This will serve as an unboxing and table top review thread for the Girsan 1911 tactical. Model MC1911S.
I promised to review it when I put it on layaway in December so hopefully I can keep the thread alive long enough for people to find interest.
>M1911A1 copy made in Turkey by Girsan
>Chambered in .45acp with a 5" barrel
>Single action only (Duh) with an aluminum trigger that I measured at 5.5lbs
>Uses standard 1911 magazines, ships with a single 8 round magazine made by ACT-MAG in Italy
Dude... Were you just fucking waiting for me to post this thread?
Initial view of the case and contents.
Here's what you get.
>One 8 round magazine
>Set of (Rubber tipped, nice touch) cleaning brushes
>Patch rod (Plastic, flexible but not bad)
>Bottle of some shitty oil
>One fired cartridge
>Manual in turkshit and English
Oh, good timing
Contents out of the case. I really like the rubber tipped cleaning rods, nice touch. I'll never use them but it's a good starter kit for people that are buying their first pistol.
If you're going to spam my thread with quotes from the Major please use images.
Alright let's just get to it, disassembly.
>Full length guide rod
>Crazy reflective barrel
>Very nice Novak style sights, for the price I am blown away
A note from disassembly, the frame/slide fit is fucking ridiculous. Makes almost no noise when you shake it, no movement when you grip the slide and fame in opposite hands. Very tight, but the slide still slid off like silk.
hehe, storage wars.
I was only the last three.
We may never know. But I have a feeling the spirit of JMB would not allow it.
This one is actually moles ahead of the RIA pistols I have held and fired.
We're getting into the close up shots now, I'm happy with the finish on the gun, feels tough and looks good.
>Inside of slide
Note the lack of fucked up tool marks and general shit you expect from a budget 1911
>That's a shiny spot from oil, not chipped finish
Solid is a good word for this gun, feels like one block of steel in the hand.
>I think I could pistol whip a horse to death with this thing.
Continuing the tour.
>Back of grip
At this point you should have noticed something is off about the dimensions. I'll address it in the next post.
They are fucking HUGE, it's my only complaint about these pistols, the grips that ship with them are fat as an 11b's wife.
We will talk about the grips later, there is another problem with them because fucking Turkshits
>Bore from clamber end
Sorry for the potato picture, but this is the barrel.
Anybody ITT or am I talking to myself?
The sights are flat black Novak style and sit nice and high on the gun. I have no trouble picking them up in good lighting conditions and while I'd put a fiber optic or Tritium front sight on for CC these will do excellent for the range.
>Note: The front sight appears thicker than this when held at arms length.
Guess it's just me and other Barry.
>Sights on something other than a flat surface
For the rice I paid this is really great, fuck RIA in the as this should be THE go-to poorfag 1911
Should have started off with how much I paid. Saving it for the last post.
seems like a good mag, no issues locking open when screwing around dry fire. Drop free and shoots up about an inch from the mag well when you hold the gun upside down and depress the mag release (Both locked open and slide forward)
Now, about those grips. Fuck those grips.
But, there is a problem. The fucking Girsan 1911 line does not use standard 1911 grip screws.
There are four possible solutions to this problem so you can use after market grips
>Have a gunsmith remove the stock bushings and tap the frame for GI bushings
>Buy a matching set of four metric hex head screws that fit the stock bushings, you can do it but you won't have the GI look. It's pure aesthetics.
>Reduce the head size of the stock screws so they fit aftermarket grips (Cheapest option if you want wood grips) they are the right height just too wide for GI grips
>The fourth option is what I went with, just get a set of Houge rubber grips, the rubber allows the over sized screw heads to squeeze down and sit flush, they also hold the grips on tight as hell
Now, if you choose to make the grip screws narrow enough for standard grips the best way to do it us chuck them in a drill or dremel and use a file and sand paper to size them down evenly. Take a little at a time and check for fit often.
Good to know, thanks. Just wait until I tell you how much I paid.
>With the new grips
Just bought the cheapest grips I could at Cabelas, $10 Houge black rubber replacements.
The grip screws slipped right into place and are comfortable.
The thing I like most about the appearance over RIA 1911's is the lack of logos.
Whats up with this hole first time ive seen any 1911 with it
I really like the look now. I was just going for "Quick and cheap" but I'm warming up to it quite a bit. Maybe I'm just a pleb.
>but then I found out how big of cunts the Turks are and decided against it.
tell me who in this world aren't being cunts in one form or another. Hell, our government are cunts themselves.
Suck a dick it was cheap. I'd buy it again just to fund shooting down Russians.
Thanks for the heads up, we'll find out on the range (This will be a three part review)
Yeah I've seen those, huge improvement IMO
New grip dimensions.
Dude, don't fucking summon that shit into my thread.
Everything fits in the box nice and comfy.
Cool, here is the last bit of info, please ask any questions you have.
Surprise! I bought two.
This is going to be an experiment, I want to really work these guns out and let /k/ know how good/bad they are. They might be rock stars, they might be heaps of shit, I'm spending my money and taking the risk for you.
Here is how it will work.
>One pistol will remain stock for the course of testing
>One pistol will be given cost effective upgrades that are focused on improving reliability and shootability while keeping the over all price as low as possible.
The work to be done is as follows.
>Polish feed ramp barrel and frame with dremel polishing kit (Free, I own the tools already)
>Replace all springs in the gun with Wilson Combat springs, including an 18.5lb recoil spring ($15, I have them already)
>Polish the contact points on the trigger and other internal components for improved trigger pull and reduced chance of ice/frost having something to hang on to and choke the gun (I live in Alaska)
Total cost (As promised)
$25 for both guns
$765, or $382.50 each gun out the door.
>Wilson combat spring kit
>Grand total for black tactical beginners 1911 with reliability and action improvement and new grips
Sorry to burst the bubble, it was a Christmas sale, they're $400 now.
No problem, I can't wait to get them to the range and test the fuck out of them. I'll also be getting some WC mags to see if they run better with them.
So far I fucking love this thing.
Also, this is the spring kit I'm using. Have not installed the springs yet.
>Current trigger pull before polishing and new springs
Hoping to drop that by 1.5lbs with new springs and some elbow grease.
The best kind.
Go get one?
It would mostly be me tinkering with my 80% AR's/AK's and shooting pistols at 100+yds
I might set one up, if I do I'll make a thread on /k/ or it will be part of the third update to the Girsan saga and I'll just call it poorfag gunsmithing.
You'll be the Flandre of Alaska. Also, I'm hoping that this doesn't happen to your 1911.
Does anyone have any other questions or comments? Anything they want to know about the guns that I can put into my review or comment on right now since I have the guns in hand? Any pictures of parts you want? I'd ask now since I'm going to work soon.
>Flandre of Alaska
I'd have to shit out a Groza copy for that to be a valid assessment.
And what the fuck happened?
Can't beat $400 man. The place I linked has a layaway program. (Although I would wait for me to beat up on mine first so you know about any issues that crop up)
Pic related is my 80% build collection so far. The AK's are a little beat up because I was learning on them and trying new things and I abuse my guns a lot.
They do, in fact, make a GI model. Complete with shitty sights and all.
Never going to happen, I live in AK and the market is saturated.
That happened to my friends RIA 1911.
It's my non-work email, my professional email in my full name so it never sees the light of day around here.
Thanks, the 20" AR triggers the fuck out of MilsurpDude and I love it. Both the AR15's are built on raw 80% receivers using the EasyJig and finished with GunKote.
Built them from the ground up not with complete uppers (Not that it's hard)
>Complete with shitty sights and all.
Yeah, I know, but I wont be shooting anything at more than like 30 feet. I have other pistols for that.
I just really want a WWII/Korea/'Nam style 1911.
Not saying there's anything necessarily wrong with modified variants, I acknowledge they're more practical, but they just don't do it for me.
Totally understand, GI 1911's are sexy.
I love that gun, I was going to go in a CAR15 607A direction with it but I don't have access to the tools to build the stock correctly. So I put a flat top rail on it and a bungee sling.
This is my full collection minus the 1911's
I completely forgot you had your model 8.
Remington Model 8 chambered in .35 Remington.
>3rd year of production
>Joy to shoot
Pro tip, they are clip fed guns, and Springfield M1A 7.62x51 stripper clips fit the .35Rem model.
Different anon, have the same gun and a 336 chambered in 35 rem.
Ammo is not easy to find
It is easy to reload, very versatile.
It is a fun to shoot, chunky little cartridge designed to fell any game one might encounter in North America. At ranges less than 150yrds, it preforms very well.
God's very own deer round. When the Model 8 was first put on the market (110 years ago, mine is 107 years old) they were called the "One Ton Gun" because they had chamberings packing 2000ft/lbs of muzzle energy. They were primarily dangerous game pack rifles because you could dump 5 rounds of fuck you on a bear as fast as you could pull the trigger.
Modern .35 Rem is even more powerful.
I got mine for $400
Also, every single Model 8 and 81 ever made is a takedown rifle. Cool as hell.
Top ejecting glory. Helps me save brass
It really is a great round, shame it's so hard to find components.
Go look into them, coolest guns ever. Bonnie and Clyde got shredded by one with extendo mags.
I need to hunt down some Unique+.357 mag 158gr plinking recipes.
No problem, I love sharing that stuff. (Wow, my Girsan 1911 thread went another direction entirely)
I just made some plinkers today out of 160gr solid lead scroggins and 30grs of H4895.
And good luck trying to find Unique. I have not seen any for sometime in stores, which sucks, because I need it for 7.62 nagant loads.
Well, we're going to find out. I think after I tinker with these ones a bit they will blow any GI model RIA out of the water.
I took a couple other pictures since I had the guns out anyway.
>but it being in the case means nothing
But it means everything, without the case you can't have the bullet.
I think I figured out why the grips are so thick.
They used a very poor quality of wood with crumbly porous veins running through it. It's stabilized with about a gallon of lacquer each side, and between that and the sheer thickness they're not going to break, but making GI thickness grips from this stuff would cause cracking. The over sized grip screws is likely another way yo distribute force to avoid cracking.
Honestly, I get the wood grips on the GI model. But they should have shipped the tactical with synthetic grips over these.
>Not going to cry over a $350 1911 though.
Just finished polishing the fed ramp and internals. Dropped the trigger pull by 1/2 a pound and I can now chamber a spent casing with the slide release.
>MFW it chambered
Picture related, quick and low res picture of the polishing job. I dare a hollow point to FTF in this gun.
Good thing it's not an abomination.
Seriously though, I'm impressed. This is pretty cool. I have even been riding the slide forward with my hand and can't get it to FTF with an empty case.
Also, one of the cheeky fucks ITT bough the last Girsan from the website I linked.
No, and I don't give a shit on your idea taste.
>that middle pic
I didn't know they made 1911s in .38 Special....how bizarre.