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>all this custom shit
>$1430 MSRP
>two 15rd 9mm magazines
>15rd fucking magazines in the year 2016
>no mecgars

Why the actual fuck is this allowed?
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I've actually wondered the same thing. I hate having to buy a bunch of mags after I've gotten a gun that came with two, because they're two low capacity ones. There's no excuse for not using MecGar flushfits.
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>>28533547
Convince me not to buy one. I was finger fucking a P226 Legion today at my gun shop.
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>>28533547

I don't see what's wrong with 15 rounders but the fact that it's all that money and you only get two mags is bogus
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>>28533604
>>28533570
plus the 15 round factory mags are more expensive than the 18 round ones mecgar makes
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>>28533547
Wait, isn't that a 226? mecgar makes a shitton of mags for them
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>>28533547
Aka reasons to buy a mk25. Pic related, I spent $100 bucks total on a SRT and and p224 slide catch lever (to keep yeti thumbs like mine from riding the lever on last round). Both take all of 5 minutes to swap (10 if you watch the entire YouTube video on how to swap).

Also you get 3 of those 15 rounders and an anchor. Everyone knows anchors > Mulan labia runes.
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>>28533590
I'm sure it's nice and all, but you're really better off not buying in to any of Sigs new age marketing gimmicks. It'll just encourage them. Also, the price is outrageous for what you're getting.
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>>28534458
My fucking nigga. I asked you about that p224 slide release button a few months back.

How's the phosphate coating on those things? Is it as good as it claims to be?
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>>28534543
No rust so I guess it's working....that slide catch lever swap made it a whole new gun.
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>>28534642
>that slide catch lever swap made it a whole new gun.

I am considering on doing this when the need arises to swap out my old style mainspring assembly and if I do decide to get an srt in mine.

Just got two mecgar 18 rounders in the mail so I can manage without it.
>mfw the legion seems to have a p224 slide release slapped right on it
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>>28534721
Taking that gun apart is almost as easy as doing a full 1911 strip, the only difference being that so many of the parts have springs keeping them under constant tension, and also the slide requires fresh roll pins and a roll pin punch. Otherwise it's fairly straightforward forward. I wish the firing pin was a bit easier to get at for cleaning.
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>>28533547
I have a P228
fondled the Legion P229

very nice feel with the undercut at the trigger guard. the action has been tuned/smoothed by the Sig custom shop. can confirm that the Legions are a step above the rest of their combat pistols
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I'll just stick with the cheap model P226 and the extra $50 SRT kit I installed.
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>>28534801
I've taken apart the frame for deep cleaning a few months back. I ran into some big trouble. Turns out the ejector was a hair too small so I had to order a few new parts and it took me a month of trying to fix it.

So that's why I sorta hold off from replacing my mainspring or getting an srt.

>I wish the firing pin was a bit easier to get at for cleaning.

This is what's bothering me at the moment. I'm having some problems with my gun making a snapping sound and not firing on double action at times. I don't know if it's because the internals of the slide are gunked up but I'm pretty apprehensive of taking it all apart.
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>>28534543
Omnifox and I are both huge Sig shills but the rust meme is at least a bit true. Both he and I have had Sigs have rust issues in the past and he is still testing the waters with his Legion.

My MK-25 has not seen any rust issues like my old P226, but the grip screws do want to rust pretty badly. Besides those, which are obviously not phosphate coated, the gun has not had any signs of rusting. This is all from 90-100% humidity Houston for the record.
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>>28535153
To install the SRT is fairly straight forward. There are a few videos on YouTube about getting it in, and the process itself seems much more daunting than it actually is. I watched the videos a couple times before I sat down with my punch set and got to work.

As for your issue, you can test it by sliding a pencil down the barrel, eraser first, and trying to fire in DA/SA. It should launch the pencil a few feet.
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>>28535378
Yeah, if I had to do it again, I could install the sear assembly with absolute ease, no problem at all because my fingers are small enough.

But I had problems with how my parts fit so I'm not keen on replacing it any time. As for my trigger problem, I just tested it and it didn't work. I can reliably make it not strike the pin if I pull the trigger rear and towards the right. I've had this problem frequently at the range too and at first I thought it was a hangfire.
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>>28535358
Omnifox is fat. You are fat.
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>>28535358
Make with the adding the e2 grips. They're like the sex.
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>>28535358
so alternatively you could just get a regular P226 and have it cerakoted and have the same effect right?
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>>28535453
But the anchor
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>>28535449
Had them before, hate them.
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>>28535453
Yeah but no anchor so what's the point. Same reason the only way I will ever buy a Glock is if they make a 19 with an anchor called the MK-26
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>>28535501
By any chance do you have a p228? I'm wondering if there's any sort of different in width of grip between them and a p226.

My 226 is exactly this.
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>>28535510
probably soon enough seeing as glocks winning those military contracts.
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>>28535519
Probably, still waiting on an actual source rather than a SEAL on M4carbine saying they got holsters but no guns. Not like the P226 isn't the longest serving sidearm though tqbh familia.

>>28535512
I do not.
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What the fuck is wrong with Mec-Gar mags?

I have 3 for my P226R and they work great. They are identical to the factory mag minus the Sig Sauer logo.

>tfw in Colorado and no one will ship 18rd mags
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>>28535543
Nobody is badmouthing mecgars. Read the thread very carefully again.
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>>28533547
Seriously. I'm a proud fanboy of Sig, but come on...the G19 has 15 round mags. How does the p226 as a full size gun not have higher cap by default? The p320 full size has 17 round mags. I never understood this about sig. It's literally the only downside I've found to the p226. I of course got 18 round and 20 round mags from mec gar, but it's just out of principle that makes me say wtf sig....
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>>28533590
They're expensive.

If you have the money. fucking do it.
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>>28535543
>tfw in Colorado and no one will ship 18rd mags

literally why haven't you sold yours and bought a p228 or hell, a glock 19?

>>28535578
I agree. Sig is being retarded for not shipping their 226's with 18rd mecgars. But to be fair, the p226 was made in like 1984 or some shit so that's why they're usually 15 rounders. Still, this is absolutely no excuse for sig to use and further reenforces Cohen is a figurative jew
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>>28535606
>literally why haven't you sold yours and bought a p228 or hell, a glock 19?
I don't carry it and it was a pretty good deal in a pawn shop: $625 out the door.
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>>28533547
The P225A or whatever is even bigger bullshit.
>Hurr $1200 for a single stack 9mm
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>>28535656
Fair enough. Just know that the p228 balances out a bit more and is more compact. If I had the opportunity to trade my west german p226 for a west german 228, I would do it in a heartbeat.

>>28535660
>can't even use original p225 mags

What the fuck were they even thinking? Here I was actually somewhat interested in what they were planning to do with the new p225.
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>>28535660
I don't get why people can't find Sig's cheaper...my lgs has the p225 a1 in the low $900's. I bought my Mk25 for just under $1000. It's still expensive, but jesus not as expensive as people advertise..
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>>28535436
Lel
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>>28535740
It's because the majority of /k/ and 4chan as a whole are poorfags and have a slight hate for "expensive" things. They tend to overexaggerate how exensive things are and overstate MSRP prices fairly frequently.

Also sigs aren't that expensive, just a tad overpriced in my opinion. I'm still going to buy a p938 as my first cc gun and $600 ain't shit for such a gun.
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>>28535703
Damn those guns are sexy ;)
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>>28535783
Wise words.
Also I hope you've shot it, I'm assuming you have because it's not a usual first pick. I love the P938, such a sexy gun
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>>28535768
Sorry Omnifox, I didn't mean to offend.
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>>28535740
>tfw overpaid for my MK-25 just to say I spent over $1000 on a pistol
>tfw spent $1600 on it so far
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>>28535807
p225's are severely underrated sigs and handguns in general.
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>>28535783

Honestly, looking at the prices, I felt like I got lucky finding a p320 for 150 less msrp. Maybe I have been brainwashed by misconceptions.
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>>28535815
Nope, have never shot it. I do admit I really don't care about 1911's at this point but the fact that it has good sights, an even better trigger and is actually enjoyable to shoot for a pocket gun in 9mm make it really attractive to me.

At first I wanted a p239 but it's way too big.
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>>28535865
Oh believe me I know.
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>>28535891
You're the owner right? You cheeky fuck. >>28535807
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>>28535882
You'll be pleasantly surprised. It's the nicest shooting "pocket size" 9mm I've come across. Such a perfect balance of size imo.
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>>28535891
how much thinner is the 225 vs the 229? I am tempted to snag a 225 just to fill the gap.
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>>28535925
It should definately be a lot smaller. Sure, it's obsolete as fuck but I think my itty bitty manlet hands will love them. Probably going to get a german p228 along with a 225 someday down the line.
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>>28535925
Thin enough you can notice when carrying and shooting it...not thin enough to make a big difference though.
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>>28535966
>>28535975
I carry a 220Carry right now, I'm sure It'll be notable then.
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>>28535994
>Thin enough you can notice when carrying and shooting it

I told you it will be notable...

It won't be like going from a P229 to a G19 in size comparison, but it'll still be noticeable.
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>>28535836
>tfw my dad overpaid for my MK-25 just to say he spent over $1000 on a pistol
>tfw dad spent $1600 on it so far

Fixed that for ya!
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>>28536037
I mean, honestly, why is the daddy's money thing such a meme for angry anons on 4chan?

I can never figure out if it stems from a lack of money in general or a lack of love from an absent father figure. Either way I'm not rich, I'm just not a piece of shit poor person who buys Mosins.
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>>28536058
They're just jelly of our Mk25's...
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>>28535907
You got me.

>>28535925
It's quite a bit slimmer, and much more comfortable IMO. The P229 is wider than the P226, its a bit of a fatty.
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>>28533547
Fanboys anon, fanboys.

Same reason why glock sells outdated shit made of video game controller plastic for more than their competitors.
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>>28536284
This guy for example is fat, and I have large hands. It feels wider than a USP 45 with the rosewood grips.

The gun in pic related is much more comfortable to shoot, but still pretty big.

>>28536058
Because some of us have had to work for everything. I weeded pumpkin patches starting in 4th grade before school, and have held a steady job since I was 14. Not to sound like an elitist fuck, but it helped me work 40+ hour weeks through college, and more than likely got me my job with Jewman and ballSachs. Don't take this post like I was calling you out directly, because i'm not. I just think that is where the dank maymay came from.
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>>28533590
>10 miles of trigger travel
>DA/SA trigger
>not striker fired
>not the P320
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>>28536326
Forgot pic related.
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>>28536326
My father is a first generation American who didn't learn English until he was 12. I don't come from money and have worked for everything I have as well.

I just don't see why /k/ seems to think it is impossible anyone could own $1000+ toys.
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>>28536379
Like I said, I wasn't calling you out specifically. It's just where the mindset comes from. Everyone wants to feel accomplished, and it pisses some people off when others have an easier time acquiring nice goods. I just brush them off because I know I worked my ass off for what I have.
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>>28536284
>The P229 is wider than the P226

Isn't this because it was specifically designed for .40?
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>>28536433
I assume that is the reason, though I am not entirely sure.
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>>28535783
>It's because the majority of /k/ and 4chan as a whole are poorfags and have a slight hate for "expensive" things.
No, it is because /k/ is mostly noguns teens who get their prices out of buyers guides and web sites showing the list price.
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>>28536442
This may also be it.
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>>28536442
>>28536446
Seriously, people make a big fucking deal about buying a sig for $600 or an arsenal for $1,000. It's pretty sad desu
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>>28536442
We're talking about a site where they make threads hating on Geissele just because they think $230 is too much for a trigger.

They just don't understand nice things cost money.
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>>28533590

If you want to show of disposable income, get a sig, if you want a decent gun, don't.
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>>28535703
>P225
I remember you anon. I'm the guy who was searching for the P225/P6 surplus. Goddam those are nice.
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>>28536827
That wasn't me that posted the pic, but those are my guns

I remember you too friendo. Any luck on the search?
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>>28535096
Would be 9/10 handguns if not for the whole marketing lifestyle they're trying to push. If they didn't engrave it on the slide I might've gotten one and swapped out the grips
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>>28536883
honestly, that is a shitty reason for not getting one.
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>>28536877
Good memory anon. Somewhat, LGS has a W. German 220 .45 thats making me somewhat forget my 225/P6 dreams. But Im still searching.
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>>28537125
Get it! The P220 is my favorite Sig. I had a west German P220 that I have always regretted selling.
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>>28535453
Yes and no, the Mk25's internals are also phosphated, basically the entire slide and frame and most of the parts , aside from grip screws it's incredibly rust resistant, the finish should be standard (Although I hear sig's new finish on the regular guns is improved)
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>>28536877
>>28537125
Hey sigfriends, I'm wanting a P6 as well
What is a good price point to look/ask for?
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>>28537125
Anon, its me p225 guy, get the W. German P220. I have 10k through mine.
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>>28537546
350 for a beat up one with 1 magazine. Up to 450 for a nice P6. P225? Sky's the limit.
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>>28537194
>>28537561
I'm thinking thats what I'm gonna do. Same capacity, sexy gun and it's West German. Whats a good price for a used older P220? Also I saw another SIG he had, part of it was NH and I think the slide was German, any idea what thats about?
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>>28537632
I paid $500 for my P220 with 4 mag's, and some ammo and holsters. I got an exceptional deal. I would pay up to $600 for one if it was clean, and had the original zipper mags and box.

In regards to the split Sig's depending on when it was made it may be full German and just import marked. It may also have a US production slide and German frame. This P229 of mine has a legacy US milled slide, and a German production frame.
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>>28537699
I'll have to re check what he's asking but I'm positive its a W. German one and pretty clean looking but I didn't take it apart. Are the split SIGs any less quality than a full German one if there is such a thing?
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>>28537570
Thanks
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>>28535136
This guy gets it. And your gun actually looks nicer than the one in OP's pic. Higher cost doesn't always mean better.
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>>28537770
Both of my P229's have been dynamite solid, and one is an Exeter slide, German Frame, the other is fully Exeter.. The Exeter guns are nice as well, and my experience has been mostly positive. I will say that the carbon slide guns balance better than the stainless guns. That is the big benefit in my mind of the W. German guns.
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>>28537781
No problem compadre.
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>>28537879
Is it weird how the only exeter sig I would ever consider owning that is a P22X series barring a 239 is the mk25? I like the german ones because they're much more pleasing to the eye.

I dunno, I guess I just see the newer sigs as something like those overly customized 1911's.
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>>28537907
M11-A1 has that retro no-rail look
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>>28537907
I'm with you. The old guns are much more utilitarian in their look. They seem designed with purpose (military use and sales), compared to the new guns (designed with civilian sales as the primary driver). I guess to me the newer guns like the faggotmax Legion series are too much pizazz and flash for my taste.
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>>28537929
I also like this one, I should have added that.
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>>28533547
Weird. My brother has the P229 Legion and it comes with 15rnd mags, not the old 13rnd ones. I thought they were Mec-Gar.

Nice pistol, though. Excellent trigger, and all the little changes are welcome. Don't think I'd ever buy one though. He paid $1150 or something for it.
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>>28537987
>$1150

That's not too bad. The p229's are much more desireable anyways
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>>28533547
It's a fucking gimmick for retards. I can only buy your swag if I buy your gun? Sign me up!

Fuck Sig.
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>>28538171
Nah, not bad considering how much it sells for other places. He got it for $1150 total from a guy he knew who bought two identical P229s as soon as they were released. The guy had a washer or dryer shit out the very next day and needed money, so he sold one of the pistols NIB to my brother.

One local store has them for $1150+tax, which is pretty good too. Otherwise I've seen them locally and online for $1200-$1250.

>The p229's are much more desireable anyways

Yeah, I noticed the prices for the P229 seem to be higher than the P226 on Gunbroker, and a lot more people are buying the P229.
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>>28537879
>>28537931
>Legion series are too much pizazz and flash for my taste.
I'm with you on that. I was hoping when the new 225's came out they would be like the old, or at least take the old mags. Part of the reason I'm kinda out on looking for one or P6. Last question about the 220; anything I should look for other than the obvious signs of abuse when at my LGS/Pawn? The one at mine is asking $550 West German, I think it's split Exter/W. German and has its box.
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>>28538237
The "super exclusive OPERATOR club" aspect is retarded, yeah. That said, the actual changes made to the pistol are exceptional. SIG really nailed the upgrades, which is weird since their special editions usually just have a different finish or some shit.
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>>28538249
Check the frame rails for signs of wear.

http://grayguns.com/guide-to-sig-sauer-pistol-inspection/
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>>28538256
I agree, that trigger guard undercut and the action work make for one sweet pistol
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>>28538249
Check the rails, like really close.

Use this guide: http://grayguns.com/guide-to-sig-sauer-pistol-inspection/

Also, buy some good grease before you go racking the slide, or shoot it. If it has the zipper mags and box $550 sounds pretty good.
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>>28538309
Thanks for all the help, anon. Appreciate it.
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>>28538274
woah anon, you beat me to it.
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has anyone seen a review anywhere for the Grayguns Perfection Action Kit? I have yet to see a review
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>>28538337
Also one thing to note, if it is worn out or shows signs of frequent use, you should replace the springs for the decocker, trigger, guide rod and if you're feeling adventerous, perhaps the mainspring or even the entire mainspring assembly. But that's my two cents. Having spare parts is something that should be had for any gun anyways imo

>pic happened on literally the first shot I took on the second time I went shooting this
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>>28538337
No problem /k/ommando. Post some pic's when you pick it up.
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>>28538410
maintenance guide for replacement parts fyi Sig Bros

http://throwinglead.com/index.php?page=cleaning_guide_SIG
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>>28538410
Thanks for the tip, anon. I know SIG has a program where you can send it in, and for $70 for something they'll take the gun apart and go over it, replace shit ect.

>>28538532
Will do.

I'm going to see if I can shoot comp IDPA with it. That would be fun instead of using my G26.
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>>28538580
I haven't used mine in competition yet, but I imagine it would perform fine. I have been using my USP the last couple of years.
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>>28538684
>USP
Anon, you have a nice collection of firearms.

How you liking competition? I'm somewhat new to guns/shooting and it seems like a good bit of fun at the same time I can improve my CCW skills.
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>>28538705
I have a couple of them actually :)

I haven't been doing IDPA but my local range does steel challenge, and bowling pin shoots. I have been doing really really well. I will be buying a USP Expert this summer.
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>>28538738
>dat bi-tone USP
Very nice! Keep the collection going.
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>>28538738
>USP
>fullsize
>9mm
>stainless

This is my fetish
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>>28538778
I really need some Dan Wesson in my life as well.
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>>28538806
>Dan Wesson
Haha your pockets are deeper than mine. ATM I'm Glock/used SIG tier.
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>>28539025
Work hard anon, and don't take shit from anyone. Also it goes without saying that guns are awesome and fun toys, but make sure they don't become your only focus with your money. Setup a Roth IRA if you haven't already.
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>>28533590
Do it faggot you won't regret it.
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>>28534458
It doesn't have the Greyguns improved IRAT trigger. That kit ALONE cost $325.
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>>28537699
I fucking love that slide variation
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>>28539838
The Legion only has the trigger bar from that kit, besides that it's just a polished SRT kit.
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>>28541940
Grayguns doesn't make a trigger bar
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>>28542037
My bad the P229 has the "Grayguns Intermediate Reach Adjustable Trigger" and the P226 has the "Master Shop Flat Trigger".

Neither product listing mentions anything about having anything in the action from Gray Guns P series kit.
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>>28542084
>the P226 has the "Master Shop Flat Trigger
well that isn't true either. only the SAO P226 Legion has the flat trigger.

the Legion series comes with the GGI PSAIT trigger, the action has been smoothed out at the Sig Sauer custom shop, not by GGI action parts
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>>28536346
>not the p250
faggot
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>>28542148
I know and it upsets me. It was the one thing I assumed was in the gun when Colion and the others started teasing the guns. I was so hyped but it doesn't have the P-PAK kit so it's not nearly as attractive.

I'm gonna get some Legion grips for my MK-25 though.
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>>28542220
>I'm gonna get some Legion grips for my MK-25 though.

That's cheating
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>>28542228
Not to pass it off as legion, the grips are just aesthetic as FUCK.

And look super comfy.
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>>28542234
Honestly, I'd consider it too if it didn't have the little legion coins on them.
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What do ya'll think about p320? My dad is gonna buy his first gun this weekend. Cost isnt an issue for the old man.
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>>28542291
It's nice, but I prefer hammers and DA/SA. Strikers are fine and I'll never get rid of my Glock 19, but I've sold the rest of my striker guns and keep going back to DA/SA.

If you prefer Strikers, it's great. The PPQ'S grip was too small for me even with the large backstrap, I don't care about the VP9 or the M&P, so if I wanted another striker it'd be between another Glock, The FNS, or the P320.
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>>28542291
I agree with >>28542305
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>>28543129
DA/SA revolvers included
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>>28542305
I have a feeling I will be like this. The glock 19 is the only striker fired gun that gives me an uncontrollable urge to go out and buy one.
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>>28542305
>>28543129
>>28543150

So P226? Is it modular like the P320 (could he like change the caliber if he wants something bigger down the road)?
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>>28543246
There's really nothing worth noting for changing calibers on p22x's, it's mostly just .357sig/40s&w swapping but who the fuck buys a sig in .40

Get your dad to try out a 22x like a 226,228 or 229 and a p320. They're all great guns, just a matter of hand size and personal preference
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>>28543246
I mean if you bought it in .40 or .357 you could have 3 different caliber conversion barrels...

But no, it's not really modular like the P250 or P320.
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>>28535541
>confirmed NAVY Seal vs some faggot on an anonymous board dedicated to Chink commie cartoons
Yea fuck off you have no idea what you are talking about.
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>>28543329
Actually you know what? Fuck it, I am going to tell all of the Sig nuthuggers this right now:

Glocks > CZ/SW > HK >>> Sigs - this is if you were to take NAVY Seals seriously FACT there is no sidearm that will perform better than Glocks, perod.

A fucking anchor? Come one!
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>>28543354
The butthurt of Sig haters is so strong it's palpable.

I love my Glock 19, but you're a douche.
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>>28543272

Well, the gun he really wants is a Glock. And, I already own one. So, I'd probably just sell him mine, and find a used sig in that case.

But, I think P320/250 is what he'd end up liking if he went Sig.

Last question, do you think its a good idea to get someone their first gun, with no safety or hammer (both the Glock and P320, have this issue). I've read they're making whats called the p320 MHS edition, which will have a thumb safety, but I cant seem to find one for sale anywhere online. Is this only available to the military, or could an FFL order one for me?

Thanks in advance, senpai
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>>28543387
I don't even hate Sig, they have a good business selling snake oil. I am just laughing at idiots paying $1000 for a fucking Anchor or $1400 a fucking challenge coin. These people are literally too retarded to own guns.
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>>28543430
>paying $1000 for a fucking Anchor or $1400 a fucking challenge coin.
nobody ever in the history of Sig customers bought a Sig for the anchor or the coin.
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>>28543430
Sure, the anchor is definitely something I don't quite get but you also get night sights, a nicer finish and coated internals, right? Seems like it's worth the $100-200 more that you'd typically pay if all of that is important to you or you have the money.

I think the whole legion thing is pretty gay to be honest, but I think Sig would get a lot more respect just advertising it as a custom shop gun rather than this elite club status thing.
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>>28543460
lol except for the idiots posting theirs in this thread? Are you fucking blind?
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>>28543398
I think DA/SA is the perfect platform for newguns
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>>28543460
I bought the MK-25 for the Anchor, the NAVY model has the Anchor as well but doesn't have 1913 railz or the sticker.

Plus it's aesthetic, and is there really any other reason to spend over $1000 on a gun besides aesthetic?
You shoot people with Glocks and let them stay locked away in an evidence locker, you're actually proud of a Sig/HK.
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>>28543476
>emblems
>I think Abarth's are gay because of that try hard emblem.
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>>28543506
I stand corrected, and against all odds my opinion of you has slipped even lower.
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>>28543398
The only handguns that need a manual safety imo and I can probably speak for most people is a SAO gun like a 1911. There's absolutely no reason to get a manual safety on a gun such as a glock or any striker fired handgun for that matter.

Just get a normal p320 for him, he will be fine. If he's carrying it, the only two things will ever stop an nd and that's good trigger discipline and a good quality holster
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