Anyone seen American Sniper yet?
It's showing n only one theater in Hollywood, so I checked it out.
Fucking amazing, imo.
>manly tears also
Lieutenant, this is what happens when you let your Muhreens fraternize with the special operators! They gets to picking up habits; their groomin standards begin slippin and they start gettin lackadaisical in ability to follow orders. Your Muhreen has jeopradized the lives of this here platoon with his lax natures. WHERE THE FUCK'RE YEH HELMETS?!
I am going to see it, and take it for its value as an entertainment piece and a movie. As fiction.
Now, who knows, maybe Kyle's story is in fact true to life. But it seems there is alot to suggest there is some exaggeration, if not outright falsehoods.
But its a movie about a sniper. If its better than the putrid garbage that is Enemy At The Gates, Ill enjoy it.
Ok ok. Now I saw this AND read the book(prior) but what is all the fuss about Kyle being a liar?
I really mean this, I honestly do not know why you're saying he is lying. What is he lying about?
I just want to know more about the big 'controversy'.
Part of it is the whole Jesse Ventura thing. If nothing else, the fact that Ventura won his defamation suit is a big deal. Defamation, in the United States at least, is literally one of the most difficult civil cases you can ever pursue, let alone win. And Ventura won his against Kyle's Estate.
And many people have a sour taste in their mouth (understandbly so) about his baiting tactics he used that led to his high number of confirmed kills
google it yourself, faggot.
He lied about punching Ventura and about Ventura badmouthing SEALS. Court sided with him and made Kyle's widow pay him $1.8 million. He was talking shit to promote his book and got caught.
The tactics used by Kyle and his cohorts were much more insidious then that. A large number of the activities that Kyle and other SEAL teams engaged in later became a laundry list of things that any one serving in any capacity even remotely resembling sniping should not engage in under any circumstances.
for the uninitiated, page 79 of Kyle's shitty book
>Our ROEs when the war kicked off were pretty simple: If you see anyone from about sixteen to sixty-five and they’re male, shoot ‘em. Kill every male you see.
Well I like Clint Eastwood and I like Bradley Cooper, so I'll probably check it out. I mean most Clint's movies have been fucking great, after FOOF and LFIJ you're not going to check out a Clint war movie?
They had a propensity to consider anyone who was male and between the ages of fourteen and forty a combatant, regardless of situation. Someone would stick their head out and they would put a hole in them just for fitting that criteria. Bear in mind this wasn't in curfew zones, or people acting strange in places the aught not be, it was just random individuals that happened to fall in their line of sight.
On the Jew York post he described his favorite tactic thusly:
>sneak onto a roof at night
>at dawn, shoot the first person he saw
>when people came out with AK's to investigate he'd shoot all of them.
Of course when the reporter dutifully replaced "person" with "insurgent" but given the RoE described in his book, he was indiscriminately shooting non-combatants, and the investigators had AK's so they were "terrorists". Something like that.
Not something as simple as "lying" about Ventura.
In his book, he recounts punching a rude dude in a bar, then fleeing. This person is basically supposed to be Ventura, and the reason given for punching is allegedly because this faux-Ventura came to this fallen soldier send-off in the bar and started mouthing off the military and the unfortunate chap who died.
This accusation threw Ventura's reputation deep into the gutter. Defaming someone like that is not a trivial deal.
The claim isn't in his book, it was made during an interview on fauxnews to pimp his book.
When Ventura denied the story and threatened to sue, Kyle doubled down.
When Ventura sued then said he will withdraw the lawsuit if Kyle admitted he lied and apologized publicly, he doubled down again.
Chris Kyle is pond scum.
Ventura may have won the lawsuit. Kyle's wife won the war. In Ventura's case, pursuing the defamation suit was far more damaging than Kyle's statements ever could have dreamt of being.
Reputable enough to be elected governor. Plus he speaks truth to power, unlike the government shill Chris Kyle who was so offended by Ventura's criticism of the Iraq War he had to concoct an entire story to slander the man.
Yep, he was stationed in the Philippines and did some psych war stuff with tying up balloons that would drift into vietnam. His older brother was on the teams and got him set up with an easy deployment I believe.
>portray yourself as serving in vietnam and being a vet
>spend it in phillipines rigging balloons
>talk about agent orange exposure, hunting men, and the war like you participated in it
Ventura changed the defendant to Kyle's estate, faggot. Get your facts straight.
He has openly stated he did not see combat. He's still a vet.
Whatever ambiguous statements Ventura has made pales in comparison to the multiple outright lies and fabrications made by Chris Kyle.
>What is an executor/executrix of an estate?
>Who would have been the primary beneficiary of that estate?
Yeah, he sued a widow. Quit sucking his cock. He's just as much of a fraud and just as big of a shithead as Kyle was.
>too stupid to understand the difference between a person's estate and a person's widow
When the reliably pro-military National Review turns on a so-called "war hero" you know that guy is a shitbird.
I guarantee you that I have a better understanding of wills and estates and property interests than you do. But please, explain the difference to me. When you're done, maybe you can talk about how even if Ventura was technically right, he still looks like the shithead that he is.
Why every MAHREEN!! is truly upset about it.
Shitty thing is Jesse Ventura was one of the original Frogmen/ UDTs from Vietnam. He was a bad ass wrestler and from what my friends in Minnesota say a good Governor. But Ventura went off the deep in. Just shitty when two Badass Americans have that much bad blood between them.
I'm gonna go see it opening day, Say what you will about ROE or Killcounts or whatever, when he got out he tried to help thoses who got through it worse than he did and died in a way that no man should.
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>literally two different things
It is amusing how you claim Ventura is a shithead for doing what is entirely normal and expected. Chris Kyle getting his just desserts doesn't excuse his widow's profiting from his lies.
>Tara Kyle would have been a named defendant in her capacity as executrix of the estate of Chris Kyle, and not realizing that naming somebody's widow as a defendant in a civil suit is literally the definition "suing a widow."
>Having no idea how this shit works, and just parroting what Jesse Ventura said in his half-assed "please stop thinking bad things about me" post-trial video
>Sucking Ventura's cock this hard in a misguided attempt to distract from the fact that even though he did the correct and proper thing under the rules of civil procedure upon Chris Kyle's death, he still came off looking like a shithead, and failing to realize that he pissed his reputation down the drain years ago, which is why he lives in a van in Baja and occasionally Skypes in on the Alex Jones show because nobody reputable was giving him a TV deal anyway.
>Making shit up.
>Not realizing that I haven't said a single word in support of Chris Kyle, who was proven by a preponderance of evidence to have lied about a bar fight
Kek. Please keep going. I want to hear more. And remember: filing a suit in an improper venue and having that suit accordingly dismissed is actually evidence of a conspiracy on the part of the government. Indeed, the CIA has sleeper agents for just such a purpose inside the various state and federal courts, as well in state and local governments nationwide. Just ask Jesse Ventura. He speaks truth to power.
>making shit up
>conflating estate and widow in order to drum up sympathy for a proven liar and his lie-begotten book profits
It is bewildering how anyone can feel bad for that dumb cunt who is still calling her husband "as honest as the day is long".
>Not realizing that the things about the improper venue and CIA sleeper agents are paraphrases of direct quotes from Jesse Ventura regarding his litigation failures
>Not understanding what "preponderance of the evidence" means, and having zero understanding of trial practice and what's needed to convince a civil jury
>Being ignorant of why the suit was filed where it was
>Being completely blind to the PR shitstorm that Ventura stuck his dick into
Keep on using those big words.