>yfw

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>>28630545
>10mm

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>>28630545
>10mm Vector

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>>28630545
>Eric's face when

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>>28630552
Well I know what I am buying this year..

>>28630560
Is the wiggle actually anything to be concerned with? /k/ seems to throw a fit over it. Just looks like loose tolerances.

The only reason I'd get a Vector is if somebody made a pull/release trigger like the BFS for it.

Or if I wanted a .45 ACP carbine, which I don't. Or a 10mm carbine. Or a .40S&W carbine. Or a .357 SIG carbine.

>>28630576
Apparently the gun is extremely difficult to control in full auto and tends to cause even experienced shooters to be very inaccurate while using it. The wiggle you're seeing is likely a manifestation of that difficulty to control.

In semi-auto, I've heard it's not as noticeable.

>>28630576
nah man cheeks usually do that

>>28630576
well it can't be a good thing.

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>>28630545
>10mm
Oh shit, I might need one. Is it buffalo bore rated?

Have you ever seen any other gun in high speed? All of them wiggle like that.
https://youtu.be/CClX6g6BCA8?t=6m22s

>>28630630
Actually it can be, not saying it is, but it can be

>>28630545
I was looking into 10mm carbines. Are there any others on the market?

>>28630545
I do not see the appeal. The Vector's whole thing is the recoil dampening system, which it doesn't seem like you're taking advantage of when the gun is semi-auto. It also seems like you'd also have to spend the time and money to SBR it to make it worthwhile. If I were to do all that I'd rather just go with a PS90 or SBR an AR.

>>28630671
Local pawn shop used to have a couple ARs in 10mm. Part of me wanted one.

>>28630671
olympic arms

>>28630694
>10mm
>16 inch
>Carbine
>That you can magdump in a controlled fashion
Dude, this is the Alaskan camp carbine, fuck a grizzly

>>28630694
>SBRing anything when you can just slap on an arm brace

kek

>>28630694
My buddy's dad bought one when they were poppin hot. I would say it was actually a lot of fun, it was a soft shooter and generally felt like a .22. It was very easy to run it fairly hard, it swings and points very well.

>>28630545
>dat TD

>>28630710
You can do the same thing with a short AR.

>>28630545
WHERE MY RIFLE ROUND

>>28630855
>5.56
>stopping a grizz

HUEUHEHUEHUEHUHEHUEHUEHUEHUE

>>28631037
They don't call that bullet Trophy Bonded Bear Claw for no reason :^)

>>28630545
What's the point of these guns?

>>28631037
>10mm auto, 1,049 Joules
>.223, 1,807 Joules

>>28631037
10mm AR Uppers are a thing.

Also, do you really think that 30 rounds of 65 grain 5.56 JST would not stop a bear? Bears are tough beans and all, but that is a lot of lead with a lot of bear to expand/tumble (if using M855) around in.

>>28631130
I've never gone after grizzlebees, but I'd assume any shot in quantities of thirty would probably disuade a bear.

>>28631063
shooting bullets.

>>28631166
Pretty sure a 9mm to the chest would at least scare one off.
If not the pain then the loud noise for sure.

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>>28630545
>10mm vector

>>28630965
>this
Where's my counter-recoil-momentum long range precision rifle systems at?
I wanna see what kind of speed improvement comes with it

>>28631125
>>28631130
>>28631166
>>28631219
>Non woodsman
Ugh.

Okay, from the top
>10mm flat point penatration is superior due to wide face and weight
>A 10mm AR will recoil more than a kriss vector
>Fuck you it's my money

>>28631295
>Superior Penetration
>Wide Face

Bruh, you have no idea how penetration works. If having a wider surface area was important for penetration, then why do tanks shoot slim little rods of DU at ridiculous speeds to penetrate things?

>>28631330
>Non woodsman
Fucking city folk

Hard cast lead with a wide meplat goes deeper in bear.

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>>28631346
>Hard cast lead with a wide meplat goes deeper in bear.
Are you for real?

>>28631504
Please stop trolling for once, could you? What's the fun in it if it's so easy to do on /k/?

>americucks

>>28630671
There's a couple of places that do 10mm carbine conversions from glock 20s

>>28631504
It seems like this guy is for real. Someone does not understand how penetration works.

>10mm
It's gonna wobble apart just from chambering a round.

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>>28631504
he's right though, because the sharp shoulder of a wide meplat projectile results in uniform supercavitation and thus prevents tumbling, which in turn would greatly reduce penetration.

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>>28630694
>sbr'ing
Fuck the ATF

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>>28630552
>>28630559
>>28630640
OMG D00D 10MM SO FUCKIN BADASS XDDD

YEAAAAH 10MM NOW THERE'S MORE WEAR ON THE GUN THAT IS ALREADY SHITTY AS IT IS

You fags fall for the worst gimmicks.
>literally what is an intermediate rifle caliber

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Buy it in any of the above calibers, then down the road all you have to do is swap out 3 pins and the lower to make it another caliber. It's a fun little gun to shoot.

>>28631842
>changing the stock to the most boring stock in the world
Why bother even getting one then? It's part of the iconic look.
I bet you'd put a buffer stock on a SPAS too.

>>28630591
I thought the whole gimmick with this fucking thing was that it was supposed to be extremely easy to control. Was that just not true?

>>28630545
Part of me wants to buy a 10mm version for a Deer gun.

Ohio has some stupid laws but it's also an excuse to buy new toys

>>28632066
Build a .50beo AR pistol.

>>28631951
>caring what other people do to their guns
Fuck off

>>28632093
Yeah, but then you lose all the special snowflake cool factor

>>28630545
Fuck me, I finally sold my 10mm pistol and now I'm going to want another one.

>>28632256
>being a plebeian retard
Fuck off.

>>28632284
True enough.

>>28630545
Ugh I didn't even know I wanted a kriss until 3 days ago.

I also want it in 5.56, just like the sub 2k. Imagine the power.

>>28632357
>Imagine the power.
Identical to a basic bitch AR?

https://youtu.be/tPplBrmvlL8

>>28630552
wtf is that image from

>>28632547
boku no pico

>>28630660
I always thought it was like the bendy pencil trick but now I think I'm wrong .

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>>28632558
This

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>tfw I will never have a Vector in 50 Beowulf

Is it even feasible?

>>28632683
Sure. But stupid.

>>28630545
>10mm vector

So we're all buying this right?

>>28632712
I need to feed my autism

Would you care to explain to me why?

>>28632335
That's a dumb reply

>>28633241
For you.

Might sound like a stupid question, but one of these with the 16 barrel and a stock would be classified as a rifle right? Meaning if I walk into my FFL I'm purchasing under the states rifles requirements, not pistol correct?

>>28632760
>tfw Canadian poorfag
Probably not, shit would probably be like $3000 around here.

>>28633571
Yup. You'd still be under the usual requirements for buying pistol ammo if you tried to buy ammo for it in a store, though.

Unrelated note, where has all the damn .357sig gone?

>>28630591
It's recoil pattern is different than usual. Because the bolt goes down into that big block behind the magwell, the force is mostly up-down instead of forward-back. Because of this, new users find it weird, but once you've figured it out, most reports I've seen say it's actually easier to control.

.22 Vector when?

>>28631951
I rented that one, I'm going to buy one of the folding stock models

>>28633642
Not ammo, the gun itself.

>>28630576
it's a polymer jacket over a steel frame. the stock has a single hinge pin. so the stock wobbles, and the polymer jacket moves as well, however the frames do not move in relationship to each other

the very long barrel doesn't help at all - it is meant to only be 5" inch, not 16".

>>28631842
yeah... the "lower" is the receiver unfortunately. look where your serial number is. you would need to transfer an entirely new firearm.

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>>28630545
Call me when it's in a proper caliber.


Like .308

>>28631994
Nah, anon is just talking out of his asshole.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWhSMIWZN3M

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>>28630560
>all that fat jiggling around

>>28630671
you can have a 10mm MP5 built

>>28631994
Its hard to control because of its full retard fire rate. It shoots at 1100-1200 rpm. The sweet spot is about 700 to 800 according to the wizards of smart on the internet. I'm not sure they can make the gun shoot any slower but if they could they need to.

>>28634729
Nah, its tricky to get accustomed to its impulse. Control is the whole point of the gun

>>28635342
If control is the whole point of the gun then slow down the cyclic rate. 1200 rpm is almost useless.