>tfw want to pilot a fighter craft and do HUMINT/SOF at the same time >no positions in the military allow me to do this >have tried to come up with a billion reasons to cross train but can't come up with one that would be convincing
>>28434112 Because the Rebellion/Resistance are terrorist organizations. Fighter pilots are their cells; people sitting out in the sticks with a couple of small craft, watching, listening, and waiting for something juicy to come along.
>>28434308 Were any of the prior movies really any better about that sort of thing? The first Death Star attack had X and Y-ings both performing the same roles in the same mission, and the second Death Star attack had X,Y,A, and B-Wings all just flying around shooting shit without any real regard to their roles as fighters or bombers.
What i dont get is that the First Order made the resistance's fleet out to be a major obstacle. I was anticipating an actual fleet. But the movie showed like a dozen x-wings. Was that seriously the fucking fleet the first order, who has a planet sized base of tie fighters and guns, that fucking afraid of?
>>28434144 >Out of any of the retarded shit in any of the star wars movies, this probably the one that's easiest to explain. Lol, this.
If the rebel alliance won the war and overthrew the empire, why are they still considered the "resistance?" They aren't resisting the New Republic, are they? If anyone is the resistance at this point, I'd think it'd be the First Order.
i know its a movie, just wondering if someone with knowledge of the fanfiction facts and stuff can explain how the technology of the laser blasters work? like why does light travel out of a blaster in little sectional bursts, and not one instant continuous beam to the target? are the blasters not light or something?
Take Tibana gas. Agitate the fuck out of it with a laser, then force it through an electromagnetic chamber that packages the ship into a coherent bolt. The weapon deals damage with the heat and force of the bolt's impact.
>>28434710 No. The Republic and the Resistance are seperate. Imagine the Republic is the US in a cold war scenario, and the Resistance is a PMC/Geurilla army that the US is secretly paying to fight battles for them.
The resistance is actually a private military owned by General Leia. Officially they have no connection to the Republic.
>>28435058 No, dude, there's a new republic. It formed after the Empire was defeated in VI. This new republic has been in a cold war with the imperial remnant that turned into the First Order. This is all explicitly stated in supplementary materials.
New Republic: US/Nato Resistance:PMC (Secretly funded by the NR) First Order:SS/Werwolf/ Possibly a splinter group from the actual Empire?
as for OP's questions. Rebel pilots had to double as Commandos/ Special forces for almost as long as the Rebellion has existed. Plus Small one man fighters are capable LRRP shit and hit and run missions. why not make the sure the Pilot is just as deadly on the ground as in the air.
>>28435156 >What is the bolt. Basically a ball/rod of superheated tibana gas. Essentially it's a plasma rifle. No idea on Chewis Crossbow, but I assume it's just a more powerful wookie derivative of a blaster rifle. I.E. Pretzels was same mello mike.
>>28434581 The Rebels couldn't afford dedicated role craft so they focused on multiroles like the X- and Y-Wings. Even their dedicated craft, A-Wings and B-Wings, were capable of acting outside their role.
>>28434326 >>28435098 Sanitation is just his makework assignment. Remember the First Order and the Republic weren't actually at war in the beginning of the movie.
>>28436596 Because it has to be in the same system as the sun to suck it up, but can shoot planets in other systems. Star Destroyers can level a planet, but it is slow, can be stopped by planetary shielding, and puts them in range of planet based weaponry.
>If the Starkiller can suckl out a sun, why does it need to destroy planets? It doesn't need to destroy planets per se, but it affords it the obvious and immense advantage of engaging targets remotely.
If the First Order jumped the base in to a heavily defended system that they wanted to destroy (say, the capital of the New Republic), the local fleet force would be up their asses something fierce. And as we saw in the movie, Starkiller is incapable of withstanding a lightweight starfighter assault, never mind a flotilla of Mon Cal cruisers. On the other hand, from lightyears away, Starkiller can strike with impunity.
Another thing that people who ask this question ignore is that even if you a suck a planet's parent star up, that doesn't kill it right away. It could still easily be a strategic threat, or even evacuate it.
>>28434786 I was confused about that too. I mean shouldn't the Republic be operating from a position of strength in the galaxy now? Why was the First Order allowed to regroup and rebuild after the war in the first place?
>>28436684 The New Republic was politically precarious in the early years as many of the issues that led to the Clone Wars hadn't been resolved, or were exacerbated, by the Empire. After forcibly disarming the remnants of the Empire the New Republic demilitarized and compartmentalized their forces. Some of the information is conflicting as to how powerful the First Order actually is, with some indicating that it's most of the Imperial Remnant with others indicating it's a splinter faction.
The whole idea of the Starkiller is retarded beyond fucking even horizon.
>Fucking asshuge planet with obviously oxygen atmosphere and water weather system >whole equatorial regions became digged out and replaced with some retarded machinery >we just fucked up all climate patterns and change the planet albedo like 30% but it's ok, it's fine, nothing changed, the pine trees are hapilly growing and snow is happily falling from the sky >jump this thing into existing planetary system >that's fine, the stability of the system is just perfect, billions of tons of solid rock added to it have absolutely no efect. >oh, and type of the central star, distance from the central star, axis tilt and rotation period of our Starkiller do not change of course, so climate do not change at all >and new set of tidal forces, caused by our new sun and other celestial bodies in the system do not havy aaaany influence at all >ok, since we are comfortable, lets' destroy our new sun by sucking a mass out of it! >of course drastic change in mass of the sun, as well as the amout on energy received have absolutely no efect neither on Starkiller, nor the stability of the rest of the system. Orbits are the same, the gravitional equilibrium is not changed at all >ok, sun is out, so in other words we just removed the 99% of the mass of the system from said system. >nothing changed! we are not fucking thrown like a rock from our previous orbit into a vast darkness of the space. Our rotation speed do not exceed to the point where centrifugal forces will tear the planet apart. >during sucking out the sun, when we remove outer layers, and therefore exposed the core where nuclear fussion is happeninig, the said core do not fucking blow like a supernova, anihilating everything in something like bilions of miles radius. why? because fucking disney!
All right, I know that it not supposed to be hard SF, but so far they have enough fucking common sense to avoid such a bullshit.
>>28434112 another question is how fucked is the New Republic in episode 8? the First Order just destroyed the seat of government and the Republic fleet, the Resistance spent over half its strength blowing up the Starkiller. Meanwhile the First Order has the resources and manpower to hollow out a planet into a superweapon and not seem to give much of a fuck when it's destroyed. Leading me to believe that in episode 8 the republic will get its shit pushed in hard.
I understand your frustration, especially when comparing this to how the OT felt. But it's been inevitable since JJ came on board that the movie was going to suffer from unintelligible rule-of-cool nonsense.
I don't know if the superlaser system is explained in detail somewhere; but I would speculate that the Death Star used the same gravity well generation technology to manipulate beam pathways that was deployed on Immobilizer 418s.
>>28436957 That would follow the pattern. In 8, the Resistance will suffer a major defeat, our heroes will be separated, and Rey will learn that she comes from a long line of force users. In 9, the group will be reunited, the Resistance will prepare for one final assault to save the galaxy, and Snoke will fall victim to his own hubris, either by the hand of Kylo Ren or some other trusted follower who at the last minute decides to "do the right thing".
>Leading me to believe that in episode 8 the republic will get its shit pushed in hard. That would certainly follow the retread pathway that JJ has laid. They just move straight from lifting the plot of ANH to lifting the plot of ESB.
>>28437007 To be fair, if JJ took the franchise in a completely new direction he'd have been eviscerated by the manchildren that make up star wars' fandom. [spoiler]Fuck i hate that word, makes me feel sick to type[/spoiler]
At the same time, he -did- begin to develop a new plot with Darth Plageis, the Knights of Ren, and Luke in exile, along with bringing in his distinctive spacefuture aesthetic updates to the table. It strikes me as incredibly deliberate how much the movie seemed to be a riff on episode IV, while at the same time changed the direction of the series.
>>28436997 >This may all be true, but it was much more believable in the OT.
So let me get this straight...in a world of space wizards holding magic cut though anything swords, that have moon sized artificial space stations that shoot death beams...your issue is with a planet sized death beam.
>>28436746 >how powerful the First Order actually is, with some indicating that it's most of the Imperial Remnant with others indicating it's a splinter faction. It's supposedly a "Nazis restart in Argentina" scenario but I like to imagine them as North Korea after the fall of the Soviet Union. It's a small-ish group that's got more fanaticism than usable resources, with delusions that they're going to conquer the world. Their stormtroopers are indoctrinated child soldiers whilst Imperial troopers were legit clones or volunteers. Imperial stormtroopers were vacuum hardened and FO troopers lack hazmat protection. They have bigger Star Destroyers that supposedly violate treaties but they have only a handful and mostly use them to scare the neighborhood.
If the rumors are true the only reason Starkiller base works is because it's full of lightsaber crystals.
>>28437179 The Death Star didn't have an exposed ecosystem to worry about, it didn't have to compress the mass of a star inside itself without seeing any increase in gravity, and it couldn't destroy any planet in the galaxy in minutes without moving. Starkiller base is something an 8 year old would come up with for his shitty fanfic.
>>28437371 Basically, though the New Republic can't directly fund the Resistance due to hippies. Leia is bankrolling the operation almost singlehandedly. She even sent someone to Hosnian Prime to convince them to send money before the system got nuked.
>>28437798 Poe's intro seemed to be a very quick thing, as in the First Order is breathing down our necks, you need to get this and go right now. The resistance probably doesn't have secure FTL communications, forcing them to rely on manual, physical delivery.
Well given the way the First Order was talking about the Empire (that they scavenged parts of the map to Luke's location from the Empire's archives), I don't think they're really in control of it. I assume the New Republic inherited at least part of the infrastructure.
>>28435276 There's only a couple of episodes that they go full retard like that. The episodes where they give a good reason for the 58th to be stranded on the ground are fine, like sugerdirt, or the one with Butts.
>>28436541 Only after 93. Before then they were just trained to a higher standard, mostly on navigation and night flying. They also used to carry shit for weapons, and eventually were able to kit out like their regular customers. Source: The Night Stakers, In the Company of Heroes. Both by Mike Durant. They offer an interesting perspective into the 160th SOAR.
Holy shit, did I just make a non shit post on /k/?
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