if you can't make it through MART (this is before BRC) and then get placed in an entirely different field, i.e. not 03xx.
The M240B is fucking heavy. I remember when I had to lug that bitch around at SOI and while I felt cool, I also was hurting. Expect to hump, hump and hump some more for miles on end (and possibly steep terrain depending on where you're sent) with 70+ lbs. of shit that you might not ever pack just right so the weight will feel even more uneven and dreadful.
I haven't even touched on the fuck-fuck games, although none of this should matter, if you are SERIOUS. You will doubt yourself, even question why you even signed the dotted line; everybody at some point does. Best advice for you is to NEVER quit. Dead serious. I don't care about circumstances, life threatening or whatever.
>lazy elitist ivy league grad with fascist sympathies
You're a sack of shit and a waste of breath. Seriously, how much time money did you waste for that god awful GPA?
And to answer your question, go become a combat engineer.
>Know nothing about military at all. Only got interest in the latest month.
How much would a salary for a special unit soldiers be? I understand this may wary extremely but does anyone have any examples? Also, would a sniper be paid more than a ground soldier even if they work in the same task/area?