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>>28440634

How the fuck are they even going to enforce this?

>>28440634
Just like drone registration, it isn't about enforcement, but control and growing govt.

>>28440744
>>28440782
This has been the law for years, Obama is just reminding local prosecutors that they can get people on gun dealing and making antis feel good.

Nothing has legally changed for private sales.

Finally someone who actually read the fucking EO.

Dont forget this part

>Quantity and frequency of sales are relevant indicators. There is no specific threshold number of firearms purchased or sold that triggers the licensure requirement. But it is important to note that even a few transactions, when combined with other evidence, can be sufficient to establish that a person is “engaged in the business.” For example, courts have upheld convictions for dealing without a license when as few as two firearms were sold or when only one or two transactions took place, when other factors also were present.

>trusting the government to not come and say "yup, he sold a gun, thats in the business"
>trusting government
>trusting
>government

>>28441560
>law has not changed
>Obama issued a memo reminding people what the law is
>suddenly people are going to get busted for privately selling one gun

>ATF put out OP images to show that selling guns privately is still fine and Obama didn't do anything except cry on TV for background checks because he can't force them on us.

>idiots on the internet still get assblasted over it

>>28441560
That was literally already the law word for word. Don't buy guns with the intent to sell it and you'll be fine, just like everyone who's sold a gun without an FFL in the past 20 years.

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>>28440634
you have to be really naive if you think this is how they intend to enforce it, they just gave carte blanche to any libcuck prosecutor who wants to nail a gun owner for selling A gun without an FFL or background check.

have fun trying to prove your innocence to a the libcuck jury by showing them this infographic.

>>28440782

>people should just be able to fly around helicopters the size of dogs without any training or registration

>>28441791

>people should be able to use powerful machines capable of wire fraud or sending child pornography or digital piracy without any training or registration

>>28441765
>prove innocence
haha

>>28441765
>you have to be really naive if you think this is how they intend to enforce it, they just gave carte blanche to any libcuck prosecutor who wants to nail a gun owner for selling A gun without an FFL or background check.

>just gave

>law has not been changed
>exactly the same standards as we have been going by for years.

>>28441791
I've always seen it like this:
there are laws for endangering the public, flying too close to FAA certified aircraft, airports, restricted areas.
why does a registry need to exist if people who committed the recent drone-crimes got prosecuted?

>>28441765
Lol you don't ever have to prove innocence in an (American) Jury Trial. Whether it'll get there is another matter, because unless you had some pretty damning evidence against you (Bought 500 identical ARs and sold them during a scare) it likely wouldn't make it to trial.

The county/state/whatever prosecutor doesn't get to decide what makes it to court.

>>28441821
our founders never foresaw this

>>28441911
Our founders also never foresaw shitposting on the world wide web, but it still falls under the 1st amendment.

What a wasted 1911 get

>>28441821

and yet we have laws against doing many of those things on the computer.

try better next time ;)

>>28441832
>>28441904
>implying innocent until proven guilty applies to the modern justice system
naive

soooo... what changed?

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Jesus christ, this. /k/ needs to chill the fuck out. Knock off all the god damn threads. Stop bitching as if you're going to get raided for selling a single gun or even a few guns. Literally nothing changed in the law.

>>28442850
Obama got on the news, cried a bit, and told his agencies to work harder

>>28440782
The registry exists so that when you fly your drone over a wildfire to get that sweet photo and it gets sucked into the engine and downs the plane, they know who to go after.

I don't like it, but if people hadn't been stupid, we wouldn't have it.

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>>28442970

>>28442242
Yeah. Doing bad things on the computer is illegal, owning or using a computer outright isn't you fucking imbecile.

>>28441911
That's the great thing about the Constitution. It can apply during any time period. What they had or "foresaw" is irrelevant.

>>28441791
>the size of dogs

is that a standard unit of measurement where you come from?

>>28442850
Nothing

>>28440634
>>28440639

Meh, I can deal with this for now.

It'll go away once obama is out of office. Not worth revolting over yet.

>>28440634
>>28440639

>no black names
Trayvon, Laqueen, Makieasa,...RACISTS

>>28443555
My mother works in an ER.

She once had this nigger bitch get mad because mispronounced her name.

It was written as "La-a," so she assumed it was pronounced "Laa."

Nope. Pronounced :"La-DASH-Ah" apparently.

>>28441474
That's not going to stop the panic. It's too late, the herd is restless. It's good stampede weather.

>>28442242
Yet we don't have laws restricting how many or what kind of computers we can buy. Or limiting accessories because of their perceived scariness.

>>28443967
yeah, nice meme

>>28441791
They arent helicopters, they are quad copters you fucking fascist

>>28441791
>people should just be able to fly around helicopters that weigh half a pound without any training or registration

Oh the horror! Imagine if people had done exactly that for decades prior with no registration! And flew ultralights without a pilots license or registration!

>>28442850
It's purely coincidental, but the CLEO cert for NFA items went away. ATF has been pondering and fine tuning that for like 7 years, now it's going into effect. It's the soft white underbelly of their trustbusting efforts. Obama is making it sound like he made all of this happen over the weekend. Just wait until the word gets out that he made it easier to buy NFA items.

I should start dropping that little tidbit in places like DU.

So what if I just like to try different guns? I buy some carry shoot ect then sell them off to buy more How is that different than selling for a profit so I can buy more guns. s

>>28444321
I suppose your best defense would be to prove you aren't making a profit.

>>28441560
If you don't trust our government you are a terrorist anon. By the people for the people. Government is by definition the will of the people. Why don't you go to Iran if you hate America so much.

>>28441791
yes, yes they should be.

>>28444399
no, not prove he isn't making a profit, prove that he isn't buying guns expressly to turn a profit

>>28443466

kek

Hillary is the next president.

Expect Trump to either drop out and run as an independent, or the establishment GOP sabotages him and he runs as an independent.

The entire purpose of his campaign is to get her elected, and it's going to work.

We have 8 more years of a Democrat president after Obama.

>>28444610
>Trump
>The entire purpose of his campaign is to get her elected, and it's going to work.
Wasn't Trump a democrat not too long ago?

>>28444284
I'm sorry, I have no NFA items, can you elaborate on why this matters?

>>28442242
So, what you're saying is that we need laws against the dangerous use of drones and not the blanket registration and training of drone usage before you're even allowed to use one.

Cool, got it.

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>>28440634
>>28440639
Oh wow, it's fucking nothing, this has been the law for decades now. Just as I've been saying since news of this executive order eventually happening came out, nothing is going to happen because if Obama could have actually done something he would have done it years ago.