Gun control to be announced for WA state tomorrow. Anyone know what it could possibly be and how to fight it?
What exactly did you hear about? I need muh freedoms
Fucking shit man.
WA now has two seizure without due process laws, what happened to the incorporation of the bill of rights? What happened to the WA state constitution?
I guess mental illness is already an arrest without due process thing though, so I guess it isn't TOO bad, but only if it requires an involuntary commitment to trigger.
Well, I'll pick up a shitload of standard AR mags while I'm at school in Idaho, and sell them for double the price when I get home this summer
Any other ideas? I'm thinking AR lowers, but faggots won't sell to me because "lol pistol"
Maybe an assembled AR in private sale if I can find someone who doesn't require in state DL
Not only do blue state fascists not take no for an answer, they never take yes for an answer either. They will never stop. This is their full time hobby.
Stockpile. And if you're in a red state, fight. Or this is you in ten years.
Oh fuck off. If someone has the image to get him to fuck off post it.
Guy near me selling "Used GI Steel Magazines w/ Magpul Ranger Plates" Is it worth it or do I do a bulk order of pmags?
They're fucking communists. "Tax and spend" eventually leads to "everyone's money goes into a central pool to be redistributed"
That said I'm glad I go to school in Idaho, I'm gonna buy some standard cap mags and bring them back this summer.
im in Duvall so if some mag cap or shit goes through, I'll post up what I get and see if anyone in the woodinville-Monroe-carnation area is interested.
It's an executive order. The same process as what Obama did today. Inslee is making up rules like he is the King of Washington. I need to pack up my shit and move to Coeur d'alene Idaho. King County is ruining this state
>Politician is acting as king of your state
>Not shooting his ass
Fuck this country.
Tell you what, I get diagnosed with cancer at my Dr. Appointment and I'll do it for your pussy ass.
no firearm. Be ironic and use a lead pipe. or an arrow.
Outdoor emprorium but their stopping sales too. Other than a home based ffl your going to have to go outside king county sorry. Also can i ship ammo to a school dorm? I know how bad of an idea that sounds like but I cant ship it to my parents house.
Stop posting in Washington threads, you crusty fudd son of a whore.
Magazine capacity limits, and state-wide ammo tax, I bet.
>mfw some bitch I work with actively campaigns in Olympia for a "bullet tax."
The elected Rep for your state just started acting like the king of the land, shoot his ass as a warning to those that would follow him.
Or don't and end up like California.
>Pro tip. You won't.
>And in five years you'll be just like California.
>And you'll deserve it.
>tfw you despise Red Staters for their backwards asshole groupthink which restricts the rights of citizens
>tfw Blue Staters are just as bad in a different context
Fuck man, can I just have my universal healthcare, gay marriage, and the repeal of the NFA?
That's exactly what I'm saying.
>Here is a guy
>He's supposed to be a public servant
>But instead he's doing what others tell him to, making you a criminal for something innocent that is currently legal
>He will never stop, and will never feel remorse, it will only get catastrophically worse
>But you can stop him
>If you just shoot him
Since they are trying to surprise everyone it going to be some commiefornia level retardation (stay in your fucking containment containment state you shits) Is a protest getting organized?
It really is in a practical sense. Your governor, however, is an easy target.
You just prefer to be a subject over the risk of fighting back. It's okay, we understand, just admut you'd rather be a slave than die or go to jail. Admit you're his bitch by fear.
Fucking Washington. I fucking hate this place the more I live here.
Good thing I'm on a federal installment and whatever they decide to ban is no worry of mine. Still want to fire bomb Seattle though.
Why are people not able to vote on this gun control measure?
Looks like it will be shit on mental health. Probably like californias if a shrink thinks you are dangerous you can't get a gun. Hopefully it won't be "if a family member thinks your dangerous you lose your rights"
First they ban criminals from having guns. And then what? It's a slippery slope from there to communism, I tell you!!!
Just go do a mass shooting. That'll show those gun-control people!
Exactly! And why stop there? Terrorists should also be allowed to own guns! Enshallah, brother! Allah's will be done!
Stay the fuck away. Almost pastel/mint green, right?
We get Californians but I guess we have enough common sense to keep them quiet
seriously we hate Californians
They kind of suck m8. The OR/WA mix is all that keeps us from being inbred
Supposedly the gen 2s had some (very rare) issues with either dropping out or going to far in, so if I can get gen 3s I will.
Yeah it's the color of mint flavoring syrup.
Those are the bad ones you get if your armorer hates you.
They're okay to visit but from my understanding the overall bro/ho ratio is awful and there's a lot of meth
That makes sense then. Boise is less than half of Idaho and even then we love guns. I seriously had a music teacher hippie girl with pit hair who's dating one of my bros get super excited over my recent purchases, want to go shooting with me (she hurt her foot the night before we went though), and ask for the brass to make crystal necklaces with.
Remember that King County's logo used to be a crown.
We all know the city in WA that is responsible for this bullshit.
One part of me says the only solution is to make blackpowder firearms and distribute them to the homeless.
What the fuck.
First they wanted universal background checks. Then they got it.
Now they want more? Fucking hell man.
The logo always looked like a random jumble of shapes to me, until we had to sit through a week on MLKoon in high school.
Some of the county trucks still use the crown logo, especially once you get outside the shitty urban areas (East of Redmond), so not everyone's a complete cuck
Nope but you are anti-gun, on a fucking board that is practically all about guns. Don't try to act like you are rational either. Every person in support of gun control ignores facts.
So in order to post on /k/, I not only have to own a gun, but I also have to be a cuckservative /pol/tard who wants criminals to mow down my family at a shopping mall because it's "their right"?
Or I'm supposed to support legalized abortion and slavery because "laws don't work"?
And all because I went to a store and bought a gun?
Wow. Just, wow.
well I mean, that's what we're supposed to do right? When the elected representatives don't represent their constituency and they won't fuck off, we're supposed to drag them into the street and show the next puppet in a suit what happens if you're not OUR mouthpiece.
Lived in King County most of my life, it was never great but it was good during the time I lived in. Slowly watched it decay and become useless as I grew up. It really sucks, especially since it controls the whole state basically now.
Perhaps you should choose more reasonable arguments if you don't want people to respond to you like you're a troll or raving idiot.
If only we could bring back tar and feathering...
Tfw not even money to panic buy
What good is my monies from accounting degree if I get culturally enriched before I finish school to get that degree
Guess I'll make due with my 5 or 6 guns I got for now... That doesn't include a semi auto centerfire rifle baka senpai
It's pretty sad considering other counties on the West side do not agree with King's bullshit, and as you know especially eastside of the state hates the shit Seattle makes King do which in turn determines shit for the state. I was hoping an influx of wealth and the love for WA's outdoors would make enough King County voters not pick an idiot Dem for once. I mean you're right King Blindly votes Blue and outside of Seattle I really can't understand why, especially after all these years of bullshit.
>I really can't understand why, especially after all these years of bullshit.
Stefan Molyneux is smart but kinda nuts, but I think he does a good job of explaining this is his youtube videos on r/K selection.
tl;dw: King county is an environment which breeds the type of people who vote Democrat; welfare queens reproduce faster than WASP types.
Once an area reaches critical mass, I don't think there is any turning back. Not for a long time.
>Man, California would be an absolutely based state
You sure about that?
>It's official: Latinos now outnumber whites in California
It's infested with illegals and their offspring.
That's an interesting point. Now why would the legislature be Republican (or at least "Republican enough") if the majority of the population is not?
Fear of political/voter backlash from passing unpopular measures?
No it's actually pretty simple. A great portion of the blue is made up of idealist college kids and hippies who would rather hit the bong and complain on reddit than go out and vote because 'my vote doesn't mean anything'. Meanwhile, we(red) are all going out in force to vote because we are sick of 8 years of waxing socialism.
Sadly that sounds accurate but it's a shame. WA is a beautiful nature rich environment that should be more of a welcome home to the outdoorsman and /k/ like person. I don't want to leave this beautiful and fun state but the politics make me want to every year.
I'm right there with you, and it hurts like a bitch. I love my state
I know what you mean. I think I'll simply practice civil disobedience as long as I can stand it and then move to Idaho or Montana.
Though I'm afraid I'll get a job too good to quit or that I'll buy a piece of property then some horrible piece of legislation will be enacted and I won't be able to leave.
Remember in 2008 when dino rossi won the first two poll counts, but lost the third recount. Then it's all "OK, elections over, dems win". I still don't understand how the hell that happened
Still think we had a shot to have it not pass if some kid didn't shoot up his elementary. I was like really? I mean it was sad sure, but when I heard that it had happen I was like great, now no way these bills will get stopped.
the other guy is right you know.
they can't get done what they want and they've grown impatient, so they're testing the waters with baby steps to see if they can get get away with acting unilaterally.
If there are no immediate, extreme consequences, then the next steps taken will be exponentially bigger, and bigger, and bigger.
this isnt the first time in history this has happened and probably wont be the last, but its the one thats happenig during our tenure and we're either going to put an abrupt violent stop to it, or deal with a problem 10x's worse later.
Open discussion of violence against public officials on a forum already monitored? /k/ isn't that fucking stupid. Take your honeypot elsewhere. 3+5chan is a good start. When we are no longer allowed any say through votes or otherwise then, and only then, is violence justifiable.
>gun rights expanding across many states
>liberals so butt-devasted they have to resort to executive orders easily ignored and overturned to get any inkling of control through
>current state even amended its constitution to forbid enforcement of further gun regulation by state, county and municiple peace officers and proposal in legislature is now criminal
Yeah no, far from it.
I'm going to pretend for second that you are not a member of an alphabet soup agency and instead aproach this as if you are a mid to late teen:
Assassinations of US officials has never had a positive effect for freedom.
They don't instill fear in the next guy in line to capitulate to your desires.
They only draw their guard in close, point and say "look we were right!", and in doing so turning every would-be ally against the gun community as you have now exemplified the very thing they tout us to be.
Restrictions increase because your actions have gained us few friends and many enemies, and what friends we gained will only further drag us down that hole.
Violence only works in a government upheaval and to do that you need the support of the people not just a bunch of nutters running around in camo mumbling about commies and gays. The second amendment exists solely to allow the overthrow of a tyrannical government. Not the killing of an official you don't like, but to overthrow the system. And you need the nation standing behind you not in front of you.
Until we reach tyranny (and despite your feelings we are not there, even the communist states see reform back and forth) the 1st is the go to option for change. Once all hope has been exhausted only then do we reach for the rifle.
Stay there, you're better off doing so. That way you can avoid all the Califucks, Portland and Arizona bitches that are up here shitting up our state. If they weren't here, then most of the shit that got sent through would not have passed. Goddamn political-correctness and the fucking hipsters, god I hate them all.
>the 1st is the go to option for change
I hope you all know he means the first amendment, and this motherfucker is right.
You don't like what some people are saying they want to do, talk your logical point out and win. Lazy cowards force their way.
In Europe we're very fucked with the shitty gun control...
Here in Spain we have a very restrictive and liberticide laws...
I don't give a shit what you are. It's about the principal of being an orderly citizen, not some 'lol look at mee im ohpen cahreey' fucking child. We already have seen enough of those, and they haven't done the community any favors, and neither will you.
>California is full of Hispanic S
>living in our proud white cities
>like San Diego
>and San Francisco
>and Los Angeles
>or near missions, like San Juan Capistrano
How could this have happened?
To be honest, if the immigrant population could vote, they would likely be pro-gun. Which is why they will never ever be allowed to vote, they will just have to settle for liberals voting for them.
Its the best multipurpose rifle and if your going to have one rifle ya might as well get the best. You will always be able to find ammo and it has one of the largest after markets in the firearm world
Doesn't seem to be much unless I'm missing something
So unless I'm retarded, I'm not seeing anything towards magazine, ammo, or firearm restrictions.
Then again I skipped all the WHEREAS shit.
So while shitty, I take it we weren't California-tier neutered?
I got out of it that they are doing "research" on suicide and mental health/firearm deaths. I didn't see any sort of restrictions or new laws. It did say on kiro that he wants to further strengthen background checks, not sure how you can do that
"This will be a data driven approach that helps us identify the people and places most susceptible to Gun crime and suicide"
I don't think it's a registry. After they do "research" and find out it's a bunch of niggers killing each other they will make laws to help "prevent" that, which will only fuck is over
The order is entirely focused on suicide prevention. It's only a "database" to the extent that they intend to compile data on suicide statistics and related information for the purposes of follow-up targeted public health campaigns. It is not a registry in any way, shape, or form, it is not a magazine limit or what have you in any way, shape or form, and it is absolutely not an AWB in any way, shape, or form.
In other words it's about as substantial as Obama's EO, which is to say not at all.
Of course this isn't to say that dangerous legislation isn't looming below the horizon, but I'd say this isn't even as bad as I-594 was.
The biggest concern I have after reading the EO is the first action listed. Researching how to prevent deaths and fatalities from a medical perspective could easily lead to a recommendation to limit ammo types and magazine capacities.
extreme example of a general sentiment, gun guys acting out based on fear that something, no specifics just *something, was going to be announced.
iirc people were trying to organize a protest for the announcement, so protesting a move to help people with mental health issues.
there is something wrong with our community senpai
Just buy. Stripped lower from a lgs
I don't see how a protest could happen outside of a few people. No one knew about the eo. The guy wasn't even from wa and was saying we need to assassinate inslee, people are stupid
To be honest I can honestly see where that fear is coming from, we have enough calicucks and moronic Berniebot types here in King that a California-style AWB did not seem nearly as politically suicidal as it would in other areas.
Just glad nothing came of this, still planning to build my first AR this summer from an 80%
the problem is that there is no honesty to acting out on an unknown announcement, it robs our community of integrity. this is becoming a norm for us and it can only be harmful, it makes us look foolish.
No I am not. It's completely true. The only case you should take someones guns away if they are mentally ill is if they show homicidal/suicidal intent. They are generalizing all with mental illness.
>Fought in Afghanistan and have PTSD, no guns for you
>Firefighter/Cop with PTSD, no guns for you
>Anxiety Disorder, no guns for you
Get it yet? Not all with mental illnesses are going to kill themselves or others. YOU are just as bad as the gun grabbers. Wanting to take away the rights of the many because of the few. I'm a firefighter, and if I ever considered going to a therapist for the shit I've seen, all this law has done is discourage me from doing so. And it will do that to many others.
>if I ever considered going to a therapist for the shit I've seen, all this law has done is discourage me from doing so.
because you are an idiot, like I said. I can't help you with comprehension. please avoid talking to anti's, you are hurting our cause.
You are clearly an idiot. You think a gun loving vet is going to willingly go see a therapist when her first order of business will be to strip him of his guns? He is going to say fuck that and continue living untreated because he is being stigmatized.
We are dealing with people who make up the rules, but they don't play by them. At this rate, I'll have the great misfortune of seeing our rights taken away before I retire. Because most of the U.S. is overpopulated with throngs of the worst people I have ever seen. These sheeple vote for mot of the bad stuff; the rest simply just 'happens' and worst yet is the people who a. don't vote and b. don't fight back.
Jesus christ read a book. Executive orders can't make new laws, only how they are enforced. You can put funding, manpower and efforts toward reinterpreting laws that are already in place, but you can't pass a new law without normal checks and balances.
You faggots deserve this shit. After having Portland exist. After letting Obama use a college shooting to push gun control. After letting Seattle vote in a literal socialist city council. After everything. Cascadia is shit.
>mfw can conceal and carry in Rhode Island and Cascadia fags cant
Washington is shall issue so not sure what your talking about. We have no control over people who decide to shoot up a school and then what obama does afterwards. We have no control over seattle voters as they are all calicucks. Go fuck yourself you dumb ass nigger
Portland is pretty fucking gross. I work in Old Town, and it's nothing but crazy hobos, druggies, the ultra faggots, and super liberal hipsters.
Plus it's a really dirty city.
A-are you cute, senpai?
Your daily reminder as to why one or two blue liberal cities control almost every state in the Union. It's because the Supremes decided in the 60's that checks and balances were OK at the Federal level, but not for you plebs at the state level:
>"...the forces of our national life are not brought to bear on public questions solely in proportion to the weight of numbers. If they were, the 6 million citizens of the Chicago area would hold sway in the Illinois Legislature without consideration of the problems of their 4 million fellows who are scattered in 100 other counties. Under the Court's new decree, California could be dominated by Los Angeles and San Francisco; Michigan by Detroit.."
Which is exactly what has happened. And is also unConstitutional on its face, since all the goddam thing says is that states are supposed to be republics of one sort or another.
Poor rural areas had as many Senators as rich urban ones, just as we have at the national level. That was unfair and a libtard SC got rid of it. So now we have a House and Senate in every state with proportional representation. You know, like if the Federal Senate were merely a smaller version of the House. It's not fair for Montana to have as much power as New York or California. Well, okay, at the Federal level. But not for states.
Read the wiki, you ADS bastard.
Wow, I can't believe I've never heard of Reynolds v. Sims before.
The "one person, one vote" premise makes sense, so I can see why they might have overturned the existing legislative district scheme, but to mandate a new one certainly does seem unconstitutional.
>Justice Potter Stewart also issued a concurring opinion, in which he argued that while many of the schemes of representation before the court in the case were egregiously undemocratic and clearly violative of equal protection, it was not for the Court to provide any guideline beyond general reasonableness for apportionment of districts.
>In dissent, Justice John Marshall Harlan II criticized the Court for ignoring the original intent of the Equal Protection Clause, which he argued did not extend to voting rights. Harlan claimed the Court was imposing its own idea of "good government" on the states, stifling creativity and violating federalism. Harlan further claimed that if Reynolds was correct, then the US Constitution's own provision for two senators from each state would be Constitutionally suspect since the fifty states don't have "substantially equal populations". "One person, one vote" was extended to Congressional (but not Senate) districts in Wesberry v. Sanders (1964).
A lot of people haven't.
The Founders saw a lot of innovation in their lifetimes, from steam ships to primitive breechloaders, but I don't think they could have foreseen a day when half the fucking population would be crammed into a few de facto city-states and run the country by fiat. And of course now they will never give up their power. We are trapped in the tyranny of the majority that it created.