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On what planet is this okay?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSKSpGDLAAg
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What fucking part?
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Someone post the facebook post of the gunsmith who refuses to work on them.

It's golden.
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>>28697042
>MAC
What did you expect?
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>>28697132
Boresight Solutions and Travis haley chiming in.
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>>28697042
It's for frosty range days.
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>sour grapes the thread
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>>28697221
>Willfully spending money on gucci shit that isn't very well made.
Sour grapes, none. Form follows function.
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>>28697042
Hold the fuck on, it somehow directs muzzle blast back down the length of the handguard?

How do you even do this?! Did MAC at least comment on it?
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>>28697221
>Patented FireShield technology keeps your support hand from icing up in the harshest winter conditions. Available as an option for $860 in 2016 only from Salient Arms.
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>>28697235
>wahhh i cant afford it its shit

You right now. Just save your allowence you'll be able to get one eventually.
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>>28697309
I can't afford an AK milled from solid gold, does that mean it isn't complete shit versus other things I could buy for that much?
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>>28697265
the front part of the rail is removable and covers up the muzzle break
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>>28697309
>wahh if you don't spend everything you have on useless crap you're not rich.
Spot the poorfag.
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>>28697413
Okay, follow up question, do they even test the shit they build?
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Salient is dead
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>>28697433
>Modify a design that's already g2g from a design and multi-decade development standpoint.
>Gold plate a bunch of shit and drill holes/cut chunks out of the design.
>Call it excellent and premium upgrades.
Literally the design process of niggers. What a horrible goal for a company.
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>>28697042
Does he say anything about it in the video?
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>>28697433
it really seems like their products are designed to look cool or by engineers who know how to model with a computer but dont know shit about shooting
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>>28697492
>Video completely centered on shilling a product.
>Mentioning glaring issues that appear in the video.
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>>28697510
>Engineers who know how to model.
Engineers don't model this bullshit, unprofessional and inexperienced faggots with a SolidWorks Commercial license do.
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>>28697221
>People don't like over priced shit that clearly has quality control issues.
>"lol stop being poor"

Sorry people don't like wasting their money on bullshit.
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>>28697510
gonna be honest. that's the whole reason why I want Salient's rails. If they did sell them separately I'd be on them in a flash.
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We should get the ATF to rule Salient's Jailbreak device a suppressor.
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>>28697563
>Wanting the ATF to re-define what a suppressor is.
Yeah and watch them flip around and stab you in the forehead with the knife you just gave them.
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>>28697309
Shitty shit is shitty shit. If something's not made right, it's shit, and this is what all this is. It belongs in the fucking ocean, with fishes feasting on it, instead of on someone's hip.
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>>28697042

Literally what the fuck is going on? Did the gas block come loose???
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>>28697521
It's an honest question, does he say anything when his hand gets bathed in burning gunpowder?
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>>28697544
just cause someones an engineer doesnt stop them from being unprofessional and inexperienced
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>>28697617
No.

The handguard covers the sides of muzzle devices and redirects all the gasses from the muzzle device ports, down the hand guard.
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>>28697623
Define engineer. I'm going to bet they don't have a single one in their shop, everything about their design screams ricer fuccboi. Not with all of the backwards fucked up problems they've had from unnecessarily breaking solid designs.
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>>28697042
>russian+italian
>beautiful over price gun

>american+michael bay+ italian
>ugly bullshit over price gun
what went wrong?
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>>28697510
>>28697544
yeah dude, engineers know some shit about expanding hot gases out of a barrel, damn if all engineers where as bad as that the hoover dam would have already exploded
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>>28697618

No he does not. He continues right on shilling. I noticed the flames when I first saw the video and had to watch again to make sure it was real.

Salient Arms looked like over priced poorly thought out garbage as soon as they came into the market with their "custom" Glock packages. It's well marketed nonsense for guccigear morons.
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>>28697578
The ATF has already defined what a silencer is. Anything that reduces sound wave pressure by 3dB.
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>>28697042
It's a hand warmer for operating inna winter.
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>>28697640
>The handguard covers the sides of muzzle devices and redirects all the gasses from the muzzle device ports

Ok, I just have a plain ass mil-spec AR, and I don't really care too much about the latest tacticool AR stuff, so excuse my ignorance, but isn't that the purpose of the muzzle device itself? Did nobody on the design team actually fire one of these and see the problems that having muzzle blast flashing across your supporting hand could cause?

Who buys this shit?
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>>28697732
>The ATF has already defined.
Have you ever followed their track history before? They change definitions all the time.
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>>28697042
Furthermore why does it look like hes just blasting down the hall of some abandoned office building?
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>>28697735
it's meant for people with muzzle brakes who might later be shooting in a place where a muzzle brake would make for unhappy thoughts. ie. when people are near you or you're in an indoors range

since you just have what I assume is an A2 flash hider you don't really understand
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>>28697769
>Using a muzzle brake for 5.56 and not owning a suppressor.
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>>28697769
not him

I have a Miculek brake on my SW MP15 and that thing definitely makes my rifles louder and puts out a more noticeable pressure wave. Compared to the M16 and M4s I used in the Army.
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>>28697296
What in the actual fuck is going in that .gif?
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>>28697769
Well, I suppose that makes sense, just seems like a real dumb idea to have the blast hitting you in the hand every shot. Also
>Shooting at an indoor range
no thx
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>>28697781
>working a suppressor with supersonic load
>ever
superessor make gun over gas, over heat, and center of gravity shift forward
they are over hype and over price
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>>28697899
>overgas
Adjust your gas system with your loadings, faggot.

>overheat
Quit magdumping like a faggot.

>center of grav shift forward
Tape fishing weights to your butt to offset.

They are overpriced though, but that's an artificial creation.
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>>28697952
>>28697899
>implying overgas is a problem.

All Slav semi autos are over gassed to ensure that they work.
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>>28698032
>slav semi autos
We're talking about AR's, not clanky clank stamped guns that are overgassed for a fucking reason.
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>>28697042
I kinda feel bad for MAC, people seem to tear him and his videos apart more than other gun yt channels. Other than the

>muh tavor iwi is da best

His videos are ok
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>>28698097
>Agreed to shill a product deliberately marketed to idiots with spare change.
He's set himself in a poor direction. Good products sell themselves, they don't need grandstanding like this crap.
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>>28698097
>DA JOOS!
>SHILL!
that's the only criticism they can give him.
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>>28698097

He does put out decent videos and some good info...however he frequently shows some not so subtle bias for certain guns and manufacturers...and they are frequently from sponsors or companies that have played nice with him and invited him to factory tours etc.
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>>28698056
>Clanky clank

Bait
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>>28698129
I guess they should get rid of product descriptions too because all they are is text-based shilling.
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>>28698167
Which makes him no better than a salesman, which means you'd be better off spending time watching TV.
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>>28698178
>implying
I fucking love my 74, clanky clank indeed, the gun is fun as fuck.

>>28698181
No. Selling a product designed around glitz and glamor and not actually being functional as a primary goal the problem here.
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>>28697706
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>>28697310
In 82nd
Deployed with 101st
Named guy
That guys life sucks...
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>>28698182

He's not quite that bad which actually makes it more difficult to like him. I can accept someone outright trying to sell a product. MAC can be objective and give a good review, but then he'll plug some bullshit like the Salient Arms finger roaster 9000 here or go throw a handgun against steel plates and call it a durability test.
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>>28697889
>outdoor range
>it has roofs and walls for each station
same problem. sound is going to be bouncing off that shit right back at you
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just so everyone understands how a muzzle device reduces muzzle rise....
this will no do so at all, will redirect hot gasses back onto the barrel and handgaurd causing gun to heat up fast, deposits all your unburnt powder on the outside of your barrel, but should reduce the flash and even noise
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>>28697762

I'm liking the hand sanitizer in the background.
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>>28698355
That was my first thought when watching the video

>So it makes your compensator not work?
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>>28698355
This. Willing to bet money SAI doesn't have anyone beyond Thermo I on their payroll.
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>>28698392
I don't think they claimed anything otherwise.
The way I saw it was it lets you switch between a comp and a directional flash hider ala flaming pig or similar.
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>>28697309
>defending your bad purchase this hard
>calling anyone else poor
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>>28698225

Watch the video.

Assailant arms highpoint
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>>28697886
He was showing how an animal acted that attacked them if I remember correctly.
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>>28697178
Based God Haley has spoken.
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>>28698355
>>28698392
if this is your first time seeing the concept yes it's meant to make your muzzle device be less effective (and also less loud to everyone else). see: surefire warden, vg6 cage, ferfrans cqb, griffin blast shield, lantac bmd, etc. you put it on and pull it off as needed.

>>28698446
that's exactly what it does. makes it more like a linear brake.
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>>28698570
Doesn't take a chubby ex-super operator to spot bad craftsmanship.
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Salients price or design isn't the issue... At the moment they are currently hemorrhaging as a company. People who actually spend money with them have been continually fucked around, and haven't gotten product that has been paid for at least a year. Many people are moving on to some of the aftermarket companies that actually provide some level of service.

They still take in money while not delivering product, and have pissed of quite a few customers, especially in the last two months. It looks like now they are leaning on other companies help them survive. While I'm not surprised MAC did a video for them, I am disappointed. From what he said, it appears that he was lied to as much as everyone else.

>Just finished up a move
That apparently took a year, and a move in which they lost many customers guns.
>in house manufacturing
I lol'd at that, as I know exactly what machines their stuff has been running on since the beginning, and they are definitely not located at salient

Maybe the Stryk will get them the necessary cash flow to survive as a business, but I have my doubts.

Salient is the embodiment of "fake it 'till you make it", and we will see how that works out for them.
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>>28698594
gets hot during use? so once its on its staying on... i dont get what purpose this would serve over just using the proper muzzle device in the first place
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>>28698595
haley is the skinny one with the tight pants
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>>28698649
tight pants tight groups
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>>28698649
whoops, it's late.
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>>28698645
salient's execution is different from the other companies whose blast devices mainly work like a suppressor and QD based on that. surefire and griffin in particular latch onto the same parts that compatible suppressors would latch onto. since no one has salient's in hand (it was actually announced last year) there isn't any use cases to speak of yet.

the point is to have one device when you want it and the covered device when you need less concussion/noise (ie indoors, a shoot house, or other enclosed space). muzzle brakes/compensators tend to get loud.
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>>28697899
>over gassed
Innovative Arms W.A.R. upper solves this
>over heat
yeah
>shift center of gravity
legit complaint
>over hyped
NO! cans are fucking awesome and should be removed from the nfa but they are still well worth every penny.
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>>28697042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjQk244oW9c
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>>28698634
Salient is honestly better as a design place than as an actual manufacturer. what they should have done is get someone else who is actually established to do their machine manufacturing and assemble things in house. actually, that might be what they have going but didn't have enough money to work with an OEM to bring things out timely. from experience OEMs will bump you if a bigger fish comes along with bigger pockets.

if they are indeed bringing things together to be in-house manufacturing then that means they would cut out the middleman and not have to pay someone else to do work but also means that the burden of work is on them

as far as working on other people's glocks and stuff goes, that's a whole different ballgame and they should not be as slow as they are unless they took so many orders for the money that they can't keep up.

not having a decent website is unacceptable for someone of their notoriety though.
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>>28697544

Hey man, that's not nice, I love SolidWorks...
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>>28697706
>That Hi Point
I'm ok with this
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>>28697042
What kind of makeshift range is that? Looks like an unused hallway of their building.
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>>28698708
>lightening the slide is an "actionable upgrade"
>on a firearm which a heavy as fuck slide is necessary for functioning correctly
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>>28698850
Fuck their designs, the abortion of a rail being discussed here is the first product that is actually their own. The previous Salient rifles just used rebranded War Sport LVOA rails.
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>>28698929
That's the joke. Though I'd imagine the worst that could happen is the gun beats itself to death.

Looks so fucking smooth though seeing it fire.
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I didn't realize you could make a block uglier. Then they do it again and spell the name in niggerese.
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>>28697042
Not going to lie, the rifle looks sexy as fuck... I'll give them that, but I'm not a fan of the fireball in my hands when shooting.

For the Money I think I would rather get an LWRC M6 IC, or that new cobalt kinetics mag shitting AR instead
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>>28698595
Travis Haley isn't Larry vickers
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>>28699122
???
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>>28699150
>Twisted barrel
Nope. Fuck with everything for aesthetics but don't nigger up the barrel.
Dropped.
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>>28699233
>not fluting your barrel for maximum pimping
you some kind of fag?
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>>28699183
wrong webm, sorry
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>>28699081
fucking dumb mall ninja shit
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>>28697886
you need to see it with sound

it is savage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN1IwlbussE
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>>28699233
Hey Larry, I saw a thread on page 2 about Ruger, go and bash on it ====>
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>>28698929
The huge-ass optic on the slide adds in a lot of weight too, remember.
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>>28698708
>"sub-MOA accuracy"
>can clearly see the gas from the gun firing just inches away from the target
t-this is satire, right?
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>>28699506
Did you miss the Dynamic Pie Concepts logo? Or them calling it called "Assailant Arms?"
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>>28699536
honestly i just jumped to the middle of the video and saw that scene
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>>28699351
holy shit, hes crazy yo
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>>28699604
>his wife just standing there, sick of his shit
The sex must be fucking amazing
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>>28699340
There's an AR that does the same thing now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsqVCJOy1zQ
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>>28697265
MAC is a paid shilling channel. Of course they had nothing but good things to say about their products. About their space marine model pistol He is ditching his glock 19 and 'thinking about making it his primary carry'. Cause an experimental glock knockoff with larger trigger guard and 'tactical' barrel slide profile is totally worth twice the price.
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>>28699506
>>28698929
>>28699427
You... guys realize that this is satire and not real right?

They are making fun of salient arms and charging what they do for the guns they do it to

>thinking how many /k/ommandos are actually googling this up to buy one
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>>28697889

Indoor range is chill
>line is always hot
>electric zip line to wiz targets out and back
>bathroom 20ft away if needed
>no wind ever but always ventilated
>climate controlled

The only downside vs a regular outdoor range is that they are not long range and doubling up on ear pro is pretty much mandatory unless you want hearing damage.
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>>28699046
Maybe it's due to the 1mm trigger pull
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>>28697178
>>28697132
I bought a Recoil magazine one time and it had a thing about what guns certain Firearm Instructors preferred.

Chris Costa like the Salient Tier One Executive Glock, it was his favorite. Looks like S&W forgot to sign their checks.
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>>28699351
That was wonderful
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>>28697042
>Not your average 1911
>Is uttly garbage
>Not your average (enter gun here)
>Has a lot of customizations that totally do some thing
>these guns are the best of the best!
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Can TIM shill any harder? Let's find out...
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>>28698570
Who the fuck is Travis Haley? Is he special forces like Vickers?
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>>28700976
Whelp, continue to take Vickers advice over Haley. He's obviously a nobody since even you don't know who he is.
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>>28699340

what the fuck
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>>28697068
The part when he is shooting shitty QC ammo.
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>>28697952
how do you adjust your gas on an AK?
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>>28701007
>>28700976
>muh Marines
lol he's just a fucking Marine, there's fucking plenty of them here in San Diego. He's no special forces.
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>>28698634
yep, that new Glock frame they claim to make looks like a lone wolf Timberwolf frame they cut up and stippled
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>>28701072
Force Recon Marines >>> Navy Shits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrFUjbB6FPg
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>>28697042
>Rifle that shoots flame out the handguard
>Pistol with a wide as fuck trigger that has knife blade sharp sides

So you just gotta wear gloves if you own SA guns?

I was excited at first for the strike pistol, then
>SA will handle manufacturing
Nope!
>That dogshit trigger
>Those 'snag on everything within a foot' suppressor height sights

God fucking dammit
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>>28701072
MARSOC though
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>>28697474
It's not gold. It TiN
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>>28699081
That is the ugliest fucking thing I've seen in awhile. You should feel bad about who you are as a person.
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>>28701197
>Put TiN in random fucking places all over the gun.
>Needlessly increase the cost.
>End product is an overpriced, shiny, poorly conceived disaster with a shittier reputation than Taurus.
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>>28700965
>>28700990
>>28701072
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>>28699179
He is a metrosexual who came out with his own tactical skin care line (seriously)
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>>28702228
You're right. Living in the desert for months on end and using moisturizer is for fags. It erases the long list of people that are no longer breathing because of him.
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>>28698565
They were attacked by a dog. They were giving an interview to the news and mid interview he loses his shit out of nowhere.
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>>28702279
His wife who is a dermatologist designed the shit, he is just shilling it for shekels. Its just over priced lotion and shampoo shilled to his fanbois
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>>28697309
I bet you buy Apple products.
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>>28702343
>I wish i could afford their superior products
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>>28702351
>spent all his money on an Apple computer
>can't afford a 4chan pass
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>>28702365
>>spent all his money on an Apple computer
The laptop was cheap, pic related is what prevented me from getting a 4chan gold account
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>>28702351
See?

kek
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>>28702373
>UNIRONICLY bought a xeon
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>>28697899

You forgot to mention how they make cleaning a bitch.
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>>28697221
>>28697309
I own a SCAR 16s.
I'm not poor, I just don't buy shit.

And I'd rather be poor and not retarded than rich and spend my money poorly.
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>>28702373
>160 GB RAM
for what purpose?
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>>28702384
>>UNIRONICLY bought a xeon
>a
There are two, and thats only in that box

>>28702391
Playing with ESXi/vSphere inside of Workstation
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>>28698032
All slav military grade ammo is under pressured.
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>>28702404
Makes more sense
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>>28697042
Salient is total trash but they get away with robbing so many people. A fool and his money, easily parted.
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>>28702336
FUCK YOU TRAVIS HALEY IS GOD
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>>28702410
All these custom glock companies are the same way.

You look at the guns are they look cool, but you're like wait what does it do better than my factory g19 I got for $400. The answer is nothing

They sell guns off aesthetics
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>>28699340
That's retarded.
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>>28702441
I had a Glock and hated it but they are fine how they are. Glocks look like total shit anyway, no amount of money makes them pretty. If you're going to spend more than the gun is worth you might as well have bought a gun that worked for you from the beginning instead of butchering one, not that I care what people do with their shit but the logic really confuses me.
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>>28698985
I thought they were the same company?

Also that brings me to the topic that is danced around in this thread.
Snowflake gun companies toss out an AR/1911 or AK with a weird rail, brake or paint job and to show that its somehow better they charge an extra $3000 for it. Fucking noobs think "hurrr it costs more so it must be bestest" and a flame war ensues.
Want a quality 1911/AR/AK? Buy a decent one from a reputable brand and start working on it yourself.
>Be me
>buy "meh quality" SA 1911
>Add WC parts
>Add SL parts
>remove burrs
>Polish parts
>practice practice practoce
>Meh 1911 now out shoots much more expensive guns at 1/3 the price
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>>28698708
Funny thing is the hi point actually functions with all that crap
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>>28702507
its because its a blowback action and they just lightened the slide (and probably the spring) enough to offset the weight they put on
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>>28699351
Thanks.
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>>28699351
Australians are fucking cowards.
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>>28699350
It's a competition rifle, friend-o...
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>>28702577
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>>28697042
>Shillient
why am i not surprised

just buy your self some ported glock slide and spray paint the barrel yourself with gold krylon
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>>28697544
>not using torrented sketchup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F0Xx-oQKsU
goy, pls
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>>28697644
>ricer
ooh yeah! ricer is for car crowd and squid is for motorcycle crowd, but for guns salient will do for now
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>>28703291
>Sketchup

>>28703306
>Salient now synonymous for Ricer/Tactigucci.
Very good.
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>>28697683

Yeah fluid dynamics.
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>>28697042
>filming when he parks his car
>filming when he walks in the building
Why do Murrikans do this?
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>>28705951
Because they needed to take up time in the video and SA doesn't have anything else to record. The place is literally an empty office with nothing finished, MAC flat out said they are MONTHS from having production close to ready.

Did you not see the plywood wall to cover up the rest of the empty wall less office?
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>>28702343
>>28702351
>>28702377
B T F O
T
F
O
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>>28702584
that has to be all fucking dumbass mall ninja?
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>>28697681
I really wanted one of these, but now seeing what the "Improved" A and B versions will look like, I don't even want it.
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>>28698850
>I lol'd at that, as I know exactly what machines their stuff has been running on since the beginning, and they are definitely not located at salient
Were you an employee or affiliate of theirs in the past? Just curious because I was considering "treating myself" to a Salient Glock, but if you have a scoop on what happens behind the scenes, I might just forgo that purchase.
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>>28703291
Sketchup isn't even worth torrenting
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>>28698700
>should be removed from the nfa
The nfa should be removed.
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>>28702389
If your rich then I doubt what you care what you're spending your money on. You know, because you're rich.
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