Don't mind me, just doing my first CQ and looking good doing it
AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!!!111!!!!
F-35C looking good as allways.
Hopefully, a very, very loooooong time.
>Lockheed F-104 Starfighter
>the German Air Force lost about 30% of aircraft in accidents over its operating career, and Canada lost 46% of its F-104s (110 of 235)
There are better ones on this forum:
712 built, and I'm seeing about 60-70 lost by bureau number. Scan through the years here to check. Site looks goofy but the data is good - confirmed.
So, no. At worst it would be less than 10% over 30 years of carrier ops.
Um... prototype flying at an airshow without most of it's proposed systems or engines or final airframe VS almost completed weapons system performing carrier (which the Chinese don't have) landings? Yup, the Chicoms sure showed the US.
kek. sure, if you count a floating rust bucket the Russians couldn't even be fucked to fix up which currently can't even perform flight ops. Yeah, the chinese have a carrier all right.
Sure, then I'll just go ahead and say the US has 23 carriers instead of the 20 operational Nimitz, Ford, America and Wasp class decks it has plus the two fords and an America building. That's cool with you, right?
Many Air Force Aircraft have tail looks but those are for emergency arrested landings at land based airstrips. Like if your brakes stopped working
Those aircraft could never land on the carrier however. Their landing gear would snap off
Can it really be called a carrier when it's barely bigger than the US wasp/America class amphibious assault ships? I mean, shit, you say carrier, I think Big E, Nimitz, can't cross the canal, etc. The Liaoning just looks like a slightly fat helicopter deck.
But that's just the point. Obviously China has something they designate an aircraft carrier, and that is indeed what it does. But they've had it for 16 years now, and still seemingly haven't cracked the code. They're being trained in carrier ops by the Brazillians, and in very limited testing so far have managed to kill two of their pilots and lost two of their planes. To date, they've managed a handful of touch-and-gos with less than a handful of actual traps.
So I ask again: does China have a carrier? Is it still a carrier if they can't get it to do carrier ops?
Fucking learn to google, you lazy shit
Oh well, battle carriers are still allowed, no fucks given.
Their landing gear MIGHT snap off, but would probably be damaged.
They could not take off using catapults. They certainly could not operate regularly off carriers, only maybe once in an extreme emergency.
It does look really nice and sleek and it's probably got the most advanced avionics and systems for the years to come.
But the flight characteristics are on the 3rd gen fighters level and in some aspects even worse from what I've gathered, which is really disappointing seeing how it will replace basically all us fighters and fill the roles where it can't compete.
It's also can only hold 4 missiles in it's internal bay and has half the range of the new slav shit.
No one cares about chink airplanes.
Pak-fa will have around 1.4 thrust to wight ratio with the second stage engines, which are in development right now. 39,600lbf each.
This article doesn't disprove that it can only do m.1.6, can't supercruise and can't turn against su-35s fitted with 3d vector thrust nozzles.
Well, at least it's not worse than an f-18.
Also, I've read somewhere it was limited to 4.5g and couldn't carry close range missiles in it's internal store. Is that true?
The claim was it had 3rd gen flight characteristics. Asinine goalpost moving.
Then, the claim was "can't turn", now its "cant turn against 4++"
More asinine goalpost moving.
>I've read somewhere it was
Im sure it was during testing, its 9.0 like everything else.
>carry close range missiles in it's internal store
Im done. Read the fucking wiki article. Just do that tiny, no effort thing before ever posting about the F-35 again.
No, this will replace air sep fighters.
Air force has a similar program.
Dont be stupid.
>anywhere that skewed
Look at early F-16s vs F-14/15's.
Ukrainians. Not Russians, if True Ukrainians heard you they'll be very angry.
Ukrainains have developed better things than Russian, they are currently selling Oplots to Thailand, they are currently trying to sell the Ukrainia Slava Class Cruiser to Russia, they sold the ex-Varyag carrier to China, they sold the Su-33 prototype to China, they let China hire Ukrainian Rocket Scientists for Chinese ICBM instead of them going to Russia, during the Novoroosiya conflict, Ukraine sold Satan ICBM blueprints to China.
>they sold the ex-Varyag carrier to China, they sold the Su-33 prototype to China, they let China hire Ukrainian Rocket Scientists for Chinese ICBM instead of them going to Russia, during the Novoroosiya conflict, Ukraine sold Satan ICBM blueprints to China.
So what you are telling me is that the Ukrainians are even worse than the jews? I'm kind of glad Russia is annexing Ukraine now.
T-50 is the best planefu that will outperform every 5gen fighter in terms of flight characteristics, amerifats are just jealous because their only competent fighter got canceled.
>everyone is cancelling/reducing the orders
Odd, we keep adding partners every year.
>Lockheed Martin is having to invest several hundred million dollars to fix the plane!
Oh no! A plane has issues during testing! Wanna know how I know you are from a lesser nation?
>alot for MIC company fixing an airframe
It's already shown to be capable of sailing uner its own power. It only needs towing when exiting ports, because thats how big ships leave ports you fucking retard.
>doesn't cite any sources
Yeah just another piece of shit rumour mongering journalism like every pro gun control article
but anon, that journalist is hired by the same company as the "good ones". Why should we believe any of BIs pro china shilling? A negligent company who would hire a clearly biased anti Chinese man, would hire the same for pro chinese!
>I believe pro china bullshit from the same company that puts out anti Chinese stuff that I dont believe!
The double think is real.
All us fighters have aresting hooks. There are emergency aresting cables at the end of all our runways incase their brakes fail.
the funny thing is those two planes parked on the carrier cost as much as the carrier
Definitely ditching over water. Attempting an emergency landing would at the very least disrupt flight operations, and potentially damage the deck/superstructure if something went completely fucking wrong--which is very possible since air force pilots aren't trained for carrier landings.
F-15 has a tailhook too.
They're for emergencies and often can only be lowered once before having to be manualy fixed and shit by the ground crew. Naval tailhooks can be raised and lowered many times.
They dont even use similar tech.
Yak used turbojets, i.e. mini jet engines.
F-35 uses a fucking lift fan, i.e. mini helicopter roter driven via a driveshaft from its ONE, FUCKING, ENGINE