What is the best vehicle for operating?
Clearly it must be:
>at least somewhat quick to escape risky situations
>4 wheel drive
>decent off road capability
>lots of interior storage space
>fairly common so parts are readily available
>as reliable as possible
my nomination is pic related
>>decent off road capability
>late model Tahoe
It has IFS, open differentials, an automatic transmission, an eletronic transfer case and very poor ground clearance.
If they didn't cost a metric arm and leg and came with actual off road tires and 17 inch wheels that could be a contender
i like those too and they are reliable as fuck
they are slow as fuck all though
would make any evasion tactics very difficult
>horrendous reliability and sky high part costs
>good for the habbening
try again faggot
i guess you dont understandt he difference between decent and incredible.
youre most likely not going to be rock crawling in it, the car needs to be just as capable a road as it is off it. and its ground clearance is fine what are you talking about.
also are you implying an automatic transmission is bad for offroading? are you mentally retarded that is offroading 101
i like dis
>slow as fuck
I thought about it,but concessions had to be made somewhere. Maybe a Hilux instead.
>that there 12 second 0-60
>yfw the zombies are walking right next to you while youre flooring it
>mfw everyone is firing out the windows blowing out everyones eardrums
FUCK OFF /O/
my car (pic not mine)
2005 jeep wrangler
shit capacity in two door
horrid gas mileage
4 door or long version would be better
>tfw my jeep has 20,000 miles at 11 years old
>tipping over while you try to escape
>Fords and Chevys from the 80s are shit
>Dodge had the last decent truck before trucks became glorified grocery getters
dodge has never made a good truck and there are plenty of great trucks from the 90s and early to mid 00s
Wranglers are pretty readily available in terms of parts and actual cars. Decent off road without any real modification needed. Low on power.
Pic related is my vote, even the v6 models had more horse and torque than the jeeps and very comparable to an unmodded wrangler in terms of capability, parts, and availability
>implying it needs 4WD
I'll operate all day on one of these bad boys.
>yfw you can only carry 3 snickers bars for supplies
>yfw you eat two of them during the habbening
While you're boasting about how many sniggers bars you have in the back of your faggy Chevy I'll be going places you could never reach and going faster than you.
Psssh, nothing personnel, kid.
Did I trigger you? Why do you have to hate the twingo?
>Dodge never made a good truck
>tfw when I have a 76 w200 I bought new
>tfw I have a 85 w150 w/ 275,000 miles my dad bought new
>tfw I still work both hard on the farm
>tfw they've outlasted both the 94 Chevy 3500 and 03 f250 I had
2016 Cadillac Escalade Platinium
Plus all this
Reinforced and heated treated frame and chassis
Bullet proof and soundproof Windows
Sapphire glass coating
Ceramic plating & Kevlar
Carbon steel mesh
Engine and underbody:
Reinforced engine, chassis, and parts.
Heat treatment applied to engine chassis and parts.
Cosmoline and phosphate coating,
Titanium Nitride & Ceramic Coating
Cerakote, Teflon, Krylon coating.
Then sealed with plastidip and rubber/polymer where heat isn't generated.
Carbon fiber encasement with tungsten mesh and ceramic plating.
Kevlar and ceramic plating,
Carbon fiber body, Teflon coating inside body with thin tungsten mesh.
Teflon on the bottom half of the car.
Rust oleum recolor
x9 ceramic glass coating, plastidip painted.
Kevlar run flat tires
Steal rims with coatings,
Upgrade brake rotors, pads, and capiters.
Blind spot Mirrors
Upgraded headlights bulletproof glass
5% tinted windows
Sound proof Windows
All weather floor mats
Fleece, velvet carpet
Real exotic wood
Vinyl and leather
Heads up display
Insulated body to retain heat
Air flirtation system,
Thermal/ nightvision/ UV Cameras for rear and front.
Upgraded speaker system surround sounds and subwoofers
Airbags on the sides front and back
Sensors front, rear, sides
Camera front, rear, sides
Heads up display
Fog lights, brights, Xeon, LEDs
Neons underbody lights
License plate coated with reflective anti camera Spray
License plated covered with reflective film and distortion cover
>to new, be fucked if something computer wise went out
>90-95 ford bronco.
Anything with EFI is going to be fucked "if something computer wise went out"
>Fords and Chevys from the 80s are shit.
My '88 F-250 is so deliciously shitty. You can turn it on without the key, It stalls when you put it into drive without letting it warm up, and all the windows leak (but it's ok because there's a hole in the floor). It's a 10/10 truck would donate to ISIS.
Klr650 can plow through the woods without care or go down the road at 55 mpg and carry enough gear to support me
Jeep engines are fucking shit, why do you think everybody does diesel swaps on them?
Ford 3.6 > jeep 3.6
Ford 4.0 > I'm not even sure if jeeps have a 4.0 option
Ford 5.0 (yes they came with them) > any option short of a diesel swap
Stock capability is close enough to the jeep that it doesn't matter
the 440, while being a damn good setup with a 6 pack, is not near common enough to be useful. for me a good F150 with a SBF is perfect because they put the same, or nearly the same motor in everything around the late 90's to early 00's. to the point if ford made a vespa scooter, they'd have offered a goddamned SBF powered version.
1st gen 1986 4runner checking in,
> 4 wd
> bulletproof engine
> can drop the top for a jeep wrangler with jap reliability,
> tailgate drops.
> 2 doors 4 more whores
> roof is accessible and can hold goodies,
> this car is very good for extreme climbing and thus getting to places you aren't likely to find other people.
I would give this vehicle a SHTF score of 9/11
Another one of my vehicles is the 1994 mustang GT because even in the apocalypse this shit will break down and maybe will block off a road or some shit.
My 3rd and final entry would be my sports bike of a 2009 650r Ninja which would be very good on gas (35mpg+) and rip on the streets.
>stop pretending to know things
>because I don't remember every option ever available for a car
>while you don't know a vast majority of jeep owners that do off road things with them do a diesel swap out for the extra torque
Sure convinced me I'm wrong
Dodge is horseshit occasionally wrapped around a competent power train (really only the 12 valve). Always has been.
80s GM is the most truck truck to ever truck. They are goddamn elemental.
People who don't like them can go back into the aids clinic glory hole box.
Will outrun and out handled anything that's been posted so far. Perfectly suited as anything else in this thread for off roading. Plenty of room for storage.
Again, stop pretending you know things. My dad is a huge jeepfag, grew up with no less than three jeeps on our property at any given time. All of his buddies are jeep guys and all of their buddies buddies. I can recall one crazy dude and his brother that used to do 4cyl diesel swaps and that's it. Most jeep owners that want more power usually go with small block chevys. I have no idea where you get this silly notion that diesel swaps are common.
Best daily driver and operating vehicle coming thru
Adding extra fuel tank, brush guard, and a couple of guns
> dat 50 MPG
>cheap enough to buy a few spares
>based 1.0 L
>ten grand with necessary accessories
>top speed 35mph
>7hp/12 ftlb torque
Its cool as shit, and hopefully reliable, but fuck using one as a sole/primary vehicle.
Ill take it as a secondary, since they have a easy-load hitch rack for the thing. Stick it on the ass of [shortbed pickup/med-large SUV of your choice] and you have a fast, quiet, large capacity primary as well as a go anywhere secondary.
I had an 08 trailblazer that I drove for work for a long ass time. Fairly quick, topped out at 114, decent gas tank, 4x4 works great, and has average ground clearance, better with a lift and tires obviously.
My work vehicle was driven 24/7 (shared between 5 people), with about 400-600 miles per day (it was a patrol vehicle for my agency).
We beat the fuck outta that thing. First year alone it had 149k miles, and the only thing that broke was one of the seat height adjust arms cause some fatty flopped on it.
No major maintenance issues, got rid of it at 472k miles cause the transmission finally went out.
Would operate out of 10/10
>not adding expensive, awkward night vision goggles for small children to break
Son, I am disappoint
ITT: hurrr all of my vehicles are good for the habbening because I own them.
And they are pretty fucking standard moron, remove head from ass and fucking Google it or are you dumb enough to believe that an uncommon mod can support literally dozens of companies?
20,000 mi 11 years.
That's 1800 a year. That's like going to the grocery store and Mickey D's for tendies when you get tired of cooking or have to resupply every week. Maybe lgs occasionally. You are truly a need faggot
Jesus, only 20k?
My 300C is 9 years old and Ive put just shy of 240,000 miles on it.
>yes I'm on my second transmission, hooray lifetime powertrain warranty, I've used the shit out of it
My mom has a Benz. She spilled some water on top of the shifter since the provided cupholder broke, and it caused her vehicle to stop functioning and only drive in 2 gear.
My toyota i had a leak that flooded the entire body of the car with about 3 inches of water in the bottom of the frame and through control switches. I also have left the sunroof open in the rain for a day or so before with no adverse effects.
Fuck german cars! Good if you have disposable income.
Nah, this was for a private security agency.
They were all about saving money. They went through the dealership until the warranty expired, then just did oil rotations, tire rotations, and a transmission flush.
We still did a lot of hard driving though for emergency response.
Basically, if it was something that could be done by the driver, we did it. If it wasn't, it wasn't fixed.
For two years my ass sat at an angle where my left cheek was 2" higher than my right.
I love mercs, but something about having a water spillage in a god damn cup-holder causing the vehicle to stop working for a few days is fucking lunacy. Only reason it worked again is it was a hot summer in California and she could lower the convertible top.
Ive got a 02 Lexus RX300(expensive highlander) It leaks just about every fluid. It's got 230,000+ on the clock. I've overheated it, ran it out of oil, and ran it out of trans fluid. It just won't die.
Cartels are a fucking puppet; supported only to destabilize Mexico. If anything were to happen to the Middle East oil supply Mexico is the next one to be tapped. The government will claim it's a failed state and too corrupt to function without aid. Have the EU and NATO follow in suit to wipe the cartels off the map. Just remember the bay of pigs, remember who the CIA hired to kill Castro. To not assume the government is working hand in hand with the mafia is stupid and fucking immature. If anything, the Mafia (the outfit and five families) have more control than the cartels can ever dream of. Why don't you hear about it? Because they are doing their job well.
Doing their job so well, nobody even knows they are pulling the strings from the shadows. The cartels aren't shit, but a bunch of drug dealers with too much cash to spend. Only allowed to live and continue their meaningless existence to provide a purpose. As soon as they serve that purpose, they will be disposed of accordingly.
No, the mob went legit because they aren't fucking savages.
You really are some fucking kid who wants to be a mobster, probably not even Italian, got a last name like Johnson or some shit.
What's the best for operating? Probably a big ass truck/suv you can fit lots of guys with guns in.
What's the best for you, a casual weekend outdoorsman? Probably something like a rav4 or Subaru.
You'll regret getting something more dedicated for off-road when you realize a 2wd nissan sentra can make it on just about any pre-carved path (I know from firsthand experience). You don't need a massive amount of ground clearance, huge tires, and a super powerful super inefficient engine unless you're doing serious stuff, and even then a truck is not made specifically for that purpose. Trucks are purpose built for hauling, SUVs are supposed to be for off-road, but sadly now they're mostly for hauling fat people and their kids. Compact SUVs still drive better though than shit like a jeep which has terrible handling/reliability and a newer 4runner/anything ford that can't fit on any path and sends your gas bill skyrocketing higher than Hitler's.
I've driven out to rescue idiots that got their trucks stuck (through no fault of the trucks, mind you) in a Mercury Sable (was in high school, wasn't my choice of car)
They acted like I was some kind of hero because I seemed to understand that the drier, hard ground is better to drive on, and when you're stuck you don't floor it
One side, plebs.
>Sweet-ass Cold War aesthetics
>Great fuel economy
>Stellar, absolutely top-tier off-road capabilities
>Still capable of doing highways speeds
>More fun than a barrel of monkeys, a real "put a smile on your face" car to drive
>Has its own sweet trailer-fill it with SHTF gear and drag it all the way up to your bug-out location
>Capable of mounting a variety of arms, up to and including TOW
>Cheap, parts aren't any worse than any other VW
>Engine can be swapped for a TD
Besides the fact it lacks armor, it's pretty much perfect.
People get bold (or stupid) when they drive trucks. They'll see a mud hole and think oh yeah bro I can totally make it through that! A non-brotruck driver would simply go around.
Having something dedicated off-road does help in those situations where you CANT go around, but how often do you face that? Enough to consider it a necessity worthy of the fuel economy reduction? That's my biggest concern for an SHTF vehicle, not off-road capability but fuel economy. Considering soobs and ravs get around the same mileage as a car they're the best option imo.
>He never took one off-road
I did Land-Nav in one, and the driver pushed the shitbox Iltis eerily close to 90 degrees, at least 70+. Granted, we weren't going very fast, but it just floored me.
And everything from mud and wet sand up to the sills to -47C blizzards were fine. If it got C entered on a rock or something, they weigh nothing, so you can't get them off easily. They'll even float, if you seal them up right. But they couldn't accept armor packages, so they were phased out.
memetrucks for life. Pic is google but mine is scary identical. 2wd but I got it for $400 bones.
Honestly I've owned a pretty decent cross section of cars and I love the little Toyota the most. Feels like Far Cry 4 every time I hop in.