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Is it because the combine the sheer engineering genius of the Germans with the practicality of the Soviets and the style of the Italians?

Frankly, the Vz-58 is the best rifle ever made by any metric and you would only argue against it because your such a slavaboo or nato dick sucker
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Its a pretty good rifle, but it lacks development and aftermarket support. If it had came on the scene with the AR and AK, it would be a definite competitor.
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>>28456265
I agree 100% with the aftermarket, we are hurting on that. All that shit is way to expensive and trying to emulate the AR market. Just running the numbers though, it is the best rifle ever made.
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While I love my vz to death and I've put about 11,000 rounds through it over the past decade, I wouldn't call it the best rifle ever made by any metric.
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>>28456297
My VZ is my baby I've put more rounds through her than any other two firearms I own combined, that being said I still would rather have an AR.

If any other VZ fags are interested I've successfully shortened the reset and would be willing to share. after 1500 rounds and a fuckton of dry fire I have not had a single malfunction.
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>>28456297
>>28456458
captcha ate me pic.
>>28456361
Are you me?
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>>28456361
Buddy Guy, I've slanged any 7.62x39 my cheap ass hand can get for my Vz and have yet to have a single malfunction. It has a higher rate of fire per minute and hold the bolt back on empty mags. There's a reason the USSR was so pissed that Czechs managed to make a better, more reliable weapon than the AK-47. I have an East German AK-47 and it's as picky as a white girl from Koeln getting enriched.
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>>28456481
Why would higher ROF desirable in an assault rifle?
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>>28456361
Please share reset magics
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>>28456509
Whoops wrong anon, meant this one
>>28456458
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>>28456508
When I can just pull the trigger and get a shot, it matters. Also, I could put fucking grade A fancy maple through my Vz and still merk all the ex-11b's in NH.
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>>28456481
>I've slanged any 7.62x39 my cheap ass hand can get for my Vz and have yet to have a single malfunction
As have I, as I originally stated. I've beat mine to hell and back innamountains over the years and the only problems I've ever EVER had with it is the occasional shit round (most often Tula) but other than that the gun has been flawless for eight years now

>It has a higher rate of fire per minute
So? Why does this matter? Both are relatively controllable in FA fire while the vz gets hot much quicker. This isn't even a valid point when talking about civilian ownership.

>hold the bolt back on empty mags
This is cool and I much prefer this over my AKs but it isn't something that I'm gonna fuss over. If it really bothered me BHO mags exist for AKs and will still be cheaper than normal old vz mags.

>There's a reason the USSR was so pissed
Give me a source that they were pissed. The Czechs have a long, long history of being fantastic gun designers and the Soviets were simply OK with letting them do what they do as long as they adopted the same standardized round which was their main concern.
>make a better, more reliable weapon than the AK-47
Give me another source, they're both about as reliable as they can be

>I have an East German AK-47 and it's as picky as a white girl from Koeln getting enriched
Just as there are millions and millions of gun owners with AKs that will eat whatever whenever. I've had my Norinco AK since I learned to shoot on it when I was like 11 and it's been flawless for almost 18 years and God knows how many rounds.

I'd argue (ignoring aftermarket and cost) that the vz.58 in my opinion is the best rifle in 7.62x39 out there, but I still do not think it's DA BES GUN EBR MADE
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>>28456458
I would like to hear more.
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Not my pic, I don't really want to pull mine apart right now. The area marked in red is a nub on the side of your trigger bar. When the striker reciprocates it hits the spot marked in orange knocking the red out from its notch. The reset is you letting the trigger forward until the red nub can lock back in, allowing the striker to move.
I trimmed the front of this red part so it traveled less till it reached its notch.
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>>28456825
Well that makes sense. Thanks anon, I'll have to try this.
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>>28456687
Friend, that's the most fair analysis I've seen. I commend your analysis. I still think it's the best rifle but you make very valid points.
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My actual trigger bar. Not the prettiest file job but I don't have any quick blue to re finish it right now.
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>>28456087
It's my favorite and best(for my uses) rifle I've ever held.
Two complaints though, mag release too hard to get at with gloves, and they should have used a two screw system to hold the stocks to the receiver.
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>>28457227

Fuck you. You made the thread. Post in it, faggot.
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>>28457280
Ta Da
http://dlaskarms.com/products/vz-58-cz858-extended-magazine-release
>>28457301
>No i'am the one with the tacticooled VZ
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>>28457415
I'm a purist, so it's a no-go. I know they exist.
It's not that big of deal anyway, just could be easier. Same with working a little blue loctite magic with the stock screw.
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>>28457301
I don't see why you would respond that way to him, doesn't make any sense.
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>>28456087
>bastard hybrid of SKS/AK
> all the complexity of an SKS
> none of the reliability of an AK

what exactly is good about this snowflake?
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>>28457415
Kill yourself
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>>28457462
>what is complex about the sks?
>My VZ have proven to be ultra reliable.
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>>28457511
Yeah? ever had to replace any FCG parts?

the VZ.58 is the FNC of the comm bloc.
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>>28457533
i'am the anon who shorted his reset. yeah E clips are a pain in the ass, but the trigger system is not complicated at all.
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>>28457533
>FCG
>complex

it's literally as easy to fix as an AR
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>>28457462
no other gun comes with as many free ghosts
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Here's my tacticool VZ, I enjoy it.
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>>28456687
>If it really bothered me BHO mags exist for AKs and will still be cheaper than normal old vz mags.
The only bad thing with those is you can't use strippers. I find it so handy to carry strippers vs mags.
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>>28457612
My rifle has eaten two of those Bushnells. The first ones stopped holding zero and the objective lenses fell out of the second.
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>>28457462
I think the vz is easier to field strip and clean than either, especially the sks. Just use the BHO and you can clean the bolt face and get into the gas system in a few seconds. Anything behind the bolt face is optional, but still very easy to get to.
Both the ak and vz are pretty quick to open up and get cleaning on, but I think the vz has the edge, and the sks has that damn pin under the rear sights that'll try to fly off into oblivion. That's the one thing that makes me hate cleaning it in addition to it's weird shaped gas tube innards.
I just wish there'd been more variety when it comes to vz rifles, as it stands, aks are FAR more fun to collect.
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The vz looks like what dumb/super-poor Somali parents buy their kids when they ask for an AK.

Nothing against it. It just looks like the AK's GoBlocks, doesn't it?
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>>28457795
I have to admit, the looks repulsed me a bit when I got mine about 5 years ago. It grew on me quickly.
But I couldn't ignore the fact that all the other guns in the shop felt very meh after holding it with the glorious fixed stock.
I kept going back and holding it between other guns. I had to eventually walk out with it, even though I had no desire to drop those kind of bucks that day.
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I personally don't like the way the VZ looks. It's buttstock reminds me of a whale's tail, and it lacks the lines of an AK. I'm sure it's a good rifle, but I'm really not into its appearance.
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>>28456087

>special snowflake mags

nah, I'll pass
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>>28457913
that argument is stupid, always has been
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>>28456087
I like my mediocre American clone.
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>>28457913
Lighter, stronger and very reliable. They are a little bulky I admit.
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>>28457934
As someone who owns a legit vz, I was very pleased with the vz2008.
The fit and finish is lacking a bit, pins were a lot tougher to get out with bare fingers, but it was a great shooter after removing that stupid slant brake.
>>28457945
>stronger
no, they're not, but that's why they weigh literally half
but I'm not running my mags over with a vehicle or anything like that, so who cares
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>>28456481
> I have an East German AK-47 and it's as picky as a white girl from Koeln getting enriched.

How do you have feeding problems? I've got many AKs and never any issues.
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>>28457957
They weigh half because they are aluminum. The design is inherently stronger though, note the reinforced spine and ridges. The only disadvantage is you can't cram three in a single pouch like an AK mag.
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>>28456476
I have the same setup.
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I actually have more fun with my 2008 than I do with my K31.
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someone give me the rundown on the century 2008? Is it basically vz parts kits with century recievers? Are they the poorfag way of getting a vz? Are they shit?
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>>28458484
They hold up surprisingly well when compared to an actual vz, and they hold up ASTOUNDINGLY well for a Century firearm.

Basically, Century imports them and assembles them with US made barrels and receivers. The rest of the gun, including the firing mechanism is pure Czechnology.
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>>28458484
great gun if you don't have the trigger reset gremlin which will you rapidly make you not trust your gun. I had a stovepipe once on mine but other than that it did well... minus the trigger not resetting once every 30-60 rounds.

That was Century warranty work. Also grab some loctite for the folding stock screw for the receiver because it will always wobble out.
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Mind yourself on century's provided gas piston. They mushroom pretty bad. I had to file mine to get it to fit back in the gas block retention well. It was my first semi auto and I thought they all had that issue, boy was I happy the AK hasn't shown that problem.
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>>28456524
>NH
We have like, six infantry vets in the whole state.
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I have a question, should I smooth down the top of the feed ramp? The top edge scrapes my ammo, and makes loading a bitch.
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>>28458572
Wow, glad I ordered the Cz chrome piston.
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>>28456087
Someone post the videos of the twink with all the double feeds.
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>>28456087
>muh vz a best
All you fags will be on suicide watch when inrange posts their vz video soon
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>think its ugly
>watch based Strike Back
>suddenly have a wild boner for it
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>>28457957
I've never had any problems with pins before.
I love my vz2008 to death
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>>28460959
>I've never had any problems with pins before.
I guess it's not the case on every rifle then.
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>>28461476
Well, we all know Century isn't the best about quality control.
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>>28456087
OP! You have to be a super guy !

102% agree with you

> lovingly Czechfag ;3
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