Combat knife

>>28419981

Combat knives are for fags and autists with some spare money

Most real knife fights are quick and it's all stabbing.

Even "operators" employ the x-treme ancient tacticool technique of stabbing their enemies to death as quick as they can.

You can get a china 5$ dagger that's no longer than 6 inches(I'd say 4 or 5 but whatever) that's a perfectly fine "combat" knife.

Everything else is consumerism.

>>28420219

Well I'd like a knife thats all around useful in the out doors. I figured a combat knife can be used for wood, skinning, etc.

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Trailmaster

>>28420233
Buck reaper

Don't get a knife for combat.

Get a knife that you can use as a tool.

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>>28419981
Get the Marine Raider OP.
This fuckers like 8mm's thick and has a nice clip so you can stab the fuck out of things.
Or just buy like 5 glock knives.

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Is something like this any good? Only rhing that bothers me os the serrated front

>>28420411
This this and this. Add a hatchet too maybe. It will cover all your needs.

>>28420411

This looks nice

I just basically want a quality knife that can go through hell and back. Had some knives before that went to shit.

>>28419981
Check the catalog before you make new threads.

>>28405156

That being said, I agree with:
>>28420411
>Get the Marine Raider

>>28420522

Thats just a general knife thread. This is a specific one for a fixed combat knife.

>>28419981
Buck 119 is great for innawoods, the blade shape makes it very easy to sharpen as well

>>28420542
>Thats just a general knife thread.

No shit, that's why you should've gone there. Just check the catalog in the future, Anon.

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Or, you could spend $500 and get the perfect knife

>>28419981
Actual combat knives make for shitty utility knives. Besides, the benefits of a fighting knife is lost when you're not trained.
Any decently made knife will go pokey pokey, stabby stabby on flesh.

Given your budget, I would look at an ESEE 4/5/6

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>>28420711
>shitty finger grooves
>ridiculous choil
>slab sided/ sculpted scales
2/10 son

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A cheap ripoff of buck 119.
Does everything a buck 119 does but for half the price.
I got mine at Canadian tire for 30 CAD.

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>>28419981
/k/ knows about as much as your local fudd does about knives. I've been frequenting /k/ for almost a decade, which is no credential of significance, I can assure you. I'll school you.

First of all, this is /k/, so I'm going to talk about using a knife as a weapon rather than as a tool. If you want to talk about a knife's use as a tool, go to /out/.

The first thing you need to understand is that your Hollywood "knife fight" in which both/all participants are armed with a knife is a thing of fantasy. This happens so little of the time that it's an irrelevant consideration.

The second thing you need to understand is that /k/ is most interested in knives that are traditional and look pretty rather than knives built to do a job. What you need is a knife built to do a job. You're right to ask about a knife that's bigger; a bigger knife is always better. What you don't need to give a shit about is edge retention; what you DO need to give a shit about is ergonomics, toughness, rust resistance, impact resistance, size, and ease of sharpening.

I'm going to tell you right now, >>28420235 is the best suggestion so far ITT.
I prefer Cold Steel for fighting knives because they're not shy about the intended purpose of their product.

The Trailmaster fits right into your price range and offers everything you'd need. It's the best thing you can afford. I alternatively suggest the Shanghai Shadow or the newer Shanghai Warrior. They're big, they're cheap and they're built for your specific purpose. They also have great sheaths.
Even lower on the price scale is the Tanto Lite. I've owned one for years and beat the shit out of it. It's worth it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE5Dnr1P4Uw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKDxl-ipKwY

While nutnfancy doesn't have much martial arts experience, he knows what he's talking about in these reviews for the most part.

Oh, and don't use a fighter for utility. Its edge should be kept pristine.

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> no A/F knife

buncha noobs. Pictured is a Boker version, made in germany and legittt

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Ontario RAT-7

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>>28419981
Do you want a pure killin' knife? One of these guys or a fairbairn style dagger.

Do you want a big utility knife? Go for a bushcraft knife like an Esee 6.

>>28420233
a combat knife isn't useful for anything outside of a knife fight, and even then there are better alternatives.

If you want to chop wood with a knife, get a kukri
If you want to skin with a knife, get a skinning knife
If you want to filet fish, get a filet knife.

There is no 'general purpose' knife that will do all three of those things. Knives aren't a jack-of-all-trades sort of thing, they have a purpose built into their design.

>>28421241
motherfucker this is /k/, here we talk about weapons, and when we talk about knives we shouldn't shy away from talking about their use as weapons.

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what do you guys think of something like this?

>>28421677
Very popular knife. I don't own one, but I'd like to one day.

>>28421692

full tang and american made. 85$ seems like a good price as well, might go with it.

>>28421677
All of the Beckers are nice knives, but you may have length restrictions to consider if you want to leave the house with the knife. Obviously all that's off if the zambies attack, but otherwise you don't need to give any LE a reason to fuck with you.

You should also look at the Ontario RTAK2. The 1 looks cooler, but Ontario had some trouble with the heat treat so I'd advise getting a new one.

>>28421745

I'm really new when it comes to this kind of stuff, is cro van steel good? compared to stainless steel?

>>28421736
Speaking from lots of experience with blades, American made doesn't mean shit. The best quality production blades tend to come from Taiwan. All American made will do for you most of the time is up the price. However, the BK9, from what I know, looks like a good knife, and it's not as thick as I thought it was (very good thing; a knife is a cutting tool, not a pry bar).

>>28421760
There are many different steels. Usually, plain 1095 is a good steel with a good reputation. Supposedly, the 1095 Cro-van Ka-bar uses is better. I only have experience with plain 1095, and I've been very pleased with it.

>>28421762

Thats interesting, what are some taiwanese brands that are worth looking that?

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>>28421762
>(very good thing; a knife is a cutting tool, not a pry bar)
This. "Overbuilt" knives just look silly.

>>28421785
I have a lot of experience with Taiwanese-produced knives from Cold Steel and Spyderco. Top notch for what you're paying; expect great quality control, fit and finish, and out-of-box sharpness from both companies as well as great customer service.

>>28421793
Not only do they look silly (I think I threw up in my mouth a little bit when I saw that image), they're terrible cutting tools. OP, please don't get a knife like the one anon here posted. A knife should be thin behind the edge.
My favorite blade shape is the full flat ground leaf shape blade Spyderco does. However, for your purposes OP, you should be looking at a big ol' bowie, a hollow ground dagger or tanto.

>>28421134
Why not kill people with the ESEE?

>>28421760
Generally speaking, steel is the last thing to worry about. Most users won't notice much of a difference between decent steels.

The first thing you ought to know is that steels are usually classified as either carbon or stainless. Stainless steels have less carbon and/or include other materials in the steel to help with corrosion resistance, but they can still rust. Carbon steels are pretty much anything else.

There are a multitude of each type of steel. Carbon includes 1075, 1095, 5160, D2, and others. Stainless includes the 440 series (A,B,C) and others. Carbon steel is generally considered better for large blades because stainless is more brittle.

Kabar's 1095CV is good shit, but it's more important that they do a good heat treat.

>>28421862
You totally can!

But that's the point, for "combat knives" you can either focus on it being excellent at shanking a fucker, or you can get one suitable for broad uses.

>>28421883

so the bk9 is a 1095 and the rtak2 is a 5160 I believe. is there muh of a difference in these two?

>>28421819

and yeah that looks ridiculous. I'm liking both the ontario and the ka-bar becker.

>>28421288

we shy away from them because they are not ideal weapons for combat, only idiots end up in knife fights

>>28421943
For a smaller blade (read: knives), 1095 is superior to 5160 in terms of hardness and edge retention.

5160 is superior for larger blades (read: machetes, swords) because it is softer and thus more flexible and resistant to impact. This also means it dulls more easily.

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>>28421862
ESEEs are primarily survival tools; a good survival knife makes a bad fighting knife and vice versa.

>>28421883
This is a good post, and I especially want to point out what this anon said about heat treat. Heat treatment is a little more important than the steel used and has a very direct effect on how the knife will perform and behave.

>>28421949
As I've said before, the "knife fight" is a thing of fantasy. The knife is a backup weapon to compliment one's primary, which should, where legal, be a firearm. Where it isn't legal (which is most everywhere that isn't America), it's something else, and for many people it's a knife.

>>28421943
You would be wise to choose one of those two. I don't have any pics of mine on hand, but I also recommend pic related. They look silly to some but they're the best daggers available for the money, especially with those broad, smatchet-like leaf blades.

I also contend that the GI Tanto is the best value for a fixed blade in the word.

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>>28421994
GI Tanto, pictured.

The sheath is also superb.

>>28421134
that you would suggest the knife in the picture says that youve have 0 martial arts experience. aka mallninja

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>>28419981
your making a bugout bag.


and you want a "combat knife"

congrats on getting a tacticool tool that serves no real purpose in what should be a minimal weight bag.

pic is a combat knife.

it's good for stabbing, and pretty much nothing else.

what you want in your bug out bag should be a knife that has multiple functions, get one with a streaght edge, if it has serrations make sure they are on the back of the blade, not the front, a slight curve and a heavy blade can be useful as well.

a fixed blade is nice, no moving parts and all that, but in your bugout bag you want a knife that has as many functions and is RELIABLE, getting a specialized tool is fucking retarded.

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>>28419981
Sell your car and get pic related

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>>28422064

I got a schrade schf9. I like the blade a lot for survival purposes. I can use it for lots of larger tasks, but I really can't recommend it for people with thinner hands. It's got a very thick grip, and the finger grooves make handling it somewhat clumsy.

>>28422064
Why have a car when you can walk everywhere in $50 jungle boots? Good post

>>28422022
It's a fast, no-thought "grab-n-punch" weapon. It's practical and purpose-built. i.e. you're full of shit.

>>28422022
This post is objectively wrong.

The man who designed that knife has over 40 years of martial arts experience. Push daggers kick ass and it's a good recommendation. The point (if you'll excuse the pun) of a push dagger is that you can put a tremendous amount of force behind the strike without putting in equivalent effort. Where I live they're illegal, and this makes me very sad.

>>28422047
I never liked these. The handles irk me, they're flat ground, the points are fragile, and for what they are, they're expensive. They're glorified shanks rather than refined fighting knives.

As with what everyone in the thread has said, a knife fight never happens and the "winner" is the one who dies on the operating table instead of in the gutter.

A person is able to take dozens (literally dozens) of knife stabs and remain combat functional for the duration of a fight if he isn't stabbed in the vitals.

You typically need 3.5 inches of blade to reach a vital organ to kill a man quickly with a knife. These locations include the brain (through the eyes or nose or temple), severing the spine, the heart, the lungs (to a lesser degree), the kidneys (I read somewhere in the FS Instruction stuff that the intense pain from being stabbed in the kidneys immediately cripples a combatant regardless of adrenaline), or the neck via carotid artery.

Stabbing anywhere else does not guarantee immediate neutralization, which means you yourself are more likely to be stabbed a bunch and die as well.

Even the most trained knife fighters are basically taught to thrust their knife faster than the enemy and kill him before you yourself are injured. There's basically no grappling or blocking involved, because if you're having to block stabs you're probably going to end up stabbed regardless.

Which makes combat knives basically useless. Even operator navy seals say they prefer larger more utility knives than combat knives, because they stab a dude maybe once or twice but they cut rope, wood and open tin cans all the time, and combat knives are only slightly better at stabbing dudes than regular bushcraft/utility fixed blades.

That said, I would recommend an ESEE 4 or 6 (the 5 is an overbuilt tool for helicopter egress), BK9, BK2, BK5, BK7 (any of the medium models), a Benchmade Bushcrafter, a good old Buck 119 or the retired Frontiersman model, or basically any other 4-7 inch full or near-full tang construction fixed blade.

The Ka-Bar was left out because it has a stick tang which doesn't compare to the durability or strength of a true full tang. It's an aged model.

>>28422140
Would you recommend the crkt hissatsu folder/full tang?

>>28422213
>The Ka-Bar was left out because it has a stick tang which doesn't compare to the durability or strength of a true full tang.

Herpaderp

>>28422220
I don't recommend any folder with a liner lock for this purpose. Liner locks, frame locks and the like are great for EDC, but they're not strong enough for this application. The fixed blade, however? Absolutely, though I personally would rather the Hisshou.
One caveat: I don't know much about 440A, and can't tell you whether or not it's a good steel for this application. I generally will recommend a tough steel like 1055, 4116 or AUS8 for this.

>>28422213

the ka bar has a full tang

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>>28422243
I own a Ka-Bar. I also own an ESEE 6, my current go-to survival knife with a full tang construction. I like my Ka-Bar, but pic related is why I don't carry it. I always carry a hatchet, a pocketknife, a multitool and a fixed blade when I camp simply for the utility and redundancy, but if I were in the Rocky's in the winter with only one fixed blade, I wouldn't choose the Ka-Bar.

The thinner tang simply can't support the loads compared to a full-thickness tang. It's simple stress loading mechanics (that and the sharp corners of the transition from the blade to the tang are awful stress concentrators).

>>28422272
Semantics. The tang is thinner than many other full tangs purpose built for survival situations. I (and many others) would consider it stick, others would call it full. Regardless, it's thin, and weaker than other blade designs.

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>>28422334
>I still don't know what full tang means
>But let me tell you why I'm right

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>>28422389
Are you done being wrong?

>>28422408
Wait, next he'll tell us about how the lmf II is full tang

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>>28422389
Don't be a dumb nigger. Based on the most common definition of full tang, yes, the Ka-Bar is a full tang. However, the thickness of said tang is less than the thickness of other comparable knives, and as such, mechanically weaker at the junction between blade and tang. This cannot be argued, it is a mathematical fact. I like my Ka-Bar, I use it often. Would I trust my life to it knowing I have other more suitable alternatives? No.

Based on pic-related, I would classify it as either half-tang (the tang being 1/2 the width of the blade) or encapsulated tang.

Regardless, the terms used to describe something may vary and autists like you can sperg over the definition of the descriptors, but the geometry doesn't lie.

>>28422334

thats not even the same ka bar

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>>28422408

not stick tang. yours maybe is stick, but in that knife the entire handle is the tang.

>>28422453
>Don't be a dumb nigger.

Followed immediately by:
>Based on the most common definition of full tang, yes, the Ka-Bar is a full tang.

So yes, the Kabar is full tang. Glad we agree.

>>28422408
That image is inaccurate.

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>>28422465
Would you mind using your grown-up words and explain what you mean?

That pic is a standard USMC Ka-Bar Fighting/Utility Knife, made of 1095 Cro-Van, with leather spacers removed post-failure.

Here is a different Ka-Bar failing in the same method, with all the furniture included.

>>28422520

look fucking here
>>28422490

its not even remotely like the handle on yours. look at the sides, its full tang.

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>>28422490
Ka-bars are stick tangs with stacked leather washer handles and a pinned pommel.

>>28422514
Yes, the Ka-Bar is a full tang based on a SINGLE INTERPRETATION of the term. Using other interptretations, it is a stick tang.

Let me be that guy and quote myself, in meme font
>Regardless, the terms used to describe something may vary and autists like you can sperg over the definition of the descriptors, but the geometry doesn't lie.

>>28422541

clearly the bk 9 is a fucking different handle fucking look at it

>>28420219
>It's all stabbing
Nigga you retarded.

>>28421134
>says knife, posts a set of buttplugs.


gettaloadofthisfag,jpg

>>28422566
If you think that's a buttplug go on and shove it up your ass.

>>28422534
Those are the Ka-Bar/Becker model knives, and are generally referred to as "Beckers" not "Ka-Bars" to easily differentiate between the older Ka-Bar model and the new joint-production line.

The Beckers are generally considered full tang, or skeletonized/hollow full tang, and are mechanically stronger than the original, famous Ka-Bar model.

>>28422579

pretty sure we were originally talking about the becker since some anon asked about buying them

>>28422334
thats a stick tang you scrub not a full tang

>>28422542
>based on a SINGLE INTERPRETATION of the term

Which is, in your own words, the most common interpretation. At this point it just seems like you're going out of your way to use the wrong terminology and just hiding behind semantics when you get called on it.

>>28422612
its a stick tang

I don't understand why we haven't all moved on from the Ka-bar to better versions of that knife from other companies. The Leatherneck that Cold Steel makes is better in every way, for instance. Better handle, FULL tang that goes all the way through to the machined steel pommel, a better sheath, D2 steel, DLC coating, and it's around the same price.

>>28422621
Yup, and it runs the full length of the handle, which makes it a full tang as well.

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>>28422534

>ids full dang! XDDDD

>>28422592
If you refer to my original post >>28422213

I discussed that I recommended ESEE or Becker, but explained that Ka-Bars are flawed.

Then that dictionary dick suck derailed the thread with semantics.

>>28422607
No shit? That was what I said in >>28422213
Stick tang is one interpretation of the geometry, full tang is another. It is ambiguous because the terms are not discrete, they are flawed and overlap. Read the thread, we have had enough autistic definition sperging over it for you to write a book.

>>28422612
It is the most common interpretation I have run across. I personally don't agree, but this puts me in the minority camp. Secondly, I called it a stick tang in my first post and hence corrected my statement for your peace of mind.

>>28422334
>>28422453
>>28422520
>>28422542
>>28422579

These are my posts. Those who continue to argue stick/full are not me.

I honestly could care less what the proper nomenclature for the tang is, it's weaker than other models and I don't like it. There are better alternatives.

>>28422642
running the length doesnt make it a full tang .being full makes it a full tang,which it isn't.

>>28422624
Because it's iconic. That's the only reason.

In the modern age with modern knife designs, it is inferior. It was a mass-produced fighting/utility knife for WWII and onwards, and it is good for the cost, but it isn't a racehorse performance knife. It's a relatively cheap knife meant to be produced in the thousands every day and given to GIs to open tin cans while shitting in a trench, stab nazis, japs and gooks, cut rope, shave wood, and other tasks, while being cheap.

Nowadays, Ka-Bar can coast on the fame of the knife to sell them for $80 when the construction method is cheaper than competitors.

>>28422656
>I personally don't agree

And you personally are wrong.

>>28422668
>running the length doesnt make it a full tang

That was the exact definition before people who can't into knives conflated slab tang with full tang and muddled it.

>>28422712
Congratulations, you've defended the integrity of a definition on the internet.

In a thread about discussing the advantages and disadvantages of the knives themselves.

Now that we all have gotten our PhD in Knife Tang Nomenclature, can we please stop having this autistic, pointless debate about semantics, and go back to actually talking about knives and their use?

>>28422752
Well if you want to get back on topic I'd like to see you explain why the Kabar's stick tang isn't OK but the 119's is.

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>>28419981

BK 9, mine is modded.

>>28420219
>Most real knife fights are quick and it's all stabbing.
nein.

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>>28422856

More simpler BK 9 of mine.

>>28422514
ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED JESUS ANON

>>28423205
Even the autist I was originally arguing with admitted that the terminology that I use is the most common and his semantic nonsense was entirely based on FEELS.

If you continue this you'll do nothing but put your ass out.

>>28422706
pretty much this

>combat knife
this thread was gonna be shit from the get-go

>>28423375

eat a dick you fuckin cunt

>>28423395
that's the spirit

>>28423395
but.

he's RIGHT.

a having a specialized tool, especially a relatively HEAVY one, in a bugout bag is insane...

>>28423603
Hence my recommendation of the Tanto Lite. Weighs almost nothing and performs way out of proportion to its price.

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>>28420711
That's a funny looking argonne assault

>>28424954

Knuckledusters are gay

Becker BK9 or BK7 you fag

>>28421949
I agree with your statement. Knife fights usually end the same way. One person goes to the hospital, the other is dead or dying.

But discussing blades. A general purpose knife that can skin, chop, whittle, pry, and do other things is, in my opinion, going to be a fixed 5"-6" blade with a decent point and a decent belly. Are there specific blades that can do each job better? Absolutely. But one can do them all well enough if you do your part.

None of this re-curve shit, none of this tanto point shit.

I think the Esee-5 is actually a great example of a simple do-all knife.

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Grabbed this on sale for $65. It's pretty sweet, kind of strange looking but it's grown on me already. I think you can still get them on Amazon for $100 flat.

>>28425544
>Esee-5
With such thick spine and no false edge it should have problems with stab.

>>28422490
What are those in your pic man? The blade in the center intrigues me greatly

>>28425544
This is exactly the kind of ignorant post I was talking about here >>28421047

You motherfuckers watch too many movies.

The tanto point has been bastardized by maker after maker, but the original American tanto point that was first made and spread about by Cold Steel was designed to do a couple of things. The primary is to pierce well while maintaining a strong point. The second thing is to perform a snap cut, which is a quick strike used in some form of martial arts which results in a light cut with most knives and a devastating gash with a tanto point.
It's a design meant for martial artists, which makes sense when you consider that they are Cold Steel's primary target market.

Oh, and I don't know about for fighting, but for utility use, recurves are fucking awesome in my experience...but that's a discussion for /out/, where all discussion of knives for utility purposes should stay.

>>28419981

Becker BK7 or BK9. You are unlikely to ever need a knife to kill. If you ever did these two would do the job.

Real combat knives tend to be thin, have double sided blades or at least a sharpened top swedge. These things make them really bad for something like batoning wood.

In a "bug out" situation you need to be able to survive, the Becker BK7 or BK9 will be far better than any "combat" knife on the market. Also, they are great values and split wood so well.

>>28425753
That's an amazing deal and you should feel good about said purchase.

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>>28425169
Tell that to the guys who fought WWI

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OUTTA MY WAY /K/ SHITS

BEST KOMBAT KNIFE CUMMING THROUGH

https://youtu.be/NGKHSOcG5Lc

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>>28428818

>>28419981
Glock field knife.
It's not like you are gonna use it, might as well get something cheap, light and easily available.

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>>28428818
If you're gonna post "zombie" shit at least show from a knifemaker that focuses on building good shit instead of cheap gimmick blades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itE3_p7Fxwg

>>28419981
What do you fuckbois know about the Terävä Skrama as a survival knife thingy.

>>28429637
I wanna get that small kneif the fuckin Scyllis or whatever its called.

>>28429685
Looks good but never handled one so cant comment on it.
Having two different edge geometries might be useful but for me it feels like something i would just be annoyed by.

A chopper is used for chopping, other knives handle whittling much better.
Besides, i have whittled with a full size kukri with a steep convex grind and it can be done if you really need to for some reason.

>>28429815
I like this post. People underestimate the versatility of big blades.

>>28422140
Handles are designed to be held with a sabre grip. Same kind you would use if you were fencing, which is where a lot of Fairbairns theories on knife fighting came from.

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>>28419981
If you can't win a fight with any old knife, I suggest you stay out of fights.

But as John Wayne would say, "Don't pick a fight, but if you find yourself in one I suggest you make damn sure you win."

>>28428802

Theyre like all dead

>>28431793
There are better handles for that, improved with modern materials, manufacturing techniques and ergonomic science.

I really cant decide between the bk9 or bk7

The 9 is cheaper on amazon but it seems overly huge.

>>28433198
IMO you may as well go for the 9 of you're considering the 7. Same handle, just a bit more blade in a slightly different profile. At the very least you'll have a bigass knife and if you decide that your bigass knife is too big for carry/camping/etc. then you have an excuse to get something more practical.

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>>28419981
OKC RD-6

>>28433198
Just go for the 9. A bigger blade can do more than a smaller blade, usually at a higher price. The fact that you found the 9 at a lower price is a blessing. Do it.

>>28432587
See, the weapons are effective!

>>28425841
>With such thick spine and no false edge it should have problems with stab.

I doubt it.

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>>28428818

>>28420411
>clip

I want a rugged knife with steel and a rubber grip. What's a good value?

>>28438170
Glawk brand glawk

>>28419981
Wow no one has thrown out the Schrade SCHF52 yet?

Excellent all around knife with 1095 steel that other "premium" knife makers will charge you 3 times as much for. Even if you factor in buying a better sheath(I use a Spec-Ops brand Combat Master Knife Sheath, Long) it's still a great value.

I just picked up a Schrade 37
haven't taken inawoods yet
working on stripping off the truck bed liner right now.
But the the sheath sucks, need a new one those.

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Schrade schf 19 I believe. This is the way I look at it. Id rather had a knife I can do a few things with if I have to. Be that split wood,or widdle some shit,or In the Extream off chance you actually Have to use it in self defense you could even use the butt of the knife to bash someone's brains in.

>>28438305
Look at the newer SCHF 51 and 52 models instead. They fixed the gimpy handle design that would fuck your hands up if you tried to chop with them. Lots of vids on youtube about the changes.

>>28438305
Look at the newer SCHF 51 and 52 instead. They fixed the messed up handle design that would tear your hands up if you tried to chop with them. Lots of vids on youtube about them.

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>>28438339
Also have this schf 21.cant beat the price for the level of protection it offers. Easy to conceal As well

http://amzn.com/B00BFI8TOA

Get this and be able to do other shit with it

>>28438305
>widdle

>>28438236
post pics when you get it off

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>>28438676
Got a good amount off, but looks dirty as hell.
Need to take some steel wool to or something.
After that I'm going to blue it.

>>28438773
Are you gonna grind off that retarded jimping on the handle too? Should have spring the extra $20 for the 52 with the improved handle and the new smooth coating...

>>28438773
Bluing it just for looks? Blue is very thin; it'll wear off the first day you take it out and use it.

I mean, I'm sure it'll look cool, but blue isn't a very good protectant for a hard use knife.

Remember, when buying a knife
1: quality
2: utility
3: ergonomics
4: offensive capabilities
If you have to knife fight, you fucked up somewhere

>>28438864
It's better than bare steel...you could also use acid(citrus, vinegar, mustard) to force a patina. Lots of variations on this method on youtube.

>>28438849
Well shit, I didn't know about that one.
I like the jimping on the top but the bottom is going
I do wish I had spent a little extra for the micarta handles scales.

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Get a Kukri, OP. Good enough for the Gurkhas, good enough for you.

>>28439044
Bah Micarta just adds weight and makes the handle fatter. I like the slimness and traction of the rubber. It's a shame you didn't know about the 52. It fixed every problem I had with the older generation of the design.

>>28439003
Better than bare steel or blue is the factory coating on the blade. Yes, an acid patina would be the best option if you didn't like the powder coat, but he said blue, and the only reason I can see anyone bluing a knife is for looks.

>>28439098
Luckily there cheap enough.

>>28420464
>>28421093
>>28421134
>>28421994
>>28422047
>>28428802

Anons with the right idea. Double edged daggers.

>>28439109
Like a patina, bluing is a form of rust that adds a protective layer to the metal beneath. Why do you think guns were all blued before there were stainless/nickel/more modern coatings?

>>28439172
Yes, and as I said, bluing is extremely thin. Whacking a branch will take your blue off, then you have no rust protection.

From Wikipedia:
>Friction, as from holster wear, will quickly remove cold bluing, and will also remove hot bluing, rust, or fume bluing over long periods of use. It is usually inadvisable to use cold bluing as a touch-up where friction is present. If cold-bluing is the only practical option, the area should be kept oiled to extend the life of the coating as much as possible.

Most of the commercial blues I know of are cold bluing, not hot bluing. I mean, he could hot blue it, but I doubt that's what he referred to when he said "blue."

Well in a shtf situation, my condor Hudson Bay knife would be my main blade. I drilled a hole in the handle for a lanyard, this thing is heavy duty and I've used and abused it for 5 years.

>>28439342
Ah ok, I get your point. Nothing will protect your high carbon steel forever though if you don't maintain it properly. I use RIG on guns and knives. Impregnate a rag with it and just wipe after use. https://www.birchwoodcasey.com/Cleaning-and-Maintenance/RIG/RIG%C2%AE-Universal-Gun-Grease.aspx

>>28422490
Name & Model of the middle knife anon?


>>28422140
F&S fighting knife is not a refined fighting knife? Come again? I'm assuming you know who developed it and thier credentials right?

>>28422213
^ This.

>>28420821
You can get an actual Buck 119 with the plastic /aluminum setup for 20 at Walmart. The nicer ones not so much

>>28440472
On the much more expensive side is the old Buck Frontiersman model which is full tang.

I don't own one, but I've held one and it's a much nicer knife (albeit over $100).

The 119 is good though, I do own one of those. Nice fishing/carving knife.

>>28421762
For a lot of folks the American made think is more about supporting domestic business. I'm not bothered by imports in general, just Chinese imports

>>28419981
A Mora.

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Anyone know good places to buy knives in Europe? Pref the UK? I only know of Hennie but they seem really rather expensive compared to US prices

>>28441713

http://www.knivesandtools.co.uk

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Thinking about trying this bad boy out. It's only $40 on Amazon and it doesn't look too much like a 12 year old drew it in his notebook. Any thoughts?

>>28442012
Great way to waste $40.

>>28442012
Probably made of shit steel. Does it say what it's made of?

>>28442012
The handle looks like poop, there's jimping where a fucking bayo mount blocks use, and the choil is massive for no reason. I'm going to guess it's mediocre.

>>28420219
>stabbing their enemies to death as quick as they can.
this man got it
https://youtu.be/QHSXZnxLZ0I

>>28441820
Why thank you, because of their weird site I always assumed it was purely kitchen knives

>>28441713
BIN THAT KNIFE

>>28443179

I feel like this would just cause more problems and accidents than provide usefulness

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>>28443179
I like the look of the Grad .22 more

>>28443597
You just can't operate that hard

>>28442012
dude that looks exactly like what a 12 year old draws in his notebook

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>>28438773
what other anon said about bluing
have you thought about any other home finishes
i've had some good results

>>28442012
>http://www.amazon.com/AR-15-Bayonet-HEAVY-Black-Sheath/dp/B00DPMZXEI
>SUPER Hight Quality!

I would avoid that.

You might want to look at the M7 and the OKC3.

>>28426408
>It's a design meant for martial artists, which makes sense when you consider that they are Cold Steel's primary target market.

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>>28422243
It's funny that only about one person itt knew what full tang meant but then you've got cold steel fag trying to seem supremely knowledgeable