Early reports of possible nuclear test in North Korea. Early

KJU probably just slipped in the shower or something.

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>>28443074
Chinese now reporting 0 Km depth. Probable test.

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> mfw they just Belka'd their land to not get bullied online anymore

Any guess on the possible yield Oppenheimer?

>>28443074
Should have wiped these little niggers out immediately after the first test in 2006.

>>28443074
Didn't they just test some missiles recently too? Does this mean they can finally feed their people?

>>28443142
Too early.

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How are Best Korea's ICBMs coming along these days?

>>28443074
I'm 99% sure it was a test.

>>28443149
>Does this mean they can finally feed their people?

you have enough uranium for:

>lights in your only city
>bombs

choose wisely

>>28443170
Their reliability is....questionable. Accuracy measured in Hemispheres.

I'm still not clear on if they've achieved miniaturization. Some say yes, others no.

>>28443184
What makes you say that? Specifically, what identifiers are pointing to this being a test?

>>28443074
>tfw no gun ownership in Korea
>tfw will never have a bunch of Koreans shooting Norks from their roof.
Sad, my grandma's apartment was on the 18th floor in Suji and it would have been a rad sniping spot. Too bad she moved out after my grandpa died.

>>28443205
unfortunately, that's probably all the more accurate they want them to be

>>28443212
Lack of S-Waves in the seismogram.

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>>28443190
I mean with a somewhat success program you would think Kimmy would feed his people and create an army of ubermensch.

>>28443209
>I'm still not clear on if they've achieved miniaturization. Some say yes, others no.

How retarded do you need to be to not be able to build a decent nuke in this day and age?

I thought asians were supposed to be good at STEM.

your threads are always the best oppenheimer, I hope you don't leave anytime soon

Ballpark figure, >10 Kt.
Probably another test of the same device from 2013.

>>28443235
Fun fact, IQ is highly contingent on the availability of food in the womb and in the first 5 years of life.

>>28443261
Why the fuck would they do that?

I mean, Seth Efrica and Israel have (unless the Vela incident was what we think it was) tested any of their warheads.

Why would they be testing a design they already tested?

>>28443264
Then why does the US score lower than so many countries with less obese children?

>>28443264
bullshit, I would be genius level if that was true
Those random jews before WW2 couldn't had more food available than I did

>>28443283
Trying to miniaturize a boosted fission device.
For either a missile RV, or as a primary for a thermonuclear weapon.

>>28443291
The answer rhymes with triggers

>>28443300
>>28443291
>>28443264
>>28443235
Shut the fuck up.

>>28443291
He said food, not corn syrup and chemicals.

>>28443308
Chiggers? Nasty little buggers.

>>28443291
Because neonatal vitamin access isn't the same thing as fat 8 year olds.

Also, riggers.

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>>28443291
Directly proportional to population 'diversity'

>>28443190
Kim, my son.

>>28443323
>california is on par with mississippi, alabama and louisiana

this warms my heart

DPRK Government will have a special announcement at 11pm EST.

>>28443235
>I thought asians were supposed to be good at STEM.

How fucking stupid are you?

Answer me honestly.

>>28443343
ooh! is there a primary source we can watch it from?

or are we at the mercy of our western media as usual?

>>28443323

>I live in Mississippi

Fuck my life, dude. I'm convinced most the folks around me are fucking stupid shit redneck fuckwads and walking black stereotypes that do no favors for their race.

>>28443343
>DPRK Government will have a special announcement at 11pm EST.

That they can finally say they can now comfortably defeat Imperial Japan?

>>28443363
Probably somewhere, but I don't know right now.

>>28443370
Probably announcing the end of sanitary napkin rationing.

>>28443370
Now there's a fight I want to see.

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>>28443384
>Probably announcing the end of sanitary napkin rationing.

We WW2 now.

>>28443384
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhohteHuyPM

Nort Korea, everything sunny all the time!

>>28443226
Got an image of the seismograph? I'm interested

>>28443235
Building and miniaturizing nukes requires large teams of scientists, engineers, and skilled workers, as well as access to the correct materials (not just fissiles, but the high grade alloys used in processing)

These people need to be educated from a young age, receive enough incentives to make it worth their while (food would probably do it in Best Korea), and have access to necessary facilities/equipment and competent management.

Frankly I'm amazed the Norths programs gone as far as it has.

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>>28443410

>>28443304
What's the probability that their primary reason for doing it is diplomatic reasons? Or internal political ones?

>>28443323
>CA is home to Silicon Valley
>LA brings us down a good 10 points or so
Kill me.

How did you find this so quickly? Also do you think this was done to show off or as an actual test of performance?

>>28443421

The double bang is characteristic of explosive triggered nukes, right?

>>28443414
>Frankly I'm amazed the Norths programs gone as far as it has.

All they are doing is proving that they are as retarded as the rest of the world. There is no reason it should take as long as it has for them to build technology that already exists in mass quantities and has for several decades.

I understand the whole Juche thing about not needing no man because they are independent women, but that doesn't mean not learning from other people.

>>28443426
Probably not the primary reason, but it factors in. the primary reason is the pursuit of deliverable nuclear weapons.

>>28443421
Thank you based Oppenheimer

Oppe confirmed for only good tripfag

>>28443426
>What's the probability that their primary reason for doing it is diplomatic reasons? Or internal political ones?

The Chinese stock market unfreezes a lot of their stocks apparently on friday and it already went down about 7% monday. But I doubt they planned it to coincide with that shit because that would be giving them too much credit.

>>28443440
>How did you find this so quickly?
Someone called me. I was in another thread and thought this might be interesting to do.

> Also do you think this was done to show off or as an actual test of performance?
Actual test of performance, but as with everything in DPRK, there is some political theater involved.

Sound track for this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hrqqld2Aew

>>28443126
if that magnitude is right, then the force imparted to the earth was ~3.4ktons. If this was in a tunnel than the device was sub 5 ktons, if it was a surface blast it would be ~10-20ktons. All this assumes the magnitude was 4.9.

>>28443323
>complain about MUH ILLEGAL DRUG RUNNERS
>Texas is doing better than the debauched shithole of Louisiana and Commifornia
Clearly these illegals are doing something right.

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>>28443443
they hardly have enough resources to run fertilizer plants. what makes you think they can invest meaningfully in developing advanced nuclear weapons when they can hardly keep street lights on in pyongyang?

>>28443444
What do you think is the next step for SK now? There was some talk about making their own but it was kind of shot down from what I remember.

>>28443459
Assuming they just miniaturized a warhead what range do their current missiles offer? Still only california?

>>28443475
Cavity size has an effect as well. Yield is a hard thing to do from seismographs. Thats why there is still debate about the yield of previous tests.
The WC-135 thats about to take off from Kadena soon will have more info about the device in a few hours.

>>28443482
>they hardly have enough resources to run fertilizer plants. what makes you think they can invest meaningfully in developing advanced nuclear weapons when they can hardly keep street lights on in pyongyang?

It isn't really even about resources. I bet a bunch of graduates from MIT could design a better nuclear program with the same resources if they weren't forced to read only Juche approved material.

>>28443492
There's no reason for SK to have nukes. They are under the US nuclear umbrella.

>>28443496
Not even close.

>>28443459

> someone called me

Who pointed the trifoil-shaped spotlight beam at the clouds?

>>28443514
>There's no reason for SK to have nukes. They are under the US nuclear umbrella.

protoss can't nuke nooblar

>>28443492
>What do you think is the next step for SK now?
Same thing as 2013. Cool off relations, express disappointment in the ne're do well cousins...

Nuclear weapons development by South Korea is not very likely.

>>28443496
>Assuming they just miniaturized a warhead
Lets not go crazy.
Too early to tell.
>what range do their current missiles offer? Still only california?
If that.

>>28443540
Hey, have you checked out /his/?

>>28443540

So what's this mean for NK-SK politics? US gonna actually give a shit?

Unrelated, how close is NK to getting a workable nuke?

So how much uranium does NK have? Are they literally going to blow through their entire stockpile testing shitty WW2 era bombs?

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I love this show...

OP, Who is next in line to authorize a nuclear lauch after the vice president?

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>>28443558
>OP, Who is next in line to authorize a nuclear lauch after the vice president?

Yuri

>>28443492
Nuking your extended family living within 100 miles of you isn't exactly a goal many people have.

>>28443549
>Hey, have you checked out /his/?
Should I?
I am worried the /pol/sters will ruin it.

>>28443550
>So what's this mean for NK-SK politics?
Cooling off, harsh glances.

>US gonna actually give a shit?
The press will.

>Unrelated, how close is NK to getting a workable nuke?
I think they have a working one now.

>>28443552
>So how much uranium does NK have?
Hard to say, but they have resources.

>Are they literally going to blow through their entire stockpile testing shitty WW2 era bombs?
Probably not.

>>28443558
Paul Ryan.

>>28443482
Man, any society that stops running the fertilizer factories is pretty badly fucked. That and irrigation are the basis of a modern society.

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>>28443589
>Man, any society that stops running the fertilizer factories is pretty badly fucked. That and irrigation are the basis of a modern society.

>>28443482
>orange smoke

What the fuck are they using to make fertilizer?

>>28443113
Underrated post

>>28443627
Those are probably nitrogen oxides.

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>>28443510
>It isn't really even about resources.
Nah, it pretty much is all about their lack of usable uranium and food.

>>28443589
they've had substantial food shortages starting again around the 2012 floodings. they're still starving over there, not in pyongyang but in the mountainous regions in the northern parts of the country they'll be out scavenging for roots.

>>28443589
see: >>28443638
when I visited their fertilizer plant in hamhung it was nitrogen fertilizer. it didn't seem terribly active.

So that was number 2,055, if you are keeping track at home.

>>28443684
>Nah, it pretty much is all about their lack of usable uranium and food.

No they are literally that fucking stupid. The thing is the rest of the world is also literally that fucking stupid.

>>28443702
Underground test, or above ground, and if the latter, when do you think we will get 80's vhs quality tape of it?

>>28443721
Underground for sure.

> 80's vhs quality tape of it?
From DPRK? You will get an artists rendering and you will like it.

nothing to see here, just the norks' annual dickwaving

>>28443702

Did the japs really test a nuke in wwii?

Who detonated the nuke off South Africa?

>>28443741

What would NK's next step be? What's their endgame with theses tests? They can't hope to match the US or even China for a while

>>28443754
>nothing to see here, just the norks' annual dickwaving

Well at this rate around 2100 they will probably have a functional ICBM nuke.

>>28443763
>Did the japs really test a nuke in wwii?
No.

>Who detonated the nuke off South Africa?
Israel and South Africa joint test.
IMO.

>>28443765
>What would NK's next step be? What's their endgame with theses tests? They can't hope to match the US or even China for a while
>Announce the imminent destruction of the west
>After negotiations, reach agreement to stop/dismantle/dial back something in exchange for food/money/girdles/big macs
>10 Months later resume what you agreed to stop doing
Repeat.

>>28443514
>There's no reason for SK to have nukes. They are under the US nuclear umbrella.

just like ukraine

>>28443800
>>What would NK's next step be? What's their endgame with theses tests? They can't hope to match the US or even China for a while
>>Announce the imminent destruction of the west
>>After negotiations, reach agreement to stop/dismantle/dial back something in exchange for food/money/girdles/big macs
>>10 Months later resume what you agreed to stop doing
>Repeat.

So they're literally blackmailing other nations with (mostly) empty threats and it's working?

>>28443481
Well believe it or not children of illegals actually have some motivation to do good since they work for everything they have, while blacks do not because welfare takes care of them.

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daily reminder that the US is still doing far more damage to our own cities than North Korea ever could

>>28443835
easier to do that every couple of years instead of going to war and ending it all

>>28443852
Go away, NKIDF.

>>28443852
Would absolutely operate in. Why can't there be a nuclear wasteland in real life?

>>28443852
>whites leave town
>pic related happens
Not surprising senpai

>>28443205
to be fair when everyone around you hates you... you don't have to aim to hard to hit an enemy...

>>28443835
They are not empty threats. They do want a nuclear capability, and they are working hard to get it.
In the meantime, they use it as a bargaining chip to elicit concessions from the rest of the planet. They know that the US political atmosphere cultivates a desire for administrations to gain political victories by claiming to reach some sort of agreement with the DPRK regarding nuclear issues.
So the DPRK gets what it wants, (concessions without any good faith commitment to actually stop their program), the US political leaders get what they want (a political foreign policy feather in their cap) and by the time it becomes an issue again the US electorate will have moved on giving the administration the opportunity to score points again with the same cycle.

>>28443820
No, not like Ukraine.

Broadcast from KCTV starting.

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>>28443886
>Would absolutely operate in. Why can't there be a nuclear wasteland in real life?

>>28443947
Stream?

>>28443947
link?

>>28443947
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2Qeov-VUpU&feature=youtu.be

If anyone wants to watch.

>>28443820
If you think Ukraine and SK ate comparable then you're an idiot

>>28443924
Would Trump firebomb NK and defeat their military capability just for shits? I'd vote for a drone army to bomb the shit out of their arsenals.

So....they say it was a thermonuclear test.

I am skeptical. But if they did...holy crap.

>>28443988
Do you know Korean?

>>28444000
I have a translation available.

>>28443988
>So....they say it was a thermonuclear test.
>I am skeptical. But if they did...holy crap.

We 1950s now.

>>28443988
Did they say it was a hydrogen?

Oppenheimer, thank you for being so awesome

Please watch out with getting over excited on this stuff. Don't need you getting doxed again or disappeared.

>>28443713
>such projection

>>28443820
Slavs too busy squatting to move around to have families spread out enough that a political barrier might cause an issue. If by a small chance they some how did have family that was separated by a political barrier, there is enough vodka in their veins to not care.

Koreans on the other hand to have families separated by that line.

>>28444025
Yes.

>>28444029
>Don't need you getting doxed again or disappeared.
I'm being careful.

>>28444040
not for much longer.

They are calling it "An act of self defense."

>>28443988
[FEAR]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jan/06/north-korea-major-announcement-artificial-earthquake-nuclear-test-site-live
here's a live update of the events in english

>>28443988
I'm a noob with nuclear shit, what is the significance in them making hydrogen bomb?

>>28443988
Is there any way to confirm?

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North Korea announced they have successfully developed a hydrogen bomb, one megaton in size.

rip in pussy

>>28444094
H-bombs can get a lot bigger.

>>28444094
in theory they can scale them to much larger yields.

>>28444094
>what is the significance in them making hydrogen bomb?

If they fix their delorean they can go back to the 1950s and rule the world.

>>28444094
If they have a hydrogen bomb it represents a major step forward for their capabilities. Hydrogen bombs are a lot more powerful than other nuclear weapons.

>>28444096
Constant Phoenix will have to report in.

If the yield holds, I'm going with a successful test of a boosted fission primary.
It is in line with their claims of it being hydrogen and miniaturized, as well as explaining the lower yield than you might expect with a hydrogen bomb.

>>28444147
Should we have invaded and dismantled NK while we had the chance? Could we shoot down a nuke before it hits SK?

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invasion of north korea when

>>28443886
well that picture is of Detroit so you could pretty realistically operate there.

>>28443317
Actually, parasite load is often thought to correlate with IQ: http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2010/06/29/rspb.2010.0973.full?sid=f65fe5b5-b8d4-4e62-82ee-60c7bd44e3d3

Thread status:
https://youtu.be/J7vKF0V-A9Y?t=46

>>28444190
>shooting down a nuke before it his SK

Depends on the delivery device but it's doubtful since Seoul is right fucking there near the DMZ.

>>28443968
Thanks Oppen? Any /k/ommandos get a word of that? I'm sure it was all propaganda laden but it still looks interesting. Story right now is about US stocks or something

>>28444190
If anything, they'd probably nuke Japan.

>>28444281
Thought so. Time to build a wall or just nuke their sites first. Claim self-defense and fabricate reports that they were planning to nuke Seoul and we can remove them. Only downside is a refugee crisis except we can't steal educated citizens.

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>>28443074

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>>28443988
>They're saying it's thermonuclear, is it true?
imo no.
They were probably experimenting with Hydrogen in order to make a boosted fission device and are either reporting it as fusion out of error or more likely, for propaganda.
Boosted fission basically means that they put tritium gas inside a a hollow sphere of plutonium, so that when the implosion happens, the tritium will push back and cause more of the plutonium to fissile, generating a bigger boom

>>28444322

Technically were still at war. The only thing stopping us from ending this charade is the guaranteed devastation of worst Korea.

Let the Chinese handle this. Can they?

>>28444363
Yes, I know what boosted fission is. And I agree with you, test of a boosted fission device.

>>28443558
Secretary of Defense

>>28444406
They're probably busy dealing with their currently imploding economy.

>>28444363
Oh shit, I didn't know I was replying to you Oppenheimer. I feel like an idiot, but I correct in my hypothesis that it's disinformation. Seems too low a yield for a Fusion device.

>>28444425
I think he means, who is the successor after the Vice President?

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>>28443968
I'd let her test my nukes

>>28444437
No way its a fusion device. Likely that its a boosted device.

>>28444440
isn't that speaker of the house

>>28444448
I'd bet KJU called dibs

>>28444440
Speak of the house

>>28444448
>she cries out "Kim Jong Un" during sex

>>28444466
Paul Ryan.

>>28444474
Yes. Thats what I replied with.

>>28443126
>Chinese now reporting 0 Km depth.
Ah okay
I was somewhat concerned about the initial report of a 10KM depth, seeing as 12km is the deepest ever drilled to.

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>>28443113

>>28444472
>implying he hasn't hit that already

>watching coverage with sign language interpreter
>being the guy that has to tell a deaf audience how shitty and tense a day the normal people are having

>>28444499
10km is the place holder depth USGS reports automatically.

>"Reaction from China, North Korea’s most important supporter, will be key. After the 2013 nuclear test, China expressed “its firm opposition” and warned North Korea to avoid any actions that could worsen the situation on the Korean peninsula.

>South Korea’s Yonhap news agency said North Korea had not informed China that it was about to conduct the test.

>The Pyongyang bureau of Xinhua, China’s official news agency, is reporting the claims of the “successful” hydrogen bomb test"

China is not happy

>>28444528
That's odd, but good to know, thanks.

>>28444539
Chinese intervention when?

>>28443585
>I am worried the /pol/sters will ruin it.
You might want to hold off for a few months then, /pol/ and leftypol/lit have made it their battleground and adding 'humanties' sure hasn't done it any favors.

>>28444539
>China is not happy
Not much they can do. They don't want to withdraw support and then destabilize the country

>>28444147
is it a safe bet there is a sniffer already in the air?

>>28444352
when I was a kid my buddy and I emptied like 5 boxes of those fuckers and unraveled them in a a piece of newspaper and thew it, sounded like a gunshot. Our parents though there was a gang shooting or something and made us come in.

>>28443585
The only thing that ruins a board is good posters doing nothing. That's why /k/ is still good, better than most boards, even with all the shit posting going on

Emergency National Security meeting has been called in Tokyo and Seoul.

Nothing yet from the White House.

>>28444572
It is probably going to be up in the air from Kadena within the hour.

>>28444586
I'll give it a try, I just get tired of constant "nuclear weapons aren't real" levels of confusion that /pol/ slaters on any halfway decent thread like rancid mayo.

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>>28443578

>>28444615
Are there any resources you would recommend to learn more about the subject beyond general sources like wikipedia? I have a chemistry background, but don't know really anything beyond common knowledge about nuclear weapons.

>>28444568
>China is North Korea's largest trade partner, while North Korea ranked 82nd on the list of China's trade partners (2009 est.) China provides about half of all North Korean imports and received a quarter of its exports.
Absolute KEK, would like to see that happen.

>>28444675
>two spikes
Neat

>>28444663
China wouldn't. They wouldn't want a refugee crisis on their hands. They wouldn't want to worry about the US/ROK moving in to unify the peninsula after the DPRK collapse. They wouldn't want to have to move in to prevent the US/ROK and then have to deal with the mess themselves.

>>28444649
https://www.crcpress.com/Nuclear-Forensic-Analysis-Second-Edition/Moody-Grant-Hutcheon/9781439880616

>>28444615
Obama is too busy wiping his tears from the executive orders press conference. Tomorrow, he might get to this if it doesn't distract him from showing off puppies

>>28443218
Tall buildings are the first to eat arty shells, senpai

>>28444742
if they can be useful during a future occupation they might be spared.

Every nation should be able to have nuclear weapons. It promotes peace. Since having nuclear weapons keeps you from being invaded by a western power.

>>28444714
>link
Appreciated!

>>28444714
What if china just striaght up absorbs NK.

Aka, you are china now, deal with it.

It would be a convenient excuse if they dont make their growth numbers for 2016 (and they wont)

>>28443341
lots of spics there

>>28444675
why do nuclear tests produce the two spike pattern?
Is is uncommon for it to occur in natural events?

>>28444765
don't want to start having a shitstorm over here but giving nukes to some islamic countries right now might be a bad idea..

>>28444765
Such lust

>>28444795
chinks are racist as fuck
no way they'd want to assimilate the norks

>>28443578
Underrated

>>28444795
>What if china just straight up absorbs NK.
It would be largest humanitarian operation outside of Africa, and it would set them back 10 years or more.

>>28444805
It's the lack of S-waves that are the main indicator.

>>28443074
Why doesn't North Korea do atmospheric testing, they didn't sign the ban.

>>28444615
>nuclear weapons aren't real
What?

>>28444795
>Gogurye falling to the Tang, alone
Things that will never happen.
Also, forcefully annexing someone with nuclear capabilities probably not going to be a smooth process.

>>28444714
I know, I'm just dreaming. So how does boosted fission scale on the A-bomb to H-bomb ranking?

>>28444837
Please show us the number of secluded isles/vast expanses of land in NK territory

>>28444837
...because that would most likely result in us invading them or some serious shit. Nuking the atmosphere is not taken lightly anymore..way less then underground or surface tests.

>>28444807
Pakistan has had nuclear weapons for decades. Not a single incident.

>>28444877
They can't just do it anywhere?

>>28444859
It would be fun as fuck to watch China and NK go to war with each other

>>28444795
even in NK was ok with it SK, the japs and the US would throw a fit

>>28444837
Gives your opponents a lot of data on your device and it's construction.
Hard to hide a fizzle.
Fallout is a concern.

>>28444858
Some people over there do not think nuclear weapons are real, even more think that they are real, but that they were used to destroy the WTC, and the majority see every video of an explosion coming out of the middle east and think its Israel nuking people.

>>28444862
Leads to higher kiloton yield, opens door to fusion weapons.

>>28444887
There have been plenty of incidents.

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>>28443741
>You will get an artists rendering and you will like it.
>mfw Kim standing in front of a mushroom cloud giving the vault boy thumbs up with SK and USA on either sides holding up white flags

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>>28444859
>nuclear capabilities
yeah, they probably scrounged up everything they had for this test. i doubt they would have another device ready for atleast 3 years, probably 5.

>>28443578
Jerry!

>>28444906
Has a Paki nuke been used in anger, lost, or given to stateless actors like the Taliban?

>>28443404
Could someone break down the components of this preschool-style for me?

>>28444894
They'd be literally nuking themselves and the contaminationwould spread to their neighbors, since NK is a relatively small country. Not everyone has enough empty space for atmospheric tests. Pretty much just Russia and USA. Everyone else only used secluded isles.

>>28444887
That's because poo in loo has nukes too, they're a natural balance to Pakistan.

>>28444938
UK nuked Australia for their first few.

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>>28444906
>used to destroy the WTC
I never heard this theory before

>>28443852
>niggers
not even once

>>28444911
Probably have 10 existing devices, give or take. Probably don't have many of the boosted primary that was (possibly) tested tonight.


>>28444924
>Has a Paki nuke been used in anger, lost, or given to stateless actors like the Taliban?
Way to keep that bar low enough to trip on.
>Lost
Not permanently. They were found. Eventually.

>>28444952
Google it. Then post it to /pol/
Have fun.


I'm finally heading to bed.
Have a good night, /k/. If the threads still up and I have time I'll check in tomorrow.

Good night.

>>28444952
It does make sense though, only nuclear weapons can melt steel beams.

>>28444951
Is that the origin of the duck-billed platypus?

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>>28444928
specifically these

>>28444966
The USA has lost nuclear bombs. I still don't know if they ever found the one they lost off the coast of Savannah Georgia.

>>28444952
NUCLEAR FUSION CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS!

>>28444924
lets be honest...if it had been a pakistani nuke test...india would have already bombed them.

Neat fact: look at the timing. It's right on the hour.

(NK time is something:30 ahead of UTC)

We actually discovered a bunch of soviet secret tests a while ago by looking closely at earthquakes that happened exactly on the hour

Humans are funny that way - we sure do love whole numbers

Best Korea confirmed for 1950s superpower. The final box has been ticked.

>>28444966
>Google it. Then post it to /pol/

Thank you, Oppy - I feel stupider

>>28444982
Difference is the US is 100% sure no one has that lost nuclear weapon.

Pakistan had no idea on Earth what had happened.

But sure, it's the exact same thing.

>>28445002
it's nice and easy for the record books, as well as searching for the data later on.

>>28444993
The Taliban moved to Pakistan. Where they are not only tolerated, they have sympathizers in the government.

I'm amazed that Pakistan hasn't given the Taliban a nuke yet.

>>28443956
What is the likelihood that there is actually something of value left in Detroit? Gold, gems, weapons, technology... could it actually possibly be worth it to go S.T.A.L.K.E.R. mode and just scavenge shit from the ruins? Isn't much of Detroit totally abandoned?

>>28444970
Nope, aborigines

>>28445036
The Detroit Lions are pretty valuable.

>>28444906
So Oppenheimer, what is the likelihood the Saudis will start pursing the bomb now that tensions between them and Iran are at a big low? afaik they don't have any infrastructure to start on a nuclear program, but they have lots of money, and friends in Pakistan.

>>28444982
The USA has lost numerous nukes, as has Russia. Most lost and never found nukes are buried in mud about 5,000ft deep or more in the Ocean, and will not be recovered due to cost. Also, incredibly unlikely anybody but the Nation that lost it could recover it.

US also nearly nuked itself in the 60's. 2 of 3 failsafes preventing the nuke from detonating failed. One did not, thus the bomb did not detonate.

>>28445036
Might be a bit of copper left in the buildings.

Do you really want to go into detroit to get it though?

>>28445002
>advanced enough to create highly devastating weapons and shit amongst the stars
>still terrified of misreading an analog clock beyond the hour, at best quarter hours.
Fuck year, humanity.

>>28445054
>WASHINGTON: Amid mounting tension between Saudi Arabia and Iran over execution of a prominent Shiite cleric, a top US Senator has expressed concern that Riyadh could purchase nuclear weapons from Pakistan thus further destabilise the Middle East.

>"Saudi has good relationships with Pakistan. They could just buy a weapon and again further destabilise the Middle East," Senator Ron Johnson told a television channel in an interview.


http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/50459002.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

>>28445063
>scavenge detroit
>get attacked by feral homelessman
>shoot in self-defence
>I waz just splorin' officer. I found this homeless man with all these coppa pipes by him. He cum at me wif a knife.
>Justifiable homicide
>Go back and sell copper
>rinse and repeat

>>28445076
How the fuck will they afford a nuke? The kingdom is fucked due to oil prices in the gutter.

>>28445054
Saudi & Iran have closed embassies and shit, tensions are actually pretty high right now.

>>28445061
>unlikely anybody but the Nation that lost it could recover it.
Also the fact that if you have the tech to recover it intact and restore it, you have the tech to just build one yourself.

>>28445089
Take a very small part of their enormous military budget and buy a few.

>>28445089
They have a large cash reserve that hasn't run dry yet.

Do you think this is in response to China slowing in growth and possibly shortening aid to the norks Oppen? If so, Lil Kim just drank the /pol/-aide.

>>28445088
>getting caught for murder in detroit
pffffffffffffffffff

>>28445076
>>28445089
>>28445110
>>28445113
Unless of course they already bought them when they bought the ballistic missiles from China.

>>28444982
That one in Georgia was found last year wasn't is? Some couple was scuba diving and found it. They nearly shit themselves.

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/georgia-amateur-divers-find-long-lost-nuclear-warhead/

>>28445054
>So Oppenheimer, what is the likelihood the Saudis will start pursing the bomb now that tensions between them and Iran are at a big low?

Who do you think funded the Pakistani program in the first place?

Saudis did it in exchange for Pakistan 'holding' the nukes for them. SA can have Nukes whenever they feel like it.

>>28445088
>Victim was clearly shot in the knee and then bayonetted 17 times with the rusty nugget you have over your shoulder

>>28445137
Could you answer these?
>>28444977
>>28444928

>>28445089
>The kingdom is fucked due to oil prices in the gutter
who do you think put it there?

>>28445134
>murder
>getting attacked
Nah mate.

Although, there is a 70% chance you'll never be caught if you murder someone in Detroit.

>>28445141
That's a satire website.

>>28445115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8

>>28445137
What's the likelihood of that? If they do decide to pursue the bomb, what will the Israelis do about it? The US? Would they be worse than Pakistan?

>>28444977

Your seeing the system that detonates the shell of explosives simultaneously. This is very important as it compresses the core to critical mass. There are wires, relays, switches and detonators all over that thing.

>>28445177
Just, answer the question. It won't go away and I'm on mobile. All I could do is tell myself how I'm not Zed and atleast I have an escuse, damned app.

>>28445179
The Saudis aren't dumb enough to try a nuclear program.

It'll destroy any western support they have.

>>28443840

From the studies I remember seeing this "good work motivation" starts to trend down pretty fucking quick once you get into the third generation (the original immigrant's grandchildren).

>>28445160
This. Oil glut was a mixture of China slowing in manufacturing, VatnikLand releasing more oil than last 20 years, and the Saudis taking advantage of that and nose-diving prices to force US drilling into submission. Prices should slabolize by September.

>>28445166
>There is a 70% chance you'll never be caught if you murder someone in Detroit.
Exactly. You won't have to explain yourself to anybody. Especially with a can and a good urban camo. So, could it possibly be worth it? Is it possible there's anything left other than copper? I suppose in order to get weapons you would have to fight gangsters, since they're the only ones that really have them, and the natives have looted all the jewelry and bullion by now.

house of saud probably already has at least a few nukes...they have the money.

>>28444977
My guesses
Green: A crane hook
Red: Control boxes. Left controls one layer of explosives, right controls another
Blue: Detonator
Yellow: Relay

>>28443578
OPEN THE SILO'S DAMMIT

>>28443317
Nah I think he meant piggers, a derogatory term for cops

>>28445137
Oppenheimer. Do you think this might be a fizzle?

>>28445152
He's probably not allowed to

so if the north koreans have nukes and actually uses one on someone, will the Chinese still defend them or will even they do something about it?

>>28445220
>Prices should stabilize by September

At or below $50 a barrel. Saudis are out for wildcatter blood and won't rest until they've put the threat down.

oppenheimer went to bed he said.

>>28445152
I know this is going to sound silly, but I am limited to what I can say about design details of specific weapons, except in the most general terms. Even though the information is a Google away, I'm still prohibited from even offering guesses when it comes to design information of specific weapons.
I can speak in general terms, about a notional weapon, however. I could tell you that older implosion type weapons had devices designed to ensure the arrival of the detonation signal arrived at the explosive lenses at the proper timing, but I could not tell you what you had circled in that picture.
Even if it has been in the open for decades.

There are even topics about current nuclear weapons that have entire Wikipedia pages that I would be in trouble even for quoting the guy that mentioned it. Given some people on this site that would love to cause trouble, I'll just suggest that you Google.
Sorry I can't be of more help.

>>28443481
Louisiana is based. You can go fuck yourself.

>>28443852
>purchase blocks of abandoned Detroit
>wall it off
>rent it out for post-apoc themed paintball matches

>>28444906
>/pol/ HAPPENINGS
>chemical plant China catches fire and containers blow
>it was a nuke!
Christ almighty I feel your pain. That board can be entertaining in its own right but they are goddam retarded regarding 90% of anything that isn't a courtroom stream.

>>28445313
I'm checking in from time to time until I fall asleep.

>>28444700
Significance of two spikes?

>>28445353
That has nothing to do with /pol/. The average person is a retard and thinks any huge explosion/mushroom cloud is a nuke.

>>28445381
the kaboom my dear boy. the kaboom. i wonder if this radiation sampling plane will fly over north korea at all...ima guess no.

>>28445440
Does NK have the equipment to shoot down a C130?

>>28445494
Most likely.

>>28445422
The difference is when something like that hits the news around here the only places that jump straight to "muh nukes" regardless of vastly more likely alternatives is /pol/ and /b/.

>>28445440
I'm curious what that would tell us.
We already have seismic confirmation and a governmental info release with other national responses.

>>28445520
Construction, design and yield information

>>28445520
could tell you exactly what its made of. get a good estimate of how powerful and even where it was mined from on earth. Its a special type of plane also..can fly at 40,000 feet. they prolly will just go kinda near the coast though and not over land.

>>28444206
You know. Not even as a warmonger, but in the spirit of preserving some peace, Kim needs to be taken out and NK needs to be put under new administration. Whether it's Chinese or Korean administration I do not care.

>>28445572
>Kim needs to be taken out
Yeah that's a big fucking job m8

OP you're the only trip I don't filter. Keep being cool, comrade.

>>28443190
Kim, my son

>>28445577
we made a movie about it how hard could it be?

>>28445577
It's a big job, but now NK is a rogue state with the capability to create an H bomb. We have the window to act before capability to create becomes deliverable ordinance.

>>28445583
Fuck you dad! I'll do what I want!

>>28445337
Understandable Oppenheimer. Thanks for still volunteering your time to educate the masses. Nondisclosures sound like a bitch.

>>28445089
>oil drops 60%
>produce 60% more

Economy remains the same size. Their GDP is still expanding and is expected to continue in 2016.

They take on debt for similar interest as the US. They have 800 billion dollars in government savings. They have the third largest unexploited oil and gas reserves.
Finally, they can produce a lot more than they do now.
Saudis are going to be around and fuctioning for the next 30 years.

Rev up that Star Wars program.

>>28445115
China slowing isn't China in recession.
The PRC wants NK to remain how it is, or maybe to improve.
The opposite direction leads to 30 million refugees, world war tensions, and nuclear threats.

>>28445608
H bomb
Hold there up there we do not know that.
We also don't know that they haven't already designed or acquired a feasible delivery system.
Assassinating KJU is a very dangerous thing to do, and if you're wrong, and they do have a viable delivery system, and they botch the job, the consequences could literally end the world as we know it.

Are we positive it was actually an H-bomb? If they could fib you know they would.

>>28445608
>lets topple a small dictatorship because they have weapons we dont like
you're the reason we're in such huge debt, and why we're losing good americans over nothing. You are the problem with this country. How's about you pick up a god damn history book? We aren't the world police. If they nuke us, which isn't possible seeing as they do not have any ICBMs, we'll kill them and ww3 will start. If they nuke SK, we'll go in there and kill them. But jesus nigger lord Christ can you stop with this "le puppet government" shit? it doesn't work.

>>28445216
The Pakis aren't dumb enough to start their own program.

It'll destroy any Western support they have.

>>28445285
They will not. Don't expect a Chinese intervention unless America or the Russians get involved.

Mr Kim would be dead within a day if he used a nuke though.

>>28445655
>If they nuke SK, we'll go in there and kill them.
The idea is to stop them from nuking SK or Japan. I think that's a pretty good idea. They're a rogue state in the middle of the industrial heart of the modern world. With nuclear capabilities.

>>28443074
To what extent do you think China is supporting NK? The relationship seems frostier.

If it is indeed frosty, do you think that it contributes to the NK nuclear program?

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>http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/05/asia/north-korea-seismic-event/
>Hydrogen Bomb
Calling bullshit on the fat one and his minion country, they can't even keep the lights on.

>>28445634
Not how it works. If you were producing 100 Bl of oil p/a at $10/Bl and the price went down to $4/bbl you'd need to increase your production to 250 bl of oil p/a to bring in the same revenue.

But in the meantime the price has cratered further due to the excess oil on the market.

You know what the Saudis are shitting themselves about? Iran getting to export oil without sanctions. The Iranians don't rely on it as much as the Saudis, so they can dump the price further and they'll also get $100B in overseas assets to play with once sanctions are lifted.

The Saudis on the other hand are having to keep digging into their cash reserves in order to pay for their shit-show in Yemen, and to keep all the arrogant fuck head princes happy.

Yeah when I got the USGS event alert for this earlier I saw the 5.1 and figured it would be another boring South Sandwich or New Ireland alert.

Then I saw NK and was like...ah fuck here we go again.

>>28445653
It's likely not.

But it's looking like a step closer to a H-bomb.

Opp (I believe) thinks it may be an attempt at a fusion bomb, but it failed.

A similar magnitude to the last one. The difference is tritium seems to have been used to boost a miniaturized warhead to the 2013 test's magnitude.

so whats the latest. that sample plane get there yet or what?

>>28445694
Nuclear capabilities that they'll use if KJU "mysteriously died". Asians are extremely racist. NK hates Japan, Korea, vietnam, and everyone hates them back. There is no feasible way to "replace" KJU. The only way to prevent them from using their nuke is to give them the food rations they want. It's all a scheme to feed their people. NK, along with everyone else, knows that using that nuke will cause their imminent destruction.

>>28445697
Why do you think we invaded Iraq when we *thought Saddam had "WMDs" but now that we *know NK has them we aren't doing shit?
Because we would basically be attacking China.

>>28445655
Until we let Japan start invading people again, we are their police. It's part of their constitution though so good luck, they're just now deciding they can help in peacekeeping or something. If they have a bomb then it is our responsibility to protect Japan, even if it means toppling them. Not that anybody will and not that it wouldn't be incredibly costly and disadvantageous for everybody involved and surrounding. But if you were running it then we'd get nuked before we did anything.

>just because we don't like it
>not because they constantly threaten SK, JP, US and sometimes even CH
>not because it's specifically against UN resolutions that they keep violating

Hope Seoul has a dome over it in your world.

>>28445694
An invasion would almost guarantee three or four attempted nukings of Seoul.

Chinese intervention won't be ruled out if we move first, even if Best Korea nukes Seoul.

>>28445775
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if I woke up tomorrow and the PLA was balls deep into North Korea.

At least it will be cleaner now with the hydrogen bomb if they somehow went full retard.

>>28445706
china effectively had no lights back when they lit their first h-bomb.
this tech is old, gramps, it ain't some cutting edge research. Simply because it's highly potent doesn't mean it takes a lot of smarts to make it - not after the cat's out of the bag.

>>28445697
They are keeping it from falling apart. Food shipments, some trade in basic resources, and labor/tech transfers in the border towns.

The Chinese hate the Norks nuclear program. Pissyongyang is 200 miles from Beijing.
Nork nukes are a Paki's fault. Also credit to the Norks getting the materials needed.

>>28443585
>probably not
>probably
So, what you're saying is... there's still a chance?

>>28445765
We really should let those japs have a military. They're pretty loyal to us, what could possibly go wrong? But Japan should also not invade NK because nukes. The point i'm making is simple, and I dont know why it's so hard to understand
>DONT WASTE RESOURCES AND SOLDIERS ON NORTH KOREA, THEY AREN'T WORTH IT
If they wanted to use their nukes, they would have used them by now. They're more paper tiger than China. How are they going to attack anyone when 50 percent of their people are famished?

>>28445814
Not saying it isn't a shitty idea to invade, I'm actually for nuking the stain off the face of the planet. China doesn't have to deal with immigrants, SK and Japan can stop worrying about retaliation.

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>>28445787
It was the size of a fucking bus, and vaporized an island. Their device barely made a thump on the charts. If it was thermonuclear, it was a failure.

>>28445814
well what the fuck would they have to defend for anyways? nepotism?

>>28445725
I understand the math. I was simplifying.
As long as you can produce enough more oil to make up for the price fall, your economy remains the same size.

Also, most others can't produce more as fast or as cheaply as the Saudis. So them producing more takes more market share than it drops the price.

Finally, Saudi's economy real value is in Saudi Dinars. Not in US dollars. As long as the Dinar falls as much as oil, the economy remains the same real size.

Iran is a small meaningless player in the oil market. Iran in 2016 will produce less than 12 other nations. About 1 million barrels a day, compared to Saudis 13 million.

The Iranians are funding the shitshow in Yemen and actively at war in Syria, Iraq, Palestine, and Lebanon. They are way more cash strapped than the Saudis.

>>28445795
To put in perceptive Iran is about 20 years behind the North Korean nuclear program. NK has some decent technology and scientists to go as far as they have.

https://twitter.com/Reuters soooo....do we panic?

>>28445779
They weren't in 06', 09', 13'. They won't be today when the Norks have 10 nukes.

China has nothing to gain from changing the status quo.

>>28445848
>nuke a chinese ally and expect nothing bad to happen
I-I don't know what to say. Are you trolling me or did you just come to /k/ after you've huffed about 3 buckets worth of paint fumes?
>>28445854
>What would Japan have to defend against? It's not like there's a giant asian country that goes around bullying smaller countries like Taiwan and Tibet. Hmm, why even have a military pact with them? It's not like we're trying to defend them from that rhetorical Asian country!

It's /k/ talent hour tonight.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axe_murder_incident

>>28445900
Not yet. Ten more days.

>>28445876
I disagree. Most experts in June 2015 put the Iranians 6 weeks of "dashing" to a nuclear weapon.

It is the argument used by pro-Iran deal shills. Same for those who disagree.

Considering Iran's larger economy, functioning industry, and more allies, it is only 3-4 years behind the Norks.

>>28445944
Why would China give a shit? NK offers nothing except maybe a distraction. Only worry is that SK would unite and have a border but if it's a wasteland then it's not a problem.

>>28445848
>Nuke Best Korea
>think SK won't react extremely adverse to it
You know a US ambassador got bitch slapped only a few months ago.
>turning Roof Koreans against you

>>28445969
What? The argument I have always heard is that, in the absence of a deal, Iran would continue to progress. With the deal, their nuclear program can be monitored and steps can be taken to reduce their breakout capacity. If the Iranians cheat, then we are no different than before the deal. Ergo, the worst result of the deal is the best result of the previous status quo, so it is better to have the deal than not

>>28445944
>US 1949-1991
>defending Japan from China and not from someone else
>US didn't create a psuedo-alliance with the Chinese and were not trying to befriend China until recently
>China bullying Tibet. Tibet is even "bullyable".
>China bullying Taiwan. The North defeating the South was bullying.

We are defending our interests. We like being number one. China is threatening that position so we happen to align our views with our floating bases right next to East China.
That simple.

>>28446000
Still wondering why 99% of Worst Koreans would be against it. They know Best Korea has no intention of ever making peace. Some lose a couple family members, that's it. Checking those nice quads.

>>28445969
Norks have active nuclear facilities and weapons. Iran is still fucking around with enriching uranium.

>>28445762
Nigger, did you read the post?

>>28446026
>quads

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>>28445986
>why would China give a shit that we nuked their ally?
pic related.
>67% of NK trade is with China
>NK gets wiped off the map
Pic very related
>>28446024
Go home Chicom, don't you have some islands to build?

>>28445741
To me it smells like a fizzle. Fizzle as in someone went oops at the fabrication step.

>>28445986
You think SK can handle 30 million refugees?
What about NK's nukes?
NK has a huge military as well.
Whose filling the vacuum?

There's a reason we invaded Iraq and not the madmen who built and tested a nuke in 2006.

>>28446015
That argument implies that China and Russia will sign off on new sanctions if Iran violates the deal.

>>28446066
They won't all run to SK or the surrounding countries. If anything, the nationalism is so strong in NK that they'll rebuild. Perhaps it's possible that we could Hiroshima them into liking us, but I doubt it'll ever happen.

>>28446026
Koreans, hell most asians, are fucking retarded about far extended families and bloodlines. I've seen a guy get verbally dominated just because his family name came from the line of someone that did a bit of dynastic intrigue centuries ago.

>>28446056
Wow, I'm retarded.

>>28446061
>China is North Korea's largest trade partner, while North Korea ranked 82nd on the list of China's trade partners (2009 est.)
>China loses $3 b-b-BILLION a year, big fucking deal
I'm being serious. China is their ally because it stops them from doing stupid shit. If they disappear then no more stupid shit, so no more need of an ally.

>>28446066
Like I said, nuke it. Nuke it all. No survivors.

>>28446061
You're telling me you were defending Japan from Maoist China and not the Soviets?

Maoist China barely had a boat that could make it to Japan.

Maybe since 2013 that has been what the US has done, but until then China was not a threat.

I'm Japanese by the way.

>>28446066
How is that worst case scenario any worse than the previous status quo?

>>28446083
>they won't run away from nukes, war, and starvation

Guess they are WAY better than "Syrian refugees."

>>28446112
You mean before the 2011 sanctions?

It's not. But having a rich Iran pursuing nukes was what caused the 2011 sanctions.
Why would it be any better now? Wouldn't it be better to keep the status quo 2011-present?

The Iran deal is handing the Northern Middle-East to Iran, Russia, and China on a silver platter.

>>28446096
Ok Ok Ok you're one of those guys that needs it spelled out for you. So I'm China and you're America (god help us). I just nuked Mexico because the Mexican president told me I'm a stupid, smelly gook. So you, in your infinite wisdom, would sit there and watch all the nuclear fallout and destruction happen to your own neighbor? You wouldn't even flinch? Do you even know what a nuke does, much less a modern one?
>>28446120
Yea, I think NK would do much, much better than Syria because Syria is a shithole ran by shit people.

>>28445217
>mfw half-flip
>mfw my filipino grandparents immigrated here legally in the 60's.
>mfw I'm in the third generation
So far I think we've managed to do well, I'm worried about how well I'm going to do as a parent if I decide to have kids though.

>>28446170
>stomping the deadwood bonsai that America has been carefully grooming for nearly two centuries
I for one would love to see this.
>severe weather fluctuations
>entire towns vanishing
>no more male children born
>One in every five Chinese citizen complains about hearing Alice Cooper's No More Mister Nice Guy from within their skulls day and night

>>28446170
>Chinese statistics for 2013 indicate that North Korean exports to China were nearly $3 billion, with imports of about $3.6 billion.
>Mexico/US Trade (in millions)
>TOTAL 2015 198,859 (exports) 247,473.6 (imports)
>over 66 times more important in trade

>According to a 2013 BBC World Service Poll, 4% of South Koreans view North Korea's influence positively, with 90% expressing a negative view.
Nobody in SK would care.

Not to mention the biological diversity and actual functioning civilization down there. However, if they were a hellhole like Best Korea then I'd say sure thing, just use clean nukes.

>>28446372
>Favorable views of North Korea among Chinese people appear to be receding as well. According to a 2014 BBC World Service Poll, 20% of Chinese people view North Korea's influence positively, with 46% expressing a negative view.
Forgot to add China's views, internet went out and I didn't proofread it.

>>28446335
Horrifying, isn't it? Don't you think China'd be pissed off? They'd fire nukes in fear of them being next, even if we told them they wouldn't be.
>>28446372
The point is the Chinks want them around and if we nuke them, they'll nuke us. Thats how MAD works atleast.

>>28446443
I think that the Chinks don't care. I see not a single benefit gained for China by having NK around. But I agree, nuking China would make China nuke us. Fortunately I'm suggesting we nuke NK.

>>28446443
I think China would be more disappointed that land they could have claimed is unusable. China hasn't been anywhere near as invested into manipulating North Korea as the US has been with Mexico.

>>28446472
Well, thankfully you're not anyone important in the government so your opinion means nothing. I'm all for someone's right to be stupid as long as they don't use it to change things.

>>28446500
Well you aren't offering anything to the contrary but no problem.