>>28623210 I'm just a married E-4 and I made $44000 this year total, including housing and meal pay. That's not really that bad, and especially considering my wife is working too. Military pay is pretty shit, but it's not nearly as bad as some make it out to be.
The real problem is that military people are "poor minded". They buy cars that are priced out of their means, buy a cell phone that is too expensive, blow their money on dumb shit, etc.
I'm one of these people, but I still have about $500 out of every $1020 paycheck left to blow on whatever I want. Most of it goes to gun stuff.
>>28623210 Gee whiz, it must suck having the tax payers pay for any and all medical problems for the rest of your life, getting free license plates, and getting free money FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE AT THE TAX PAYER'S EXPENSE
IT MUST SUCK BEING YOU
Makes me wonder how much of the defense budget is just going towards paying for retirement funds, and how many of those retirement funds belong to people in combat roles.
>>28623210 Agreed anon. Unless you're completely retarded with finances or having a money-sucking whore of a dependent, military pay is awesome for a guy without a degree is great. As an E-3 I had a cellphone bill and a Netflix subscription. I was able to max out my (admittedly small) TSP contribution and still put $1100 into the bank every month living in the barracks.
You don't need a car as a JEW, and you sure as shit don't need to be blowing 200 dollars a weekend partying.
>>28623361 I hate having to go to the hospital on base, since there are a shit ton of cases of malpractice but I can't sue them or anything if they fuck up and paralyze me or a famity member. Shit actually sucks
>>28623422 My cousin actually has cerebral palsy due to malpractice, and there was shit all my aunt and uncle could do because it was a birth on base.
But, all in all, I do see what he's saying. The healthcare problem is so prevalent that fucker Obama rode the MUH FREE HEALTHCARE wave to two terms in office, and these people have the gall to complain about pay?
For fuck's sake, learn how to save and quit bitching. It's not like anyone will ever try to lower your pay or take your (many) benefits away, because the opposing political party would go straight for the throat because you just did something wrong to Muh Troops, Muhfugga
>tfw no more hood rich deployment pay PFCs >no more new year corvettes, BMWs, and Fords parked outside barracks >no more 19yo joes with 22+ yo stripper fiances named "Chanel" or "Bubbles" >no more watching recently home E4s get DUIs driving 17mph truly the end of a great era.
Thing about enlisted is you'll never be "poor", but you won't be rich either. Being single helped out during deployments. I'd put my shit in storage, put my cell and car insurance on hold, and pocket all my pay while I'm gone. Do this 3 times and you can build up nice rainy day fund
>>28624089 They did a sweep of the dorms one day at my base looking for contraband, mostly stupid shit like candles and hotplates. One security forces guy in the same hall as me stole some grenades from work and was keeping them in his room.
>>28623234 mil pay only sucks when you blow your money at a used car dealership getting a 2010 mustand with 25% interest then spend the rest of your money at the purple church or rusty spur in oceanside.
This is why I want to spam the fuck out of every "enlistment general" thread. Single Joes make around $480 month extra just for being on flight status, as opposed to your otherwise normal unmarried grunt. Despite this, people buy tons of dumb shit and figure out ways to make themselves broke anyways. It's funny that same way watching a trainwreck is funny.
>spoiler alert: Most of that money comes from not having your BAS deducted.
>>28624204 Don't have to be married to live off base. Depending on you branch/base policies and room availability. Friends of mine got off base after 6 months, I had to spend 3 years in the dorms. But eventually you'll get off base, just keep your guns at home or an offbase friends place til then
>>28623529 >COLA virtually no one gets that anymore outside of specific circumstances >BAH better be married, a SNCO, an officer, or activated reserves serving away from home for that one. >food stipend gets automaticaly take back out of your paycheck and given to the company that runs the chow hall, if you live on base. Otherwise it's about $350 if you are actually drawing BAH.
>>28624954 grats, you're also a big exception to what I outlined. Not saying no one gets those things, it's just a rarity as the majority of duty assignments across all branches don't rate them and won't get them.
>>28624081 Yeah, though with most people I'd say 30. You have time to get established in life, at least get a little money saved and figure out what you want to do and at least make some progress towards it... and get a little life experience that makes you more able to spot what you want long term vs what you want tonight, which can be a huge difference when it comes to getting married. Believe me!
>>28624665 >pension, life insurance, health, dental, optical, per diem, and a company car.
What do you do? I'm in healthcare and I've got the pension, health/dental/optical, but not the rest of it...Don't really care about the life insurance because I'm single with no kids.
A friend of mine recently got offered a job as a manufacturer's rep for a pacemaker company. Basically, it entails helping the cardiologist choose the right model pacemaker for a patient, and helping them program it properly in surgery (you just work a laptop, you're not cutting anyone or sticking your fingers in them or anything--that's the doc's job, though you are in the OR at the time). Pays about $150k/year, the area covered means a max of an hour's commute to the surgery location. Requirement is a bachelor's degree, though they don't care what it's in. They train you for about a year before turning you loose with the docs. It sounds pretty awesome, though I think the big downside is having to work with cardiologists. in medicine, those guys have the biggest egos and senses of entitlement I've ever seen. Lot's of other surgeons are bro-tier if you show a little respect, but THOSE guys are often just flat-out jackasses.
>>28623361 >medical for life Only for injuries sustained while in service and only for that specific injury. If you get out without injuries then you get covered for 5 years but it isn't free. Some small co-pay or some shit. I have it, it's okay.
>free licence plates Where? I'd like to know.
>free money For retirees. You also get it just by being a federal employee though there is a difference as to when you can start drawing it if you are active duty for 20 years.
>>28623652 >poor guidance Pretty much. At least for the USMC we only step in when the Marine is having consistent money issues. Otherwise it's just a yearly class on finance that takes like 5 minutes. On the bright side there are a lot of guys who know their shit about finances and try to help young Marines avoid stupid mistakes, the little shits just don't bother to listen most of the time.
>>28624051 Used to make you fill out some paper work bullshit that your NCOs had to sign off on. Didn't work for shit though.
>>28624059 Armorers/custodians will hate you and/or you will never see your funs until you get out. Since it's in the armory the armorers/custodians will need to take accountability of your weapon and give it to you if it's stored there. So if you want your stuff they'll have to open the armory to give it to you. Good luck having it happen anytime other than work hours unless you are good friends with them. Better to just get climate controlled storage unit. That's what I did.
>source I was an armory custodian for my unit before I got out.
>>28623210 Seriously though. I know tons of military guys and vets who act like they're so put-upon because they didn't become millionaires. They have security that lots of people can only dream of, but it's some huge awful sacrifice because they work in the same branch as people who do dangerous stuff.
The worst is that the potential value of the education you can get while in the military is amazing. I know people who did useful degrees like nursing and business as enlisted men and are now very wealthy because they put that free education to work when they got out.
>>28627539 >education The thing that sucks with that, especially when we were still doing deployments to asscrackistan and iraq, is that there is a lot of bullshit that gets in the way. For example, one of the units I was in said you had to get 7 MCI's (Marine Corps Institute or some bullshit, it was "extracurricular" learning about your job and shit) before they will let you apply to take classes. Well my unit was faggots and it took forever to get 7 done, as they had to print them out and it was just so damn hard to print them out when you aren't doing a damn thing. Finally I got them all done and lo and behold, I got sent to the MEU (31 worst mang). Now I just plain didn't have the time to go to the damn classes. Then after the MEU I left Okinawa before I was able to take a class. At my new unit we just plain didn't have the time since we were CBAF (I think that's how you spell it, basically the most ready to deploy unit in the USMC). So we did a bunch of fucking training that left me without any time to do classes. Fucking sucked. At least I got the Post 9/11 GI Bill. Gonna use that baby here in a few months.
>>28627802 Well like I said, my old unit was pretty fucking gay. POG units fucking suck and then any unit in Okinawa is fucking gay so we had a really shitty unit. Shit was so gay you could feel the AIDS dripping from your asshole. The grunt unit I was in just before I got out was awesome. I would have been able to do the classes and all that shit easily with them except at the time we were CBAF and had recently won shit like best squad in the USMC and other bullshit. I just got to the unit at a time they were really busy. Feel sorry for them right now. Bunch of boots in there, they lost something like 3/4 Marines that all got replaced by new guys (boots).
>>28627964 The Stabbing: No The shooting: maybe >be 17 >be an idiot who wants to make money >dinky mexicans who sell drugs offer me money >I agree to send some package somewwhere >just arrive >car pulls up behind me, asshole throws a brick at me >I throw it back. >the dink in the passenger pulls out a pistol and shoots me in the arm. >I hit the ground, whaling. >it wasn't fun but not really that painful (that comes later >two other dinky mexicans run out of the place I was waiting at >They help me up and take me inside >I tell them to call the hospital >They do no such thing. >one of them takes out a blow torch. >ShitniggerShitniggerShitniggerShitniggerShitniggerShitniggerShitniggerShitniggerShitnigger >before I can run away they hold me town. >They ply out the bullet. >He then gently... burns that shit shut. >they then bandage it. >They were at least nice enough to give me free whisky. >>28628006 This was no where near Chicago so no.
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