Would you an integrally suppressed handgun?

Not unless NFA gets repealed. Fuck paying a suppressor stamp that can't be used on any other firearm.

>>28660840
Can you english?

>>28660840
i want a VSS a lot more

Yes, I could even go as far as the can go do look more like.

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>>28661073
>2016
>not speaking Meme

>>28661104
>>28661073
How long have you niggas been here.

>>28661083
You and everyone else

>>28660867
This. Not worth it.

Also not going to wait 8 months to get the stupid thing.

I need a rail yo for that sick laser/light/vfg action. Nightsights, is it accurate, reliable, comfortable? Does it weigh 40 fucktons, is it delicate? Can I buy the pistol sans suppressor, in case my frame/whatever breaks?

>>28661149
>not getting
>>28661104
It's hilarious that you are trying to act like he's the new one.

>>28660840
I would accidentally dindus with an integrally handgun.

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Have they even dropped a price yet? I mean if this is a 4k special snowflake, yeah naw.

I think they'd have done themselves a service building something more Steyr TMP sized with a fixed rail ontop and below. This is already a special use gun.

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reminds me of a certain anime gun, psycho pass anyone?

>>28660840
Rather have a B&T VP9

Let me give you guys some info OP left out.
>Can have Glock Night Sights
>Will fit Glock Slides
>Made up from aftermarket parts
>Manufactured by SilencerCo
>Takes Glock Magazines

>>28660840
all night long

>>28661073
kys desu senpai

>>28663936
dominatah!

>>28660867
>>28661385
The fuck are you retards on about?

A stamp is like 300 bucks who gives a shit?

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>>28660840
only if it was russian, and a rifle.

>>28664331
>A stamp is like 300 bucks
When did they raise the price?

>>28664331
>$300

>>28660867
That firearm does not require a stamp since it does not have any device attached to it that reduces, muffles, or deminishes its report.

>>28663936
its similar to tons of fictional guns

>>28664375
I'd like to see if they get away with that

>>28664428
I dont see how they would not. Anyone can read the law and see that there is no silencer anywhere in OPs photo

But can it enter Lethal Eliminator mode?

>>28664371
>>28664372
regardless the point of the post is still valid, who gives a shit about a couple hundred bucks.


I mean if thats too expensive for you its not like youre going to be able to afford an integrally suppressed weapon anyways.

>>28660840

I would oper8 innabox, I would oper8 withafox, I would oper8 anywhere, I would oper8 with that gun there!

>>28664375
Are you retarded? Of course it's NFA, by that logic integrally suppressed rifles aren't and they obviously fucking are.

>>28664375
the firearm is the frame. if the barrel is removable in any way, as most are, especially in autos, i'm sure it will still count as an "attached device" or whatever language they want to apply to it

>>28660840
...I would.

>>28664745
which can be contested in court, but no one has

>>28664760
wrong.
In that factory configuration, that firearm has nothing attached to it that makes it quieter than it once was. It has allways produced Xdecibles of noise, and that has not been reduced, muffled, or deminished in any way since its manufacture.

>>28660840
Sure, if it was a Walther PPQ.
Then I could remove refugee silently.

>>28660840
if suppressors were not strictly regulated then i believe every handgun would most likely be integrally suppressed.

in other words what im saying is yes, i would an integrally suppressed pistol as there is no real reason not to.

>>28666286

I like the way you think, but good luck when the ATF calvinballs the regulation, rewrites the definition of "attached," and shoots your dog.

>>28666350
If they want to rewrite the definition fine, but as it stands, it is not an NFA item

>>28660840
its that a hipoint

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>>28661073
hi newfriend

>>28660840
Repeal the NFA first. Unconstitutional.

Yea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX0wl9L17s8

>>28660840
Throw a RMR and light on that and you got the ultimate low light CQB pistol

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>>28663936

>>28667571
>>>/b/

>>28660840
Needs to be 10mm
We Deus ex now.

>>28660840
As long as i can have a threaded barrel so i can attach a second suppressor/dildus

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>>28660840
what does this do that a regular suppressor wont, besides add a fuck ton of weight to the front of a pistol

>>28672723
It's not a NFA item?

>>28672723
add a fuckton of length

>>28672805
it is though?

>>28672828
it looks cooler, don't be old fashioned

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>>28660840
I love the aesthetic of that silencer, reminds me of what I thought forerunner weapon design was like before Halo 4. Eh, they didn't do a bad job though.

>>28674391
The Battle Skins they wore were pretty cool, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cIFNDy2zDM

>>28660840
Fuck yeah I would. The Maxim is dope as fuck.

>>28661395
Uses standard glock sights, it is extremely lightweight.

>>28664375
There are two serial numbers on the gun. One right under the trigger guard and the other on the bottom of the can, the can requiring a tax stamp.

>>28672723
It's extremely quiet, does not add a lot of overall length, is holsterable, and is cool as shit.

>>28663936
We MWPSB now.

>>28663936
>>28670649
>watching meem cartoons
fucking weebs when will they learn

>>28660840
If I was Sam Fisher, yes.

>>28660840
Yeah, sure, I've been meaning to add a 9mm to my collection of novelty space guns.

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>>28666376

>>28678808
Not a suppressor until you fit the cover is the marketing angle, I'm guessing?

>>28674916
so it does nothing a regular suppresser doesn't already

>>28680604
>explain why it's different
>so it isn't different?
Kill yourself

>>28661104
Yeah but has anyone really been far even as decided to use?

>>28681708
it offers nothing that a regular suppressor doesn't and its a lot bulkier
but you'll buy them up anyway like the mall ninja you are

>>28679246
No, the ATF declared it a "suppressor part," thus falling under the NFA. Nice to see Sig trying all of this cheeky shit though, its really showing how arbitrary the NFA is.

>>28680604
Its easier to holster. I can see myself carrying the Maxim.

>>28682019
its also a giant block on the end of your gun, adding a few inches to it. Its a fucking stupid useless gimmick that youre going to buy because youre a dumbass

>>28682019
This. Depending how how well it shoots, I could definitely see a Maxim as part of my EDC. Probably have to ride a shoulder rig, though, it's not going inside the waistband.

>>28680604
It's actually much quieter In a much more compact package.

I know you have gotten to play with the gun, and are simply going off what you've seen online, but some of us have.

>>28682194
A RUCKING STEWLESS, GIMP MICK? WELL MAKE HIM WORK LIKE IF HE WANTS FOOD. IF HE CAN RUCK HE CAN DO WORK.

>>28683275
Would you care to elaborate? I'm sincerely interested in getting one, once they're finally commercially available, and I'm curious to hear how it handles.

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No one's posted this yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX0wl9L17s8

You're welcome

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>>28660840
Looks like the Robocop remake's shitty pistol

>>28684465
I didn't get to shoot it, but after handling one I was impressed with how lightweight it is. With the different baffle design they have, one thought is to allow you to customize the length depending on what kind of ammo you'd like to run, or how quiet you want it.

Extremely nice setup, and I'm definitely interested to see where the design goes before production.

>>28685115
Interdasting

>>28672723
Be holsterable quite easily. I want to run IDPA with this pistol.

>>28660840
Looks sick

>>28684507
Because its not integrally supressed?

>>28666401
No, it's a FAMAS. Get gud, newfag.

>>28679246
So, you literally don't pay attention to firearm news at all, do you?

That pic related is a classic example of the ATF pulling a calvinball and threatening to shoot m and best friend. SIG made a muzzlebrake which actually INCREASED the db level of the gun's report, and the ATF decided that it was in fact a suppressor.

Yes, SIG was trolling on the ATF. Yes, if you threaded a piece of pipe on the gun, you would have a suppressor. But if the rule of law was still a thing in the U.S, that muzzlebrake would've never been a regulated item because it, by itself, objectively failed the test of what is a suppressor.

>>28666350
>calvinballs
I haven't seen this used as a verb before, but it's perfect.

>>28687932
Seen it a few times recently, i can't help but smile when i do.

>>28687947
Added bonus, it really is the perfect verb to describe what ATF is doing. The regulatory state in this country is really out of control.

>>28688066
To be completely fair, this is par for the course by now when it comes to the ATF, they've been pulling this shit for a long time now. Thankfully, it seems like there are quite a few lawyers starting to throw their bullshit at the courts.

>>28664760
>>28666286
>>28666286
Permanently affixing a De Lisle's suppressed barrel to the receiver won't make it any less a "silencer" according to the law, even if it left the factory that way. Otherwise any .22lr pistol manufacturer with a suitable design (fixed barrel handguns like the Mosquito come to mind as being suitable with little redesign) would have been shipping integrally suppressed non-silenced pistols stamp free for the past 80 years.
Don't be silly.

>>28666331
Supressors aren't restricted for militaries or in many countries outside of the U.S., yet they are not used except for when they are needed.

Surpressors, even when integrated, add weight, bulk, and unwieldiness to a weapon with the primary purpose of being light, small, and handy with very little benefit for the majority of scenarios they are employed in.

>>28688217
Meant to say this post was specifically referring to handguns, in case it wasn't obvious.

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>>28660840
Yes; it comes out Q4 this year, right?
>>28663963
You can see this version fire here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOjXXQDZjV0
>>28672723
What everyone else said; it's holsterable af. All the reports I've seen of it say that it's surprisingly balanced. Silencerco is also thinking about making it modular like their more popular suppressors so you can change the length and weight of gun to suit your needs vs attaching one of those "all purpose" cans you see people getting.

>>28664331
*$200
Also the cheapest suppressors you'll find are still like $600 or whatever. Imagine buying an optic that you can only use on one rifle.

>>28664760
Pretty sure removing the barrel doesn't make the gun louder.

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>>28664695
Maybe there are some of us who aren't too keen on shoveling any more money towards the gubmint than we have to.

>>28660840
it's big and ugly and a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

future forgotten weapons material right there.

>>28689595
>can only afford one optic
Poorfag get out

>>28679246
Exactly. It's proof that NFA isn't what the laws say, it's what the ATF says.

>>28691411
Welcome to Earth.