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Fascism In Oregon

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Yeah, yeah.... inb4 banned for politics...

Under this wonderful progressive new legislation in Oregon, your doctor, teacher, boss, or family member can snitch on you if they *think* you're experiencing a 'mental health emergency.' At which point a SECRET firearms purchasing hold is placed upon you, and the legislation specifically says they don't have to inform you until you try and buy a firearm. (They don't actually TAKE your firearms like they do now in Califailia, but I'm sure that dangersous loophole will be plugged next year... or the year after... or...)

The guy who introduced it is apparently pic related. The Democrats control both houses of the legislature in Oregon, and their new governor is a batshit-crazy bisexual who's been pushing the whole trannie-kids-in-either-school-restroom issue. So when and if this Soviet-style bullshit makes it to the floor, it will pass.

Oregon /k/ommandoes, I suggest you raise hell. And I suggest the rest of you keep an eye on your own supposedly free states.

Nothing follows.

http://www.oregonfirearms.org/maybe-the-most-dangerous-bill-ever

http://www.oregonfirearms.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/mental-health-bill.pdf
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>>28607728
WA and Oregon are getting fucked to hell by California's who didn't feel safe in California. Now that garbage is flooding north, away from the shit hole.

Full goddamn stop.
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>>28607971
Nah. By and large you're doing it to yourselves. Those metrosexual assholes in every large American city from Seattle to Austin to New Yawk aren't from California. They're your own people. They're part of the same phenomenon.

Fight or die.
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>>28607728
>>28608023
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>>28608330
I'll be damned if I know why you keep posting that. All it proves is I'm a sucker for false advertising.
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Bye, I guess.
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>>28608374
There's no 'false advertising', you clearly just fucked up.

Also it's just funny.
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>>28608330
Po-Ju is so good
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>>28607728
>Prozanski
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As a firearms enthusiast and some with common sense, I would say anyone who is diagnosed as on the verge Of a breakdown should be monitored and regulated. Should be mandatory for all doctors to report this. Only a fucking idiot would argue mental disabilities pose no threat.
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>>28608468
it's a sad day when i'm more interested in talking about po-ju than what laws are trying to get passed

secret journey was awesome too
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>>28608578
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Dont associate this liberal marxist leftist fucking horseshit with fascism.

Fascism is the best government system.

It's clear that democracy has failed. The majority of people are too fucking stupid for democracy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDLyKSYRqXM
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>>28608556

Sure they should be monitored, but your rights should not be removed without due process. Someone who has had a bad day should not have their rights taken away.

Say your wife dies and you are found having a break down outside the liquor store. You are committed for evaluation. Now you can't own guns forever even though therapy worked. You aren't a threat to anyone else.

There's no right to appeal. There's no way to reinstate your right. It's not like you've committed a crime.

I'm for a temporary ban after being committed for a mental health issue. Maybe 30 or 60 days. I'm sure I'll catch hell on here from people saying it, but that's okay. You're committed for whatever, your rights are removed for a month or two, you are cleared by a medical professional, and your rights are reinstated.

There has to be a process. It can't simply be the judgment of a Joe Shmoe police officer to remove your rights forever just because you've had a bad day. It'd be different if you committed a felony during your break down-- we already have laws to enforce that.
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>>28608578
That movie gives me the urge to buy a USP
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>Prozanski
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The first part of the bill doesn't sound like a bad idea but there doesn't seem to be any clear way to have gun rights restored and it sounds like it could be easily abused. If you had a way to flag someone that would then require a mental evaluation that doesn't sound like an awful idea.
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>>28608556
The problem is that it can be put into place by your wife your on the outs with. Or an angery mother in law.
They need no proof and there is no penalties for false claims. There is no actual disorders covered or not covered, there is no perscribed method for knowing youve been listed other than trying to buy a gun
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I think the thing that really gets me about this is since this is since this bill is flagged as an emergency we layman can't vote on it. It may just be my experience but Oregon has quite a few pro-gun liberals
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>>28607728
>snitch on you if they *think* you're experiencing a 'mental health emergency.'

Could be a problem. No due process, etc.

>their new governor is a batshit-crazy bisexual who's been pushing the whole trannie-kids-in-either-school-restroom issue.

Wandering off topic a bit there. And providing probable cause for a 'mental health emergency' declaration. Stay focused. Pick your battles carefully.
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>>28608626
welcome to utopia.
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>>28608682
Rights shouldn't be taken away without due process until you prove yourself innocent, you have to be proven guilty (of being a danger in this case) to have them taken away.
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Saddest part about this is that whether people actually need the professional help or not they'll shy away from the doctor because you either come back with the same rights you had or less than you had.

Shit even regular medical care is more trouble than it's worth nowadays, its really a shame.

Same reason I know a lot of pilots hardly speak to the doctor, it can only fuck them.
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>>28608916
Portland has a lot of hipster gun owners. I'll go to gun shows sometimes and mixed in with all the Fudds and Mall ninjas, you'll see dudes in skinny jeans and Adidas buying AKs with the cash from their marketing or graphic design jobs.
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>retarded cuckservatives who honestly believe fascism was "anti-gun"

This is what they fought for in ww2, international marxism.
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>>28607728
>Phil
>being anti-fascism
Now I've seen everything!
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Love it! East German style snitching sjw style.
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>>28607728
>their new governor is a batshit-crazy bisexual who's been pushing the whole trannie-kids-in-either-school-restroom issue

Way to make your message easy to dismiss by any moderates. You're just like the NRA, bashing the 'godless left'. Keep alienating potential allies, and watch as your gun rights slowly slip away.
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>>28607971
Yeah, shut the fuck up, no.

Californians aren't doing anything to any state but California. Oregonians are voting in Oregon, that's why these things happen here and anywhere else.
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I don't see the problem with it.

It's a firearms hold; you'd be able to look further into it, and most likely get your gun in the end. It doesn't take away existing guns.

The left isn't going to stop, and some sort of concessions need to be made without flat out taking away guns.

Basically if someone thinks you're a nutter, you gotta explain yourself. I'd already take a gun away from a friend if I thought he was going to off himself or do something similar, the legislation falls close to that.

Also, why you need to bring up the bisexual trannie stuff, is obsolete. Ya, probably means he would be more likely to pass it, but I don't think you need to bring that around /k/ since that seems to be a large percentage of our demographics. That's not really gun related either.
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>>28608374
This is why I don't use a tripcode Phil, and I've been here like 5 years now (we've argued several times, all in all you're probably not a bad guy personally, but there's a shitload of stuff I disagree with you vehemently on. You'd probably be ignoring me right now, if I didn't always post anonymously).

I've fucked up before too, and in worse ways than trap porn. But the thing I love about 4chan is that it lets people post anonymously, which whether I like what people say or not, let's people post post how they honestly feel about a topic without worrying about suffering for it.

And getting around self-censorship is a powerful tool for discussing issues (even though this place devolves into shitposting a LOT). Not to mention that not having the baggage of your previous posts, though that's something of a double-edged sword (I've also seen people referring to me by my posting style and opinions, though). And that's why I'll never use Reddit for anything aside from niche topics like Elite: Dangerous (it's a video game).
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>>28607728
what the fuck is with the mods on this board?, got a warning for posting a link to the Washington Assault Weapons laws coming up.
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>>28612251
k mods hate k. keep posting.
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>>28608916
>since this is since this bill is flagged as an emergency we layman can't vote on it.

This right here. THIS is what you should be using to fight this. Bring this to your reps and demand that it's a loophole being used to strip away your rights that needs to be closed. This isn't martial law, where is the 'emergency'? This is simply them using an arbitrary declaration to sneak through unpopular legislation that removes a right without due process and push an agenda. This should be illegal.
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>>28614181
This is how they passed the private sales background check, so you can bet that until they get dragged across the carpet for doing so that this is how they will pass every single gun bill that's drafted
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>>28610779
>>28610900
Hey look everybody. Good Germans.
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>>28610900
fuck off
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>>28614235
You are a fascinating individual that claims to support fascism yet hate all aspects of it.
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>>28614283
You may have that backwards
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>>28610900
>Basically if someone thinks you're a nutter
Britbong confirmed
Opinion discarded
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>>28612251
what law?
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>>28607971
Thankfully most of the commiefornians only move to Vegas when they move to Nevada because everywhere outside of Clark county won't tolerate their shit
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>>28608556
>Only a fucking idiot would argue mental disabilities pose no threat.

The mentally ill have no higher rate of violent acts than the general population.

The idea that the mentally ill are all axe murderers waiting to snap is a hollywood fabrication on the same level as "silencers make a gun go phht phht."

You are part of the problem.
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>>28607728
You don't know what fascism is.
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>>28615207
Using the smashmouth power of the party and state to disenfranchise, rob, humble, fuck over, kill, or imprison an entire segment of the populace sounds an awful lot like the textbook definition of fascism to ME. This is how it begins. We all know how it ends.
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>>28608374
The funny thing is, if you had just quietly let it slide and pretend you were into that sort of thing, our odd little /k/ommunity probably wouldn't have thought anything of it.

But if it's any consolation... to me, you'll always be the sharkfucker.
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>>28615298
You're probably thinking about totalitarianism.
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>>28615350
>But if it's any consolation... to me, you'll always be the sharkfucker.

I second this. I never stop laughing at it.
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>>28607971
>California is the root cause of all evil
I want this meme to end
I also would like better gun laws
But since all the usual faggots existing in the big cities make all the decisions and my votes not with a damn I'm gonna fuck off to Arizona
Fuck off with the >all commies are from cali
Bullshit
I just decent gun laws and not assholes running everything here its suffering I want out man before trump decides to build a wall to keep all the faggots from San Fran, LA, and Diego getting out

Basically not every Californian is from the shit piles that can barely be called "cities" that I've metioned above some of us just want freedom
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So in your Oregon minds, just how many liberal Californians have migrated over enough to swing your viciously red state to blue?

Give me a number. I'll wait.
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>>28615350
>to me, you'll always be the sharkfucker.
/bows
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>>28610900
>Basically if someone thinks you're a nutter, you gotta explain yourself

Haha no.
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>>28615594
going to pull a number out of ass and say five hundred thousand or more in the last 50 years

I blame Californias access to social media more than anything
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Freedooooooooomz
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>>28607728
If this is how you are going to argue against it I hope they take your guns away.
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>>28615814
Nope, just how retard Phil wants people to argue over it
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So this is basically 21st-Century Neo-McCarthyism brought to you by Facebook drama, bad breakups, and Thanksgiving dinner arguments?

>'Murica
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>>28610980
I remember phil from /x/ back in 2008. How time flies.
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>>28607728
stop confusing fascism with communism, phil.

what the president is supporting is progressive totalitarianism with the intent leveraging communism.

Im honestly getting tired of explaining it to you and at this point Im apt to believe that you're either retarded or intentionally misrepresenting fascism because you're a closet commie.
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>>28615755
>I blame Californias access to social media more than anything

wow.
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>>28608330
>thinks hating fags is frowned upon here

I think you're confusing the ironic shitposting and trolling with a love for faggots.
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>>28608641
probably polish, not jewish
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>>28615350
When did Phil fuck a shark?
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>>28616055
he got his trip from that. it's from an almost-decade-old cracked article
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>>28610779
the dick your sucking belongs to the government
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>>28616029
what? i'm entitled to my opinion, regardless of how asinine and insane it might be

but do we really need to know what katy perry is doing on twitter? or what some faggot with ironic facial hair in L.A thinks about some roadside burrito he bought? or what ISIS is planning to do with our waifus?

yeah you can say "Ignore it" but it's still there, screaming, farting, and flailing on the floor like an epileptic at a rave club
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>>28616072
Got a link?
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>>28612251
post whatever you want and learn how to reset you ip, fucking mods are powerless cucks
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>>28616085
http://www.cracked.com/article_15661_harry-potter-book-disguises.html
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>>28615814
I feel as if there is one faggot in this thread that took exception to phil calling out the gov on being a pole smoking tranny lover and he keeps same fagging (literally).
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>>28616079
So you want to baby the people because they can't think for themselves and are easily influenced by media?
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>>28610900
>The left isn't going to stop, and some sort of concessions need to be made

You typed this unironically, didn't you? I'm not going to berate you and call you names. I'm not going to sperge and rage. I just want you to know that you're worse than the liberals that push this shit. At least they believe in something and have the sack to fight for it.
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>>28614235
Oh boy, you're retarded.
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