Thoughts on face shields integrated into helmets? While yes goggles do the same thing, perhaps a faceplate with a low ballistic rating and simple dust filters that seal around your face could be useful inna desert/breaching/etc. post examples real or imagined
>Having worked manual labor and use angle grinders, I can say a face shield definitely is an improvement over just safety glasses but that's just my opinion
Anyway, this is all I have that's applicable.
Complete and utter lack of ability to get onto your weapon sights.
I could do with shitty/no cheek weld in specific situations, but the complete inability to even get close to lining up sights on a rifle is a total deal breaker.
They stop bullets from hitting you in the face in CQB situations.
Getting hit in the face with a bullet sucks.
Also, with automatic weapons going off in confined spaces stuff like plaster, concrete ect. starts to get pretty ballistic.
The ballistic glass ones that mount to a helmet are the best, but looking through 3/4" of glass tends to distort your vision quite a bit. The metal Russian ones are heavy as fuck and super hot and have awful tunnel vision, but provide the best protection. The kevlar hockey masks are the lightest and most comfortable but have no eye protection.
>Complete and utter lack of ability to get onto your weapon sights.
Congratulations, even the people who think up the guns for Call of Duty can solve problems related to making guns work with new equipment better than you can. You simply lower the cheekrest of the stock accordingly while keeping the back of the stock the same so the recoil is still directed straight back. Also, companies already make mandible guards with optional pads made of gripy material so one could get a decent cheekweld on a stock without it sliding around every time the gun recoils.
You gotta mail in for it, but it's also made out of kevlar so there's that.
> 3am and you hear glass breaking
> grab your trusty 45 and tactical roll out of bed
> tactically dodge piss bottles
> go down stairs and search, see nothing
> no broken windows or any shit
> hear bump
> suddenly a wild moon cricket appears
> unload towards JaMarcus
> by the gods, this nig has my sexy time face armor
> you bass tard
> go for Mozambique
> no spare mag, no backup
> bend at the knees and put on your most intimidating battle face
> thrust cheddar claw deep into fudge pocket
> they called me crazy for sleeping with my Stegamatic 8000 inside my prison purse
> see dindu's eyes go wide with terror as you produce 25" of prehistoric justice
> swing it by the realistic balls, complete with scales
> Kevlar is no match for my little friend
> watch in erotic agony as basketball american looses his jaw to the shear violence I just demonstrated on him
> call police
> claim self defense
> police let me keep my Stegadong since no one is willing to touch it
>everything went better than expected
>You've clearly never had a spark bounce under your safety glasses into your eye while angle grinding bolt heads
There's a reason face shields are seen raised up I'm almost all photos you see. Impeding your vision, communication and ability to accurately engage your weapon is not conducive to surviving and thriving during a gunfight. Next question.
Always makes me kek when I see police wearing 300€ brand pants or suits. Because some 50€ pants are not oper8tor enough. And then we see cuts everywhere in other areas of police forces.
Yeah, up until they actually make contact then those fuckers go down because nobody wants to catch a 9mm to the face. Also
>what is wireless communications with your team
>adjusting your cheek guard
>why even do that when cameras on the gun are becoming a thing
>more armor certainly helps "surviving and thriving during a firefight"
>implying vision is going to matter when small displays and camera arrays become commonplace
Technology is changing, fully armored helmets are becoming a thing and armor's just getting thinner and thinner these days. Saying "NAH NOPE" to this doesn't help anything, what you should be saying is "yeah but that's clunky bullshit, you need to make it better." This is the way individual protection is going to go, it's happened through every other iteration of body armor throughout history and it'll happen again.
>face shields integrated into helmets
On most job sites in Canada you have to wear a combination welding helmet/hard hat. It's fucking lame. I feel really bad for these Russian dudes wearing the same thing made out of ballistic metal. After 12 hours of flipping a light fiberglass welding mask attached to a fiberglass helmet, Robax is my new best buddy.
>Thoughts on face shields integrated into helmets?
Do we really need to give infantry even more weight on their kit? Your average grunt is already lugging around almost 100 lbs of equipment these days, and even a faceguard that would somehow be able to stop both intermediate rifle rounds and fragments (are there any that can even do this?) still would not protect you from the actual concussive force of an explosion if you were too close.
Will it stop most pistol and intermediate rifle calibers?
Will it stop you from getting knocked out by the kinetic force?
If the helmet's not fully secured even a mak round can knock it off your head and knock you on your ass if you didn't brace beforehand. Not to mention it's heavy, suffocating, humid and obscuring your peripheral vision. One good thing is that it'll save your eyes from getting fucked up from thick smoke or shrapnel during CQB
as long as your helmet is strapped you should be okay and the next guy will gat him while you regain your surroundings.
you can even get shot with a 308 and not get knocked back. itll suck ass but you wont get knocked out.