So my girlfriend wants to get into hunting with me, and wants a rifle, due to law it cant be semi auto, however it should be an intermediate caliber
Heres the kicker, shes a weak shit (lol dump her she cant oper8 at peak performance) so does anyone know if there is a bolt action on the market with an extremely light to cock bolt? I like 99% of us dont have the issue so i never considered it on my rifles
However whenever she shoots a bolt gun i usually end up loading it for her and i really dont like that
Was thinking a 527c in x39 originally until i thought about this issue
What about a pump-action or lever-action rifle?
If she's recoil shy they're available in .223, .357 (which does decently from a rifle barrel), and I'm sure a number of other medium sized chamberings.
If that's what he leans to, I can't recommend the BLR in .223 enough. Top notch gun, all around.
The bolt on my .338 sure is easy to rack.
I wouldn't recommend trying to carry it any sort of distances, though. :)
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How weak is weak? Weak as in, she can't hold it, or it will knock her off her feet when fired? I'm a woman and I fire a Tikka T3 in 308 without much issue, especially when using the bipod. The bolt it comes with is an extremely light touch, like it's lubricated in angel tears. You can get one from BassPro for $700
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Get a Swiss K-31, Mosin Crate sells them from time to time around $400 to $500. Yes ammo is expensive but if you reload it's cheap or you could get a new barrel installed and have it shoot .308. Nothing is smoother or lighter than a straight pull bolt
How 'bout a .243 pump action?
Also, I can't recommend strongly enough checking her length of pull. My wife is only 1" shorter than me, but her length of pull (distance from trigger to end of stock) is 2" shorter. Mossberg's Bantam and Super Bantam series are usually great fits, but the fit and finish is rough. Nicer guns need to be cut down, however, it makes all the difference in the world when it comes to how she can hold the gun. A gun that's too long is impossible to hold properly, and generates excessive felt recoil, making even a 9mm carbine unpleasant.
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Lever-action 357 Magnum would be my recommendation. Its performance is closer to a 30-30 while keeping things nice and light. Recoil isn't bad and you get a lot of velocity from an 18" barrel. Working the lever is also physically less straining than a pump-action and a more natural action than cycling a bolt-action. Note that most bolt-actions will be cocked when the handle is lifted. Some are cocked further back in the cycle or when locking the bolt. Those will be easier for her to cycle. You might also consider a straight-pull, which only need front/back motions and can easily be worked with whichever hand is stronger.
In terms of calibers, something similar to x39 is decent. That'll give you something similar to 30-30 ballistics. A .357 Magnum out of an 18"+ barrel gives you about 90% of a 30-30's performance with ammunition that's much shorter and a far larger magazine capacity. If nothing else, the magazine can be downloaded and keep that weight closer to the shooter (making the gun feel lighter).
Browning do make phenomenal leverguns.
>recommend a relatively crude poorfag gun in a full sized caliber for a small girl that has issue opening bolt guns
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I hear Tikka's are nice.
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I want to suggest a Savage 99, but I can't recall if it was ever made in any medium sized cartridge.
This, anon's gender is absolutely relevant to OP's question.
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K-31 has a very smooth action but it's s full powered gun.
Deer are really not that cute, they may not be as bad for the environment as hogs, but they do their damage if nobody keeps their population in check.
Glad to hear you're doing your part to combat the hog menace though, fuck those fuckers, each and every one of them is like a solid mass of locusts.
Oh yeah, length of pull is important, the stock could just be too long for her, look into that, OP.
This, get some Leverevolution loads to max your performance.
Also, if you ever get a silencer, .38 Special is subsonic (and very light recoiling in a rifle, which should encourage her to plink on her own volition).
Tikka T3 in whatever caliber. I believe they make them in .223. Mine is a T3 Lite Stainless in .308, and I love it, although it has a considerable amount of recoil considering how light it is.
my ruger m77 in .243 has a very smooth action and I think would work. They make them in .223 too, but I think for deer .243 is just right. This was the deer gun I got when I was 11, so if I can handle it at 11 I think your GF can deal with it
Any rifle in 6.5x55. Softest shooting cartridge I know and it's known to take down elk and moose.
Pic related, my Swede M96B
Any youth model of Ruger, Savage, or Tikka should have a shorter, slightly adjustable length of pull.
The .243 or 7mm-08 are both lighter recoiling than a .308 but should be fine for any cxp-2 game. Elk might be pushing it for .243 unless you're a good shot.
All the recommendations above are good too. I will +1 any Tikka or Sako if you've got the dosh for it, though. Can't go wrong with a CZ, either.
I suppose taking her shopping to find the perfect fit would be the best choice, though.
If you pick up a K31 for her, I know Grafs had a K31 clamp-on muzzle brake you can get. I'm tempted to pick it up and try it out.
6.5mm Swede is gr8 m8, though .270 can do what it can do with more common ammo.
Question is if OP's gal can work that bolt. The Swede Mauser is cock on closing so maybe it is easier for her.
He might mean for hunting, some places have special rules for that, some places only allow shotguns.
In the states? Because up here in Canuckistan, most places will encourage rifle hunting. Semiauto or bolt doesn't matter. Even with shotguns they say to use slugs for anything but turkey.
Is this like, "around urban areas" kind of rules or something?
Australia.... Just didnt want to sink the thread by mentioning that in the OP
Tikka and the cz seem like the best bets so far